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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by frer8: 5:22pm On May 30, 2018
I'd rather live in Nanyuki, Diani Thika and Watamu than in Lagos!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MPSA(m): 5:25pm On May 30, 2018
naijalander:
Funny. sad


I don't have any building knowledge, but I believe I can compete with that contractor when it comes to speed grin According to that video, I can do much better when it comes to speed grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 5:49pm On May 30, 2018
South Lokichar, Turkana, Kenya

In the meantime Oil production in Kenya is moving on - with already an estimated 4B barrels - this month - we will start an early export scheme to test the oil market - with 2,000 barrels being transported on the road and exported.

The design for oil pipeline has been awarded and construction should on oil pipeline will start before production in 2021. This part of LAPSET - with LAMU port already on construction.

Unlike Nigeria that took forever to grant local communities around oil more oil revenues - Kenya has agreed with Turkana county on sharing formulae - they keep 30% of the revene!!


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-30/kenya-to-start-oil-field-development-by-end-2019-ministry-says

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MPSA(m): 6:00pm On May 30, 2018
rvp20182:
As your Lebanase build one tower per decade, One Chinese company (AVIC Intl) is building six towers at go to act as their Africa HQ -
Westland - is competing with Upperhill for new CBD of Nairobi - the New SubSaharan Sandtons






Kenya is moving forward, I can see the image of this beautiful Sandton out of Nairobi, Well done Kenya grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCNhAS3eFmg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yta9RpFXJDk

I don't doubt the potential of Kenya, Nairobi is clean grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:09pm On May 30, 2018
Jay254:


When China overtook Japan as the biggest economy in Asia, there is so much change you can see in china.

When America overtook Europe as the world superpower there was so much you could see and feel.

When S.Korea, Singapore,Taiwan moved from third world to developed Nations there was so much change you could see.


When Nigeria overtook S.Africa as the biggest economy only the figures changed... Poor Nigeria

You seem very dumb with this kind of comment.

How much did Nigeria overcome South Africa with economically? China overcame Japan with such a very wide margin in terms of GDP.

Ethiopia has overtake Kenya as the economic power of East Africa, can you tell us the major changes observed in Ethiopia?

Sometimes, one wonders if you Kenyans reason with your butts.

FYI, as a Nigerian, It is obvious that there have been differences in Nigeria now compared to 10 or 20 years ago.

Among the many

1. Nigeria obviously now has the largest ongoing projects in Africa.
2. Nigeria has the largest middleclass population in Africa right now.
3. Nigeria has the most largest and most influential entertainment industry in Africa.
4. Nigeria has more of the largest and most influential company startups in Africa in the last 1-2 decades.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:19pm On May 30, 2018
Jay254:


Poor guy.. What do you say about the 100m people in Nigeria who do not even have atoilet.

Only around 40 million practice open defecation in Nigeria, so stop lying.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.STA.ODFC.ZS?end=2015&start=2015&view=bar
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:20pm On May 30, 2018
None of this is true except maybe 3 - even within Sub-Saharan Africa. The projects in Nigeria are either stalled or cancelled or still at planning stage. Nigeria doesn't have largest middle class - South Africa does. Entertainment (nollywood) is really chi.cken shiet as far as economy goes. And last one is just hilarious...start ups?.
Nowenuse:

1. Nigeria obviously now has the largest ongoing projects in Africa.
2. Nigeria has the largest middleclass population in Africa right now.
3. Nigeria has the most largest and most influential entertainment industry in Africa.
4. Nigeria has more of the largest and most influential company startups in Africa in the last 1-2 decades.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:29pm On May 30, 2018
GERALD710:

1.Nigerians do not make a forum popular.Kenyatalk has plenty of East Africans contributing.Nigerians cannot participate easily on Kenyatalk simply because half the conversations are in Swahili,which you Nigerians do not understand.Tanzanians are the second largest group on Kenyatalk followed by Congolese,Ugandans and Rwandans.
We all have one thing in common.Even if the posters post in either English or Swahili,we can all understand!!!
Nigerians ARE obsessed with Kenyans.This thread was not started by a Kenyan.
The entertainment section of Nairaland mentions Kenyan stories more than any other nation except Nigeria,itself.
How is that not obsession

You can never find Nigerians on a kenyan forum even if you guys speak pidgin English over there, except perhaps Nigerians living in Kenya.

Hardly do you ever find any Nigerian interested in Kenyan affairs. You guys are not worth the attention to us.
Do you know how weird my friends and family take me to be just because I tune into East african TV stations occasionally?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:39pm On May 30, 2018
kikuyu1:


Makoko still stands off the 3rd mainland bridge!? The governor has tried to raze the slum but it keeps getting rebuilt since there's no alternative unlike Kibera where the government builds houses.

I never said that the entire Makoko has been destroyed. I only said a good part of it has.

Are you talking of Kibera where the slum dwellers rent out the government houses and return to the slums?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:44pm On May 30, 2018
NairobiWalker:


Slum is not a concept. A slum is a slum - something tangible, something you can see with your eyes...............you can choose to call it some other name but if it's a slum it's a slum. Stop living in denial. Please explain to me how this place in Onitsha is not a slum?

Nowhere in Onitsha is a slum. Show us the entire aerial view of the place you call a slum.

This picture just shows an unsanitized dump area.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 6:47pm On May 30, 2018
NairobiWalker:


Nairobi is well planned - you can clearly see the boundary between a slum and normal housing because slums are mostly built illegally on government land. However in countries like Nigeria it seems people can buy land and build slums on it since you find pocket of slums everywhere and ever the 'normal housing' are just slums though they are not referred to as such because to them 'the concept of a slum' is non-existence. grin grin grin
Look at this neighborhood in Lagos for example, they wouldn't call it a slum but practically it's a slum. grin grin grin


You don't just pick one or 2 illegal structures out in a place and call it a slum. That's extreme dumbness.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 6:52pm On May 30, 2018
Nowenuse:


Nowhere in Onitsha is a slum. Show us the entire aerial view of the place you call a slum.

This picture just shows an unsanitized dump area.
leave the people, abeg. So many false assertions here.

Even the pics u quoted is agbogbloshie in Ghana

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:54pm On May 30, 2018
Nowenuse:


You seem very dumb with this kind of comment.

How much did Nigeria overcome South Africa with economically? China overcame Japan with such a very wide margin in terms of GDP.

Ethiopia has overtake Kenya as the economic power of East Africa, can you tell us the major changes observed in Ethiopia?

Sometimes, one wonders if you Kenyans reason with your butts.

FYI, as a Nigerian, It is obvious that there have been differences in Nigeria now compared to 10 or 20 years ago.

Among the many

1. Nigeria obviously now has the largest ongoing projects in Africa.
2. Nigeria has the largest middleclass population in Africa right now.
3. Nigeria has the most largest and most influential entertainment industry in Africa.
4. Nigeria has more of the largest and most influential company startups in Africa in the last 1-2 decades.



You're wrong,Kenya is the economic power of eastern and central Africa with a GDP of 88 Billion USD then Ethiopia follows closely with 85Billion USD.This is according to 2018 latest IMF stats..Get your facts right.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 6:56pm On May 30, 2018
Nowenuse:


Nowhere in Onitsha is a slum. Show us the entire aerial view of the place you call a slum.

This picture just shows an unsanitized dump area.

So according to you this is a decent estate? You're just outright dumb.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 6:57pm On May 30, 2018
Nowenuse:

You don't just pick one or 2 illegal structures out in a place and call it a slum. That's extreme dumbness.

See? Always in denial. A special case you are indeed.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:01pm On May 30, 2018
Nowenuse:


You seem very dumb with this kind of comment.

How much did Nigeria overcome South Africa with economically? China overcame Japan with such a very wide margin in terms of GDP.

Ethiopia has overtake Kenya as the economic power of East Africa, can you tell us the major changes observed in Ethiopia?

Sometimes, one wonders if you Kenyans reason with your butts.

FYI, as a Nigerian, It is obvious that there have been differences in Nigeria now compared to 10 or 20 years ago.

Among the many

1. Nigeria obviously now has the largest ongoing projects in Africa.
2. Nigeria has the largest middleclass population in Africa right now.
3. Nigeria has the most largest and most influential entertainment industry in Africa.
4. Nigeria has more of the largest and most influential company startups in Africa in the last 1-2 decades.

Kenya has reovertaken Ethiopia as East Africa's largest economy. You're so unlearnt yet want to have an opinion on everything.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:03pm On May 30, 2018
Nowenuse:


Only around 40 million practice open defecation in Nigeria, so stop lying.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.STA.ODFC.ZS?end=2015&start=2015&view=bar

A whole 40M? Wow! That's like the whole of Kenya.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 7:04pm On May 30, 2018
254tobby:




You're wrong,Kenya is the economic power of eastern and central Africa with a GDP of 88 Billion USD then Ethiopia follows closely with 85Billion USD.This is according to 2018 latest IMF stats..Get your facts right.
But so many dispute this 88 Billion dollars and call it fake, even Kenyans themselves, and according to rvp2018, the IMF is not reliable source for GDP. So what do we believe now?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 7:10pm On May 30, 2018
NairobiWalker:


So according to you this is a decent estate? You're just outright dumb.
oga, this is not Nigeria..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:14pm On May 30, 2018
IMF & WB - don't produce national accounts (GDP) - they just take whatever is thrown out there by National Statistics- and convert it into dollars or PPP (using international price comparisons) - they also do projection based on those figures.
Daejoyoung:

But so many dispute this 88 Billion dollars and call it fake, even Kenyans themselves, and according to rvp2018, the IMF is not reliable source for GDP. So what do we believe now?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 7:25pm On May 30, 2018
rvp20182:
None of this is true except maybe 3 - even within Sub-Saharan Africa. The projects in Nigeria are either stalled or cancelled or still at planning stage. Nigeria doesn't have largest middle class - South Africa does. Entertainment (nollywood) is really chi.cken shiet as far as economy goes. And last one is just hilarious...start ups?.

Don't forget Nigeria's music industry, which is also entertainment.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 7:26pm On May 30, 2018
NairobiWalker:


A whole 40M? Wow! That's like the whole of Kenya.

And those numbers are mostly in rural areas...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:26pm On May 30, 2018
Daejoyoung:

But so many dispute this 88 Billion dollars and call it fake, even Kenyans themselves, and according to rvp2018, the IMF is not reliable source for GDP. So what do we believe now?
Can you bring us any source disputing it?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:27pm On May 30, 2018
theenchanter:
oga, this is not Nigeria..
Onitsha to be specific. 90% of Onitsha is a huge slum.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 7:30pm On May 30, 2018
rvp20182:
IMF & WB - don't produce national accounts (GDP) - they just take whatever is thrown out there by National Statistics- and convert it into dollars or PPP (using international price comparisons) - they also do projection based on those figures.
Yeah so why not tell that to Nairobi walker who quoted the IMF.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:33pm On May 30, 2018
rvp20182:
Yeah there is no master-plan; no zoning; no strict building code; no building plans get approved; you wake up and build whatever you want. In most of Kenya that is just not possible - that is only possible on illegal slums build in public land - and those are not increasing - but are reducing daily.

In Nairobi - the slums were illegally build near posh estate and occupied mostly domestic and such kind of lowly paid workers -- but I doubt as we speak if there is someone still building a slum in Nairobi now - it mostly a 80s/90s lapse of enforcement.





Okay. Let us get the differences here. Cos I see that Kenyans have been echoing a misconception about Nigerian cities for a long time now.


In Nigeria, there is a very very strong indigeneship context. Every city or urban area has natives.
The natives of a city are not usually relocated in the expansion of a city. And this is what usually give rise to the poor areas and older sections of Nigerian cities which you guys think is the major definition of the city.

In Warri city where I live for instance, the modern parts of the city mostly dominated by non natives are very different from the slumish like houses in which most of the poorer natives live.

Look at this first picture below. It is from the city I live.

Can you see the B part of the picture? See how crowded and rusty the houses look? It is dominated by the natives. Look at the A part, can you see the difference?

NairobiWalker, Jay254, mtis, TayserMahiri, kikuyu1 et al

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 7:33pm On May 30, 2018
Nowenuse:


Only around 40 million practice open defecation in Nigeria, so stop lying.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.STA.ODFC.ZS?end=2015&start=2015&view=bar

And that to you is better, poor boy.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 7:36pm On May 30, 2018
Nowenuse:


You can never find Nigerians on a kenyan forum even if you guys speak pidgin English over there, except perhaps Nigerians living in Kenya.

Hardly do you ever find any Nigerian interested in Kenyan affairs. You guys are not worth the attention to us.
Do you know how weird my friends and family take me to be just because I tune into East african TV stations occasionally?

Nigerians don't visit our forums they come to our country..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 7:39pm On May 30, 2018
NairobiWalker:

Onitsha to be specific. 90% of Onitsha is a huge slum.
that's agbogbloshie in Ghana, it's not Onitsha.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 7:39pm On May 30, 2018
Nowenuse:


You seem very dumb with this kind of comment.

How much did Nigeria overcome South Africa with economically? China overcame Japan with such a very wide margin in terms of GDP.

Ethiopia has overtake Kenya as the economic power of East Africa, can you tell us the major changes observed in Ethiopia?

Sometimes, one wonders if you Kenyans reason with your butts.

FYI, as a Nigerian, It is obvious that there have been differences in Nigeria now compared to 10 or 20 years ago.

Among the many

1. Nigeria obviously now has the largest ongoing projects in Africa.
2. Nigeria has the largest middleclass population in Africa right now.
3. Nigeria has the most largest and most influential entertainment industry in Africa.
4. Nigeria has more of the largest and most influential company startups in Africa in the last 1-2 decades.

Kenya is back to it's position in East Africa...

All that crap you've written over there only exist in your mind vist African countries and you will realise how major projects are done.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:39pm On May 30, 2018
Nowenuse:


Okay. Let us get the differences here. Cos I see that Kenyans have been echoing a misconception about Nigerian cities for a long time now.


In Nigeria, there is a very very strong indigeneship context. Every city or urban area has natives.
The natives of a city are not usually relocated in the expansion of a city. And this is what usually give rise to the poor areas and older sections of Nigerian cities which you guys think is the major definition of the city.

In Warri city where I live for instance, the modern parts of the city mostly dominated by non natives are very different from the slumish like houses in which most of the poorer natives live.

Look at this first picture below. It is from the city I live.

Can you see the B part of the picture? See how crowded and rusty the houses look? It is dominated by the natives. Look at the A part, can you see the difference?

NairobiWalker, Jay254, mtis, TayserMahiri, kikuyu1 et al

It doesn't matter how a slum is formed. We don't care if the devil came with it from hell in the middle of the night and dropped it in your city. What matters is it is a slum.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by frer8: 7:41pm On May 30, 2018
Don't you just love it? Kenya!

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