STAN Collymore:

Sol Campbell
UEFA Pro Licence (Gold standard). Illustrious playing career.

Can't get Grimsby Town job.

Gerrard
UEFA A Licence (1 down from Campbell. Illustrious playing career.

Rangers manager

Lampard
UEFA B ( 2 down from SC). Illustrious playing career.
Derby manager


Cc: Komekn

Is this racism?

TheGoodJoe:


Arteta was special and did not play for Spain or England. That does not mean he was not a good talent or capable of supporting these teams. It happens.

Not everyone will get picked. Those that want the opportunities should keep working hard and praying.

In the scheme of things there were far better players than Arteta the small matter of Iniesta and Xavi. To name just a few.

This your argument has no anchor ⚓

If Nigeria play like they played during the qualifiers then England will be beaten. England is not a good side at all - ive watched there qualifying games and they were atrocious. Nigeria can beat them and that includes Croatia, Iceland (Iceland I suspect will be tough for all the teams - you watch) and Argentina ( they have big problems - did you see them against Haiti - terrible)

Nigeria will dictate the game - watch and see

MetalJigsaw:
My guy I know that England are the favorites especially as the game will take place in their home yard. But you are Nigerian. It's your fatherland. And as a matter of, fact the Super Eagles are more than capable of defeating any team on their day. Ask Argentina and Poland.

Joebie:
Now agents must be happy their players at least made the 35 man list that was never released. Will they ask for a refund?

Sir there is a problem, but you are making it bigger than it really is.

Let me not assume the above. I would like to know what you really think happened.

You know where I from come.

It's not everything I can say here, I could lose anonymity and face litigation. Buy you know our people what concern them more the purity of getting the best footballers or the best deal.

That sentiment is not unique to Nigeria but widespread across football globally.

tbaba1234:


Fading players... Taribo was no longer the same, babayaro was not the same, Adepoju was not the same. It was a fading team. After 2002, how many more games did these players play? The present team has up and coming players, youthful enthusiasm. The winner of such a match is not a foregone conclusion.

The 2002 WC team was more dependent on Okocha because we left out some big names than our present team is dependent on Mikel.

Apart from Ndidi who are the rest.

komekn:


Apart from Ndidi who are the rest.

Iwobi, Iheanacho, Ebuehi, Aina, Ekong...

safarigirl:
EXACTLY!

Different coaches have reasons for picking and/or dropping players, some of them are not for footballing reasons, but it is the coach's choice.

Why are you not accusing Sampaoli and Martinez of neptism and corruption?
nepotism

Goodjoe said coaches have different yardsticks and you were asking if it is Nigerian coaches. ALL coaches have different yardsticks.

They are HUMAN and just like every human being, some of their choices will be based on how they FEEL.


You and your supporters should stop coming to this thread and acting all sanctimonious as if your own lists would have been devoid of sentiments. If we allowed you guys draft a team list, I bet your teams would not have even qualified for the world cup going by the names you reel out here.


Not everything is about club form and game time, football is not one plus one. The sooner you realise that, the better for this thread

Actually essentially it is.

I speak to countless football recruitment heads and football analysts. They all WITHOUT EXCEPTION start off with statistics.

Liam More played for a dead team Reading last season has played for two seasons non stop no injuries.

He has the best statistics in the Championship he is on his way to back to the EPL.

What makes Ndidi stand out, check his stats.

I can say your proposition is Totally wrong.

So yes much to the disappointment of some here, football na MATHEMATICS.

forgiveness:


You asked for players better than Nwakali home and abroad that can be added to the team at the moment and I gave you Ajagun(home) and Eze(abroad) but this is all you could come up with. Smh


However, if I have Ajagun in mind, what is bad about that?


How many of those players in current team is younger than Ajagun that are for the future out of the 26 players in the camp?

Why don't we carry Emmanuel Amuneke under 17 winning team to the world Cup because they for the future?

Do you think the world cup is for under age players?

Let us kuku ma replace Simy with Osimhen because he's for the future, right?

As you can see more than 10 - 12 of his age mates which is half of of the team are currently in the National team. Then, I don't think age is the problem.

Can you now give me another sensible and reasonable explaination for your disaproval of Ajagun?

Note : I do not intend to go back and forth with you...

Firstly nwakali is not going to the world Cup...

Secondly players of ajagun's age in camp right now are better than him. Mikel, ogu, onazi, Joel....

Thirdly the younger players in camp for the future are better than ajagun.... Ndidi and Iwobi.....even Agu. Please narrow this discussion to midfielders.

Lastly I do not disapprove of ajagun I am only letting you know that you and komekn basis of disapproving nwakali is flawed in all ramifications because anyone who is not blind can see that he is been groomed. Besides he has had jus one call up. His brother two.

Don't turn this into an ajagun argument.

I see komekn avoiding my question... Yes he should hide in shame..... Mentioning all sort of special players who are not Nigerians. You feel say na to speak plenty grammer be the thing. If komekn can give just a name. I will put my ass up for display in shame.... Or I will come kiss his feet any time he comes to Warri....

I challenge you komekn give me a name or forever remain shut.

eterisan:
Note : I do not intend to go back and forth with you...

Firstly nwakali is not going to the world Cup...

Secondly players of ajagun's age in camp right now are better than him. Mikel, ogu, onazi, Joel....

Thirdly the younger players in camp for the future are better than ajagun.... Ndidi and Iwobi.....even Agu. Please narrow this discussion to midfielders.

Lastly I do not disapprove of ajagun I am only letting you know that you and komekn basis of disapproving nwakali is flawed in all ramifications because anyone who is not blind can see that he is been groomed. Besides he has had jus one call up. His brother two.

Don't turn this into an ajagun argument.

I see komekn avoiding my question... Yes he should hide in shame..... Mentioning all sort of special players who are not Nigerians. You feel say na to speak plenty grammer be the thing. If komekn can give just a name. I will put my ass up for display in shame.... Or I will come kiss his feet any time he comes to Warri....

Sorry in football you do not groom players it's not financial services.

Players are selected on current continous consistent performances. Those units of measurement are objective not subjective and are the justification for selection, anything else is simply favoritism.

komekn:


Sorry in football you do not groom players it's not financial services.

Players are selected on current continous consistent performances. Those units of measurement are objective not subjective and are the justification for selection, anything else is simply favoritism.

oga give me a name from your pot of objective gold who deserves to be eased into the national team set up better than nwakali. Who is a top performer in whatever division. Special talent o. Nigerian o. Home or innit.

If Moses Simon is declared fit for the group stage, Rohr could decide to name 7 defenders, 7 midfielders and 6 forwards in order to accommodate both Simon M and Simmy Nwankwo

pelezico:
If Nigeria play like they played during the qualifiers then England will be beaten. England is not a good side at all - ive watched there qualifying games and they were atrocious. Nigeria can beat them and that includes Croatia, Iceland (Iceland I suspect will be tough for all the teams - you watch) and Argentina ( they have big problems - did you see them against Haiti - terrible)

Nigeria will dictate the game - watch and see

Exactly. i agree with u

OMANBALA1:


One on one Ighalo is very dangerous, Ighalo can take on any defender and destroy him. Is it because he is not European ?

Anyone who watched Ighalo at Watford wouldn't doubt this. His problem is he's a streaky sort of striker. Ighalo is the best allround striker we have at the moment.

Eterisan,

I have not responded to your latter question ❓

I find it discriminatory and birthed from the same place as racism and tribalism. That's why you have no answer.

I describe myself as born in the UK but made in Warri

I speak Igbo of course Isoko / Urhobo and a smattering of Yoruba. I do not consider myself any less Nigerian or more Nigerian than those born in my ancestral village.

The substance and underlying rhetoric of your question ❓ is negatively divisory.

Maybe if you rephrased the question with a more positive inclusive approach I will respond.

Maradona 1986, the best individual performance in a WC


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rftoMXeGp0

tbaba1234:


Iwobi, Iheanacho, Ebuehi, Aina, Ekong...

Yes I agree with that

pelezico:
If Nigeria play like they played during the qualifiers then England will be beaten. England is not a good side at all - ive watched there qualifying games and they were atrocious. Nigeria can beat them and that includes Croatia, Iceland (Iceland I suspect will be tough for all the teams - you watch) and Argentina ( they have big problems - did you see them against Haiti - terrible)

Nigeria will dictate the game - watch and see

I think you are the only one dreaming this dream, please wake up Oh.

The way some folks here right off our dear team is really disheartening. I'm sure some Arsenal fans are among them. So sad.

komekn:
Eterisan,

I have not responded to your latter question ❓

I find it discriminatory and birthed from the same place as racism and tribalism. That's why you have no answer.

I describe myself as born in the UK but made in Warri

I speak Igbo of course Isoko / Urhobo and a smattering of Yoruba. I do not consider myself any less Nigerian or more Nigerian than those born in my ancestral village.

The substance and underlying rhetoric of your question ❓ is negatively divisory.

Maybe if you rephrased the question with a more positive inclusive approach I will respond.

bros nor de confuse me with English... I go school....

Nor de give me your history, I don't need it.

How is asking you to give me a name of any Nigerian special talent midfielder better than nwakali, who deserves a call up right now racism or tribalism.... Smh......

Go sedan where fit you bros...you nor get answer even if you think from now till next year.

You can fool some people all the time, everybody some of the time but not all the people all the time.....

MetalJigsaw:
Exactly. i agree with u

You suprise me oh.

To quote, " "England is not a good side at all "

And you agree with that proposition, I expected a lot more from you.

forgiveness:


Really! I hope the coach gets selection and formation right.

I would like to see Rohr's preferred goalkeeper, wing backs, wingers and striker.

i do wish to see a 442 formation at one point in either of the two friendlies.


Why?
When last did we score from cross and nod? Shivering.


Yeah times have changed, but imagine the thrill of getting that right!!

eterisan:
bros nor de confuse me with English... I go school....

Nor de give me your history, I don't need it.

How is asking you to give me a name of any Nigerian special talent midfielder better than nwakali, who deserves a call up right now racism or tribalism.... Smh......

Go sedan where fit you bros...you nor get answer even if you think from now till next year.

You can fool some people all the time, everybody some of the time but not all the people all the time.....

Ovie Ejaria
Tega Onomah
Seyi Ojo
Sone Aluko

komekn:


You suprise me oh.

To quote, " "England is not a good side at all "

And you agree with that proposition, I expected a lot more from you.

Actually, I replied him based on his statement about SE. England are a good side, but but not very good .

komekn:


Ovie Ejaria
Tega Onomah
Seyi Ojo
Sone Aluko

chaiiii...... Finally..... Phew..... It took a lot to get this out of you....

Ovie plays for England youth team.... Ruled out.
Same as tega...... And ojo..... All ruled out for now... They cannot be invited at this moment...they are not interested in us sef o.. And they even play for lower division teams o.

Nawa for you o bros. Small time u go tell us say their league rate pass Holland division 2 . We agree.... So them be special talent too....

Finally... We dr end up with aluko and ajagun..... So you and forgiveness nor de tire....

How is aluko competing with nwakali.... Is he a future prospect.... Aluko is competing with Mikel, ogu, and Joel or even Agu.... Currently he is not part of the team so how do you expect him to be in the world cup...... Besides what special thing has he done this season to warrant a call ahead of established team members.....

Do you now see that your argument is flawed. You criticism of nwakali has no basis cos simply there is no future prospect better and available right now... Gerrit

BTW nor de call yourself made in Warri cos you have no idea what it means.... Abeg.... We fit liv one or two for ur sclero.... Jus kponkpi.....

komekn:


Camp is indicative not holistically absolute.

What you get in camp which is at best a couple of weeks is a small insight into a player ability. The more objective, conclusive and all encompassing assessment is what that player does week in week out in his club.

You no go be cockroach for Lagos come turn Lion when you reach Warri, Eéeeeeee no deh happen.

In the same vein you can't all of a sudden go to camp and become a prolific goal scorer bullying defenders left, right and center, when in your club and league you have been anonymous all season.

All that talk about camp performance is to move away from the objective to anchor on the subjective, which is open to abuse.

Look at top performing countries they always have thier top performing players. If those players have underperformed in the league, they are simply out, all things being equal.

in conclusion what is your point?

eterisan:
You are so predictable, everyone here knows you had ajagun in mind when criticizing nwakali.... Can't you change for once... That ebere you added there is just so that you will not be tagged tribal.... BTW does ebere deserve it more than nwakali..... Or is your washed up ajagun [old man] a special talent..... I tire for you....

Nwakali is the future not your ajagun deal with it.
Just like ndidi and nacho, nwakali is an NFF project. They distinguished themselves at youth level. They are our own, our products and have to be groomed. Ebere Eze is on NFF radar but currently doesn't deserve it more. It's not like he is a Nigerian yet in the eyes of FIFA.

For Ajagun, well sorry is your name. We have better midfielders of his age in the NT set up currently so right now he has no chance. This is the reality. Again Nwakali is the future.. just as TheGoodJoe mentioned chalobah training with the English team.... I rest my case for now

So you mean Ajagun is not NFF project? Smh

You must be very ignorant.

Ajagun was a member of the U17 and U20 of our National team.

He was even the captain of Ndidi, Kayode and Simon, Shehu, Aminu Umar and Kingsley Madu in the 2013 U20 set yet he's not part of NFF project.

He was the only Nigerian that made the U20 Africa championship best 11 and he was the best player in that team.

However, some of these players have gotten into the National team by using it to the resart their career.

You surely don't have any idea.

tbaba1234:
Colin Udoh on Mikel Agu training...

maybe we have not been fair judging the dude

forgiveness:


So you mean Ajagun is not NFF project? Smh

You must be very ignorant.

Ajagun was a member of the U17 and U20 of our National team.

He was even the captain of Ndidi, Kayode and Simon, Shehu, Aminu Umar and Kingsley Madu in the 2013 U20 set yet he's not part of NFF project.

He was the only Nigerian that made the U20 Africa championship best 11 and he was the best player in that team.

However, some of these players have gotten into the National team by using it to the resart their career.

You surely don't have any idea.

is that all.... Tell me what I don't know not what I know. Abeg I am tired. How is ajagun more of future prospect than nwakali. Are they mates.

Ajagun mate pass am.... Stop going back and forth with this ajagun and aluko thing. They are not part of the team. Simple. They are not better than their mates in the team simple. As if you don't want ajagun in the national team so as to restart his career.

Nwakali is not their competition. Simple....he is not even in the team... Gerrit... We are looking at the u23 team and eagles post Russia. He was bought by arsenal after his performances at youth level. If that isn't special talent what is. Who bought ajagun after his own time as captain. I'm done with you here abeg.... Thank you

I rather he goes with 6 midfielders since Shehu can play both RB and DM

PDPGuy:
If Moses Simon is declared fit for the group stage, Rohr could decide to name 7 defenders, 7 midfielders and 6 forwards in order to accommodate both Simon M and Simmy Nwankwo

pelezico:
If Nigeria play like they played during the qualifiers then England will be beaten. England is not a good side at all - ive watched there qualifying games and they were atrocious. Nigeria can beat them and that includes Croatia, Iceland (Iceland I suspect will be tough for all the teams - you watch) and Argentina ( they have big problems - did you see them against Haiti - terrible)

Nigeria will dictate the game - watch and see

England seem to have the same problem with us without Mikel. They lack that player to link up play between midfield and attack. I think Southgate is hoping RLC is that guy. Tbh RLC is doing what I expected Joel Obi to do for us...driving with the ball into the final third.
The difference is they have a higher quality of players at the attacking 3rd and have Henderson to dictate play from deep.
They are favorites to win but we can always spring a surprise as usual.

PDPGuy:
If Moses Simon is declared fit for the group stage, Rohr could decide to name 7 defenders, 7 midfielders and 6 forwards in order to accommodate both Simon M and Simmy Nwankwo

I don't mind dropping Simy for Moses Simon if worse comes to worse. We need every player that can provide a bit of guile.

somehow:
I rather he goes with 6 defenders since Shehu can play both RB and DM

Taking only six defenders is risky because one or two injuries/suspensions would render the defense bare