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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 8:14pm On Jun 06, 2018
Icon4s:


My brother, those of us that have followed football since in the 80s would never be moved again by any form of defeat we see today.

See, World Cup preparation matches most times do not determine how well a team will perform. Trust me on this. This has been a common reoccurence over the decades.

What you just need to look at is the quality you have in your team. The ability of the team.


I am telling you I am not moved. I have seen enough of this team to rate them. The issue is if they can bring their "A" game.

do we see enough quality and ability in this team?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:17pm On Jun 06, 2018
At the front page thread some said that

"kanu said we re going to shock the world, are u sure its not this shock he meant?" "

I was rolling on the floor grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:19pm On Jun 06, 2018
Humility017:

and so what...because he qualified us means we should stick to clueless abi?
though zidane won 3 champions league in a row...he would have been sacked still if now fails to deliver...

consistency is the key....mere looking at rohr shows he needs help...the old man has lost it.....
and sanusi and co...still haven't gotten over the euphoria of the world biggest football tourney few days time....
Kaiii this guy. I fear you. So if the team does well tomorrow, what would you say? Rohr is king abi(cos you have echoed such sentiments before when the going was good). See the defeat doesn't say anything much to me but I've learnt a whole lot about the consistency of many posters here. Tomorrow if I read them singing praises I'd know best to take it with a pinch of salt.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 8:24pm On Jun 06, 2018
Same here. Simy's off the ball movement is top notch. Unfortunately, he didn't get any services because of the uncoordinated nature of our game today, especially upfront. I would like to see him start in Russia. Maybe, just maybe, Rohr has some jokers up his sleeves.


O pari

EagleScribes:


Best fit for me. I wonder why Rohr has not been trying out Simy. I prefer him to Ighalo

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:25pm On Jun 06, 2018
Belgium is over there having anal with our Egyptian brothers cry
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 8:27pm On Jun 06, 2018
Mujtahida:

Kaiii this guy. I fear you. So if the team does well tomorrow, what would you say? Rohr is king abi(cos you have echoed such sentiments before when the going was good). See the defeat doesn't say anything me. I've learnt a whole lot about the consistency of many posters here.
I don't even know whether I should be surprised by him or not....maybe because I have seem him have his panic attacks and then return to supporting the team

I just skipped his post because I knew it would be a long rant cheesy

Can't afford to be reading negativity mbok

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Afobear: 8:28pm On Jun 06, 2018
Odunayaw:
Call the team average all you like but onanate elsewhere concerning what is wack or not
permit me to rephrase




Average shit below average team
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SerVik(m): 8:35pm On Jun 06, 2018
I feel the problem with this team has always been the lack of a mobile box to box midfielder to link-up the defense with attack. Playing mikel - a slow player as AM means that a mobile midfielder has to literally take the ball to his feet due to his poor tracking back.

In reality, we have failed in this aspect. In the qualifiers, we made Ndidi sit while onazi roamed. Onazi is another immobile midfielder, so instead of moving with the ball, we resorted to long balls, some of which ended up outside the stadium.

Fast forward to our friendlies, we tried Joel in this role and it simply didn't work. We seem to think that we do not need a midfielder that can move with the ball, that we can result to passing the ball right from defensive midfield to attacking midfield. The irony of this is that, we have played against teams that play with compact midfield, that intercept those passes before getting to their targets, that is why we've been complaining that the team seem incapable of stringing 2-3 passes, because the moment they attempt a forward pass, it is almost always intercepted. What the team needs is a midfielder that collects the ball from the DM, moves the ball, creates space with his movements before releasing the ball.

Rohr saw this too that is why he deployed iwobi to this role. It was nice of him to pick up on this but the personnel deployment was wrong.
Yes iwobi moves the ball well, yes he beats his marker, yes he releases the ball when due but he doesn't have the gas to play such energy sapping role. Playing him there also denies the team of his valuable creativity upfront.

My humble deduction; Etebo should play that role, he was born for the role. Before you come for my head, I know about his supposed inconsistencies but those have come in matches where he was play in a restricted AM role. Etebo normally likes running. In the AM role, he doesn't run enough and so doesn't even use up half of his energy reserve. This excess energy that he doesn't let out makes him implode. Etebo has the trickery to evade his markers and he has the ability to release the ball when required. A midfield trio of ndidi-etebo-mikel should have been tried out instead of the Ndidi-iwobi-mikel. The good thing about that midfield is that during the course of the match, Etebo can also drift to the LW, forcing iwobi to move centrally just in front of mikel.

I believe that midfield combination is very flexible and can easily be tweaked as the game progresses. In Ndidi and Etebo we have a combination that have the energy to put pressure on opposition midfield and relieve the defense of unnecessary pressure.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 8:36pm On Jun 06, 2018
Hi, fam!
How long has it been?
Trust y'all are doing great.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gamaliel9: 8:37pm On Jun 06, 2018
When the setting is right
When atmosphere is right
When the whole world is watching
When tension id rising
When 8million dollars is at stake

The Eagles shall soar on the winds

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:38pm On Jun 06, 2018
Mujtahida:

Kaiii this guy. I fear you. So if the team does well tomorrow, what would you say? Rohr is king abi(cos you have echoed such sentiments before when the going was good). See the defeat doesn't say anything much to me but I've learnt a whole lot about the consistency of many posters here. Tomorrow if I read them singing praises I'd know best to take it with a pinch of salt.
the coach sticking with players we all know were not supposed to be in the starting 11 annoys me.....
why bench ebuehi for shehu and start Ighalo instead....?
this are glaring happenings we all know any reasonable coach should correct....
it is becoming obvious that the best formation we need adopt is the 3-5-2 formation abit we go with the other...iwobi shouldn't be deployed to the CM role.... or wing role...but the AM role or a free role to roam and team up with the striker when need be...mikel can be allowed play the CM should need be....

rohr players selection is killing this team...
sentiments attached to the old players is not helping matters..... just because some players played the qualifiers does not mean they can't be dropped if they don't measure up....
you saw hw abysmal elderson was today....

I attach so much emotion to football especially when watching the super eagles play.....and errors of this kind is more baffling
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:40pm On Jun 06, 2018
I saw it coming.... The absolute and complete meltdown menu before the mundial... Hahahahahahahahaha...

Chaaaiii... Even Sir Royalty A.K.A Sir Humility017 has been infected..... Have thou forgotten from whence we cometh? Ohhh...this meltdown is real and the hilarious trolls are cracking me up having a field day....

Na until June 16... Na here we go dey naa... What you think have been scripted for this World cup will be torn to shreds by the time June 14 arrives... Prepare to be blown away by surprises and "I never saw that coming" happenings... I do wonder how the meltdown was like before our first game with Bulgaria in 94 after losing most of the friendlies and also before France 98 after getting demystified 5-1 and even 3-0... Lol...




Me just viewing most of you all like....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:42pm On Jun 06, 2018
Abeg, people need to chill over this matchup. After all, a friendly will always be a friendly. The players after the match did not even feel any sense of urgency at all. Let it rest.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:52pm On Jun 06, 2018
safarigirl:
I don't even know whether I should be surprised by him or not....maybe because I have seem him have his panic attacks and then return to supporting the team

I just skipped his post because I knew it would be a long rant cheesy

Can't afford to be reading negativity mbok
A while ago you countered me by saying I was monotonous by calling out the excuses and the outcries. See, my mind is for us the regular posters to push back on negativity on days like this. Go to any front page thread on SE, it's usually negativity on steroids. This place is like an Oasis.

I am not unmindful of the glaring deficiencies in the team but we should remember we have created this thread to support SE. Arsenal and to some extent other clubs routinely disappoints yet week in week out the stadiums are full. Some come here only after we have suffered defeat.

Some of our posters are perpetually dark in their views. I like them or rather prefer them. The ones that I find disturbing are the ones who on palm Sunday sing 'Hosanna in the highest, Rohr is the best, Rohr is better than Keshi, he's the best thing to happen to Nigerian football' but on good Friday will cry 'down with him, sack him, crucify him,, sack him'. I fear such people. I prefer to have afobear near me than such guys.

It's not the defeat I am seeing, it is our attitude. And its not flattering at all.

I'm judging no one. Just my take on events.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:53pm On Jun 06, 2018
krattoss:
it's just same dreams bro, same dreams..

Abi their fans no dey dream to lift the worldcup?

Same Iran we played out a goalless draw in 2014?
Nigeria is no more than Iran and Saudi Arabia..

Its the hardest truth I have to accept, before I die in my dreamland

Compare the WC pedigree of Nigeria Vs Iran and Saudi Arabia. How many times have they qualified from the group stage? How many of their players play in top leagues in Europe?

Well, if you choose to lower your expectations on the team so as to avoid heart breaks , no wahala. I see it as a means of coping in the case they disappoint.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:54pm On Jun 06, 2018
Goke7:

do we see enough quality and ability in this team?
Yes. At least to qualify from that group.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chimzyblack(m): 8:57pm On Jun 06, 2018
SerVik:
I feel the problem with this team has always been the lack of a mobile box to box midfielder to link-up the defense with attack. Playing mikel - a slow player as AM means that a mobile midfielder has to literally take the ball to his feet due to his poor tracking back.

In reality, we have failed in this aspect. In the qualifiers, we made Ndidi sit while onazi roamed. Onazi is another immobile midfielder, so instead of moving with the ball, we resorted to long balls, some of which ended up outside the stadium.

Fast forward to our friendlies, we tried Joel in this role and it simply didn't work. We seem to think that we do not need a midfielder that can move with the ball, that we can result to passing the ball right from defensive midfield to attacking midfield. The irony of this is that, we have played against teams that play with compact midfield, that intercept those passes before getting to their targets, that is why we've been complaining that the team seem incapable of stringing 2-3 passes, because the moment they attempt a forward pass, it is almost always intercepted. What the team needs is a midfielder that collects the ball from the DM, moves the ball, creates space with his movements before releasing the ball.

Rohr saw this too that is why he deployed iwobi to this role. It was nice of him to pick up on this but the personnel deployment was wrong.
Yes iwobi moves the ball well, yes he beats his marker, yes he releases the ball when due but he doesn't have the gas to play such energy sapping role. Playing him there also denies the team of his valuable creativity upfront.

My humble deduction; Etebo should play that role, he was born for the role. Before you come for my head, I know about his supposed inconsistencies but those have come in matches where he was play in a restricted AM role. Etebo normally likes running. In the AM role, he doesn't run enough and so doesn't even use up half of his energy reserve. This excess energy that he doesn't let out makes him implode. Etebo has the trickery to evade his markers and he has the ability to release the ball when required. A midfield trio of ndidi-etebo-mikel should have been tried out instead of the Ndidi-iwobi-mikel. The good thing about that midfield is that during the course of the match, Etebo can also drift to the LW, forcing iwobi to move centrally just in front of mikel.

I believe that midfield combination is very flexible and can easily be tweaked as the game progresses. In Ndidi and Etebo we have a combination that have the energy to put pressure on opposition midfield and relieve the defense of unnecessary pressure.
Totally in love with this analysis.
We saw what Etebo did in the second half vs England, but it seems like Rohr was sleeping during the match.
I have said it before and I will say it again.
Ebuehi is better than SHEHU
Etebo must start in that midfield
IWOBI is the key.

in a 3-5-2 formation
Uzoho
Omeruo-Balogun-Ekong
Ebuehi-ndidi-mikel-Etebo-idowu
Iwobi- Iheanacho/ighalo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gamaliel9: 8:57pm On Jun 06, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
I saw it coming.... The absolute and complete meltdown menu before the mundial... Hahahahahahahahaha...

Chaaaiii... Even Sir Royalty A.K.A Sir Humility017 has been infected..... Have thou forgotten from whence we cometh? Ohhh...this meltdown is real and the hilarious trolls are cracking me up having a field day....

Na until June 16... Na here we go dey naa... What you think have been scripted for this World cup will be torn to shreds by the time June 14 arrives... Prepare to be blown away by surprises and "I never saw that coming" happenings... I do wonder how the meltdown was like before our first game with Bulgaria in 94 after losing most of the friendlies and also before France 98 after getting demystified 5-1 and even 3-0... Lol...




Me just viewing most of you all like....

I am not confused...my hunches are right....it will happen....i did not see the hunger of the qualifiers....Rohr is not hiding anything...when the time comes....people will be like this shocked shocked shocked
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:58pm On Jun 06, 2018
Icon4s:


Compare the WC pedigree of Nigeria Vs Iran and Saudi Arabia. How many times have they qualified from the group stage? How many of their players play in top leagues in Europe?

Well, if you choose to lower your expectations on the team so as to avoid heart breaks , no wahala. I see it as a means of coping in the case they disappoint.

I haved coped cos the tendency they re gonna disappoint is up to 80
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:01pm On Jun 06, 2018
Humility017:

the coach sticking with players we all know were not supposed to be in the starting 11 annoys me.....
why bench ebuehi for shehu and start Ighalo instead....?
this are glaring happenings we all know any reasonable coach should correct....
it is becoming obvious that the best formation we need adopt is the 3-5-2 formation abit we go with the other...iwobi shouldn't be deployed to the CM role.... or wing role...but the AM role or a free role to roam and team up with the striker when need be...mikel can be allowed play the CM should need be....

rohr players selection is killing this team...
sentiments attached to the old players is not helping matters..... just because some players played the qualifiers does not mean they can't be dropped if they don't measure up....
you saw hw abysmal elderson was today....

I attach so much emotion to football especially when watching the super eagles play.....and errors of this kind is more baffling
The consistency you ask from the coach and the players, you too should try do same. You ain't consistent. You are only consistent in being inconsistent. You go from extreme praise to extreme condemnation. Is it the emotions?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:03pm On Jun 06, 2018
Anyone who sounds pessimistic now as a means of gauging against disappointment just in case it happens but will begin showing apparent and bold faith in the team again when we win or do well instead of losing/disappointing is to me not an Eagle..... Person's more like a vulture or maybe a sparrow hawk.. Lol

Eagles don't gauge against anything... They are all in or not. They have a stand and do not stagger.


Icon4s:


Compare the WC pedigree of Nigeria Vs Iran and Saudi Arabia. How many times have they qualified from the group stage? How many of their players play in top leagues in Europe?

Well, if you choose to lower your expectations on the team so as to avoid heart breaks , no wahala. I see it as a means of coping in the case they disappoint.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gamaliel9: 9:04pm On Jun 06, 2018
I know the hunger is there..it was shown in the qualifiers and against Argentina...in due course....the players themselves shall rise to the occasion....and we shall see blazing hot football...Super Eagles in FULL FLIGHT

BELIEVE

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:04pm On Jun 06, 2018
gamaliel9:


I am not confused...my hunches are right....it will happen....i did not see the hunger of the qualifiers....Rohr is not hiding anything...when the time comes....people will be like this shocked shocked shocked
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by neezar: 9:04pm On Jun 06, 2018
Iceland says Hi wink

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:07pm On Jun 06, 2018
gamaliel9:
When the setting is right
When atmosphere is right
When the whole world is watching
When tension id rising
When 8million dollars is at stake

The Eagles shall soar on the winds
What 8 milion dollars again?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:09pm On Jun 06, 2018
You are right. Rohr is actually not hiding anything. He has only succeeded in creating the illusion that he is hiding something. Truth is he has already shown his cards once but the world didn't take notice.

Our opponents will focus more on that England game. That is the game Croatia took most seriously.

One thing I have come to realise at World cup tournaments is this. Match day is match day. Friendlies are just what they are.... Test games... We win or lose.. They are test games which will have no bearing on how a world cup goes.

If we go by friendlies, then Spain will be World champions at the end of Russia 2018.


gamaliel9:


I am not confused...my hunches are right....it will happen....i did not see the hunger of the qualifiers....Rohr is not hiding anything...when the time comes....people will be like this shocked shocked shocked
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 9:09pm On Jun 06, 2018
Mujtahida:

The consistency you ask from the coach and the players, you too should try do same. You ain't consistent. You are only consistent in being inconsistent. You go from extreme praise to extreme condemnation. Is it the emotions?

bro....when you expect a coach to do the right thing...and he keeps making same mistakes over and over again...
you self know...that you can't be doing same thing over and over again...in same pattern and expect a different result.
a coach shouldn't be scared to drop any player not living up to expectation....

ebuehi by now should be the undisputed RB.
still have reservations on why aina was dropped because he obviously cross better those 2 LB we currently have and as well link up with the attack well....

and why keep up with Ighalo....who last scored for Nigeria since...the Cameroon match in Uyo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PDPGuy: 9:09pm On Jun 06, 2018
In order to accommodate the "selfish/big man footie" of both V. Moses and Mikel, this formation would guarantee some defensive solidity for the team:

--------------Uzoho----------

---Ebuehi---Ekong---Omeruo---Idowu---

---------------Ndidi----------------

--------Mikel-----Iwobi---------

---Moses-----Simmy----Iheanacho----

The trio of Ndidi, Ekong, Omeruo, and one of Ebuehi/Idowu, when stationed in our own half, would prevent deadly counter attacks from the opponents from resulting in a goal. And Iwobi's willingness to drop deep close to the defenders in order to win the ball, is another plus in ensuring defensive solidity for the team at the mundial.

I'm not so sure if the 3-5-2 would work against the top sides i.e Germany, France, Spain. These teams are well-organized, unlike the Argentines who have fake DMs, and a shitty defense pairing of Macherano and Otamendi.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:10pm On Jun 06, 2018
Who noticed that Ghanaian spectator that ran into the pitch to disrupt play? grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:12pm On Jun 06, 2018
krattoss:

I haved coped cos the tendency they re gonna disappoint is up to 80
Kai... na wa o.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:13pm On Jun 06, 2018
I did ofcos... But seriously, is he Ghanaian? He was in GWG naa no? And did you see Ogu's reaction to that man's entrance? Hahahahaha

Finally Joebie is back... Was fun being Joebiell for a while eh? wink Next time, you can just mail the mods.


Joebie:
Who noticed that Ghanaian spectator that ran into the pitch to disrupt play? grin

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:13pm On Jun 06, 2018
Afobear:
I assure you one thing ,my mental state is sane but you will need some of your advice after the group stages when you start roaming the streets
You be weak troll. I even thought you are an adept in savagery. I am disappointed. So in all your trolling, na woof woof full your belle?. Odunayaw don finish you with soft blows. Oya go rest, Agyemang. You don try today. Ka chifo.

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