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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:26am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Joebie: I am unreasonable to some I see Ogu, with his lack of mobility, slow recovery and snail pace as a liability in fast paced match. Even his passion range us far from excellent his way too PREDICTABLE. You need unpredictable inventiveness through the productive use of skill, vision and flair in midfield to be dominate and beat your opponent. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:27am On Jun 01, 2018 |
komekn: You dey mind the guy? He lies too much. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:27am On Jun 01, 2018 |
You have a point. But when those kind of fullbacks are lacking in the team...football has evolved but if you don’t have the right chemistry of players some formations won’t work. Why do u think Iwobi has been effective so far in SE colors? Martz101: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 11:28am On Jun 01, 2018 |
komekn: K. Nwakali is not a one match player. FYI, he has been a constant performer in the Nigerian Jersey, thats why he is seen as a special talent to us. We are used to him because he is closer to us, he grew up here, his early teenage years were all for our underage teams in which he performed excellently well and he has been point blank outstanding among all his peers from homegrown Nigeria. You are measuring him with European football standards but we are measuring him with our own local standard. He was molded from a young teen and exported to Europe after excelling here. Right now in Europe, he is not performing because reason being that like all other previous examples of homegrown Nigerian players who will have to re-learn football basics, adapt to new food, weather, culture, and lifestyle. Inorder words he has to start all over again. The good thing is, he has age on his side as he is currently 19. And he will surely excel at "his" time Now before you start your lengthy preaching about how at 19 he should be tearing apart all leagues, listen and listen good. Except for Pele, Messi, and Maybe Ronaldo De lima,... No player that ever played on planet earth had an excellent, world class, successful, and illustrious career from 18- 30 years stretch. At some point in time players struggle, even Messi was MOTM at u17 and u20 but he was relatively unknown at age 20. He sat out on the bench studying from Ronaldinho and Eto at Barcelona and studied under Crespo and co in the Argentine squad to the 2006 world cup. Honestly you have to cut the boy some slack because the boy deserves every nurture he gets from us because he is our golden boy. His skills and ability are not in doubt because he performs every time he puts on our Jersey. He will mature, and begin to perform at his clubside soon, its just a matter of time. On a final note, You should really be ashamed comparing these your foreign born Nigerian origin players with those who are from home here who comes to England after crossing seven sees and seven mountains only to be measured on the same wavelength with those that are born and bred there. Compared to those that learned football right from their childhood in the UK yet they can't seem to succeed within their mates. These your foreign born are used to the weather, food, culture, lifestyle and football basics yet they are not tearing apart the Epl.. NO!!.. They are in the Championship and League 1 struggling. They are looking for cheap landing by fighting for spots in the SE inorder to boost their failed career. If football was so easy, how come they can't succeed in it after having so many advantages.? ![]() Look at Aina, there was nothing that wasn't said here by you guys when you were marketing him to NFF, look at how ordinary his play is. Your lame defense?... That he is been played at of position. Let me tell you, in Lagos state alone, i can show you 5 right footed players that will perfectly play our left back far better than this shabby performance displayed by Aina. Go to Calaba, Awka ibom, Delta, or Jos and you will see right-footers who will comfortably put aina on the bench, the only thing stopping them is the big word "Opportunity". You have been asked severally to provide an answer why a lad who is not in the England squared currently training with the first team but you seem to be evading the question. Was it on merit that he was chosen?.. Is he tearing apart the EPL currently? Will you say that when Jack Wilshire was England golden boy or he was the best then?... Even at his best then can you say that he was better than this present K. Nwakali? Atleast k. Nwakali proved himself at the u17 cadet worldwide level, can the same be said of Wilshire then? Someone that wenger took straight from Academy and gave him the preferential treatment. The big question is where is Wilshire today?..... Bros,.. There is a time for everything. The career life span of most players is 12 years professionally. Within this period, they don't shine all through, some shine early and fizzle out latter. Many others shine in the middle of their career ie Mo sallah. Some others are late bloomers ie Didier Drogba. Its just a microscopic few that have the luxury of shinning all through their career ie Pele, Messi and Ronaldo. So why won't you go easy on K. Nwakali? Is he the reason why Ovie, Ebere, Josh Onoma are not being invited?... Is he the reason why they have not switched allegiance?... Don't they have agents?.. If others are paying bribe, don't they have the money to pay bribe too?... ![]() No wonder they are waiting for Buhari to send a contigent to them to switch allegiance and hustle their way into the SE.... SMH!!!.. They go wait tire... They never ready.. They go grow old with white bia bia... Dem never see anything. Make dem the wait o!... Tell them make they wait well well... Let them not worry... When we get an angel to rule Nigeria, and all our corruption issues are over then we would send a 40 man delegation plus a red carpet and a host of dancers over to convince them to play for us. But before then,... Allow us to nurture and give our preferential treatment to our homegrown local breed talent in peace..! Rubbish ![]() 16 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:30am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Martz101:Let's keep on watching |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:30am On Jun 01, 2018 |
komekn: SIMPLE AND SHORT. GBAM |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 11:30am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Mujtahida: Jack of all trades and master of none So they said... Not me ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:33am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Sir, we are not even playing England at the group stage. Ogu brings excellent cover to the CBs. He also can give you options in terms of long range shots and popping up to make headers. He is calm and an efficient player. Doesn’t do more than is necessary. His excellent positioning makes up for his lack of pace. komekn: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:34am On Jun 01, 2018 |
tbaba1234: Joel Obi is a top quality no doubt and if we go by the theory of the two faced double standard fellows, Ogu should be dropped because he is playing in an obsure league lower than Seria A. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:37am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Martz101: Onazi is an important member of the super eagles and he played well in the qualifiers no doubt. Onazi has a deep in form,are you going to compare the congo game to the world cup? i dont want to bring some games which onazi didnt pass accurate,seems you are only looking at the congo game then no problem about that,i dont know how you see the congo game,but the congo game i watch was irritating,wont say more than this for now because at the 2018 world cup onazi is a sure starter alondside mikel and ndidi. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:39am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Icon4s:Thank God you said professional. Professional no be machine. Na flesh and blood. Professionals get tired and wane as the game progresses. So if you be coach and your player don tire you no go sub am. You will say to yourself 'let him play jare, na professional him be'. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:40am On Jun 01, 2018 |
forgiveness: Birds of the same feathers flocks together. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:43am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Oasis007:Joebie said it well- 'I'm more concerned with our bench as much as I am concerned with our starting eleven' If Shehu starts you have confidence that Ebuehi is on the bench. If Ebuehi starts, you have confidence that Shehu is on the bench. Remove Mikel and enjoy craw craw football because nobody to even put there to offer even the faintest glimmer of creativity. 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:43am On Jun 01, 2018 |
AbuMikey: Really? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:45am On Jun 01, 2018 |
komekn: The innit boys of Nigerian origin have a far better chance of joining quality English academies than Nigerian youth internationals. Gerrit? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 11:47am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Mujtahida:normal normal, Etebo is supposed to be on the list of players to drop. How can anybody say Ogu may be dropped and then certify Etebo. What has Etebo done to avoid getting dropped? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:48am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Martz101:Rohr is confused on Etebo. I don't blame him. Etebo himself is confused. Na im confusion dey confuse Rohr. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:49am On Jun 01, 2018 |
KK50: Hahahahahaha! Very funny dude. ![]() We are all in the same boat now. Hope the coach picks the best. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 11:50am On Jun 01, 2018 |
forgiveness:Na only you and your brother komekn dey rank league. The rest of us ni send league. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 11:50am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Oasis007: so what you are trying to say is we should keep one of our other creative player on the bench incase the first get tired or injured. Just like keeping De bruyne on the bench just incase hazard get injured. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:52am On Jun 01, 2018 |
If Simon is declared unfit. Who will play the wings if Etebo is dropped? Iwobi and Victor Moses. If one is ineligible to play a match, who will deputy for the ones playing? ![]() Na wa ooooooo. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:55am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Mujtahida: You will now keep Iwobi on the bench dey wait make Mikel tire. What if Mikel doesn't get tired, Iwobi will not play in Russia? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:55am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Certitude: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Renter ghost!? ![]() Speak for yaself or dey deceive yaself. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Seun360(m): 11:56am On Jun 01, 2018 |
Thread filled with Beer Parlour Analyst. 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:59am On Jun 01, 2018 |
safarigirl:Better make dem drop am joor. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 11:59am On Jun 01, 2018 |
forgiveness:etebo is a winger? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 12:02pm On Jun 01, 2018 |
forgiveness:you see you have clamor for some players and they are in the team now yet you are not satisfy, is it only when they invite all the players that you have clamor before you will be satisfy? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 12:02pm On Jun 01, 2018 |
komekn: you have to add the German born, the holland and Spanish born to the innit boys you stated that it's easier for naija born player to get into an Europe club academy than foreign born |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 12:02pm On Jun 01, 2018 |
Martz101: Thanks for reminding me Hazard and De Bruyne play the same Position on the Pitch. Sometimes I do find it baffling the kinda style of your Arguments. How many Times Dudes would say Mikel and VicMo are the Heartbeats of the Eagles?! In fact they are the Wings of the Eagle according to some Folks. Do you know..... why cos the Team lacks creativity without them. Now ask yourself, why the Team lacks creativity despite the presence of Iwobi in the Team?! The Answer is as clear as Daybreak, coz he's wrongly used on the Pitch. What's Etebo doing in the Hole?! Is he a Playmaker, Creator or what?! Why wasting Iwobi on the Wing when you know he's less productive there and can easily fade off in the Position?! I've said it before, Iwobi played not as a Winger at Arsenal; don't be fooled by the Lineup, rather pay Attention to it's Interpretations on the Pitch. Iwobi play as an AM with freedom to roam and swap Position(s) with other AMs. I don't know why simple Arithmetic does turn to further Maths most time on this Forum. I made a Point, if you have a contrary view, tackle it with verifiable Stats and let's engaged in a healthy Debate instead of getting emotional and ending up being sentimental. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 12:02pm On Jun 01, 2018 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:04pm On Jun 01, 2018 |
Icon4s:If Mikel can sustain his energy, fine but in case he doesn't nko? How will the midfield cope when you know from experience how it has played out over five matches without Mikel in the middle. It can cut both ways. That's why it requires tactical thinking not that it is taken for granted that Iwobi must start and must play from the wings. We are even agreed that Iwobi can play from the wings inspite of our realisation that he's not been quite effective. But it seems to me that you are not even ready to look at him in the middle (when Mikel is there cos Mikel will not get tired and will never get tired). You seem to make it sound like it's forbidden, like it's a taboo. Under no condition do you want to see Iwobi in the middle but thank God the last friendly vindicated most of us here. Roh is thinking to see Iwobi from the middle! We have all decried our midfield collapse (in some matches it's not even collapse, cos from the beginning the midfield disappears fiam) yet to use Iwobi there under any condition is like sacrilege. I don't understand. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 12:12pm On Jun 01, 2018 |
Mujtahida: Do we really have a Plan B at all?! Is Mikel a Machine?! Even Machine gets breakdown sometimes. You can't keep playing for Mikel 90mins in every Match without him getting fatigued. Mikel can be subbed for Iwobi, probably in the 75th Minute upward. Iwobi and Co are young, they are the Future of the Eagles for God's sake. Does he get the Pace to utilize a counter-attack Move?! Why on the Wing? Why not in the middle as the Team's Joker?! |
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