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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 5:49pm On Jun 05, 2018
komekn:


His Uncle is JJay Okocha he got into the SE before he had played one senior professional game for Arsenal.

However, Sone Aluko, Hope Akpan, with outstanding performances for the SE have been dropped, set aside and forgotten.

Add to that Aina set aside for a player that has failed to meet the standard at low club level..

THATS GREAT INSPIRATION for future Nigerian origin players.

Nigerian origin players know they face discrimination from thier white peers but the discrimination from your own people is much MORE PAINFUL.

NUFF said
Being FB doesn't mean you have automatic shirt,you have to fight and prove you deserve a shirt.

Echiejile played almost all WC qualifiers,dropping him will be injustice.

Aina had his chance against Argentina and DR Congo but failed to prove he deserves a shirt with the Eagle.

Against Argentina, one of the goals came through his wings.Against DR Congo, his tackle caused the equalizer.

Don't forget Aina was brought to the team for the LB position, as Ebuehi and Shehu has taken the right.

Talking about playing Aina in RB is not possible because Shehu must go to WC and Ebuehi is better defensively ,recovers fast
and has good positioning off the ball.

Aina should wait, his time will come.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 5:52pm On Jun 05, 2018
krattoss:
in no time, u ill eat ur words I promise..
I ll personally remind u and I have bookmark this..

Na vic Moses u dey call smelly rat baa?
No yawa
not just smelly rat, smelly rat piss na wetin e call am.

Victor Moses go just dey cry if e read that kain fatal punch
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SerVik(m): 5:52pm On Jun 05, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Covering for Idowu would mean taking Idowu's position at the LB, in case Idowu is beaten, he can cover. Going to do Idowu's job and you want to blame Mikel for Onazi leaving his role for others to play it. You can see you are interested in others playing different roles than us playing in an organized fashion. This is why the ship is more stable with Ogu than Onazi.
When fullbacks attack, it is normal for DMs to cover for them. It is not a matter of leaving your role, it's a matter of covering gaps. As a matter of fact, some Nigerian coaches mistake this to mean that these players can play as fullbacks. We've seen keshi deploy onazi as a RB before and even Rorh used Ndidi as RB against Zambia. In a three man defense, when a wing back attacks, it is the role of the RCB and LCB to cover for them that is why you would always see azpilicueta temporarily take up the RB position when Moses attacks, but when it comes to the flat four back line, DMs conveniently do this.

What guardiola did this season was to reverse this system and have fullbacks slot in as DMs when the DMs attack.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eleniyan15: 5:52pm On Jun 05, 2018
Onazi failed as a vice captain not even as a DM, same applies to mikel.

In DM department it a duty for someone should stay back and intercept the ball(onazi should have done that but he was also running helter skelter that was the reason why there was space for the likes of Lingaard to run around).

why the second DM chase down attackers(which joel obi did).


The team need to focus and communicate while on the field of play, lack of communication affected both DM and caused player hit themselves which could have caused head injury.




Case close on onazi matter cool cheesy he has apologize since yesterday let get over it and pray they learn.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 5:53pm On Jun 05, 2018
TheSuperNerd:


His reaction and jump celebration to his goal was very very passionate indeed.

I saw real Eagles fire in his celebrations... That "we are champs and don't give up" attitude... That moment was it... The moment the stuff of a player ready to lead the way shone through...

his our future, i pray he continue playing for a top club
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eleniyan15: 5:56pm On Jun 05, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Hard for me seeing V. Moses on the bench because I feel he has more to offer the team. I also see him in the Light of having potential to do what the likes of Salah and Griezmann offer. That is why I want to see him paired in a forward role with Iheanacho. Both of them have massive attacking Potentials.


Good but you need a stubborn CF who can shield the ball easily nacho can't do that but moses can, you can't take the likes of ighalo and simy to world up and expect them to be bench their a threat even without touching the ball

I don't think rohr has time for experiment again he would go with 70% of is starting 11 tomorrow and formation
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 5:56pm On Jun 05, 2018
safarigirl:
not just smelly rat, smelly rat piss na wetin e call am.

Victor Moses go just dey cry if e read that kain fatal punch
that nigga ain't even worthy to lace vicmo shoes..
Just that he is opportuned to see a free forum like nairaland, that's why he is ranting b/f angry angry
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 5:57pm On Jun 05, 2018
tbaba1234:
Garba Lawal, Member of NFF technical Committee:


“I got to know about the list on the social media like every other Nigerian. And I was surprised that the technical committee was not told about the list before it was made public.

“It seems we don’t know what we are doing. Rohr is the one that can answer Nigerians why members like Fanny Amun, Victor Ikpeba, Mutiu Adepoju were not consulted.

“At this moment, whether we say yes to Rohr’s list or not, there is nothing we can do again since the final squad has be named,”

“I am particularly sad that a player like Uche Agbo, who played week in, week out for his club, Standard Liege of Belgium was not given a chance to prove his worth.

“This guy is a utility player, who as a defensive midfielder, can also operate as a defender in the middle and at both wings. Yet such talent was dropped without a look in. I still believe there are qualities in the team that can make us proud in Russia,”




I watched the England vs Ngr game with someone close to Henry Agbo, some of the things he said was quite amusing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 5:57pm On Jun 05, 2018
komekn:


When you come on is a very very pertinent.

Coming on in the first half of asha80 perfomance by all and in the second half with totally different team tactics makes huge DIFFERENCE.

On total how many minutes did Aina play And in what circumstance.

Aina is clearly better than Echiejile but is dropped why.



is it that you choose to lie or you forget easily, Aina started Algeria and Argentina match which he flopped, and which condition are you talking about, is his condition worst than ebuehi that played with injury

My only advise for Aina is for him to sit at home and watch Ebuehi very well in the worldcup, I'm sure he will learn alot.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 5:59pm On Jun 05, 2018
Joebie:
My Czech friendly lineup with 6 subs

but i don't think chief mikel will want to play deep and some peep still believe iwobi is not good as a 10
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 6:00pm On Jun 05, 2018
tbaba1234:


There are other factors that have prevented Ogu from playing in a top league.

When he was younger, Ogu signed a deal with Almeria then in La liga after his time in Slovenia but he got into a transfer mess with another club in Belgium who had his ITC. When that was sorted, he failed the Almeria medical because he picked up a knee injury whilst trying to keep fit. He moved to Portugal after this.

In Academica in the portuguese top flight, he had a problem with the coach for honoring a call to Nigeria and was benched as a result. He was then out of contract before the Israeli call came.

I do not think, he needs to teach anyone anything but he does have a good shot on him.


to crown it all, bad player management has ruin so many good players career
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 6:03pm On Jun 05, 2018
Martz101:


ogu attempt more shot??

how many shot ha nacho scored out of the 18 yeard box, national team and club??
Idk... How many had Ogu scored.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 6:04pm On Jun 05, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


No need going aggressive. Debate the point and not attack people. We are here for a common goal.

who is been aggressive, you said his not playing to instruction. how will you know that when you ain't the coach
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 6:08pm On Jun 05, 2018
AIG07:
JUST IMAGINE 7 of our starting 11 having that kind of believe and passion.

I still find it hard to understand why we took our feet off the gas after scoring. The English were in total disarray immediately we scored. I was expecting us to capitalise on that... But our players went on to sleep and left Iwobi all alone to run the show...

The psychologist needs to help the entire team BELIEVE again... They need to see themselves again as champions. They need to understand that the whole of Africa is looking up to them. Beating Zambia, Cameroon and Algeria enroute to qualification no be beans... They must not FAIL.

every ship need a captain to sail, mikel was suppose to be the captain...i was expecting some level of urgency.

mikel and rohr should have fired them on
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 6:11pm On Jun 05, 2018
OMANBALA1:



You have to rate these guys based on the number of minutes they played for the SE.

Etebor was on from start to finish against Algeria in Uyo and he was impressive.

Against Cameroon and Zambia both in Nigeria Agu came in as a substitute and held the CM and DM respectively, together. And these two games were our toughest of the whole qualifiers.

Against Algeria away Etebor was woeful.

Against Congo where we have both players together Agu owned and bossed that midfield with little effort while Etebor almost didn't come to play.

I wouldn't go into Onazi because he is practically done.

My point is that Agu has not started a game for Nigeria and there is no game he played and didn't impress

your performance when you are the substitute we earn you the starting spot.

Agu was dropped for a poor game and you are praising him, i remember Rohr visiting super sport studio and he wad questioned about bringing Agu on when he had better players like Ogu. Although Rohr response was that Agu was one of the best in training. me and you know that is not enough
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 6:13pm On Jun 05, 2018
Martz101:


but i don't think chief mikel will want to play deep and some peep still believe iwobi is not good as a 10
So he'll tell the coach "No" if told ti play deep? You should rather say I don't think the coach will play him deep.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 6:14pm On Jun 05, 2018
mazimee:



Wow Brian Idowo, Ebuehi, Balogun and Ekong Must be Ghanaian Origin players that used their Ucles to get into the Nigerian National team.

As much as I don't like Echiejile for even one day, nor what happened to Aina, can you beat your chest in Affirmation and say that if Ola Aina was playing in NPFL that he will smell the National team? Truth must be said. There are Nigerian players in lower Leagues that if given the exposure and opportunity Aina was given, we will have a World class left back in our National team. Aina didn't grab his chance when he had it.

Ebuehi was rated lesser than Aina in the beginning. But Guess what? The guy no gree.
He grab his chance and made a strong statement with lesser match appearance than Aina needed to make his. The Match againts Dr Congo burried his Russian ambition, that match would have given him the ticket but he didn’t grab it.

You people are making it look like Aina is a Marcelo. Are you saying that the 5 other FB of Nigerian Origin are not enough inspiration?

Warris all this nonsense rants all about? Rohr is not even a Nigerian and everybody will not go to World cup. Na Sane, Niangollan, Icardi and Lacazete dem commot for World Cup squad list so, heavens never fall.

Warris all this?

yea Rohr didn't rate Ebuehi high, he got his chance and pass with flying color
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:15pm On Jun 05, 2018
SerVik:

When fullbacks attack, it is normal for DMs to cover for them. It is not a matter of leaving your role, it's a matter of covering gaps. As a matter of fact, some Nigerian coaches mistake this to mean that these players can play as fullbacks. We've seen keshi deploy onazi as a RB before and even Rorh used Ndidi as RB against Zambia. In a three man defense, when a wing back attacks, it is the role of the RCB and LCB to cover for them that is why you would always see azpilicueta temporarily take up the RB position when Moses attacks, but when it comes to the flat four back line, DMs conveniently do this.

What guardiola did this season was to reverse this system and have fullbacks slot in as DMs when the DMs attack.

Top post SerVik.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:22pm On Jun 05, 2018
Ogu has it but Nacho does it better than him. Simple.


Martz101:


the bolded looks like you are describing Ogu shot

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 6:22pm On Jun 05, 2018
safarigirl:
such players are best employed as super subs when you need a goal. They are not sure starters

Imagine you need a goal, but your most potent goal threat is already on the pitch?
(1) It's just like you're saying players like Hazard and Neymar ought to be starting games from the bench. Because these are also adventurous players just like Moses.

(2) What happened to having a potent bench personnel?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 6:24pm On Jun 05, 2018
Comprehensive analysis part 1

...................



After watching our England friendly again yesterday, here is my comprehensive reports of the match and players assessment




First of the block is our 4-3-3 formation which Rohr played in the first half. It wasn't a flat 4-3-3 rather it was a 4-2-1-3 where Onazi and Joel Obi were meant to shield the defence immediately while Mikel was to sit back behind our 3 attackers.

Ordinarily this setup should work if each man played his part well but unfortunately Onazi and Joel obi didn't and the whole team ended up paying for it.

Onazi in particular was terribly piss-poor in that match that it seems it was a deliberate attempt to by him to disorganize our play. Damn, Onazi couldn't stay in his position, he couldn't mark, he couldn't pass, he couldn't hold on to the ball, he was everywhere but no where in particular.

Several times he was caught out of position, and when we struggle to win back the ball and pass to him, Onazi will gladly gift the ball back to the English. The only time he made a successful pass was when he hurriedly returned a pass back to Joel Obi who initially passed to him because he was under pressure with 3 markers on him, but what did Onazi do?.. He passed back to Joel who was already choked shocked obviously the ball was stolen.

Onazi kept on leaving gaps after gaps for the English to exploit, he would rather do another person's job than do his. Several times Idowu and Joel will have their man marked only for Onazi to run in from nowhere claiming he wants to mark too. Mikel will go forward to press, and you will see Onazi chasing him angry

Now we won't be talking about this issue if he was winning these balls, no! Because while he is running, Before he gets to assist his colleagues and inorder to double team the opponent,.. Fiam!... The opponent has passed the ball straight to the same spot where Onazi is coming from, leaving behind acres of space and time for a damage to be done.

Again and again this repeated sloppy play was what Onazi kept on doing. It was terrible and an eyesore to watch. I wonder how he is going to remedy such shambolic display. He should be forced to remain in front of the two center backs please.

As for Joel Obi, that one was another error going forward. They were several times he sent balls forward which didn't connect with our Frontline. He always kick the ball so waywardly without end product. In middle and defense, it was a battle between him and Onazi on who will get more in each other's way.

He was busy playing what we call "anywhere belle face" football. Both on the ball and off the ball. He had no business clashing with Balogun because he should have seen that the ball was Balogun's to clear from miles away, he actually made us a laughing stock with that head clash.

If Onazi or idowu or Moses had the ball, instead of opening for a pass, he will rather bump into them. Likewise Onazi, instead of opening for a pass, he will go and bump or intercept the player with the ball. Honestly, Rohr should have dropped one of the two.

Henceforth, i will suggest that if Rohr will play a 4-3-3 then it should be a flat one and should not be a 4-2-1-3 triangle anymore because with the triangle, plenty spaces will be left behind our CM and DM.

Let it be a trio of Onazi - - Mikel - - Joel instead of

Onazi - - - - - Joel
\ /
Mikel

The flat 3 man middle will be better than a triangle 3 man middle.


But honestly, 3-5-2 formation should be our main formation going into this world Cup. We succeeded in qualifiers against African oppositions using 4-3-3 but it seems 4-3-3 isn't working anymore against the rest of the world.

Football is dynamic, if we are well suited with 3-5-2 against world oppositions then by all means that is what we should be perfecting now.

Most matches are won from the midfield, whoever controls the middle dictates how the match will go, and whoever dictates how the match will go will most likely (around 80% of the time) determines who wins the game.

Let Rohr stop the experiments and focus on our midfield play and 3-5-2 formation perfection because as it is we don't have any problems with our Goalkeeping, Defense and attack. Our problem now is the our midfield... I repeat!.. We have a big problem in that midfield of ours.

Presently the midfield doesn't link up and provide supply for our strikers, the midfield doesn't provide cover for our defenders.. The midfield is presently not doing its job and Rohr is supposed to focus there. The middle is responsible for our uncoordinated play for so many matches now. Onazi and Joel should be made to sit on the bench with their seat belt fastened!!

Let Ogu, Etebo, and Ndidi pair mikel there henceforth.. Enough is Enough angry This experimentation with Joel Obi or Onazi must stop, it has to stop!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:25pm On Jun 05, 2018
I won't actually because you asking this only shows your ignorance about some of our players. It is funny seeing someone who claims to support the Super Eagles ask such a funny question. Lol...




P.S: Off the top of my head, I easily recall five of his goals from outside the box right from his days at Man City till now for both club and country. This is why I find your question funny and pretty ignorant. Like you have not been following Nacho at all.


Martz101:


since they are many, just name 5 please

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 6:26pm On Jun 05, 2018
Martz101:


every ship need a captain to sail, mikel was suppose to be the captain...i was expecting some level of urgency.

mikel and rohr should have fired them on
was it not same mikel that have been tipping in the English team to win the world cup...

mikel really suffering from inferiority complex...still remember his reaction after he was elbowed by Giroud against France...something that would have Fetch the French man a card...he took it for fun.

mikel is not an aggressive captain. iwobi reaction that day...made me think twice...same player who has an affinity with England....could mean business when both teams played each other.....

that's the kind of player you need walk through tight rope

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:28pm On Jun 05, 2018
Not just him. Nacho and Ndidi are included too... These three are the Super Eagles young generation's big leaders going forward at this moment. With time, it will all come together.


Martz101:


his our future, i pray he continue playing for a top club
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gamaliel9: 6:31pm On Jun 05, 2018
I know Ogu has played more games in the national team than Iheanacho.....he also has more long range shots than him....even more goals from such shots than him....Ogu is the undisputed king of 20,25 yarders in the current super eagles,,,argue with Clarence Seerdof grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Olibboy: 6:33pm On Jun 05, 2018
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 6:37pm On Jun 05, 2018
ChrisKels:



I concur wholeheartedly, Iwobi is exactly what we need behind our strikers and the strikers should be players who play for the team and not one smelly rat urine that thinks he's bigger than the team.


Left for me I would drop that vicmo boy
emphasis should be placed on the kind ot striker to play upfront...not Ighalo kind of striker....but someone like nancho who can link up well with the lad...with good positional sense and good finishing.....

nancho and simmy should be tried against Czech...we have had enough of Ighalo.....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:37pm On Jun 05, 2018
The bolded is not even close to the truth. Is it because this is about Nacho again? Have you suddenly forgotten Ndidi is also a master at such hits but still falls short of Nacho's hitting techniques from range? Lol... This is really funny. Things I read on here sometimes really makes one wonder if some actually follow our players.



gamaliel9:
I know Ogu has played more games in the national team than Iheanacho.....he also has more long range shots than him....even more goals from such shots than him....Ogu is the undisputed king of 20,25 yarders in the current super eagles,,,argue with Clarence Seerdof grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 6:41pm On Jun 05, 2018
safarigirl:
not just smelly rat, smelly rat piss na wetin e call am.

Victor Moses go just dey cry if e read that kain fatal punch
It's pathetic to know that some folks including you don't appreciate the value of Moses. But Una day pray make he no get Injury
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:42pm On Jun 05, 2018
Also, Ogu has just one long range strike that resulted in a goal for the Super Eagles. It came against Algeria.

Nacho also has one of such from outside the box and it came against Tanzania. Rohr's first game in charge.


gamaliel9:
I know Ogu has played more games in the national team than Iheanacho.....he also has more long range shots than him....even more goals from such shots than him....Ogu is the undisputed king of 20,25 yarders in the current super eagles,,,argue with Clarence Seerdof grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 6:45pm On Jun 05, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Not just him. Nacho and Ndidi are included too... These three are the Super Eagles young generation's big leaders going forward at this moment. With time, it will all come together.





P.S: Off the top of my head, I easily recall five of his goals from outside the box right from his days at Man City till now for both club and country. This is why I find your question funny and pretty ignorant. Like you have not been following Nacho at all.



the supernerd will quickly give me details of tbe match he scored from out side the box.

most of his goals in mancity was inside the box
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 6:45pm On Jun 05, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
It's pathetic to know that some folks including you don't appreciate the value of Moses. But Una day pray make he no get Injury
it's pathetic that some folks, including you, think that Moses is a faultless god. The guy is a human being, he has his shortcomings and nobody is saying he doesn't make his own contributions, but wahala starts when you think the guy is beyond criticism.

When no be say he be Jesus....

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