TheGoodJoe:


You are using your yardstick to make the final selection. The coaches have theirs. So you best Performers might not be a perfect fit for what the coaches what to use.

Do you mean only the coaches in Nigeria have a different yardstick?

What a country?

Joebie:
Now agents must be happy their players at least made the 35 man list that was never released. Will they ask for a refund?

Sir there is a problem, but you are making it bigger than it really is.

Let me not assume the above. I would like to know what you really think happened.

I want to know how manage Nwakali made the 35 man list at the detriment of players that performed better than him this season?

I don't know if that your question is the answer. Is it?

Martz101:


you are such a liar, you are so desperate to drive your point that you lie at any giving opportunity.

i said i never liked keshi idea of choosing Uzoenyi over Aluko but you twisted it after few minutes, very soon you will get to a point where people won't take yoh serious because of your manipulative attitude

why are you and Thegoodjoe feeding the troll? Ignore it ans it will crawl into the abyss of nothingness.

If you are looking for a tortuous argument so badly, kindly engage one of the Agyemangs on this thread, you will get farther with them

komekn:


Is selection based on the sole subjective personal led judgement of one individual

What happened to a selection criteria and objectivity based on quantifiable measurement ❓

I tire ooooooo.

forgiveness:


Do you mean only the coaches in Nigeria have a different yardstick?

What a country?

the Niangollan that was dropped from Belgium, was he not one of their best players for the season?

Icardi that was Series A's top scorer was equally dropped by Argentina and heaven did not fall.


Why the phuck are you stinking up this thread with stale arguments about your mediocre Kayode that has, truly, not even measured up to Uzoenyi's standard in the National team?

You are such a troll!

komekn:


How do you know better players with better club statistics could not have done better

This sentimental selection based on past youthful glories not present continous consistent performances in thier respective clubs can easily be used for favoritism.

The biggest word in football is OPPORTUNITY without it we will never know what a player can do.

That's why it is essential that the most deserving players get the OPPORTUNITY not the most connected.

GBAM!

safarigirl:
the Niangollan that was dropped from Belgium, was he not one of their best players for the season?

Icardi that was Series A's top scorer was equally dropped by Argentina and heaven did not fall.


Why the phuck are you stinking up this thread with stale arguments about your mediocre Kayode that has, truly, not even measured up to Uzoenyi's standard in the National team?

You are such a troll!

Tell us why those where dropped?

We all know it has nothing to with footballing reasoning.

Continue to support mediocre. You go meet am for front.

safarigirl:
the Niangollan that was dropped from Belgium, was he not one of their best players for the season?

Icardi that was Series A's top scorer was equally dropped by Argentina and heaven did not fall.


Why the phuck are you stinking up this thread with stale arguments about your mediocre Kayode that has, truly, not even measured up to Uzoenyi's standard in the National team?

You are such a troll!

Bhuuuhahaha! Bhuuuhahaha! Bhuuuhahaha!

No comment.

Icon4s:


I thought he has become your new mentor? And you have become his new attorney.

I have asked you once if you hacked into the very resourceful Mujtahida's account that we once knew.

I am asking again.

Nonsense.

Mujtahida:

hahahaha sir icon4s why do we read so superficially. i am not his attorney. supernerd has done what i have said should be done. if you cannot answer the young man shun his post but if you want to answer him then do with facts. i consider it low of you to join the bandwagon of those who see the position i have taken as a support of forgiveness. soon una go say forgiveness, me and komekn na same person.

i am not surprised though. there was a time somebody said he doesnt want obafemi martins because he plays in china. i said but ighalo and martins play in china naw(meaning to show the person thst the basis for his assertion is faulty). next thing i was called a martins supporter. you should go deeper than the superficialities that prevails here.


one person says that 35 man list containing nwakali's name is sign of corruption. another person says you are neoptistic thats why yousee nepotism everywhere. i say bro, counter his charge of nepotism not just accuse him of nepotism. counter his interpretation of the facts with your own facts. realpoacher did it,supernerd did it. but its now easy to say i am forgiveness' attorney because he is the designated black sheep bof the thread. you know what? if you say so i agree i am his attorney.na my work (in real life we even defend as a matter of obligation thieves and scoundrels and knaves abi you no dey see criminals with lawyers for court?)

as a measure of my support for forgiveness please tell me what i think about the nwakali being in the 35 man list and about the exclusipn of kayode. shebi those are the things you guys berate forgiveness for. tell me what are my views on this two players

Bros, you are right on point. GBAM

forgiveness:


Tell why those where dropped?

We all know it has nothing to with footballing reasoning.

Continue to support mediocre. You go meet for front.

EXACTLY!

Different coaches have reasons for picking and/or dropping players, some of them are not for footballing reasons, but it is the coach's choice.

Why are you not accusing Sampaoli and Martinez of neptism and corruption?
nepotism

Goodjoe said coaches have different yardsticks and you were asking if it is Nigerian coaches. ALL coaches have different yardsticks.

They are HUMAN and just like every human being, some of their choices will be based on how they FEEL.


You and your supporters should stop coming to this thread and acting all sanctimonious as if your own lists would have been devoid of sentiments. If we allowed you guys draft a team list, I bet your teams would not have even qualified for the world cup going by the names you reel out here.


Not everything is about club form and game time, football is not one plus one. The sooner you realise that, the better for this thread

realpoacher:


I was waiting for this

Look at the following screenshots

1. Kayode total league goals over the total span of his career plus national team

2. Kayode total goals including league goals and cup gmaes

Vs

Picture 3. With Simy stats

90% of Simy's goals were scored in the second division. Sorry.

safarigirl:
EXACTLY!

Different coaches have reasons for picking and/or dropping players, some of them are not for footballing reasons, but it is the coach's choice.

Why are you not accusing Sampaoli and Martinez of neptism and corruption?
nepotism

Goodjoe said coaches have different yardsticks and you were asking if it is Nigerian coaches. ALL coaches have different yardsticks.

They are HUMAN and just like every human being, some of their choices will be based on how they FEEL.


You and your supporters should stop coming to this thread and acting all sanctimonious as if your own lists would have been devoid of sentiments. If we allowed you guys draft a team list, I bet your teams would not have even qualified for the world cup going by the names you reel out here.


Not everything is about club form and game time, football is not one plus one. The sooner you realise that, the better for this thread

The trend continues. Once is ok. Twice we can understand. Everytime, it's no longer making sense. I say then trend continues.

forgiveness:


The trend continues. Once is ok. Twice we can understand. Everytime, it's no longer making sense. I say then trend continues.

]This is exactly how sane members of this thread feel about your constant whining and wailing.

Pinnick is not on this thread, neither is Rohr, if you are so desperate for their attention, hop on a plane and talk to them in Russia. Stop bytching here

Probably scouts made recommendations as regards the 50. Don’t forget 50 was initially pruned down to 35.
younger players were also considered, especially those who seem really young. There is no secret about that since Rohr always had the future in view (remember Osimhen) On why Nwakali survived the cut from 50 to 35, I can’t tell. I too have questioned that.

As regards my question, I want to know what you think exactly. I don’t have the answers. When you say facts you can only present
facts and say, factual. The only fact here is Nwakali was in the 35. Maybe Chidiebere as well. Maybe Sadiq and Usman as well. Musa Muhammed must have been in the 50 for sure. Did Rohr and all his backroom staff also put together the 50 man list? Most likely so — understandably. Nepotism is in our
system, even in the church. Even in other countries. It doesn’t still make it right but we have to live with it in football as well just as we experience it in other spheres of Nigerian life.


Having said that, do u have the facts? What exactly are you saying Rohr and co are guilty of?

forgiveness:


I want to know how manage Nwakali made the 35 man list at the detriment of players that performed better than him this season?

I don't know if that your question is the answer. Is it?

There is no one standard that’s for sure. As a coach I would tell my scouts to look for players with certain qualities. After their recommendations I will also ask other questions e.g their stats etc. Stats should be one of the factors but not an absolute. A coach knows how he wants to play. His winning philosophy comes first, although some of us believe you just get the players with the best stats and form a playing system based on their qualities. I think it is a blend of the two approaches. And this is also true especially in national teams that have lots of players.

forgiveness:


Not based on merit again! I thought people claimed that Rohr choosed Simy because his recent stats was in the Seria A?

I am confused.

Joebie:
Probably scouts made recommendations as regards the 50. Don’t forget 50 was initially pruned down to 35.
younger players were also considered, especially those who seem really young. There is no secret about that since Rohr always had the future in view (remember Osimhen) On why Nwakali survived the cut from 50 to 35, I can’t tell. I too have questioned that.

As regards my question, I want to know what you think exactly. I don’t have the answers. When you say facts you can only present
facts and say, factual. The only fact here is Nwakali was in the 35. Maybe Chidiebere as well. Maybe Sadiq and Usman as well. Musa Muhammed must have been in the 50 for sure. Did Rohr and all his backroom staff also put together the 50 man list? Most likely so — understandably. Nepotism is in our
system, even in the church. Even in other countries. It doesn’t still make it right but we have to live with it in football as well just as we experience it in other spheres of Nigerian life.


Having said that, do u have the facts? What exactly are you saying Rohr and co are guilty of?

Nepotism is in everybody's system to some extent.

I don't think there is one person on this thread that will draft an unquestionable 50-man list or 35-man list. Even the most 'neutral' one of us, will have some players that may not merit being on the list.

It is a human thing to go for people you feel you can work best with. Football is a team sport, you consider the team, not just the player. You consider what your team needs, not simply that a player is good, you throw the person in.

If we start saying Rohr should have put Ebere, Onomah, Osas, this one or that one, what will remain of his team? The core of it.

It is a 23-man squad, if Rohr likes, he can throw his brother inside the 35-man list, it's inconsequential, what matters is who makes the 23-man squad. Someone already knows who he wants on his team list and you expect him to start listing serious contenders on the same list?


Is it not on this thread that we concluded that Rohr had his 23 already and it would take something special to gatecrash it? Is it in May, that forgiveness now expects the man to start holding auditions?


Ask forgiveness to give you a comprehensive 23-man list, as the coach of the team, let us see if he will assemble the best players in each position.


I have NO questions for Rohr. And NONE of us on this thread is blameless enough to have any questions either.

We simply don’t know. But I’m not going to recommend a Kayode if my specific immediate assignment is to look for tall players who can give us options as regards scoring headers. And that’s just an example. On club form alone, Kelechi dont even deserve to be on the 50. But keep your mind open

forgiveness:


The question I keep asking myself is, why did he not perform in the Eredivise before he was sent back to the second division?

How do we know those who performed in the top league in Europe wouldn't have done better if given the chance?

Good one!

TheGoodJoe:


Kelechi Nwakali is an identified special talent and if the coaching crew decides to look in to support him, I doff my heart to them and they earn my respect. When Iwobi made his debut for the Super Eagles, do you think they were no players playing regularly in clubs that would have gotten the nod ahead of Iwobi. However, his blending with the team, securing his allegiance and development with the team was a Priority. He got the nod in a crucial tie.

Maybe you have not heard the saying that football is not mathematics.

Joebie:
We simply don’t know. But I’m not going to recommend a Kayode if my specific immediate assignment is to look for tall players who can give us options as regards scoring headers. And that’s just an example. On club form alone, Kelechi dont even deserve to be on the 50. But keep your mind open

if it was by club form alone 15 of our eventual 23 would not even make the list

Didn’t Forgiveness read that part when Rohr said they asked themselves what each player can bring to the team before the team was pruned further down?
The question was never who had the best stats. Rohr already had his mind made up on the core team. Any new member would have to complement them based on the qualities they have.

safarigirl:
if it was by club form alone 15 of our eventual 23 would not even make the list

BLACK STARS BEAT JAPAN 2-0 IN INTERNATIONAL FRIENDLY

Stand in captain Thomas Partey got the opener in Ghana’s 2-0 over Japan in their international friendly played in Nissan stadium in Yokohama on Wednesday.

Emmanuel Boateng got his first goal for the senior national team when he converted from the spot in the 51 minute to increase the tally for Black Stars.

The Japanese were using the game as part of their preparations for the upcoming FIFA World Cup to be staged in Russia where they will face African side Senegal in the group stage.

Coach Kwesi Appiah also used the game to test his team’s preparedness for their upcoming 2019 AFCON qualifying matches later this year, after missing out on next month’s World Cup.

German based Akwasi Okyere, Nana Ampomah and Isaac Sackey all got their debut for the Black Stars in the match against the Blue Samurai.

The Black Stars will now face World Cup- bound Iceland on June 7 in another friendly.


https://www.ghanafa.org/black-stars-beat-japan-2-0-in-international-friendly

Al ahly sponsorship deal

forgiveness:



Are you a Nigerian?

Of what importance is my nationality? Let me throw the question back at you.

Are you a Nigerian? What part of Nigeria are you from? Do you have anyone in your family with progressive or non progressive mental deterioration? I asked because you showed typical traits of someone with paranoid schizophrenia or something worse typical of most Nigerians.

You lot suffer delusions or should i call it grandiose patriotism. I thought you were a troll till i started observing some traits about you. What's your relationship like offline? Do you have friends?, wife? children? girlfriend?

No disrespect sir, i think lots of people in this thread need help but you need help the most.

I will not get into your back and forth nonsense. I am only here to remind you that Eagles will not fly. It is not pessimism, you don't have the talent for that. You don't have the talent to face England. You will be beaten. You might get a draw against Czech before Croatia hammers you.

safarigirl:
my dear, there is something I always say- You never know how ready you are for an exam, until you see the questions.

Sometimes, you don't give your all in a test, but when the exam comes, it's a different ball game

You are right. That is what will happen to Eagles in London and Russia. When eagles sit in that exam hall, they will go blank, they will forget to write their names and numbers. They will look left, right, back and front but the VAR and eagle eyed officials will make sure that you amateur keeper did not pick that ball after it has crossed the lines(Poland and Serbia) They will make sure Dzeko-like goal was counted. No escape for you.

You will wear your feather like shirts with pride though, crazy fashonistas on the internet gave it huge review. That will be your compensation.

You lot should remove that 'Wing of African' slogan. You don't deserve it. You don't have the wings to fly so why attach Africa to your misfortune?

super eagle is a big cage chicken wearing the costume of an eagle.

MetalJigsaw:
BLACK STARS BEAT JAPAN 2-0 IN INTERNATIONAL FRIENDLY

Stand in captain Thomas Partey got the opener in Ghana’s 2-0 over Japan in their international friendly played in Nissan stadium in Yokohama on Wednesday.

Emmanuel Boateng got his first goal for the senior national team when he converted from the spot in the 51 minute to increase the tally for Black Stars.

The Japanese were using the game as part of their preparations for the upcoming FIFA World Cup to be staged in Russia where they will face African side Senegal in the group stage.

Coach Kwesi Appiah also used the game to test his team’s preparedness for their upcoming 2019 AFCON qualifying matches later this year, after missing out on next month’s World Cup.

German based Akwasi Okyere, Nana Ampomah and Isaac Sackey all got their debut for the Black Stars in the match against the Blue Samurai.

The Black Stars will now face World Cup- bound Iceland on June 7 in another friendly.


https://www.ghanafa.org/black-stars-beat-japan-2-0-in-international-friendly

This match should be cancelled if Nigeria should salvage any form of draw against Iceland. You can not prepare someone with an undergraduate exam questions for him to go and write junior WAEC. It won't be fair on his mates. Ghana will make Iceland to up their game and even develop some killer instincts when they play Nigeria. It is important for Africa that Nigeria do not lose all their matches in Russia. At least Nigeria will boast of holding Iceland who beat England (the potential destroyer of Nigeria on the 2nd of June).

Na wa

Mujtahida:
Na wa

Best to ignore..

forgiveness:


Tell us why those where dropped?

We all know it has nothing to with footballing reasoning.

Continue to support mediocre. You go meet am for front.

please I can help you with the nff address here in Abuja.... go lay your complains.
okay..and please stop sticking this thread...
rohr is the coach...incharge and he reserves the right to pick those players he believes that can get the job done....

so next time the coaching role becomes vacant please don't endeavour to apply....

Mujtahida:
Na wa

don't be surprised....I thought his foolish comments was begin to make sense to you.

some peeps are here for selfish reasons you may never know......
trust me this guy has an uterior motive...for being here.

komekn:


Systems are great but it's the players that win the games for you.

KC without support can become anonymous in addition he doesn't present a threat to unsettle defenders.

I said Iheanacho would be a supporting striker to any of Ighalo or Simy and not a lone striker.

And if Iheanacho doesn't present a threat to unsettle defenders which of the SS options does?

Mujtahida:

so at the WC na so we go sit down dey watch SE soak up pressure and then hit on the counter? wont that be too predictable?

The truth is we are underdogs in our group.

The only team I feel we may just be at par with or dominate is Iceland.

Expect us to soak up so much pressure against Croatia and Argentina.