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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 8:38am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Mujtahida: Haven't you heard?... Training performance is different from match day performance! Performance in training can be highly deceptive |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:39am On Jun 01, 2018 |
komekn: To form the new "Simghalo" partnership!!! The bullying job is undisputedly with Joel Obi. He should sleep in a Russia bed. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:39am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Martz101: That is what Boss Icon4s is saying. You can play two center forwards but one of them has to offer mobility and creativity. So Iheanacho is the better option to pair one of the natural center forwards we have. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:43am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Icon4s: If Ogu doesn't kick ball versus England. he is one of the two to be dropped. Besides of he kicks ball and underperforms, then he will go. Rohr likes Agu and Joel too much. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:45am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Mujtahida: i remember keshi dropping Ogu too in 2014. Onazi is just 25, i don't see him dropping out of super eagles after worldcup if Nigeria and him do well there 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:46am On Jun 01, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: I don't know why this is difficult to accept or comprehend. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:47am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Martz101: He was not on the original list because of passport issues. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:58am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Mujtahida: when you guys keep saying iwobi is not good in the wings it makes me laugh these same people will say we don't have a number 10, abeg does it mean iwobi don't have a wing?? The truth Is or else you play a 4-4-2 you actually don't really require a true winger that sill need to connect with the 2 forward. we play 4-2-3-1 just like iwobi team arsenal, when you play that formation, the 3 guys behind the lone striker interchange at some time and also go forward to assist the long striker, they are not really wingers. in arsenal you will see players like Ozil,Mkhitaryan and iwobi playing there...they are all potential number 10 and non is a true winger. Jose mourinho adopted that same style in chelsea playing the likes of Hazard,Willian and Oscar behind a striker, non is a true winger |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:59am On Jun 01, 2018 |
eterisan: Getting into European youth academy football is easier for a Nigerian youth international than an innit boy. You made the proposition that it's much harder for boys coming from Nigeria to get into football than boys here. The branding of Nigerian youth international will open doors for you in Europe unlike Nigeria origin players coming from local clubs in England. The case of Ademola Lookman comes to mind from Sunday football to EPL player within 3 years. Invited by Nigerian age grade but not followed through. England then got him. Who do you then blame ![]() It's bigotry to create division in the negative between what you define as Nigerian. You dismissed by substance and intent by excluding Nigerian origin players as being not Nigerian. The same rhetoric is behind tribalism and racism. That's why I termed it bigotry. Do you understand my position now. I've known Tega since he was 15 at Tottenham and he had to prove himself over many years. The same goes for Ovie who left Arsenal for Liverpool, Seyi was different he came to Liverpool at 14 with a £1.8 million price tag. Last season Newcastle put in a bid for £10 million Liverpool refused. Nwakali is not an expensive investment for Arsenal it's a speculative one. He has been sent out on loan to prove his potential, sadly and unfortunately he has remained anonymous in the much lower Dutch leagues. That essentially means he has not justified the investment. When a player goes on loan if he performs his value and rating go up if he does not they go down. Consider Tega Abrahams I've known him for quite a long time too. One season in the Championship and his value sky rocketed. Easy access to the EPL now he is wanted by several EPL clubs even after the relegation of Swansea. How many Eredivisie clubs tried to buy Nwakali question ❓how many asked for a loan move ❓ Almost none why ![]() I refer you to a previous post where I gave countless examples of former youth players that cost huge money now playing non league in England. Considering all these variables do you still hand on heart ♥ honestly think that we are talking about Exceptional Talent ![]() In reality if Nwakali had been outstanding in the Eredivisie, became the stand out player. It would be possible using exceptional talent proviso to get a work permit for him. He would then be playing for Arsenal or some other top club. But as it stands the possibility of him ever playing for Arsenal is near impossible. The only way his career can progress is on the back of national team selection. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:00am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Martz101: This is a 5 star comment. They would rather put Iwobi on the bench and wait for Mikel to get tired before bringing him in. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:01am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Kog45: Tunji banjo is a midfielder |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:02am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Martz101: Naija problem looking for inducement over quality proven ability. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:05am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Martz101: Everything you deh talk na true, one big problem. We are not Arsenal, we don't have Ozil or Aubemyang. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:05am On Jun 01, 2018 |
eterisan: Ajagun deserves a chance, truth be told. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:10am On Jun 01, 2018 |
komekn: I'm not talking the players ozil and Aubemyang, I'm talking about the system 4-2-3-1, trying to make you understand that iwobi can thrive any where behind the lone striker and he dont need need a skill of a winger to that |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:16am On Jun 01, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: kanu - Crouch (Portsmouth)?? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:18am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Icon4s: i actually don't like the 4-4-2 thing, but ighalo got a lot quantity to play off a striker, his skillful, with good vision |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:19am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Martz101:Yes a defender with Leyton Orient but alternate as defender and midfielder with eagles. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:26am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Kog45: oh ok 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:27am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Martz101:Yes Kanu looked cool as SS and i don't even see him as thorough CF and his goal rating in eagles testify to it. I remember Kanu-Agali combination in 2002 WC qualifiers,the two scored 8 goals(kanu 4 goals and Agali 4 goals) But big question can Ighalo and Simy do it when we have Iheanacho in the team who always look solid behind the main man. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:34am On Jun 01, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: if Iheanacho partner them then is a 4-4-1-1 is a little bit different from a 4-4-2 but well what do i know |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:35am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Icon4s:To me it's not whether he is more effective than the other wingers and in fact I consider Simon better than him. My point is that I see him having potential to be far more effective playing from the middle. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:36am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Icon4s:Not necessarily his age but capabilities. He's slowing down |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:42am On Jun 01, 2018 |
komekn: i want you to be honest, were you impress with Nwakali in the athletico match? 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:43am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Martz101: I would not disagree with you. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:43am On Jun 01, 2018 |
tbaba1234: I have followed Agu enough to know he is good. It sums up the reason I was the first person among this group to clamor for his invitation. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:44am On Jun 01, 2018 |
komekn: This long story is an evasion of the truth. How many Nigerian internationals are playing in English youth academies compared to the innit boys. I bet it would be of ratio of 100 innit boys to one Nigerian International. Yet you are trying to sell that the Nigerian internationals have advantage. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:44am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Kog45: was it only that watch the poland game, he failed in that role and he made ighalo look worst |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 9:44am On Jun 01, 2018 |
KK50: Too much EPL dey worry this one...... you go soon purge. Continue |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:45am On Jun 01, 2018 |
The England game is a friendly. We are probably going to make 6 subs. Who are we going to bring in in the 2nd half? Not starting a player does not necessarily mean they are inferior to the starters. Friendlies are still test matches. Iwobi didn’t even score against Argentina until the second half. And who says we can’t bring him immediately after half time. Matches like this will help us decide who to start in a more serious match like Croatia. I won’t be surprised if we switched formations at some point in the match. Let the experiment continue. But the boys need to show that they have been playing together for quite a while. Martz101: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:47am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Martz101: I thought he did well but overly impressed no I was not , for national team selection I expect more. He scored but I looked at his over all play in the match as well. I was impressed by the sub that came on and showed impressive composure and vision to score after darting round three players to score. One match doesn't make a player. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:48am On Jun 01, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: no mind that man, only arsenal youth team can boast of 8 or 10 innit boys |
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