adefolakol:



If Jesus died for your sins and promised salvation, does that means all Christians are not sinners and all will enter paradise?

jolyment:



You have not answered my question.

Gbemishile1:


[s]Muslims all praying towards the same point is
traditionally considered to symbolize the unity
of the Ummah (Arabic: ﺔـَّﻣُﺍ, the community Muslims worldwide), under the Sharī‘ah (Arabic: ﺔـَﻌـْﻳِﺮـَﺷ, Law of God).


“We have certainly seen the turning of your
face, [O Muhammad], toward the heaven, and
We will surely turn you to a qiblah with which
you will be pleased. So turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram. And wherever you[believers] are, turn your faces toward it [in prayer]. Indeed, those who have been given the Scripture well know that it is the truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do.” Surah Al-Baqarah [2:144]

now will you answer my question
why u have an statue of jesus you guys have never seen before in your churches and why you direct your prayers to it?
If you guys dont 'worship' it or give it 'worth' as representing christ,why not ask your self a question-what would be your reaction if i were to hold the statue and break its head or i toss it in the trash?
I am very sure you would react in a negative way,cus you give that statue a value as representing something-jesus.[/s]

Maamin:


Stop fooling yourself nobody worships any statue or images in churches.

What will you do if someone calls Muhammed a paedophile before your face as well? Won't you ask for their head? Doesn't that signifies that you worship and fight for your prophet? Because he is your god hun?

You face a kaaba containing a black stone from God knows where, and you call that worshipping God? What image do you make up in your mind while praying? Image of a black stone in a cube hun?

You don't get it, Islam is 21century repackaged idolatry.

Ken4Christ:


Jesus is alive more so because he lives in me right now. I am a living testimony that he lives.

Mohammed didn't promise you salvation but yet, you believe him. He even said he wasn't sure of his destiny, yet you still follow.

Ken4Christ:


You become a Christian the very moment you accept Jesus as your Lord and person Saviour. All believers in Christ are declared righteous. That doesn't mean you will not make mistakes. That's why God also made provisions for our mistakes. The very moment you ask for forgiveness, he will forgive you and cleanse you from all unrighteousness.

But if you deliberately choose to walk in sin, you will not make heaven.

Niyi53:



I tell you truly that JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH IS LONG DEAD. his grave is at Srinagar Kashmir!!
you have been made to have the belief that he is alive and you have false evidence for it. No testimony!

Muhammad definitely promised salvation to those who truly believe in him. and his spiritual blessings still continues till today. but Jesus's spiritual blessings has ended!

You only speaking out of hatred for Islam. you gat no evidence for all your allegations against Islam!

adefolakol:


Answer my questions Ken4Christ

Gbemishile1:

if u tell me muhammed is a pedophile,its based on his life and not as a result of the image of him that was created.i can fight you for insulting my prophet or tell you why he married a girl at that age and all.its all based on the story of the life that he lived
But
if i walk into a church and carry the statue of jesus and break its head.you will fight me based on what?
Cus of the perception that i have insulted your 'jesus' by destroying its 'statue'.
Face the truth and let it set you free

[s]the stone or place of worship wasnt founded by muhammed but was placed there by abraham and his son ismael.[/s]

There was once a mighty king who was soo loved by his people.the king was very kind to his people.the day the king died,the whole village was thrown int serious mourning.the people were crying uncontrollably.then a 'man' appeared to the people and asked why they were crying,and the people told him their king died.the 'man' was moved by the way these people were crying so he told them to build a statue of the king so that the people will feel the presence of their king.the people were so happy that they started building the statue immediately in the like image of their king.years after this man went back to that same city and saw the statue with people crowded around it so he asked who the person was and the people replied that it was thier very kind king who passed away.
The 'man' told the people that since the man was a very kind man he must be in heaven close to God 'why not beg your late king to intercede on your behalf so that God will answer your prayers'.the people thought it was a goood idea,so they started bringing offerings,with the mindset that the statue(thier late king) will beg God on their behalf and answer their prayers.they saw the statue as a means of communicating with God and they started giving worth to it.they would kneel in front of the statued and beg the king to beg God to answer their prayers
you know who the 'man' was?-shaitan(devil)
idolators(sango,obatala worshippers) believe there is one true God,they only use those statues that you see as a means of communicating woth God.
So tell me what is the difference in your religion and theirs?

Niyi53:



I tell you truly that JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH IS LONG DEAD. his grave is at Srinagar Kashmir!!
you have been made to have the belief that he is alive and you have false evidence for it. No testimony!

Muhammad definitely promised salvation to those who truly believe in him. and his spiritual blessings still continues till today. but Jesus's spiritual blessings has ended!

You only speaking out of hatred for Islam. you gat no evidence for all your allegations against Islam!

Maamin:


Keep quiet jor!

The same way you have no evidence for all your allegation against Christianity.

Didn't your quran says Allah raised Jesus to himself without him passing through death?

Now all of a sudden his grave is in kashmir. Which one should we believe?

Your delusion is cosmic.

Maamin:


Keep quiet jor!

The same way you have no evidence for all your allegation against Christianity.

Didn't your quran says Allah raised Jesus to himself without him passing through death?

Now all of a sudden his grave is in kashmir. Which one should we believe?

Maamin post=68099106:


Keep quiet jor!

The same way you have no evidence for all your allegation against Christianity.

Didn't your quran says Allah raised Jesus to himself without him passing through death?

Now all of a sudden his grave is in kashmir. Which one should we believe?

Your delusion is cosmic.

Your delusion is cosmic.

Ken4Christ:


Please, which question?

Maamin:


Keep quiet jor!

The same way you have no evidence for all your allegation against Christianity.

Didn't your quran says Allah raised Jesus to himself without him passing through death?

Now all of a sudden his grave is in kashmir. Which one should we believe?

Your delusion is cosmic.

It is only a gullible Muslim that will belive that Allah raised Jesus to himself during trouble cos Allah is more powerful than the jews.

Qur'an has confirmed that all Prophets of Allah have passed away

وَمَا مُحَمَّدٌ إِلَّا رَسُولٌ قَدْ خَلَتْ مِنْ قَبْلِهِ الرُّسُلُ ۚ أَفَإِنْ مَاتَ أَوْ قُتِلَ انْقَلَبْتُمْ عَلَىٰ أَعْقَابِكُمْ ۚ وَمَنْ يَنْقَلِبْ عَلَىٰ عَقِبَيْهِ فَلَنْ يَضُرَّ اللَّهَ شَيْئًا ۗ وَسَيَجْزِي اللَّهُ الشَّاكِرِينَ
And Muhammad is only a Messenger. Verily, all Messengers have passed away before him. If then he die or be slain, will you turn back on your heels? And he who turns back on his heels shall not harm Allah at all. And Allah will certainly reward the grateful. (Chapter 3 verse 143)

Allah has made it extremely clear, that all Prophets before the Holy Prophet Muhammadsaw have passed away.

[s]So you have no point bro. Exalt to himself is only a spiritual nearness bro.[/s]

Back to your own belief...

If you are ready to learn without abusing cos I can see your resposnes starts with abusive statement, I'll educate more on Christianity you claim to practice. I'll bring evidences from the bible that Jesus didn't die on cross and educate you more on Gnectoctism which Paul practiced secretly and successfully transferred it to Christianity doctrine.


Lot of proofs....waiting for your responses....

adefolakol:



Niyi gave you quotes bro...you decided to neglect it


The sign of Jonah and some evidences

adefolakol:


I still wonder if it was the real Jesus that uttered that this or his spirit.
"It is written in the Gospel of Mark that after coming out of the sepulchre, Jesus was seen on the road to Galilee, and in due course he met the eleven disciples who were at their meal; he showed them his hands and feet which bore wounds; they thought that he was perhaps a spirit. Then he said to them: ‘It is I myself; touch me and see for a spirit has no flesh and bones as I have.’ Then he took a piece of broiled fish, and of an honeycomb and ate it before them. See Mark
16:14 and Luke 24:39-42.

Can holy spirit or a dead man eat?

adefolakol:


And your own bible says he is dead abi?

madridguy:
We are with Prophet Issa A.S " Jesus Christ " anyday anytime. We believe him as a prophet and also messenger of Allah SWT.

adefolakol:


I still wonder if it was the real Jesus that uttered that this or his spirit.
"It is written in the Gospel of Mark that after coming out of the sepulchre, Jesus was seen on the road to Galilee, and in due course he met the eleven disciples who were at their meal; he showed them his hands and feet which bore wounds; they thought that he was perhaps a spirit. Then he said to them: ‘It is I myself; touch me and see for a spirit has no flesh and bones as I have.’ Then he took a piece of broiled fish, and of an honeycomb and ate it before them. See Mark
16:14 and Luke 24:39-42.

Can holy spirit or a dead man eat?

Maamin:


The same way you kill and maim for your Allah right? Why are you not fighting people painting images of Isah( Jesus) in churches and worshipping it or is Isah(Jesus) no longer your prophet and one of Allah's messenger?

Abraham did not found any black stone or build any kaaba.

Your story reflect Islam perfectly.

Direct the last question of your comment to yourself. It should read thus " what is the difference in my religion and theirs?"


Remind me to take you serious when you become at least less hypocritical.

Maamin:


Sign of Jonah?

Was it suppose to follow exact sequence? Because if you say so then your assertions are flawed already.

Was Jesus in the belly of the fish?

Did Jonah preached to anyone in the belly of the fish?

Did Jonah got the key of hell and hades?

Ken4Christ:


Jesus resurrected with a glorious immortal body that is not sustained by blood but by the power of the Holy Spirit. Hence, he is alive not as a spirit but as a living being that has flesh and bones and not flesh and blood.

As such, he could eat. Angels also eat. So, there is nothing absolutely strange with that. In heaven, there will be food. So, we will also eat. Does this answer your question?

Maamin:
adefolakol



Lies! Sura 4:157-158 says otherwise



Yes all prophet of your Allah alone


These verses says otherwise or is it another contradiction in your Holy book?

The Noble Quran 4:157

وَقَوْلِهِمْ إِنَّا قَتَلْنَا ٱلْمَسِيحَ عِيسَى ٱبْنَ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولَ ٱللَّهِ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَٰكِن شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ ۚ وَإِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ ٱخْتَلَفُوا۟ فِيهِ لَفِى شَكٍّ مِّنْهُ ۚ مَا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ إِلَّا ٱتِّبَاعَ ٱلظَّنِّ ۚ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ يَقِينًۢا

Waqawlihim inna qatalna almaseeha AAeesa ibna maryama rasoola Allahi wama qataloohu wama salaboohu walakin shubbiha lahum wainna allatheena ikhtalafoo feehi lafee shakkin minhu ma lahum bihi min AAilmin illa ittibaAAa alththanni wama qataloohu yaqeenan

And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)]:

The Noble Quran 4:158

بَل رَّفَعَهُ ٱللَّهُ إِلَيْهِ ۚ وَكَانَ ٱللَّهُ عَزِيزًا حَكِيمًا

Bal rafaAAahu Allahu ilayhi wakana Allahu AAazeezan hakeeman

But Allah raised him ['Iesa (Jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And Allah is Ever All-Powerful, All-Wise.



But sura 4:158 says otherwise



Spiritual nearness indeed . You must be thinking that you are talking to a baby in ile kewu.



Spill the lies let me refute them

Gbemishile1:

ur version of issah is different from ours
our issah(jesus) wasnt disgraced by being crucified along with two thieves
our issah did not die and resurrect the third day.
Qur’an 3: 84 َ
ﻢﻴِﻫﺍَﺮْﺑِﺇ ﻰَﻠَﻋ َﻝِﺰْﻧُﺃ ﺎَﻣَﻭ ﺎَﻨْﻴَﻠَﻋ َﻝِﺰْﻧُﺃ ﺎَﻣَﻭ ِﻪَّﻠﻟﺎِﺑ ﺎَّﻨَﻣَﺁ ْﻞُﻗ َﻲِﺗﻭُﺃ ﺎَﻣَﻭ ِﻁﺎَﺒْﺳَﺄْﻟﺍَﻭ َﺏﻮُﻘْﻌَﻳَﻭ َﻕﺎَﺤْﺳِﺇَﻭ َﻞﻴِﻋﺎَﻤْﺳِﺇَﻭ ِّﺏَﺭ ْﻦِﻣ َﻥﻮُّﻴِﺒَّﻨﻟﺍَﻭ ﻰَﺴﻴِﻋَﻭ ﻰَﺳﻮُﻣ ْﻢِﻫ ٍﺪَﺣَﺃ َﻦْﻴَﺑ ُﻕِّﺮَﻔُﻧ ﺎَﻟ ْﻦِﻣ ْﻢُﻫ َﻥﻮُﻤِﻠْﺴُﻣ ُﻪَﻟ ُﻦْﺤَﻧَﻭ “Say: ’We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam).’”
the only problem is the bible and the life of jesus has 'changed' over time-new testament,old testament,king james version etc.
you should ask your pastor why he has an image of a person he has never seen before in his church.
even the bible gave no description of the appearance of jesus.
When u get a response,then we can talk

Gbemishile1:

ur version of issah is different from ours
our issah(jesus) wasnt disgraced by being crucified along with two thieves
our issah did not die and resurrect the third day.
Qur’an 3: 84 َ
ﻢﻴِﻫﺍَﺮْﺑِﺇ ﻰَﻠَﻋ َﻝِﺰْﻧُﺃ ﺎَﻣَﻭ ﺎَﻨْﻴَﻠَﻋ َﻝِﺰْﻧُﺃ ﺎَﻣَﻭ ِﻪَّﻠﻟﺎِﺑ ﺎَّﻨَﻣَﺁ ْﻞُﻗ َﻲِﺗﻭُﺃ ﺎَﻣَﻭ ِﻁﺎَﺒْﺳَﺄْﻟﺍَﻭ َﺏﻮُﻘْﻌَﻳَﻭ َﻕﺎَﺤْﺳِﺇَﻭ َﻞﻴِﻋﺎَﻤْﺳِﺇَﻭ ِّﺏَﺭ ْﻦِﻣ َﻥﻮُّﻴِﺒَّﻨﻟﺍَﻭ ﻰَﺴﻴِﻋَﻭ ﻰَﺳﻮُﻣ ْﻢِﻫ ٍﺪَﺣَﺃ َﻦْﻴَﺑ ُﻕِّﺮَﻔُﻧ ﺎَﻟ ْﻦِﻣ ْﻢُﻫ َﻥﻮُﻤِﻠْﺴُﻣ ُﻪَﻟ ُﻦْﺤَﻧَﻭ “Say: ’We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam).’”
the only problem is the bible and the life of jesus has 'changed' over time-new testament,old testament,king james version etc.
you should ask your pastor why he has an image of a person he has never seen before in his church.
even the bible gave no description of the appearance of jesus.
When u get a response,then we can talk

adefolakol:



Oh this is getting sweet....what similarities do they have then? If it's not related to Jonah.

adefolakol:



Lol...You are really good at copy and paste, Prophet Idris too was raised don't forget. And if God raised Jesus to himself, where is God bro?

Maamin:


You are not being truthful..i did not say the sign is not related to Jonah but you on the other hand is looking for the sign of Jesus to play exactly in the same sequence to that of Jonah and that was why I asked you these following questions

Was it suppose to follow exact sequence? Because if you say so then your assertions are flawed already.

Was Jesus in h preached to anyone in the belly of the fish?

Did Jonah got the key of hell and hades?

Since you want to build your argument on the fact that Jonah was not dead in the belly of the fish, so probably Jesus was never dead


So *probably* jesus was never dead too....you should answer that bro...

Maamin:


Copy and paste? Was it not the same way you copied and pasted the Qur’anic chapter I did too? Why are you already uneasy? Is it not from the same noble quran?

Hypocrisy I guess.

Your Qur’an says Allah raised Jesus to himself (body and soul) so he didn't have to be killed which was against another verse you brought up that says the opposite. Deal with that contradiction from your quran!

adefolakol:


Lol....Evidence from bible that Angels eat food? And my question was was it Jesus physical body that ate the food or his spirit simple question (Yes or No)