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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 4:28pm On Jun 05, 2018
komekn:


His Uncle is JJay Okocha he got into the SE before he had played one senior professional game for Arsenal.

However, Sone Aluko, Hope Akpan, with outstanding performances for the SE have been dropped, set aside and forgotten.

Add to that Aina set aside for a player that has failed to meet the standard at low club level..

THATS GREAT INSPIRATION for future Nigerian origin players.

Nigerian origin players know they face discrimination from thier white peers but the discrimination from your own people is much MORE PAINFUL.

NUFF said
yes o, Ekong that was dropped when Oliseh was coach, resurfaced thanks to his uncle Pinnick

Ebuehi's uncle, was also instrumental to his making it on the list.

And let us not forget how Leon Balogun's uncle also influenced Rohr to put him in.

And the biggest one of all, Idowu, that one's uncle, Segun Odegbami, is the reason he is going to Russia


If only Hopr Akpan, Sone Aluko and Aina had uncles in the NFF.


Oga Komekn, next time, please, restrict your cries to your overrated English players cuz everyone else is having a blast in the Super Eagles

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 4:28pm On Jun 05, 2018
Joebie:
oga this is exactly the reason why I don't think one way. The club you play or league you play only tells one thing. But it does not mean that you are better than those who didn't get that opportunity. Even at club level, it's still has to do with opportunity to some extent.


yes true especially for African players, i use to use brown ideye foe example...better players than him can't even near clubs he has played for
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:30pm On Jun 05, 2018
Afam4eva:

I also give it to Alex Iwobi. There's something about British players who decide to play for Nigeria instead. They tend to be very passionate. Iwobi reminds me of Anichebe during his stint with the super eagles.

And how well he was treated by the NFF
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 4:31pm On Jun 05, 2018
Again, you got it all wrong buddy. It doesn't matter how well you can perform in your football club, if you can't replicate that form in the green and white then you don't belong in the Super Eagles. It's as simple as that.

Secondly, based on my little experience in coaching, I know that a good coach has to consider several things in selecting his team: including experience and balance. The current Super Eagles team is a very young team. How many of them have played in the World Cup before? So why would a serious coach sacrifice experienced players and leaders like: Onazi, Echiejile, and/or Musa, just so he can put in the greenhorns (Aina and Agu) who are not even marginally better?

Trust me, only armchair critics and armchair coaches like y'all would do that.


O pari

komekn:


I will say it again.

Training camp is indicative not conclusive.

You can not be a mouse in your club and league and all of a sudden become a lion in the SE.

As it stands we no longer have World class players good and even very good but World class No. Possibly Ndidi may get there but for now he is a top class player.

So in comparison it's possible that a player who is average may seem excellent in the SE. That not withstanding there is no amount of training camp exposure that will make Echiejile fast and better that Aina experience or no experience.

As it stands we may be carrying some passengers to Russia. Echiejile, Joel and a non performing Onazi.

You go to the World cup with the the best players you can get, no loyalty over quality.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 4:31pm On Jun 05, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Will Oliseh in his life time as a professional footballer ever run out of his position repeatedly in that manner?

football is not one way traffic,some situation may warant a defensive midfielder defending high up.

and yes i have seen sunday come up and even beating players with skills
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:31pm On Jun 05, 2018
Tried and tested in SE colors.

komekn:


One question ❓ seeing he is playing in the lowly Isreali league after failing in the lower European leagues.

How many long range shots has he scored in his entire career and how many this season in Isreal

Then compare that statistic to the people you are asking him to teach.

I will like this to a secondary school student trying to teach mathematics a Professor of Mathematics.

Is that not elementary madness.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:32pm On Jun 05, 2018
Some people just want attention but I am not ready to give it.

People brings lies everyday here to justify the exclusion of players but when you debunk such lies they begin to call names and going unnecessarily personal.

So, I should be intimidated to submit to lies without asking questions or answering questions because I must have the same view with everybody here.

A player was dropped, you say na because he did it in an obscure league and current performance matters. Now, a player from an obscure league is picked ahead of a player that did better in a better league but we are hearing another story with different dimension that the player in an obscure league has ability than the one in a better league and they are telling us that the one in a better league is not good enough.

We dey ask question why the teaches they contradict themselves in a subtle way but all we dey here is..... keep quiet ...you are a wailer. grin

My friends, the sea is big enough for wales and sharks to live in. Make you pass if you no dey intelligent enough to decipher.

It is not as if one wan make dem drop Ogu but their wayo and fish brain must be shown to dem. Enough said.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:32pm On Jun 05, 2018
Many considerations my friend. Leave all these one-way thinkers
Icon79:
Again, you got it all wrong buddy. It doesn't matter how well you can perform in your football club, if you can't replicate that form in the green and white then you don't belong in the Super Eagles. It's as simple as that.

Secondly, based on my little experience in coaching, I know that a good coach has to consider several things in selecting his team: including experience and balance. The current Super Eagles team is a very young team. How many of them have played in the World Cup before? So why would a serious coach sacrifice experienced players and leaders like: Onazi, Echiejile, and/or Musa, just so he can put in the greenhorns (Aina and Agu) who are not even marginally better?

Trust me, only armchair critics and armchair coaches like y'all would do that.


O pari

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 4:32pm On Jun 05, 2018
AIG07:
Add Iwobi.

His reaction and jump celebration to his goal was very very passionate indeed.

I saw real Eagles fire in his celebrations... That "we are champs and don't give up" attitude... That moment was it... The moment the stuff of a player ready to lead the way shone through...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:33pm On Jun 05, 2018
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 4:34pm On Jun 05, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


All these you are writing is long story. It is clear for all to see. As long as your DMF does not maintain his role, the team loses shape. It is as simple as that. Onazi did not do his primary job. Simple.

you maintain you position when you attack but when the team is on pressure then you can be found in the right back or left back...go back check kante,fenadihno even casemerio
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:35pm On Jun 05, 2018
edi287:

Aina is a regular at Hull and had an above average season. Echiejile wasn't even getting starts at a second division Belgian side. How many opportunities did Aina get if we're being real?? Yes I know people will point to Ebuehi and talk about how he came and played well against Argentina but he was a bit shaky in his first game for us too.
Yes Aina hasn't killed it but neither did Echiejile. If we all agree Idowu is first choice LB at the moment, why not take a younger Aina to gain experience? His versatility might have come in handy.

When you come on is a very very pertinent.

Coming on in the first half of asha80 perfomance by all and in the second half with totally different team tactics makes huge DIFFERENCE.

On total how many minutes did Aina play And in what circumstance.

Aina is clearly better than Echiejile but is dropped why.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 4:36pm On Jun 05, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
At your first paragraph, would Nigeria afford to drop Moses prior to a WC?

You should know that Moses is much important to Nigeria than Sane us to Germany. An accomplished and thoroughly sorted out team brimming with talent.

You all should cease mistaking confidence and guile for selfishness.
And instinct squeezes out goals from stubborn defenses.

Though I'm not in any way insinuating that he's never guilty of being selfish but its really over exaggerated and mistaken.


No team that wouldn't want such player in their fold I'm sure its certain.

such players are best employed as super subs when you need a goal. They are not sure starters

Imagine you need a goal, but your most potent goal threat is already on the pitch?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 4:37pm On Jun 05, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Covering for Idowu would mean taking Idowu's position at the LB, in case Idowu is beaten, he can cover. Going to do Idowu's job and you want to blame Mikel for Onazi leaving his role for others to play it. You can see you are interested in others playing different roles than us playing in an organized fashion. This is why the ship is more stable with Ogu than Onazi.

your hatred for onazi blinds you from seein what i meant, a defensive midfielder is not suppose to station in middle and be static, you are like a substitute for everyone at the back

go and educate your self more

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:37pm On Jun 05, 2018
My Czech friendly lineup with 6 subs

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:47pm On Jun 05, 2018
komekn:


One question ❓ seeing he is playing in the lowly Isreali league after failing in the lower European leagues.

How many long range shots has he scored in his entire career and how many this season in Isreal

Then compare that statistic to the people you are asking him to teach.

I will like this to a secondary school student trying to teach mathematics a Professor of Mathematics.

Is that not elementary madness.

There are other factors that have prevented Ogu from playing in a top league.

When he was younger, Ogu signed a deal with Almeria then in La liga after his time in Slovenia but he got into a transfer mess with another club in Belgium who had his ITC. When that was sorted, he failed the Almeria medical because he picked up a knee injury whilst trying to keep fit. He moved to Portugal after this.

In Academica in the portuguese top flight, he had a problem with the coach for honoring a call to Nigeria and was benched as a result. He was then out of contract before the Israeli call came.

I do not think, he needs to teach anyone anything but he does have a good shot on him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 4:48pm On Jun 05, 2018
mazimee:
ADO Den Haag Chief: We Were Afraid Ebuehi Would Be Axed From Eagles World Cup Squad
allnigeriasoccer.com Jun 5, 2018 11:15 AM
ADO Den Haag Chief: We Were Afraid Ebuehi Would Be Axed From Eagles World Cup Squad
ADO Den Haag Director of Football, Jeffrey van As, has admitted that everyone at the club was scared that Tyronne Ebuehi would not be selected in Nigeria's 23-man World Cup squad.

In truth, van As has a point there as the right fullback had been struggling with a groin injury since March, which made him miss the last five games of the season, before he reported for international duty.

ADO Den Haag will be allocated N53.2 million while Benfica will receive N26.6 million from Fifa for the group stage alone following the inclusion of Ebuehi in the Super Eagles squad.

''In the winter we could have sold Ty. We thought: if we keep him, we can still get that World Cup compensation fee in addition to the training allowance,'' van As told Voetbal International.

''When he got injured a while ago, we were afraid that he would not make it to the World Cup, then our plan had fallen apart. But it worked out just fine.''

He added : ''If a top club like Benfica signs him for five years, then that says something about his qualities. I also see him as one of the very good right backs in the Netherlands last season, but apparently the top clubs from the Eredivisie did not believe in him.

''As far as I am concerned, it is a shame that a talented boy like him is already going abroad''.

Ebuehi wore the Super Eagles jersey for the sixth time in his international career when he came off the bench in the 2-1 loss to England last weekend.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

http://allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=28034

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SerVik(m): 4:48pm On Jun 05, 2018
forgiveness:


Thank you very much.

Goke7 over to you.
You just come here looking for what or whom to criticize. If rorh had submitted the list for vetting by NFF, you'd still come here crying about how NFF played politics with the list

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 4:50pm On Jun 05, 2018
Joebie:
Make una free Onazi. He don apologize. That was the same player that laid a nice cross to Iheanacho to power home against Cameroon. He may not be in his best form, but we can only hope that when given the chance next, he would put in an improved shift.

As regards Agu, if Ghanaians come here to see the player we are making a fuss over, dem go laugh us. We can live without Agu. Agu is not significantly better than any of the DMs in the team. Take that to the bank. We don’t know all the factors Rohr took into considerations before he made his decision. We are only judging from 20, 30 minutes they put in, in a friendly. When Lokosa was dropped how many monikers came to his defense? If Agu is called up tomorrow, it’s up to him to honor the call. There are many deserving DMs dying for their first call. Two players had to be dropped, and it happenes to be Aina and himself. They have to take the disappointment in professional way, and live to fight another day.

my brother preach on, Agu is been bench by our right back shehu in there club...they no fit please una.

some people said Agu was in the team because Rohr love him, now they don change mouth

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 4:52pm On Jun 05, 2018
comodo:
For those shouting blue murder that Agu was dropped in place of Onazi or Joel. Onazi's faults recently are just a lot of misplaced passes thats all. A DM is always adviced to play it simple. Worst case, boot it out of touch for throw in. It happened against Congo & England. The guy may be having some issues that are affecting his game which needs to be sorted out soonest.
Believe it or not, Onazi will be his very best soon. And for these players they re hyping now. Watch out and see how they disappear in games when the time comes. I think una see as Vicmo loss like ogiri inside soup against England. I fear for Nacho too.

peeps here go follow them move like Mtn...they will soon sing his praise and ask why a headless chicken like Etebo should be in that team
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 4:53pm On Jun 05, 2018
Icon79:
Again, you got it all wrong buddy. It doesn't matter how well you can perform in your football club, if you can't replicate that form in the green and white then you don't belong in the Super Eagles. It's as simple as that.

Secondly, based on my little experience in coaching, I know that a good coach has to consider several things in selecting his team: including experience and balance. The current Super Eagles team is a very young team. How many of them have played in the World Cup before? So why would a serious coach sacrifice experienced players and leaders like: Onazi, Echiejile, and/or Musa, just so he can put in the greenhorns (Aina and Agu) who are not even marginally better?

Trust me, only armchair critics and armchair coaches like y'all would do that.


O pari

this is what happened to leroy sane

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 4:54pm On Jun 05, 2018
komekn:


When you come on is a very very pertinent.

Coming on in the first half of asha80 perfomance by all and in the second half with totally different team tactics makes huge DIFFERENCE.

On total how many minutes did Aina play And in what circumstance.

Aina is clearly better than Echiejile but is dropped why.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:55pm On Jun 05, 2018
Martz101:


Obi need to wake and i mean mikel obi, alot is expected of him, he was always found ahead of ighalo wasting his energy chasing down keeper and CD...and for the corner, after the first mistake, i thought he should have been vocal to get the players to concentrate.

thanks for the courage to state what many people don't want to

Actually everybody knows Mikel is dead slow. Without the ball.his contribution is let's say not great. His closing down almost comical.

However, very very big however, when he has the ball he makes things happen.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 4:58pm On Jun 05, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
It is the same thing naa... We didn't lose in Cameroun either.

I think one thing I notice is this. When the Super Eagles win or get a good draw, it is normal to see us analyse without mentioning some flaws noticed in our players' display. This is especially when we win big. Lol



That's normal but Onazi was one of the top performers because of the ground he covered and the balls he won. U can't have your cake and eat it too, u can't expect him to be all over the place and also in position 100% of the time.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 4:58pm On Jun 05, 2018
forgiveness:


If a player is not good how did he win MOTMs ahead of players better than himself?

Agu played in the Portuguese league, he won a MOTM award and made the Portuguese league team of the week 3 good times or more.

http://footballpremium.com/africa/mikel-agu-picked-for-portugal-team-of-week-for-third-time/

Agu went ahead to replicate the same form in the Turkish league. He won 3 MOTM awards despite being a DMF and made the team of the week not once or twice. Yet how good is he?

Ola Aina is not good but he has won 2 MOTM awards and championship team of the week not once in just his first full season in the Championship and yet he is not good?

Make una dey deceive una self.

oga stop using this your man of the match criteria

Onazi won man of the match back to back thrice in turkey.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:03pm On Jun 05, 2018
Martz101:


compare a john ogu and Aina

There is so many challenges for African footballers, Aina can't even get enyimba job.

my only regret is Ogu is 30 already.

when you look at Ogu you wonder how did bakayoko get to chelsea and ogu is in israel

Easy answer. = ZERO PACE
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 5:06pm On Jun 05, 2018
TheSuperNerd:

The name in bold is a master of those himself. I dare say he even hits it far better than Ogu.



Bro i know you love nacho well but Ogu shots are always accurate and leveled just like matic
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:11pm On Jun 05, 2018
Martz101:


your hatred for onazi blinds you from seein what i meant, a defensive midfielder is not suppose to station in middle and be static, you are like a substitute for everyone at the back

go and educate your self more

Please, you are contradicting yourself. I would have no problem if Onazi covers the backline. That is even my complain. My problem is him going forward and exposing the backline he is meant to protect.

I do not hate Onazi. He is a National hero.

Gerrit?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:14pm On Jun 05, 2018
Martz101:


football is not one way traffic,some situation may warant a defensive midfielder defending high up.

and yes i have seen sunday come up and even beating players with skills

Onazi should learn to shield the defence or step down for another to do the job. How come Ogu, Agu, Hope Akpan get it right and a highly experienced defender like him gets it wrong repeatedly. He should do the job or step down.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 5:16pm On Jun 05, 2018
safarigirl:
So, it is no longer Kayode, it is now Agu.

Wailers keep wailing and causing distractions. World Cup is in less than two weeks and people are still moaning over players that 90% of fans KNEW would not make it to Russia. This same Agu is who has been collecting insult from Naija fans since, same guy who many accused Rohr of favoritism on top his head, now, mans is the best DM since Busquetes? World people sha undecided

nne i taya o...the way this people dey take shift ehn
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:16pm On Jun 05, 2018
TheSuperNerd:


His reaction and jump celebration to his goal was very very passionate indeed.

I saw real Eagles fire in his celebrations... That "we are champs and don't give up" attitude... That moment was it... The moment the stuff of a player ready to lead the way shone through...

During the game, I made a statement and those watching the game with agreed. Iwobi has grown up and I think Wenger's departure sparked a hunger in him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 5:18pm On Jun 05, 2018
Martz101:


I'm not saying his bad, he didn't have a good game, he was dropped against Algeria and Argentina.

go back and watch his game against Cameroon and tgen zambia

I believe he was injured that's why he wasn't invited for Algeria and Argentina game. Against Cameroon he grew into the game and was impressive in the dying minutes so was he against Zambia. One thing to take is that Agu has never started any game for Nigeria and has not played enough minutes to be given proper assessment.

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