CodeTemplar:
Are you this dumb? How can you use 2013 figure to divide 2018 allocation and get what govt spends on each student in 2018?

How old are you?

you are the slowpoke. ask anyone in that passed through the four walls of a university. the number of students increase slightly year after year. I don't expect you to know that since you are just one mumu illiterate trying hard to form intellectual.

so if you need a figure for a research you don't know you are meant to pick the latest verifiable figure? since I couldn't find a verifiable claim later than 2013 I picked the one for 2013. no one said i'm hundred percent right in my estimate of what the government spends on each student in 2018 so shift and find something to do instead of looking for dumb loopholes.

Jaideyone:
you are the slowpoke. ask anyone in that passed through the four walls of a university. the number of students increase slightly year after year. I don't expect you to know that since you are just one mumu illiterate trying hard to form intellectual.

so if you need a figure for a research you don't know you are meant to pick the latest verifiable figure? since I couldn't find a verifiable claim later than 2013 I picked the one for 2013. no one said i'm hundred percent right in my estimate of what the government spends on each student in 2018 so shift and find something to do instead of looking for dumb loopholes.

HigherEd, Come and see this irredeemable arrogant ignoramus who thinks has a more accurate figure of UNILAG population than the UNILAG VC. Where do these kind of creature emanate from? kai... you are extremely dull and arrogant.

CodeTemplar:
HigherEd, Come and see this irredeemable arrogant ignoramus who thinks has a more accurate figure of UNILAG population than the UNILAG VC. Where do these kind of creature emanate from? kai... you are extremely dull and arrogant.

if there is anyone that is dull and arrogant it is you. go to the unilag website and see where it was stated that the population has exceeded 40k. the website home page which is the primary source of that info has probably not been updated in over a decade yet you want to take it that the population is that round figure of 40,000 instead of a figure of 44,602 for undergraduates and 12,581 for post graduates (as at 2013) which seems more like an accurate census figure. yet you are trying too hard to parade yourself as an intellectual? now who's the dull one now?

let me go the extra mile for you Mr pseudo intellectual. the 2013 figure is from unilag itself!!!

go to the wikipedia page and click on the reference "1" in front of that figure and it takes you to the unilag website to download a file "university of Lagos pocket statistics.pdf" which was retrieved from the school website itself as at 2016. check the attached pictures. make sure you click the reference "1" and "2" in from of the figures to take you to the website.

how could any sane mind believe the round figure of 40k against the accurate census data that was available on the website?

now I ask again who's the dull one?


btw college of medicine (MBBS, BDS, physiology, biochemistry, pharmacology, radiography, pharmacology, nursing, MLS, etc) and faculty of pharmacy alone has more than 5000 Undergrad and PG students. My public health PG class a few years back had over 100 students for one single PT program so how could anyone expect the population of the whole school not to exceed 40k and be even higher than the 57k as at this 2018?

pls visit the wikipedia page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Lagos and follow the references "1" and "2" to the unilag website before you come back and argue again

brain dead illiterate that feels he knows more than someone that spent close to 3decades living around and inside the school itself. I was 4 when my dad got his lecturing job here. i'm 29 right now. I did both my undergrad and PG here so if you are going to call me dull over something I have good knowledge of be 101% sure you are right

brainless illiterate

CodeTemplar:
HigherEd, Come and see this irredeemable arrogant ignoramus who thinks has a more accurate figure of UNILAG population than the UNILAG VC. Where do these kind of creature emanate from? kai... you are extremely dull and arrogant.

see attached pictures illiterate

next time you call me dull I'll chew you raw

Jaideyone:
if there is anyone that is dull and arrogant it is you. go to the unilag website and see where it was stated that the population has exceeded 40k. the website home page which is the primary source of that info has probably not been updated in over a decade yet you want to take it that the population is that round figure of 40,000 instead of a figure of 44,602 for undergraduates and 12,581 for post graduates (as at 2013) which seems more like an accurate census figure. yet you are trying too hard to parade yourself as an intellectual? now who's the dull one now?

let me go the extra mile for you Mr pseudo intellectual. the 2013 figure is from unilag itself!!!

go to the wikipedia page and click on the reference "1" in front of that figure and it takes you to the unilag website to download a file "university of Lagos pocket statistics.pdf" which was retrieved from the school website itself as at 2016. check the attached pictures. make sure you click the reference "1" and "2" in from of the figures to take you to the website.

how could any sane mind believe the round figure of 40k against the accurate census data that was available on the website?

now I ask again who's the dull one?


btw college of medicine (MBBS, BDS, physiology, biochemistry, pharmacology, radiography, pharmacology, nursing, MLS, etc) and faculty of pharmacy alone has more than 5000 Undergrad and PG students. My public health PG class a few years back had over 100 students for one single PT program so how could anyone expect the population of the whole school not to exceed 40k and be even higher than the 57k as at this 2018?

pls visit the wikipedia page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Lagos and follow the references "1" and "2" to the unilag website before you come back and argue again

brain dead illiterate that feels he knows more than someone that spent close to 3decades living around and inside the school itself. I was 4 when my dad got his lecturing job here. i'm 29 right now. I did both my undergrad and PG here so if you are going to call me dull over something I have good knowledge of be 101% sure you are right

brainless illiterate

29 yes old fo,ol keep arguing against the words of the man who is in position to give the most recent and accurate figure. I gave you links to a 2018 source quoting the VC. So you think in a gathering where potential sponsors are seated the UNILAG VC will quote outdated figure and make wrong projections of financial implication of running Unilag to the whole world. Even wikipedia and Unilag site administrator get their figures indirectly from the VCs speech and you are here trying to argue stupidly against it.

I think onlookers have their own brain to decide who is the dunce between you and I.

FYI I passed that mark years ago.

CodeTemplar:
29 yes old fo,ol keep arguing against the words of the man who is in position to give the most recent and accurate figure. I gave you links to a 2018 source quoting the VC. So you think in a gathering where potential sponsors are seated the UNILAG VC will quote outdated figure and make wrong projections of financial implication of running Unilag to the whole world. Even wikipedia and Unilag site administrator get their figures from the VCs speech and you are here trying to argue stupidly against it.

I think onlookers have their own brain to decide who is the dunce between you and I.

FYI I passed that mark years ago.

you are the fool for still disputing figures that came from the official university website under a document titled "University of Lagos pocket statistics".

you want to believe the VCs round figure of 40k but you call me a fool for believing something that seems more like an accurate census figure that said there are 45k undergrads and 12k PG students from the OFFICIAL WEBSITE!!!
You must think we all have room temperature IQ like you . knock yourself out i'm leaving the thread for you

Jaideyone:
you are the fool for still disputing figures that came from the official university website under a document titled "University of Lagos pocket statistics".

you want to believe the VCs round figure of 40k but you call me a fool for believing something that seems more like an accurate census figure that said there are 45k undergrads and 12k PG students from the OFFICIAL WEBSITE!!!
You must think we all have room temperature IQ like you . knock yourself out i'm leaving the thread for you

So the VC also rounded off equivalent of 4,000 students times N1.2m which is N4.8Bn annually when projecting what it would take to effectively run Unilag to the whole world. I salute your stupidity. Keep it up.

CodeTemplar:
So the VC also rounded off equivalent of 4000 students times N1.2m which is N4.8Bn annually when projecting what it would take to effectively run Unilag to the whole world. I salute your stupidity. Keep it up.

read this your post, look in a mirror and ask yourself if it makes sense

Jaideyone:
read this your post, look in a mirror and ask yourself if it makes sense

Lol . . . which part is beyond your comprehension?

Jaideyone:
see attached pictures illiterate

next time you call me dull I'll chew you raw

CodeTemplar is right, the first gen federal universities receive about 11 billion in wage bill grants, 1 billion in cap grants and about 2 billion in Tetfund interventions. Making about 13 billion in total.

HigherEd:

CodeTemplar is right, the first gen federal universities receive about 11 billion in wage bill grants, 1 billion in cap grants and about 2 billion in Tetfund interventions. Making about 13 billion in total.

The dude is trying to justify the comatose uni and allocation wastage there.

HigherEd:

CodeTemplar is right, the first gen federal universities receive about 11 billion in wage bill grants, 1 billion in cap grants and about 2 billion in Tetfund interventions. Making about 13 billion in total.

read detailed explanation of what I said!!!

I said unilag gets max of 2b for capital projects. now you even justified my claims and brought the 2b I said would be the maximum that can be spared for capital projects down to 1b.
he was talking as if the whole 11b will go into capital projects. that was the origin of the argument.

CodeTemplar:
The dude is trying to justify the comatose uni and allocation wastage there.

were you blind where I stated in my post that the money goes into salary? unilag gets less than 2b yearly for infrastructure!!! which includes new buildings and renovation of old ones. he even put the figure lower to 1b.

so how's that different from what I said? you ignorantly inferred that unilag should have several billions to spend on infrastructures out of the 11b which a big lie as salaries alone will take more than half of 11b. you are the one with comprehension issues!!!

Jaideyone:
unilag had 57k as at 2013. note that the number increases gradually each year so 2018 is definitely more

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Lagos

on a budget of 11b yearly with my analysis up there staff salaries alone will take at least 4b yearly!!!

now tell me the school won't be lucky to to have 2b left after other expenses!!!

cc higherED

CodeTemplar:
Most of those unis get 11bn Naira annually and have little to show for it.

Another school getting less than 6 billon Naira is building stadiums and have good infrastructure.

cc higherED

this is where I quoted him and told him unilag has never been fortunate to have more than 2b for infrastructure in a single year for both main campus and college of medicine.

Jaideyone:
read detailed explanation of what I said!!!

I said unilag gets max of 2b for capital projects. now you even justified my claims and brought the 2b I said would be the maximum that can be spared for capital projects down to 1b.
he was talking as if the whole 11b will go into capital projects. that was the origin of the argument.

Are you aware most of the CU hostels cost approx N350m to build and most were built between 2001 and 2005. Even at N2b Unilag has no bloody excuse.

I heard the CU stadium was built with less than a billion.
Now think about what even N1bn/year could have achieved for UNILAG talk less of your wuruwuru N2Bn you negotiated through many post.

Jaideyone:
cc higherED

this is where I quoted him and told him unilag has never been fortunate to have more than 2b for infrastructure in a single year for both main campus and college of medicine.

You are still arguing aimlessly. CU built most of those hostels you see with less than N400m, That means Unilag can afford to build equivalent of two of such hostels yearly and still have huge change for equipment like microscopes, PCB machines etc. I pity you. Stay there and be defending wastage in the name 'representing'.

CodeTemplar:
Are you aware most of the CU hostels cost approx N350m to build and most where built between 2001 and 2005. Even at N2b Unilag has no bloody excuse.

I heard the CU stadium was built with less than a billion.
Now think about what even N1bn/year could have achieved for UNILAG talk less of your wuruwuru N2Bn you negotiated through many post.

wururu 2b was an estimate I did from info I got from a member of senate committee first hand and higherED has confirmed that's about what the uni gets for infrastructure yearly. the question is do you know the 2b will also include the cost of maintenance of the old structures?

CU caters for 15k students like I said earlier. unilag caters for 57k (almost 4x).
but you want to enjoy the same quality facilities in unilag with larger population? you think the cost of maintaining class rooms and other infrastructure for 57k students and 15k students will be the same?
the 2b might be enough for CU but it's too small for unilag!!!

what you are saying is similar to saying since Anambra survives on 4b monthly without owing salaries then Lagos should be able to survive on 4b monthly too with 4x the pop of Anambra. does that make sense to you?

CodeTemplar:
You are still arguing aimlessly. CU built most of those hostels you see with less than N400m, That means Unilag can afford to build equivalent of two of such hostels yearly and still have huge change for equipment like microscopes, PCB machines etc. I pity you. Stay there and be defending wastage in the name 'representing'.

btw how many old hostels and classrooms does CU have to maintain with lesser student population?

in unilag alone there is
mariere hostel, Amina, Jaja, scholars hostel, newest hall, moremi, el kanemi, kofo, sodeinde, etc in akoka and OPH, block 1-4 and nursing students hostel in college of medicine.

start by telling me the number of hostels CU has and tell me cost of maintenance will be the same.

then do the same for classrooms.
cos classrooms also get renovated from time to time.

now go ahead and do the same for staff quarters (note that new blocks were built for staffs beside health center with TETFUND). there is High rise block A,B,C and several duplexes and hundreds of flats for staffs both within school and outside school (yes unilag operates off campus staff quarters for its staffs under agreement with landlords of big buildings). I stayed in one of such off-campus staff quarters around ekore bus stop in Oworonshoki for years. the compound had 16 flats and it belonged to the popular Woman that owns majork oil and milk and magnet savings and loans. unilag took control of the building for over ten years to house it's staffs since there was shortage of buildings for staffs within the compound.

where do you think money for maintenance of all these facilities come from?
from that big 2b

Jaideyone:
wururu 2b was an estimate I did from info I got from a member of senate committee first hand and higherED has confirmed that's about what the uni gets for infrastructure yearly. the question is do you know the 2b will also include the cost of maintenance of the old structures?

CU caters for 15k students like I said earlier. unilag caters for 57k (almost 4x).
but you want to enjoy the same quality facilities in unilag with larger population? you think the cost of maintaining class rooms and other infrastructure for 57k students and 15k students will be the same?
the 2b might be enough for CU but it's too small for unilag!!!

what you are saying is similar to saying since Anambra survives on 4b monthly without owing salaries then Lagos should be able to survive on 4b monthly too with 4x the pop of Anambra. does that make sense to you?

Use your brain/imagination more. I don't have to spell it out for you always. If the CU hostels can cost N350m how much will it cost yearly to maintain it? You are still trying to inflate running cost in order to justify the wastage going on in most federal schools.

CodeTemplar:


Use your brain/imagination more. I don't have to spell it out for you always. If the CU hostels can cost N350m how much will it cost yearly to maintain it? You are still trying to inflate running cost in order to justify the wastage going on in most federal schools.

does CU currently have the same number of hostels and other buildings to maintain as unilag? maintaining buildings for 57k people will definitely cost more than maintenance for 15k people. use your brain!!!

Jaideyone:
does CU currently have the same number of hostels and other buildings to maintain as unilag? maintaining buildings for 57k people will definitely cost more than maintenance for 15k people. use your brain!!!

How many hostels has UNILAG got? What's the capacity? Keep arguing to justify wastage. The Stadium this topic focuses on cost N500m. What are they maintaining in Unilag?

You can't say they admit more students every year...they get more applicants every year as the number of secondary school leavers increases...but they can barely maintain their facilities so they cut down the number of students yearly... In 2015 and subsequent years...the VC/DVC at UI released a statement saying they can/could only admit about 3000 students out of over 30k applicants who scored above 200... 3000 is a small number compared to what they'd been admitting in previous years...

So you see there's a posibility that the 40000 stated by the VC of Unilag cover both UG and PG students...

There has really been a decline...

Jaideyone:

^^^

plus in 2015 from the link in that post above unilag matriculated 8600 students and graduated just 5k+ students.

confirm the number of graduates for 2015 here

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/198964-unilag-produces-178-first-class-graduates-20142015-session.html

According to him, out of this number, 5,472 will receive first degrees

for 2014 unilag matriculated 6448 students
and graduated 5k undergraduate students

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/06/unilag-graduates-89-first-class-students/

note that matriculated students are only the undergraduate students. PG students don't matriculate

plus we've not been considering the DLI students o or are they not students too?



cc CodeTemplar
SammieJayh

CodeTemplar:
Stop spamming the forum with irrelevant facts and illogical submissions, between 2013 and now there was an approx. 300% increase in fees. Didn't your excitable brain prompt you that this could have caused a drop in admission level? Or even a delibrate reduction of school population by the management at that?
Keep spamming the thread with irrelevant links and be thinking facts equals sound logic.

hahahahaha you've not been able to find a single link to back up your claims. I made an assumption based on what I know and I went online and got matriculation and graduation figures to back them up, you agree they are facts but you call them irrelevant cos your jaundiced opinion turned out false.


I was on my own in the politics section when you brought me here again yet I give you just one reply filled with facts and you say I'm spamming the forum with irrelevant facts

you are one very confused individual. I've left my facts for the world to see let me go and engage someone with a working brain

Jaideyone:
plus in 2015 from the link in that post above unilag matriculated 8600 students and graduated just 5k+ students.

confirm the number of graduates for 2015 here

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/198964-unilag-produces-178-first-class-graduates-20142015-session.html



for 2014 unilag matriculated 6448 students
and graduated 5k undergraduate students

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/06/unilag-graduates-89-first-class-students/

note that matriculated students are only the undergraduate students. PG students don't matriculate

plus we've not been considering the DLI students o or are they not students too?



cc CodeTemplar
SammieJayh

So how many students were expelled? How many dropped out? How many had extra year? How many?
Boy, use your brain. The VC said 40,000 and you are here sampling incomplete & contextual facts.

CodeTemplar:
Stop spamming the forum with irrelevant facts and illogical submissions, between 2013 and now there was an approx. 300% increase in fees. Didn't your excitable brain prompt you that this could have caused a drop in admission level? Or even a delibrate reduction of school population by the management at that?
Keep spamming the thread with irrelevant links and be thinking facts equals sound logic.

how did fees increase 300% between 2013 and now? you go school?

guy you are funny as phuck. so even if the fees increase you had to jump into conclusion it's because number of students have decreased? Jesus!!!

let me run out of the thread

this is a no brainer!!!

CodeTemplar:
So how many students were expelled? How many dropped out? How many had extra year? How many?
Boy, use your brain. The VC said 40,000 and you are here sampling incomplete & contextual facts.

lol less than 100 students are expelled from unilag yearly. the list is usually pasted all around the classrooms and various departments for the whole world to see.

the school matriculated 8k and graduated 5k.

3/8*100% is 37%. if you passed through the four walls of a school you won't speculate that at least 37% of students will drop out during a four year course


oga I'll ignore your mentions now. you are unbelievably ignorant. if I don't know what I'm saying I won't be giving you links. I would have left the thread jejely.


feel free to display your ignorance on the thread. ignorance is not a crime. have a nice time bro

Jaideyone:
how did fees increase 300% between 2013 and now? you go school?

guy you are funny as phuck. so even if the fees increase you had to jump into conclusion it's because number of students have decreased ? Jesus!!!

let me run out of the thread

this is a no brainer!!!

@the first bold part, use the same goole you have been using to spam the thread to google "unilag fee increase july 2017".
@second bold part, how did I conclude? The Unilag VC did and I quoted him.