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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:27am On Jun 04, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Onazi is obviously refusing to shoulder the major responsibility for his shambolic outing so he is subtly resorting to the silly blame game. Truth is he was our worst player on the day and all his runnings were bloody meaningless. He should own up to his shortcomings and shut the f**k up. Can he do what Mikel does for the team? Can he even deliver like an Ndidi? Even an Etebo or Ogu trumps him now. Onazi should shut it and own up to his failings so that he can get better and show us he is still relevant to the Eagles. Nonsense.

Did you watch the interview? He admitted that he played poorly. He talked about other players not running to cover. He never called any names.

He never mentioned Mikel. That is projection.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:29am On Jun 04, 2018
WC Jersey numbers

1. Ikechukwu Ezenwa
2. Bryan Idowu
3. Elderson Echiejile
4. Wilfred Ndidi
5. William Troost-Ekong
6. Leon Balogun
7. Ahmed Musa
8. Oghenekharo Etebo
9. Odion Ighalo
10. John Obi Mikel
11. Victor Moses
12. Abdullahi Shehu
13. Simeon Nwankwo
14. Kelechi Iheanacho
15. Joel Obi
16. Daniel Akpeyi
17. Ogenyi Onazi
18. Alex Iwobi
19. John Ogu
20. Chidozie Awaziem
21. Tyrone Ebuehi
22. Kenneth Omeruo
23. Francis Uzoho

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:33am On Jun 04, 2018
The People’s MOTM, this 22 year-old Gunner is One to Get Fully Behind
(written on June 3rd)





It is fair to say that Alex Iwobi has his critics among the Arsenal faithful. He was only six weeks old when England beat the mighty Oranje in 1996 (4-1) and that tells you how young he still is. Yet there really are already more than a handful of Gunners who want him sold! They have seen enough, they tell me. Everybody is entitled to have an opinion, of course, but come on: give the boy a chance!!


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44343704


Yesterday, Alex was voted Player of the Match by the fans, and quite rightly so (see link above).

The Super Eagles were played off the pitch by the Three Lions in the first half, but Alex was the only one who dealt well with the impressive press that was applied by the home team. He constantly held on to the ball and made space for himself without it and with it. He then found a fellow player in enough space to pass the ball to regularly, and thus start an attack from beating the press. I was less impressed by Iwobi’s fellow midfielders who often lost the ball when the slightest bit of pressure was applied to them, which then left the defenders exposed time and again.

England scored twice and should have scored more goals as they outclassed Nigeria completely during the first half.
However, Gernot Rohr did a fab job in making tactical changes – three at the back and four substitutions – and getting his team re-focused for the second half, whilst England’s boys clearly felt they had done enough in the first half and/or were unable to respond adequately to Nigeria’s changes.
The Super Eagles scored within two minutes and then their wing-tales were up, the away crowd were behind them even more and the midfield was dominated by the visitors till the end of the game. It was Iwobi who set up the deadly attack with a fine ball to Ighalo from the centre of midfield; the former Watford striker hit the post with his precise diagonal strike and he was unlucky not to score; but the ball bounced back towards the ‘D-area’ and there was Alex to calmly steer it past defenders and keeper to score a fine, Ramseyesque goal.

Alex kept making himself available and linked up the midfield with attack constantly. At the end he tired and he may have picked up a small injury, but Rohr was not going to sub his best player – one of only five players who played the whole game.

With 1.4 key passes per game, 5 assists and three goals in
26 PL games last season, our 22 year young brightest attacking star from our youth ranks is one to get fully behind and believe in. And I cannot wait to see more of him at the Oranje-deprived WC in a couple of weeks time.


**By TotalArsenal.


Source: https://bergkampesque.com/2018/06/03/the-peoples-motm-this-22-year-old-gunner-is-one-to-get-fully-behind/




For the most parts we owned that second half. Many agree with this. Let us not be conservative with the truth. We know we must improve but the truth remains that we indeed owned England in that second half. Enough of the overly conservative talk. We dominated the midfield in that second half for the most parts from beginning to end and the ref even ended the game when we were on the attack with seconds on the clock left before 94 mins. EOD. And Iwobi was definitely our star man at Wembley. Our no.1 top performer on the overall.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:35am On Jun 04, 2018
goldfish80:


Controversial opinion, but honestly speaking Aina doesn't look to me a solid player. Even while he played LB, he never made daring runs that suggests he has it in him to offer something extra. He made a dogs dinner out of the chances given to him.
After the the world cup, he has a big fight to claim either of the fullback roles in the team because certainly, Usman Mohammed will come back to fight out the RB spot with Ebuehi.
The confidence of the team managers to hand him the captains band against Athletico and the yoe man's job he did in that game suggests to me that he is the guy Ebuehi will contend with. I dont care how anyone feels about it but Aina doesnt hold a candle light to Usman Mohammed, expect of course we want to be economic with the truth and common sense flies out of the window because Aina is London born.

You are right, he made a dogs dinner out of the chances given to him on the 'LB' but not on the RB.

Aina is a RB player. It is a fact and not controversial opinion except you watched all him matches and convince me that the stats is not correct then I can understand.

People came here and deceived us that he played mostly as a LB in his club and meself swallow the lies hook line and sinker because I was not following Players nowadays.

It was after your comment that I went to see his stats and it was then that I realised we have been sold a lie to believe that the coach was just to play him on the left because of the false information that he played mostly as a LB this season, when he actually played all the matches as RB (save twice he played as LM and LB) since February till the day he came to World cup camp which amount to 3 good months.

Initially, I thought it good that he should be dropped for Echiejile and I felt indifference when he was dropped but after making research after your comment, I realised Rohr had already planned to drop him even before he kicked a ball else he wouldn't have played him out of position and make him contend with 'I will never forget my boys' player Echiejile who Rohr can never drop because he was part of those who helped him qualify for the world cup.

If a coach doesn't want you he will play you out of position, so that you fail and he will be vindicated if he drops you but if he wants you, he will play you in your natural position or try as much as possible to get you a better position that will accommodate you in the team.

Rohr has done that too.

I say play the boy in his natural position and let us see how good he is but if he is not good enough drop him.

What is the problem?

Let Mohammed Musa, Ebuehi, Shehu etc be given equal chances to prove themselves. That's all.

Gone are the days you play players out of position.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:36am On Jun 04, 2018
I did watch it Sir Tbaba and even to make sure I heard him very well, I read his words verbatim from sound news reports on the interview. Those last lines are the reason I never wanted to even share his interview here.
He never mentioned Mikel or anyone but it is clear to me the set of players he is trying to subtly attack. Onazi should just shut it and buckle up. This is not the time to talk bollocks. This is the time to own up to his failings and just get to work. We have WC looming large over the team. It is work time not blame talk time.


tbaba1234:


Did you watch the interview? He admitted that he played poorly. He talked about other players not running to cover. He never called any names.

He never mentioned Mikel. That is projection.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:42am On Jun 04, 2018
Kog45:
Spot on Aina didn't take his chance

Musa Mohammed as captain against Atletico has nothing to do with any special interest from managers cos he already had his cap with eagles,so naturally he is the leader.

Musa Mohammed better than Aina,well your opinion just like your opinion on Osas Okoro as the best Nigeria RB.

Oh Aina London born,this should not be an issue in analysing his performance.

The young man can still come good with his age cos have watched him as RB and is cool,technically gifted as a player.

I know I hit a nerve whenever someone mentions Osas. It is simple psychology and I didnt expect any less hence, I added "controversial opinion" as a prefix in my initial post.
Truth is that Aina was given chances and he failed. One of the reasons people praised Aina was his versatility to play on either flanks but I am surprised same fans are saying he wasn't given a chance on his preferred position.
Why was he sold as being able to play on either flanks the first place?

If you like, talk about Osas and his grand father it wouldn't change my opinion that Aina is not a good fit and guys like Stanley Amuzie at Sampdoria would have done better if given equal opportunity accorded to Aina.
At right back, Musa Mohammed, Tyronne Ebuehi and Nura Mohammed are far more talented than Aina and they will certainly have a big say in the future of that position for Ngr.
It is time Aina's fans start adjusting to the realities of the future.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:45am On Jun 04, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Onazi is obviously refusing to shoulder the major responsibility for his shambolic outing so he is subtly resorting to the silly blame game. Truth is he was our worst player on the day and all his runnings were bloody meaningless. He should own up to his shortcomings and shut the f**k up. Can he do what Mikel does for the team? Can he even deliver like an Ndidi? Even an Etebo or Ogu trumps him now. Onazi should shut it and own up to his failings so that he can get better and show us he is still relevant to the Eagles. Nonsense.




Etebo trump onazi after just one match, shebi na thesame Etebo we all wan kill with mouth...the truth remain that the whole team had a bad game and mikel positioning should be corrected...there is not sacred cow.

mikel was to forward in that match even when we were having issues, was expecting him to come deeper and settle the game with some passes but rather he was even ahead of Ighalo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:45am On Jun 04, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
I did watch it Sir Tbaba and even to make sure I heard him very well, I read his words verbatim from sound news reports on the interview. Those last lines are the reason I never wanted to even share his interview here.
He never mentioned Mikel or anyone but it is clear to me the set of players he is trying to subtly attack. Onazi should just shut it and buckle up. This is not the time to talk bollocks.

I watched the interview and i saw a man that was really sad about his performance. I read reports that tried to make it seem like he was attacking others. He talked about having to cover more ground because some players were not running. I see nothing wrong in that. He did not exonerate himself from blame.

I think, he will bounce back stronger.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 8:46am On Jun 04, 2018
asha80:
is he firing shots at mikel? Hope no crises in camp oo
Onazi should be dropped after the WC.It looks like he wants to cause division in camp.

After our game against SA, I never wanted him to be starting games for us.

We left Etebo and Ogu on the bench to accommodate him.

He expects Mikel to play his position for him.

I'm certain that we wouldn't have beaten Argentina if Onazi ,V.Moses and Joel played.V.Moses because he will hold- on
to the ball instead of passing.

We need to drop most of this old players after WC.

We need a young and hungry team who can play for each other and can accept responsibility for their errors, not blaming someone else.

Onazi's time with the Eagles is Up.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:48am On Jun 04, 2018
tbaba1234:


Did you watch the interview? He admitted that he played poorly. He talked about other players not running to cover. He never called any names.

He never mentioned Mikel. That is projection.

thank you senior man, when we realise football is a team game, we hadly saw ronaldo in champions league final but they won because his team mate showed up...you guys should stop the blame game is just a friendly.

Onazi worked hard to be in that team is not by sentiment
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 8:50am On Jun 04, 2018
Players That Have Been Played Out Of Position In SE and STILL Gave A Good Account Of Themselves:

Alex Iwobi
John Ogu
Shehu Abdullahi
Mikel Obi

I love Aina just as much as anybody else, and honestly, I still feel bad that he's out of the team, but let us stop peddling tales of being played out of position....that means little to nothing. He was brought to unseat Echiejile, he couldn't do that. He had not one bright game and that was what necessitated Idowu's call up. It was Idowu that kicked out Aina.

Now, I would have preferred dropping a Joel Obi, because as far as I concerned, that one is useless to the team, but I'm not Rohr.

And for those saying other foreign born players will not want to play for Nigeria because of an 'Aina' treatment, they need to get their heads out their asses. We are taking Ekong, Balogun, Ebuehi, Idowu, Iwobi to World Cup.....Aina was the only FB who missed out, so, how that translates to a 'poor return' for FBs is beyond me.

There was no poor treatment of Aina, Aina simply failed to step up when he needed to. If you want to go to the World Cup so much, there is no reason why you can't acclimatize yourself to another position. It's not like they turned him into a striker from a defender, so all this talk about out of position blah blah blah is bollocks.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:52am On Jun 04, 2018
Note that I am not "we all"... And I definitely was never involved in any banter on Etebo performances that much. So I am not part of the "We all"...

Etebo had a good game in Uyo vs Algeria. Have you forgotten? In a deeper midfield role (CDM) Etebo is yet to put a foot wrong. This was a game Onazi also featured in, in a double pivot with Etebo. Etebo played his role very well... so very well in fact.. but Onazi's positional indiscipline came to the fore even in that game. It was his indiscipline that created the gap which Bentaleb exploited to rifle in that strike that beat Akpeyi hands down.

Etebo has only wobbled and fumbled when he is played as an AM. It is so obvious he is not cut out for that role in the SE. But as a box-to-box MF, A CDM (DM/CM) in a double pivot or so... he has always done very well. He can also play LM/LW if the need calls for it.

So yes, in the DM role, I repeat, Etebo right now is a safer bet than an Onazi.


Martz101:


Etebo trump onazi after just one match, shebi na thesame Etebo we all wan kill with mouth...the truth remain that the whole team had a bad game and mikel positioning should be corrected...there is not sacred cow.

mikel was to forward in that match even when we were having issues, was expecting him to come deeper and settle the game with some passes but rather he was even ahead of Ighalo.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:56am On Jun 04, 2018
tbaba1234:


I watched the interview and i saw a man that was really sad about his performance. I read reports that tried to make it seem like he was attacking others. He talked about having to cover more ground because some players were not running. I see nothing wrong in that. He did not exonerate himself from blame.

I think, he will bounce back stronger.

i know that too, his one of the bravest super eagles player...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:58am On Jun 04, 2018
Not so fast with the bolded Mister... cheesy I am mad at Onazi but no way am I dropping him from the team. Not happening. At least not now. I only need him to sit up and show us again why we rated him so highly in 2012 when Keshi gave him that chance in that Liberia game before Afcon 2013.


Now, First of all, Onazi is not old. He is just 25-26. He is just approaching his peak years. Right now, he is just not in his mojo zone.

Also, Onazi is still relevant to this team for the time being but I feel complacency has set in somewhat as he feels relaxed. He feels like no matter what happens, he will always make the team. He needs to sit up and understand that as a leader, he leads by example and before he can criticise he must ensure that he himself is doing his own job well.



EEGA:
Onazi should be dropped after the WC.It looks like he wants to cause division in camp.

After our game against SA, I never wanted him to be starting games for us.

We left Etebo and Ogu on the bench to accommodate him.

He expects Mikel to play his position for him.

I'm certain that we wouldn't have beaten Argentina if Onazi ,V.Moses and Joel played.V.Moses because he will hold- on
to the ball instead of passing.

We need to drop most of this old players after WC.

We need a young and hungry team who can play for each other and can accept responsibility for their errors, not blaming someone else.

Onazi's time with the Eagles is Up.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:59am On Jun 04, 2018
Joebie:
I don’t think so. I think fonts are chosen to match the theme of the kit design

Eh I see . I really don't like d way font.. some people may fins it difficult to read d names...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 9:01am On Jun 04, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


The last part caught my attention.
Onazi: some people cannot be running for the team while some people are just standing looking.
Onazi is not ready for the WC.

He has also forgotten that we lost the last two matches he captained.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 9:01am On Jun 04, 2018
Mickael2:



Finally someone else has seen it.

not to mention that this was an English team that was already two goals up, a poor English team none the less. If we play that same second half again against Croatia we will have nothing to show for it. Everybody is hailing our second half performance as if it was a very good performance but then it wasn't, it was just better than the shitshow we produced in the first half.
We were the better side in the second half. The team sef wasn't as bad as y'all are painting it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:03am On Jun 04, 2018
All I know is this, before a leader can criticise, he should ensure he is doing his own part well. This game with England was not the first time in recent times that Nigerian fans have complained about Onazi's performance in the GWG. That game against South Africa also comes to mind. He was the undisputed leader of the team that day. This was your chance to assert some good authority and show what a fine vice captain you are on-field but Onazi failed that test too. Onazi is a battler and warrior..... me of all people know that and have oftentimes spoken about it when I discuss our players but his biggest problem has always been his positional indiscipline in that DM role. The issue goes as far back as Post-Brazil 2014. He doesn't seem to be doing anything about it. Being sad and frustrated at your performance is not enough... there must be effort on his part to improve so that we don't get another despondent face expressing disappointment in himself or blaming himself or trying to subtly shift it to others... no... Onazi must wake up and realise he has to work. Simple.

tbaba1234:


I watched the interview and i saw a man that was really sad about his performance. I read reports that tried to make it seem like he was attacking others. He talked about having to cover more ground because some players were not running. I see nothing wrong in that. He did not exonerate himself from blame.

I think, he will bounce back stronger.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 9:07am On Jun 04, 2018
Martz101:


onazi listed among those guys ain't fair...apart from these England friendly, please remind me of a poor game he had.

naming Echiejile,akpeyi and Onazi together is really not fair and makes collin right about us wanting new things always.

Etebo and onazi who is better since Rohr took over or becAuse of one good game he now becomes a saint
Etebo played the CM and DM position well against Algeria in Uyo, but Rohr wanted him as a back-up to Mikel, that's why he played him as a 10 in subsequent matches.

Etebo has never been poor as a CM or DM.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 9:11am On Jun 04, 2018
Mickael2:



Finally someone else has seen it.

not to mention that this was an English team that was already two goals up, a poor English team none the less. If we play that same second half again against Croatia we will have nothing to show for it. Everybody is hailing our second half performance as if it was a very good performance but then it wasn't, it was just better than the shitshow we produced in the first half.
Iwobi was already tired by then and need to be subbed by another creative player.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 9:11am On Jun 04, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
The People’s MOTM, this 22 year-old Gunner is One to Get Fully Behind
(written on June 3rd)





It is fair to say that Alex Iwobi has his critics among the Arsenal faithful. He was only six weeks old when England beat the mighty Oranje in 1996 (4-1) and that tells you how young he still is. Yet there really are already more than a handful of Gunners who want him sold! They have seen enough, they tell me. Everybody is entitled to have an opinion, of course, but come on: give the boy a chance!!


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44343704


Yesterday, Alex was voted Player of the Match by the fans, and quite rightly so (see link above).

The Super Eagles were played off the pitch by the Three Lions in the first half, but Alex was the only one who dealt well with the impressive press that was applied by the home team. He constantly held on to the ball and made space for himself without it and with it. He then found a fellow player in enough space to pass the ball to regularly, and thus start an attack from beating the press. I was less impressed by Iwobi’s fellow midfielders who often lost the ball when the slightest bit of pressure was applied to them, which then left the defenders exposed time and again.

England scored twice and should have scored more goals as they outclassed Nigeria completely during the first half.
However, Gernot Rohr did a fab job in making tactical changes – three at the back and four substitutions – and getting his team re-focused for the second half, whilst England’s boys clearly felt they had done enough in the first half and/or were unable to respond adequately to Nigeria’s changes.
The Super Eagles scored within two minutes and then their wing-tales were up, the away crowd were behind them even more and the midfield was dominated by the visitors till the end of the game. It was Iwobi who set up the deadly attack with a fine ball to Ighalo from the centre of midfield; the former Watford striker hit the post with his precise diagonal strike and he was unlucky not to score; but the ball bounced back towards the ‘D-area’ and there was Alex to calmly steer it past defenders and keeper to score a fine, Ramseyesque goal.

Alex kept making himself available and linked up the midfield with attack constantly. At the end he tired and he may have picked up a small injury, but Rohr was not going to sub his best player – one of only five players who played the whole game.

With 1.4 key passes per game, 5 assists and three goals in
26 PL games last season, our 22 year young brightest attacking star from our youth ranks is one to get fully behind and believe in. And I cannot wait to see more of him at the Oranje-deprived WC in a couple of weeks time.


**By TotalArsenal.


Source: https://bergkampesque.com/2018/06/03/the-peoples-motm-this-22-year-old-gunner-is-one-to-get-fully-behind/




For the most parts we owned that second half. Many agree with this. Let us not be conservative with the truth. We know we must improve but the truth remains that we indeed owned England in that second half. Enough of the overly conservative talk. We dominated the midfield in that second half for the most parts from beginning to end and the ref even ended the game when we were on the attack with seconds on the clock left before 94 mins. EOD. And Iwobi was definitely our star man at Wembley. Our no.1 top performer on the overall.



Believe me,if Rohr and Wenger had utilized Iwobi very well in midfield than wasting him on the wings,he would have been very much better in that role..
He still need to improve on two things though..
1) His shooting: I really don't get why he I'd afraid to take shots from d middle... there are times when playing for both arsenal and Nigeria he would find himself in a position good enough to shot,but he would rather pass.. He should work on that oo...

2) His defensive contribution.


I very much believe that playing him in d middle will go a long way in adding creativity to our midfield even with Mikel not in it..
our best midfield pairing now are

Ndidi - Ogu - Mikel
Ndidi - Mikel - Iwobi
Ndidi - Etebo - Mikel



any midfield combo without Onazi and Joel will do jare grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 9:12am On Jun 04, 2018

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:15am On Jun 04, 2018
charlesemeka85:
Coach Gernot Rohr has defended a lethargic performance by Joel Obi against England, revealing the Torino midfielder is not 100% fit.

The Eagles coach also disclosed that besides Brian Idowu, Elderson Echiejile is his other leftback.



“Joel Obi had some problems to get into his game, he is working very hard because he was injured for a few weeks, so he is not fit 100%,” Rohr said.

“He has to work very much, like many other players he’s a little bit heavy.”

The coach further said Elderson is his other leftback besides Russia-based Brian Idowu.

“Idowu did well especially in second half (vs England), he’s fit, he’s quick. But we have also Elderson Echiejile,” he said.

Rohr will today name his final 23 players with two players placed on standby but they will also fly out with the rest of the squad to a training camp in Austria.

No matter the situation in the Nigerian context officials think personal interest before National interest.

Rohr has been coaching in Africa for near a decade he understands how to navigate our politics. That means he will concede and compromise with his paymaster. This will enable him to carry out his job with limited contention.

I really can not see how you can justify players inclusion after performing poorly on the basis of returning from injury, not fit, etc

Football politics at play.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 9:16am On Jun 04, 2018
asha80:
is he firing shots at mikel? Hope no crises in camp oo
maybe victor moses
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 9:20am On Jun 04, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
I did watch it Sir Tbaba and even to make sure I heard him very well, I read his words verbatim from sound news reports on the interview. Those last lines are the reason I never wanted to even share his interview here.
He never mentioned Mikel or anyone but it is clear to me the set of players he is trying to subtly attack. Onazi should just shut it and buckle up. This is not the time to talk bollocks. This is the time to own up to his failings and just get to work. We have WC looming large over the team. It is work time not blame talk time.



I just hope sticking with Onazi wouldn't be Rohr's biggest undoing at the WC

He's unfit, clueless on the field and recently seems bnt on disrupting team chemistry.

I think he should be disciplined

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 9:21am On Jun 04, 2018
forgiveness:


You are right, he made a dogs dinner out of the chances given to him on the 'LB' but not on the RB.

Aina is a RB player. It is a fact and not controversial opinion except you watched all him matches and convince me that the stats is not correct then I can understand.

People came here and deceived us that he played mostly as a LB in his club and meself swallow the lies hook line and sinker because I was not following Players nowadays.

It was after your comment that I went to see his stats and it was then that I realised we have been sold a lie to believe that the coach was just to play him on the left because of the false information that he played mostly as a LB this season, when he actually played all the matches as RB (save twice he played as LM and LB) since February till the day he came to World cup camp which amount to 3 good months.

Initially, I thought it good that he should be dropped for Echiejile and I felt indifference when he was dropped but after making research after your comment, I realised Rohr had already planned to drop him even before he kicked a ball else he wouldn't have played him out of position and make him contend with 'I will never forget my boys' player Echiejile who Rohr can never drop because he was part of those who helped him qualify for the world cup.

If a coach doesn't want you he will play you out of position, so that you fail and he will be vindicated if he drops you but if he wants you, he will play you in your natural position or try as much as possible to get you a better position that will accommodate you in the team.

Rohr has done that too.

I say play the boy in his natural position and let us see how good he is but if he is not good enough drop him.

What is the problem?

Let Mohammed Musa, Ebuehi, Shehu etc be given equal chances to prove themselves. That's all.

Gone are the days you play players out of position.


The bolded is actually what annoyed me most about Aina issue..it also annoys me cus if the way some people (including you with ur Joel obi, Kayode thing) hype some players here....
A lot of people (tbaba in particular) made us believe that Aina could play LB and RB comfortably.. I was like "wow, that's awesome, its not every time u see a right footed player who plays LB well". Aina himself probably had Rohr convinced that he could play d role well..
He had enough minutes to prove to Rohr what he got.... Yea,he had enough game,even more compared to Ebuehi who needed just 45 minutes to show us what he could do..

Its largely his fault that he is dropped... I feel very bad for him...

Post Russia may still favour him if Rohr remains in charge sha..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:22am On Jun 04, 2018
EEGA:
Onazi is not ready for the WC.

He has also forgotten that we lost the last two matches he captained.

Who captained against DRC?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:24am On Jun 04, 2018
EEGA:
Etebo plays the CM and DM position well against Algeria in Uyo, but Rohr wanted him as a back-up to Mikel that's why he played him as a 10 in subsequent matches.

Etebo has never been poor as a CM or DM.

excuses flying in and out...very soon it will change, no consistency
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:24am On Jun 04, 2018
tbaba1234:


I watched the interview and i saw a man that was really sad about his performance. I read reports that tried to make it seem like he was attacking others. He talked about having to cover more ground because some players were not running. I see nothing wrong in that. He did not exonerate himself from blame.

I think, he will bounce back stronger.

I completely agree with you.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:25am On Jun 04, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Note that I am not "we all"... And I definitely was never involved in any banter on Etebo performances that much. So I am not part of the "We all"...

Etebo had a good game in Uyo vs Algeria. Have you forgotten? In a deeper midfield role (CDM) Etebo is yet to put a foot wrong. This was a game Onazi also featured in, in a double pivot with Etebo. Etebo played his role very well... so very well in fact.. but Onazi's positional indiscipline came to the fore even in that game. It was his indiscipline that created the gap which Bentaleb exploited to rifle in that strike that beat Akpeyi hands down.

Etebo has only wobbled and fumbled when he is played as an AM. It is so obvious he is not cut out for that role in the SE. But as a box-to-box MF, A CDM (DM/CM) in a double pivot or so... he has always done very well. He can also play LM/LW if the need calls for it.

So yes, in the DM role, I repeat, Etebo right now is a safer bet than an Onazi.



blue music coming in for Etebo very soon we go still hear regea
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:27am On Jun 04, 2018
Don't let the R n B tunes in your head for Onazi make you not see the point in my analysis. I have said what needs to be said.


Martz101:


blue music coming in for Etebo very soon we go still hear regea
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:28am On Jun 04, 2018
Edopesin:

Iwobi already has more endorsements than many English stars yet someone was arguing here that the money would have flowed better if he had chosen England.


Some beer parlor analysts sha grin

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