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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:02am On Jun 01, 2018
gamaliel9:
I am so happy Ndidi will not play against England....We need him fit for the main event...he has proved himself...he slots into the team easily...nothing to prove again

Not good news bro.

The WC is 13 days away and 15days to our first game. If he is not playing active football now it may likely affect his performance in the first game. That guy may have become match rusty by then.

If he doesn't feature in any of the friendlies I think he should not start our first game. He may be later introduced into the game depending on how the game is progressing. Or in our subsequent games.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:02am On Jun 01, 2018
Kog45:
Andrew sometimes better not to dabble into confrontation analysis cos eterisan and forgiveness are confronting not talking football.

Kelechi Nwakili is a young prospect and still developing? yes do we need to argue it cos against Atletico he did well.Hope to see him developing into a great player.

Ajagun is one of the project of Nigeria football and good at 25 not too old to make eagles in nearest future.He even deserves a look in but Rohr has his plan,so we can't force him.

I think based on special talents i don't see anything wrong in Nwakili invitation cos right now Nathaniel Challobah is training with England national team preparing to face Nigeria.

I will not deceive you Ajagun deserves a call based on his performance so far this season and funny enough we don't have much options in AM but sometimes it happen, so not a big deal.

I know nah and mind you I am a fan of nwakali.

Chalobah training with England anyway na training sha because that guy no sabi ball

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:02am On Jun 01, 2018
PDPGuy:
If Moses Simon is declared fit for the group stage, Rohr could decide to name 7 defenders, 7 midfielders and 6 forwards in order to accommodate both Simon M and Simmy Nwankwo

what do we need 7 midfielders for, most of them are similar, hey pack them all

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 8:04am On Jun 01, 2018
Kog45:
Andrew sometimes better not to dabble into confrontation analysis cos eterisan and forgiveness are confronting not talking football.

Kelechi Nwakili is a young prospect and still developing? yes do we need to argue it cos against Atletico he did well.Hope to see him developing into a great player.

Ajagun is one of the project of Nigeria football and good at 25 not too old to make eagles in nearest future.He even deserves a look in but Rohr has his plan,so we can't force him.

I think based on special talents i don't see anything wrong in Nwakili invitation cos right now Nathaniel Challobah is training with England national team preparing to face Nigeria.

I will not deceive you Ajagun deserves a call based on his performance so far this season and funny enough we don't have much options in AM but sometimes it happen, so not a big deal.
chief sorry if it comes across that way. Everything you have said now is exactly what I have been saying, but forgiveness and komekn chose to ignore. I have already said ajagun deserves to be called up and I have apologized for calling him old and washed up

Post Russia we may see Ajagun. I will change my tone if it sounds confrontational. Sorry once again.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:04am On Jun 01, 2018
eterisan:
good morning bros. This is my last response to you on this matter. Nwakali is not super eagles player. He u23. Ure innit boys would not have been ready to play for is in the athletico game. Fact.

I am not an agent like you, neither do I have the zeal to start bringing up statistics. Maybe someone will help me. But nwakali is from Nigeria not England so you don't expect it to be as easy for him as your innit boys in England.

We have seen your preferred choices so whenever you criticize nwakali we know how to respond. Have a good day.

One question ❓ How many of the so called innit boys have you spoken too . By the way I am not an agent.

You have EVADED the substance of this discourse which is not Nwakali but a system that enthrones subjective favouritism over objective measured substantiated quality consistent continous outstanding performance.

Your response is garnished with your prejudice over the divide you create with what you define as Nigerians.

You may find it hard to believe, but it's actually easier for a Nigerian national youth team player to get in than an innit boy as you put it.

Your prejudiced sentiment is underpinned with lack of knowledge bigotry, very sad indeed.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:04am On Jun 01, 2018
eterisan:
Ajagun is 25..wow....... OK OK....I am not against him.. Ajagun over who right now in the super eagles..... See how this discuss has successfully changed from nwakali in the u23 training game against athletico into an ajagun for eagles call up?

lol I never said he should be called up I am just answering some questions trust me,maybe his time will come after the World Cup.

A big fan of nwakali talking,trust me
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:06am On Jun 01, 2018
komekn:

I think you are the only one dreaming this dream, please wake up Oh.
his not the only one, I'm in that dream too, we will play England

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:06am On Jun 01, 2018
komekn:

I think you are the only one dreaming this dream, please wake up Oh.
his not the only one, I'm in that dream too, we will play England
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:06am On Jun 01, 2018
Mujtahida:

Nobody runs away from this fact. It's a mute point. We are looking at effectiveness and the best position for him not whether he starts or not. Iwobi starting or not starting is not an issue for me particularly now that S. Moses is probably out of contention. The quality of his play is my concern. Till date you've not convinced me that Iwobi is effective on the wings. You just keep saying he is a starter. Starting is not gold. Effectiveness is. His career prospects, our WC prospects hinges not on whether he starts but on his effectiveness. No coach ever buys a player because he is a starter. Effectiveness is the premium quality coaches look for.

Once again proof to us that Iwobi is effective from the wings.

Which of the other wingers is more effective than Iwobi on the wings?

Besides, I don't think you have described Iwobi's AM abilities better than I have done here.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:11am On Jun 01, 2018
edi287:

I don't mind dropping Simy for Moses Simon if worse comes to worse. We need every player that can provide a bit of guile.

why drop Moses simon and then pack 8 midfielders because to me iwobi is among the midfielders

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by KK50: 8:11am On Jun 01, 2018
darkelf:


Sometimes, I wonder if some overly-patriotic fans watch the same game every other person does. We shouldn't let blind patriotism fool us. The eagles have been uncordinated, shambolic and clueless in all their friendly games. I don't know if it's because Rohr is trying different tactics but we can't afford to play like this in the WC. If not, we will pay dearly.



Nigeria did well qualifying from the group stage, however the magic has left them. They have not been playing well. They were lucky against Poland. Nigeria did not create much chances, the one that fell on Ighalo's path was wasted, a better and much more composed striker would have blasted the ball at the roof of the net. Lewandoski nearly scored a beautiful goal.

Serbs exposed Nigeria. Joel Obi struggled because his talent and ability are limited. You can't give what you dont have. I think stress or age might be telling on him. He works too hard when a much gentle approach would have done the job. Onazi is becoming too fat, he is overweight, that might become evident soon. For those shouting 25 years, body structure is different, a Mikel can not be compared with an Onazi, Mikel might play longer than him. Mikel is tall, slim and lean. fat/muscle ratio is less for Mikel. I rememebr a certain Garuba Lawal, his type might play till they are 45 and fans would see him as a 29 year old, compare him to Abedi Pele or Roberto Carlos...those type of footballers with massive thighs and low centre of gravity who are power horses in their 20s but accumulate fats all over like michelin man in their 30s.

Before i digress....Nigeria will lose against England and they will be chasing shadows against Croatia.

Pros...This is a chance for Simi who has potential to shine and get better club, i think he is a good footballer with very good prospects.
Ebuehi, Ekong, Awazie, Idowu, Agu should utilise th opportunity to help their careers. Iheanacho and Musa should try and shut up British fans who think they are not good enough.

If they all fail, this is the chance for Uzoho to propel himself to better height. It's one chance they should grab it. It might not come again.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:12am On Jun 01, 2018
Icon4s:


I hope you know Onazi belong in the same Class(age grade) as likes of Omeruo, Shehu, Musa, Kayode and Ekong. So he may still be around for a couple of more years.
This is our major problem we tend to discard player easily based on age even if he is still performing.

At 25 these guys are still young and if they can continue with good performance then they are good for 2022 WC.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Morrowind: 8:12am On Jun 01, 2018
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 8:13am On Jun 01, 2018
komekn:


You have EVADED the substance of this discourse which is not Nwakali but a system that enthrones subjective favouritism over objective measured substantiated quality consistent continous outstanding performance.


You may find it hard to believe, but it's actually easier for a Nigerian national youth team player to get in than an innit boy as you put it.

Your prejudiced sentiment is underpinned with lack of knowledge bigotry, very sad indeed.
TIA. So your objective and non emotive stance is not about nwakali but the system. One that should invite tega, ovie and seyi over nwakali for the athletico game..... Am I getting you right.

Secondly you mean nwakali would find it easy to get a work permit and walk into the arsenal team better than tega for Liverpool onomah for Tottenham and seyi wherever he is, rather than been loaned across Europe? Please elucidate, I want to learn.

And also care to explain how I am now a bigot and also prejudiced? Especially over you?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:19am On Jun 01, 2018
Kog45:
This is our major problem we tend to discard player easily based on age even if he is still performing.

At 25 these guys are still young and if they can continue with good performance then they are good for 2022 WC.



They discard them when their experiences are needed most. And we begin all over again and be giving excuses of presenting a young and inexperienced team. Calling it a team for the future. That future way no dey ever reach .

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:19am On Jun 01, 2018
eterisan:
chief sorry if it comes across that way. Everything you have said now is exactly what I have been saying, but forgiveness and komekn chose to ignore. I have already said ajagun deserves to be called up and I have apologized for calling him old and washed up

Post Russia we may see Ajagun. I will change my tone if it sounds confrontational. Sorry once again.
Good my man,now let's talk Nigeria/England and leave this Nwakili and Ajagun stuff,is becoming stinks.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:19am On Jun 01, 2018
tbaba1234:
Team A in Training today:
Uzoho

Shehu
Idowu
Ekong
Balogun

Onazi
Joel Obi
Mikel

V.Moses
Iwobi
Ighalo

This looks like the most likely starting line-up

from the look of things Agu might be dropped for Joel and Rohr actually see some good in Joel obi and that's risky for Etebo or Ogu if simon is fit

#permutation
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 8:21am On Jun 01, 2018
Kog45:
This is our major problem we tend to discard player easily based on age even if he is still performing.

At 25 these guys are still young and if they can continue with good performance then they are good for 2022 WC.


errm.. don't want to bring this issue up again but if what they are saying they are isnt what they really are then one cannot cheat oneself
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 8:23am On Jun 01, 2018
Mujtahida:

Nobody runs away from this fact. It's a mute point. We are looking at effectiveness and the best position for him not whether he starts or not. Iwobi starting or not starting is not an issue for me particularly now that S. Moses is probably out of contention. The quality of his play is my concern. Till date you've not convinced me that Iwobi is effective on the wings. You just keep saying he is a starter. Starting is not gold. Effectiveness is. His career prospects, our WC prospects hinges not on whether he starts but on his effectiveness. No coach ever buys a player because he is a starter. Effectiveness is the premium quality coaches look for.

Once again proof to us that Iwobi is effective from the wings.
Iwobi played all the qualifiers as a winger and he scored goals playing from the wings.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:24am On Jun 01, 2018
somehow:
Loving Agu is not enough to take him ahead of more established players except he wants issues with the NFF. Etebo na pinnick boy.

If he so much love Agu, how come he used him sparingly during qualifiers?

In as much as i don't like Agu that much, the coach has the right to take him if he feel he did better than the rest.

Where NFA dey when joel,Martins and ideye were dropped for Uchebo, ameobi and Reuben

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:25am On Jun 01, 2018
asha80:
errm.. don't want to bring this issue up again but if what they are saying they are isnt what they really are then one cannot cheat oneself
Age discrepancies abi,naturally it will tell you can't cheat a nature.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 8:26am On Jun 01, 2018
Kog45:
Age discrepancies abi,naturally it will tell you can't cheat a nature.
yes

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 8:31am On Jun 01, 2018
Martz101:


why drop Moses simon and then pack 8 midfielders because to me iwobi is among the midfielders
The coach is listing him as a forward, you dey talk say 'to me'.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:31am On Jun 01, 2018
tbaba1234:
I think Ogu might be dropped. It looks like Joel Obi is the preferred choice in the absence of Ndidi. That means that the last midfield slot goes to Agu or Ogu.

I don't think he will be dropped, Etebo or Agu
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:32am On Jun 01, 2018
Martz101:


from the look of things Agu might be dropped for Joel and Rohr actually see some good in Joel obi and that's risky for Etebo or Ogu if simon is fit

#permutation
Yes permutation.Simon making it is dicey but let's wait and see what happens after England match.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:34am On Jun 01, 2018
tbaba1234:


If Ogu plays little or no part in the England friendly and Agu plays a part, then i think Ogu will be dropped. Agu played pretty well against DRC when he came on and he appears to be doing well in training according to reports. It is not as clear cut.

Ogu has not disappointed in all games he played under Rohr

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:35am On Jun 01, 2018
Martz101:

I don't think he will be dropped, Etebo or Agu
Etebo is in Russia already.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:35am On Jun 01, 2018
Icon4s:


We are not likely to start Ighalo and Simy together. They are both natural CF.

Under a 4-4-2 formation in addition to the CF you play a supporting striker that can easily fall deep into the midfield to get balls and also easily joins the attack when on the offensive. That description fits Iheanacho.

We may only play Ighalo and Simi together if we are chasing a game and the coach decides to throw in all his dice. In this case a midfielder or defender may likely be sacrificed for the extra CF to be thrown in.

2 CF can play in a 4-4-2
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:36am On Jun 01, 2018
komekn:


Very wrong THIERRY HENRY did not flop at Juventus that's misinformation.

Heading from goal website. I wonder who is misinforming people here.


Why Arsenal’s greatest ever player Thierry Henry flopped at Juventus

http://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/why-arsenals-greatest-ever-player-thierry-henry-flopped-at/1cm8a2fywxl631509ymmfqct5y
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:36am On Jun 01, 2018
Martz101:

2 CF can play in a 4-4-2
Yes but not the kind of Ighalo and Simi kind of CFs.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by M7even(m): 8:37am On Jun 01, 2018
Some crisis amongst NFF officials. This has to do with 250,000 dollars they received from Rivers state governor. Money is said to have been missing
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:38am On Jun 01, 2018
tbaba1234:


Mikel agu was left out/opted out of the Poland game because he had to renew his passport. It was travel problems that made him miss the friendly.

Mikel agu was called to replace Mikel in london after mikel withdrew from the friendly, Mikel was not invited originally

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