Anas09:

@ the bolded. What that means is that, when Jesus appears, a lot of you will be depending on your priests or pastors to answer for you.


God is not stupid for making it possible for the Bible to be written in a common language and in diverse translations. The Catholic church wanted the Bible locked and kept away in a dead Latin language which only a few priests would understand and tell us what they want us to hear. but the Lord has made it available to all, none of us has any excuse for not knowing what the Bible says about anything.


Buy a Bible, read it everyday. Go out preach it, win souls and advance God's Kingdom.


Jesus is coming soon and the souls you won will be the rewards you get there. Whatever you get here, including your flesh remains here. If Christ returns while your spirit man is still dead, na you sabi o. We are here shouting it everyday. Jesus no go ask you which church you dey attend o.

Ignorance on display.Without the catholic church they will be no bible in the first place.The bible you have today is a product of the catholic church so STFU

ikorodureporta:



u did not get my point.. I said those chapters & verses are not read out during mass & somebody with a bible cannot use it for anything. Bsides, the price of d bulletin which contains those verses/chapters passages isnt encouraging for most people...

ARE YOU DULL OR WHAT? YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT YOU CAN EASILY GET THE DAILY MASS READINGS FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS ON YOUR PHONE?

Anas09:

I don't know for how long you'd keep telling yourself this lie that without the Catholic Church the world won't have Christianity.

There was no Catholic Church until the 4the Century AD, yet there was Christianity fully power. Lions were being fed with Christians yet the Church was increasing.

Maybe you meant to say 'without the Catholic Church, Christianity would have been preached in all the earth by now'.

The Catholic Church hindered and is still hindering the move of the Church till tomorrow. Good a thing, no one can cage the Holy Spirit.

THIS IS A HISTORICAL SUMMERSAULT!! A LIE OF TEH HIGHEST ORDER!! CATHOLIC CHRISTIANITY HAS ALWAYS EXISTED RIGHT FROM THE FIRST CENTURY.THE WORD CATHOLIC WAS FIRST USED TO DESCRIBE THE CHURCH BY ST IGNATIUS OF ANTIOCH WHO DIED IN THE SECOND CENTURY.YES CATHOLICA WERE TEH ONES BEEN FED TO THE LIONS AND YET THEY KEPT INCREASING

I SAW THE OP PEEPING.HE SHOULD TELL US THE PARISH.I AM SURE HE IS LYING.TELL US THE PARISH SO WE CAN VERIFY THIS INFORMATION.YOU CAN HARDLY SEE ANY CATHOLIC P[ARISH SELLING THE BULLETIN ABOVE N100

Ihateyoumod:


Where did the pope make tht decree....okay as I dey use my fone for church for my readings n hymn.....make pope come arrest me.....pls u dnt have a point. Pple have given u how u will get d readings, what is ur problem.

Ur thread was bout readings and I have told u to get d application, if u have d application, u know d readings, even if dey ban fone in church, u can know d readings from ur app, get d readings from der on sat n take ur Bible to church...simple

U just want to bash and argue, now u c u 've no point

WHAT STUPID DECREE IS THAT DUSE EVEN TALKING ABOUT.I AM NOT SURE THAT GUY IS MENTALLY ALRIGHT

PaChukwudi44:


WHAT STUPID DECREE IS THAT DUSE EVEN TALKING ABOUT.I AM NOT SURE THAT GUY IS MENTALLY ALRIGHT

Dnt mind d guy he has no point, he is not a catholic

PaChukwudi44:


Ignorance on display.Without the catholic church they will be no bible in the first place.The bible you have today is a product of the catholic church so STFU

Lies again. The first apostles were not roman catholics.

God is bigger than any church denomination, without jesus christ there will be no Christianity, with him there is Christianity and a bible.

The focus must always be on jesus christ.

blackpander, you made a "blasphemous" statement, when you said without the Catholic church there will be no christianity.

It is like Apostle Paul declaring that without him, the "gospel" will not be preach. God will achieve His aim with or without anyone.

spartan117:

Lies again. The first apostles were not roman catholics.

God is bigger than any church denomination, without jesus christ there will be no Christianity, with him there is Christianity and a bible.

The focus must always be on jesus christ.

The apostles started the catholic church.That is a historical fact.The catholic church existed before the bible.It was the catholic church that finally compiled the bible in the fourth and fifth centuries

bloodofthelamb:
blackpander, you made a "blasphemous" statement, when you said without the Catholic church there will be no christianity.

It is like Apostle Paul declaring that without him, the "gospel" will not be preach. God will achieve His aim with or without anyone.

of course he is right.Without the catholic church they will be no Christianity today

ikrodureporta what is the name of your parish?i can see you viewing

blackpanda:


Why arevu swallowing panadol for someone else headache. You are not a catholic so what is your business pls. Get a life already! We can sell bulletin at 2billion if we like. Why e de pepper u

u'v shown how truth-hating u'r......see yr lyfe

Anas09:
And you had to bring the matter here? Is this a Catholic Parish?

so? What ar we supposed to discuss on NL?

PaChukwudi44:


of course he is right.Without the catholic church they will be no Christianity today

Tell me how and why? Was the Catholic church crucified for our sins? Did the Pope shed his blood for the world?

Not even the early apostles could've claimed that without them there will be no christianity. Christianity was even corrupted by the catholic church by introducing what the early apostles of Jesus never practiced.

PaChukwudi44:
I am struggling t understand the essense and title of this post!!! How exactly is the catholic church discouraging people from reading the bible with the write up you just made? Even if the price oif bulletin in your parish is N200 how exactly does that amount to the catholic church discouraging people from reading the bible?

How many catholic parishes here in Nigeria sell bulletins above N50? have you made that research before before coming with this nauseating headline? In my own parish St Anthony of Padua parish surulere the bulletin is FREE!!! Yes you heard me FREE!!!.I am yet to see any catholic parish selling bulletins above N100.

btw what is N200 Compared to tithes,seed sowings,first fruits and other Pentecostal scams!!!!.You cannot spend N200 to buy bulletin but you can donate your entire earnings to a Pentecostal scam artist in the name of first fruit.I wish you goodluck.

BTW what is the name of your parish? we have to even verify this information before proceeding further

We may have to invite oga seun or lalasticlala to customize d topic format to accept a longer text as ''how the catholic churches IN MY AREA discourages people from taking bible to church'' that wl resolve yr argument, right


Its a good thing that its free in yr parish. The essence of this post is to address the issue. Considering the social class of people living in ikorodu, where majority of d parishioners are below average economically, now the bulletin - (bumper weekly publication), is sold @ N200. Tell me how many peop wl buy it. What i'm more concerned of is that during readings, they dnt call the bible chapters & verses...whats d essence of taking yr Bible along

ikorodureporta:
AN OPEN LETTER TO THE ARCHBISHOP & ALL CLERGIES CONCERNED...


The Catholic churches, these days don't care about members coming to church with their bibles.


From my observation, whenever they take their day's readings, they don't include the bible verses & chapters, so you having a bible is also useless.


In my area, the bulletin used to be N50/day, but now they've merged it to produce weekly bulletin @ N200/week. For this reason, most people don't buy bulletin anymore.


The last time i attended a night vigil here, the place was poorly lighted such that i couldnt view the bible content.


For the sake of those who just attend Sunday mass, they shld encourage people to join societies that are into Bible Studies. The prices of bulletin should be moderate, & Bible Chapters & Verses shld be read out for those who have their bibles or cannot afford the bulletin.


...From A Concerned Member


lalasticlala

Probably your parish does that however withstanding it is noted

PaChukwudi44:


ARE YOU DULL OR WHAT? YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT YOU CAN EASILY GET THE DAILY MASS READINGS FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS ON YOUR PHONE?

Ihateyoumod:


Where did the pope make tht decree....okay as I dey use my fone for church for my readings n hymn.....make pope come arrest me.....pls u dnt have a point. Pple have given u how u will get d readings, what is ur problem.

Ur thread was bout readings and I have told u to get d application, if u have d application, u know d readings, even if dey ban fone in church, u can know d readings from ur app, get d readings from der on sat n take ur Bible to church...simple

U just want to bash and argue, now u c u 've no point

all of una na jst to com fight wetin be bashing here again? Did i tell u that i dnt hav the necessary info concernin d church? My concern is that majority of d people are not being carried along. So if a stranger walks in with his/her bible, he/she remains 'lost' till the end of the mass....

blackpanda:


That's quite untrue. All bible passages are boldly written in d bulletin. And d bulletin isn't compulsory. Like I told u, catholic church has a calendar. All d bible passages for every day are already spelt out. Whether or not they even write it in d bulletin, we Catholics already know. And where the priest wishes to refer to any other bible passage he will say so. Ur criticism is unfortunately born of ignorance.

That is not totally correct many parishes don't cite bible verses

ikorodureporta:



u seem to hav issues with understanding. I neva said thoz things are not in d bulletin. Lemme rephrase again..... When they take 1st, 2nd & Gospel reading, they dnt call the Bible chapter & verse eg they jst say ...first reading from the book of Romans. Now, if a have a bible, how wld tou flip to the portion?


Now, the bulletin that contains all the info is N200 & most people dnt bother to buy it anymore. As a result of this, people dnt even open the bible. If you doubt it, carry out a research yourself to see how fast people can locate bible portion...

To a large extend you are right

blackpanda:


Either your skull is extremely thick or u just love propagating lies and falsehood. Like I said before, we catholics already know all our readings. They don't need to announce that in church. Why is this so hard for u to assimilate. You are not a catholic so I don't see why u are even here nagging. Nobody begged u to come ehn. And no, bulletin is not N200. Go away and stick to ur Pentecostal or worefa

For op to describe what goes in the Catholic Church shows she or he is more of Catholics than you. Most of the things he said are true

PaChukwudi44:
I SAW THE OP PEEPING.HE SHOULD TELL US THE PARISH.I AM SURE HE IS LYING.TELL US THE PARISH SO WE CAN VERIFY THIS INFORMATION.YOU CAN HARDLY SEE ANY CATHOLIC P[ARISH SELLING THE BULLETIN ABOVE N100

Go & ask yr cathechist, he shld be conversant with that.... Jst ask him if any parish in ikorodu selsl their WEEKLY bulletin @ N200

PaChukwudi44:


WHAT STUPID DECREE IS THAT DUSE EVEN TALKING ABOUT.I AM NOT SURE THAT GUY IS MENTALLY ALRIGHT

i'l giv you a pic of the publication in one of the bulletins. Calm down. I'm here to make changes in d system...not 'bout e-punching..

ikorodureporta:


so? What ar we supposed to discuss on NL?

But Nairaland can not effect the change you desire here.

PaChukwudi44:


THIS IS A HISTORICAL SUMMERSAULT!! A LIE OF TEH HIGHEST ORDER!! CATHOLIC CHRISTIANITY HAS ALWAYS EXISTED RIGHT FROM THE FIRST CENTURY.THE WORD CATHOLIC WAS FIRST USED TO DESCRIBE THE CHURCH BY ST IGNATIUS OF ANTIOCH WHO DIED IN THE SECOND CENTURY.YES CATHOLICA WERE TEH ONES BEEN FED TO THE LIONS AND YET THEY KEPT INCREASING

No matter how much you tried to forced Catholicism on Ignatius and the Church fathers, it won't fit. You know why? Christianity in the time of Ignatius and his contemporary didn't have a name. Churches were known by locations in the believer's homes. There was no Catholicism until or a Principal Christianity by name until Emperor Constantine and that was in the 4th Century.

PaChukwudi44:


Ignorance on display.Without the catholic church they will be no bible in the first place.The bible you have today is a product of the catholic church so STFU

The ignorant one here is you who doesn't know the difference between writing a book and compiling or publishing it.

Where the Prophets Catholics? were the Apostles Catholics?

Learn history okay?

ikorodureporta:




all of una na jst to com fight wetin be bashing here again? Did i tell u that i dnt hav the necessary info concernin d church? My concern is that majority of d people are not being carried along. So if a stranger walks in with his/her bible, he/she remains 'lost' till the end of the mass....

Firstly, if u or a stranger cannot read at least the stranger can hear abi....so its ders no were to read, y not listen to d reading. Most lectors put life into d reading. After d hearing the reading, if u wanna do reading for urself, u can always check d readings from someone's bulletin close by, more over of u come early to church, u can always spy the reading from someone with a bulletin close to u.........

Guy bottom line u no get talk abeg

MuttleyLaff:
²¹Not everyone who says to Me,
‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
²²Many will say to Me on that day,
‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’
²³Then I will tell them plainly,
‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness.’
- Matthew 7:21-23

Our comments should be unambiguous about "preach, win souls, rewards" etcetera
as some scriptures like Matthew 7:21-23 above and the one about "The Sheep and the Goats parable"
have shown some preached but instead of winning rewards, got just desserts.

It is obvious there are more one way to skin a cat
and so therefore several ways for being welcomed into the kingdom of heaven
and not just the usual way

Preaching the gospel doesn't welcome us or bars us from entering into the Kingdom of God, but soul winning rewards us.

blackpanda:


You know nothing about holy spirit. And no, we don't do service we do mass. There arevthings u can never understand, things thatvarevway beyond your comprehension level. So just stay in your own church and we will stay in ours. Its freedom of religion anyways

Yeah i know that you celebrate Mass which happens to be a constellation. And that will be idol worship.

pls point me to where the Apostles celebrated the constellations?

ikorodureporta:



We may have to invite oga seun or lalasticlala to customize d topic format to accept a longer text as ''how the catholic churches IN MY AREA discourages people from taking bible to church'' that wl resolve yr argument, right


Its a good thing that its free in yr parish. The essence of this post is to address the issue. Considering the social class of people living in ikorodu, where majority of d parishioners are below average economically, now the bulletin - (bumper weekly publication), is sold @ N200. Tell me how many peop wl buy it. What i'm more concerned of is that during readings, they dnt call the bible chapters & verses...whats d essence of taking yr Bible along

so the parish does not have any name? are you for real?

Anas09:

The ignorant one here is you who doesn't know the difference between writing a book and compiling or publishing it.

Where the Prophets Catholics? were the Apostles Catholics?

Learn history okay?

did the bible exist before it was compiled? You are the confused one and not me.The bible did not exist until it was compiled by the catholic church and yes the apostles were catholics

Anas09:

No matter how much you tried to forced Catholicism on Ignatius and the Church fathers, it won't fit. You know why? Christianity in the time of Ignatius and his contemporary didn't have a name. Churches were known by locations in the believer's homes. There was no Catholicism until or a Principal Christianity by name until Emperor Constantine and that was in the 4th Century.

you are the ignorant one .St Ignatius was the very first person to use the term "catholic" to describe the church.He was a scion of the authentic church left by the apostles.Continue to deceive yourself.

Wherever the bishop appear, there let the multitude be; even as wherever Christ Jesus is, there is the Catholic Church.

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/ignatius-smyrnaeans-hoole.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignatius_of_Antioch

Anas09:

Preaching the gospel doesn't welcome us or bars us from entering into the Kingdom of God, but soul winning rewards us.

since you are so focused on soul winning how many souls have you won so far for christ