phase1:


Like I said, you are not expected to belive you and I know these things happen but you have the right to play ostrich.

As for being 'drivers'. The administrative status quo in the health sector is being challenged and we are not ones shaking. It is you the 'driver' who released tons of memos and letters during a strike that didn't affect you and that is not a sign of a 'comfortable driver'.

Things are definitely changing you'll agree with me.

phase1:


Nowhere in MDCN act gives it the power to accredit medical laboratory practice. The court have said so therefore it remains illegal for physicians to accredit a medical laboratory when they don't even know the constituents of Leishman stain or even the working principle of Gram stain reaction. It is anomaly that Nigerians will correct in due time.

Your personal lame hatred for JOhesu leaders won't change the truth.

phase1:


There is nowhere in the MDCN act that allows you to open a medical laboratory practice.
It only says you can learn 'Medical laboratory PRACTICALS in medical school.

Practice and practicals are different things entirely. Scientists went to court, argued it and won.

Stop misleading people. Only the MLSCN act 11 of 2003 allows anyone to do medical laboratory practice and that person is the Medical Scientist.
The reason why many of you are not in jail is because ministers of health who are always physicians always intefere with inspectorate jobs of MLSCN, PCN, Nursing councils to give you guys a soft landing. In one word 'impunity' is the reason why your illegalities thrive.

TempoJames:



You see why you can never be better than a pathologist?
I learnt everything about gram staining n lieshman's stain in year one. You are boasting of it after 5 good years. Idiots!
That is how a radiographer keeps diagnosing PiD once he/she sees fluid in d rectouterine pouch of douglas
That is how idiots calling themselves scientist keeps using HVS to screen Pelvic infections and always land up with staphylococcus. They don't know that HVS and Endocervical swab are 2 different proceedures. That u will never catch N.gonorrhea or C.trachomatis using HVS. I keep on getting results of Staphylococcus and E.coli(probably by fecal contamination of d swab) from a px with with all classical signs pf tuboovarian abscess with no urinary symptoms from idiots
Any doctor will prefer to work with result of a pathologist or radiologists than that of technicians who knows nothing.
To show u how dispensable u guys are....Buhari didn't even mention ur baseless agitations during his democracy speech. I'm sure the circular of sack notice was an order from d president. He only summoned Adewole to protect his political career.
To show u how dispensable u guys are, a classic hospital like LUTH only advertised for nurses to help dress wounds,chart tpr n dress surgeons b4 surgery. pathologists,pharmacologist,orthopaedics n radiologists could have phase out the other idiots.
The day doctors will stand to their feet and want to bring in d best standard practise and relativity (3:1 against d meacre 1.5:1) that is when idiots will realize the privilege they are abusing.

tardell007:
whats MDCN?

TempoJames:



You see why you can never be better than a pathologist?
I learnt everything about gram staining n lieshman's stain in year one. You are boasting of it after 5 good years. Idiots!
That is how a radiographer keeps diagnosing PiD once he/she sees fluid in d rectouterine pouch of douglas
That is how idiots calling themselves scientist keeps using HVS to screen Pelvic infections and always land up with staphylococcus. They don't know that HVS and Endocervical swab are 2 different proceedures. That u will never catch N.gonorrhea or C.trachomatis using HVS. I keep on getting results of Staphylococcus and E.coli(probably by fecal contamination of d swab) from a px with with all classical signs pf tuboovarian abscess with no urinary symptoms from idiots
Any doctor will prefer to work with result of a pathologist or radiologists than that of technicians who knows nothing.
To show u how dispensable u guys are....Buhari didn't even mention ur baseless agitations during his democracy speech. I'm sure the circular of sack notice was an order from d president. He only summoned Adewole to protect his political career.
To show u how dispensable u guys are, a classic hospital like LUTH only advertised for nurses to help dress wounds,chart tpr n dress surgeons b4 surgery. pathologists,pharmacologist,orthopaedics n radiologists could have phase out the other idiots.
The day doctors will stand to their feet and want to bring in d best standard practise and relativity (3:1 against d meacre 1.5:1) that is when idiots will realize the privilege they are abusing.
You think a doctor hates johesuites? Go to market places and hear market women dissect ur greed. I went to get somethings from d market. I eavesdrop many bad comments about u guys. How nurses abandon women during labour tagging her "lack of cooperation" untill complication arises and the run to call d doc. Yes the doc will always be the last resort when all hope is gone in d health system heirachy.
How medlab sci maltreats microbiologists and patients yet complain doctors are opressing them

Nigerians hate you guys.

TempoJames:
You are very funny my guy. You will always be a technician that you are.

phase1:


Gram staining and leishman staining are the basics of the fundamentals. Even a second semester 200 Level Scientist in training will prepare stained slides perfectly and tell you the working principles of stains even from Gram stains in Micro to Periodic acid Schiff in Histo. Yet I have seen resident physcians who are entirely cluesless about these procedures and there principles when they come to the laboratory. Yes many of them, not HOs but residents but they want to head the lab. How many of your physicians can prepare primers in molecular-based testing procedures? How many even knows the principle of Serum antibiotic assay by HPLC methodology?

Every Medical Scientist who knows his worth knows the difference, importance and peculiarity of Endocervical swab (ECS) and High vaginal swab ( HVS). They also know that Hematoxylin and Eosin staining is better for nucleus studies while Papanicolau staining will better reveal cytoplasmic properties of a pap smear for C-ca screening in the histo lab.

If you work in an organized health institution and get a ridiculous result you should take it up and seek redress by finding out the person who ran the investigation, go to the person's superior like the Chief Scientist or Principal Scientist. Investigations will be lauched and will help rid the labs of quacks and fake charlatans which your physician MDs employ in order to cut cost.

I did it during internship when an empty-headed arrogant physician brought me an EUCR sample during call in Fluoride oxalate bottle and expected me to produce results 'urgently' and sign out. I simple tossed the sample into trash bin, filled an incident report in incident register, filed recollection form served it to him and sent him back to the ward. He was too empty-headed and arrogant to be lectured so I saved my strenght and shut the lab door as he protested.

Lastly, there is no privilege being abused. All professions will continue to enjoy their autonomy regardless of what you think as obtained abroad.
Most of the succesful private lab I know make less than 17% of the income from physician's request. There are walking patients, Direct consumer requested tests and patient with pre-existing conditions who go to labs for follow ups, even other health professionals like pharmacists and nurses can educate patients to request tests like liver function tests and Eucr before taking some drugs that are contra-indicated in Liver or renal disease.

A private genetic testing lab in the US (not owned by physicians) 23andMe offer direct access testing for Genetic predisposition to diseases in the US to the global community without physician's request. How can they go bankrupt when they don't depend on you? The Scientists and technicians there don't need you.

Global healthcare is shifting from 'physician-centred' to 'patient/client-centred'. You either shape in or ship out.

TempoJames:



You see why you can never be better than a pathologist?
I learnt everything about gram staining n lieshman's stain in year one. You are boasting of it after 5 good years. Idiots!
That is how a radiographer keeps diagnosing PiD once he/she sees fluid in d rectouterine pouch of douglas
That is how idiots calling themselves scientist keeps using HVS to screen Pelvic infections and always land up with staphylococcus. They don't know that HVS and Endocervical swab are 2 different proceedures. That u will never catch N.gonorrhea or C.trachomatis using HVS. I keep on getting results of Staphylococcus and E.coli(probably by fecal contamination of d swab) from a px with with all classical signs pf tuboovarian abscess with no urinary symptoms from idiots
Any doctor will prefer to work with result of a pathologist or radiologists than that of technicians who knows nothing.
To show u how dispensable u guys are....Buhari didn't even mention ur baseless agitations during his democracy speech. I'm sure the circular of sack notice was an order from d president. He only summoned Adewole to protect his political career.
To show u how dispensable u guys are, a classic hospital like LUTH only advertised for nurses to help dress wounds,chart tpr n dress surgeons b4 surgery. pathologists,pharmacologist,orthopaedics n radiologists could have phase out the other idiots.
The day doctors will stand to their feet and want to bring in d best standard practise and relativity (3:1 against d meacre 1.5:1) that is when idiots will realize the privilege they are abusing.
You think a doctor hates johesuites? Go to market places and hear market women dissect ur greed. I went to get somethings from d market. I eavesdrop many bad comments about u guys. How nurses abandon women during labour tagging her "lack of cooperation" untill complication arises and the run to call d doc. Yes the doc will always be the last resort when all hope is gone in d health system heirachy.
How medlab sci maltreats microbiologists and patients yet complain doctors are opressing them

Nigerians hate you guys.

phase1:


Nowhere in MDCN act gives it the power to accredit medical laboratory practice. The court have said so therefore it remains illegal for physicians to accredit a medical laboratory when they don't even know the constituents of Leishman stain or even the working principle of Gram stain reaction. It is an anomaly that Nigerians will correct in due time.

Your personal lame hatred for JOhesu leaders won't change the truth.

MrBigiman:


They are in Lagos, Abuja and port Harcourt. Inform ur union. I remember the Union trying to oppress a pathologist in Ondo. When the security agency were done with the Johesu tout, they had to plea for a soft landing. Johesu misinterpreted the court ruling and that's d shame we find in Nigeria.

Radiographer started a similar move 2 years back. But after many were arrested by police for intimidating Doctors they retreated to their dirty shell.

No one can fight Medicine and Surgery, because that's d reason why there's the modern day hospital.

Unigrad:
I respect you.
A medical laboratory scientist always talk with fact.
If I open my mouth to tell you the errors done by this over too know set of professionals, well, time is coming when patients relatives will start to investigate the course of the death of their loved ones, then we will know who is who.

TempoJames:
No need to argue with a technician that knows nothing. I know u will want to argue that the chief lab technician that conducts the test and give diagnosis in verge to claim he knows what he doesn't was trained by a doctor. You are boasting of common gram staining and leishman's just imagine a technician.
The truth remains u'll always be subject to the lab HOD who is a pathologist(Dr). Have a nice time treating your headache.

TempoJames:
No need to argue with a technician that knows nothing. I know u will want to argue that the chief lab technician that conducts the test and give diagnosis in verge to claim he knows what he doesn't was trained by a doctor. You are boasting of common gram staining and leishman's just imagine a technician.
The truth remains u'll always be subject to the lab HOD who is a pathologist(Dr). Have a nice time treating your headache.

MrBigiman:
Tempojames is doing daunting job. It's difficult informing a helpless ignoramus. Seeing mild fluid collection in the POD and screaming PID has always being the way of radiographers, yet they moved from hospital to hospital trying to stop Doctors from carrying out sonography. It took their leaders being locked up at least 2ice before they retreated to their shops.

In Ondo, the state chapter of AMLSCN had the guts to seal a pathologist owned lab. The seal was removed and a fracas ensued, as thuggery is a silent weapon of Lab technicians. Thank goodness the Nigerian mobile police were responsible enough to arrest those hoodlums parading as union leaders. They never went close to that Lab again.

Nigerians will get wiser soon. Many are. A patients said "Doctor treat me jare, when I visit the lab now they will either say it's staph, coliform or Candida, I can't waste my money on them again"

phase1:


From experience Patient who run to the lab must have wasted money in physician clinics who extort them without doing any form of investigation and when they claim they'll simply pocket the money and refuse to give the patient a copy of the result as they don't their quackeries exposed.

There are occasions where I saw a widal tests result with 1/73, 1/47 titre values emanating from a hospital run by physicians. Laugh no gree me abeg.

If not for ethical issues I would have posted some of the ridiculous results herein.

TempoJames:


You see why you can never be better than a pathologist? I guess u never knew there is Acute and convalescent titre in widal test. What u technicians are taught is only the convalescent titre so it is either the patient has 1/160 or nothing. Idiots! You were never taught that u can get 1/20 as acute titre then if it rises to 1/80 after 2weeks(convalescent) then there is a 4fold rise and is significant.
Glorified technician! You ought to pay me for this lecture.
You never knew what causes most results to be upto 1/160 to1/340 is that most px present late so u catch them mostly at d convalescent(chronic) stage of typhoid. U see what differentiates a doc from a johesuite? A doctor thinks outside textbook. Outside Africa where px present early to d hospital u seldom see titre upto to 1/160....I know over here a glorified chief lab technician could be quick to rule out typhoid. Idiots!
Why px run away is that they don't like doing repeat widal when the result is below 1/160 .They go to a lab technician that tells them what they want to hear. A lab technician that will erroneous declare them negative n they go home treating stubborn malaria till they breakdown with pathognomic signs like Rosespots n intestinal perforations n run back to the hospital spreading falsehood that Nigerian doctors are quacks. The same doctor that is leading outside Africa where px follows the acumen of the doctor religiously.
E.g that result wic is 1/47 is the acute titre...if u repeat widal after 2weeks u may see 1/188 showing a 4-fold rise, if d px is actually +ve ....if its not up to 1/188 only then can u rule out typhoid. Lab technicians don't know this.
Standard practise is that u repeat widal after 2 weeks if it is not upto 1/160 n check for 4-fold rise. Boy!

0key2:


Good response bro! Are you a pathologist? You are well knowledgeable!

TempoJames:


You see why you can never be better than a pathologist? I guess u never knew there is Acute and convalescent titre in widal test. What u technicians are taught is only the convalescent titre so it is either the patient has 1/160 or nothing. Idiots! You were never taught that u can get 1/20 as acute titre then if it rises to 1/80 after 2weeks(convalescent) then there is a 4fold rise and is significant.
Glorified technician! You ought to pay me for this lecture.
You never knew what causes most results to be upto 1/160 to1/340 is that most px present late so u catch them mostly at d convalescent(chronic) stage of typhoid. U see what differentiates a doc from a johesuite? A doctor thinks outside textbook. Outside Africa where px present early to d hospital u seldom see titre upto to 1/160....I know over here a glorified chief lab technician could be quick to rule out typhoid. Idiots!
Why px run away is that they don't like doing repeat widal when the result is below 1/160 .They go to a lab technician that tells them what they want to hear. A lab technician that will erroneous declare them negative n they go home treating stubborn malaria till they breakdown with pathognomic signs like Rosespots n intestinal perforations n run back to the hospital spreading falsehood that Nigerian doctors are quacks. The same doctor that is leading outside Africa where px follows the acumen of the doctor religiously.
E.g that result wic is 1/47 is the acute titre...if u repeat widal after 2weeks u may see 1/188 showing a 4-fold rise, if d px is actually +ve ....if its not up to 1/188 only then can u rule out typhoid. Lab technicians don't know this.
Standard practise is that u repeat widal after 2 weeks if it is not upto 1/160 n check for 4-fold rise. Boy!

0key2:


Good response bro! Are you a pathologist? You are well knowledgeable!

phase1:


You are empty headed, widal titre values are gotten in double dilution values. ie 1/20, 1/40, 1/80, 1/160, 1/320. In endemic areas 1/80-
1/160 is usually adopted as significant values after studies are done on endemicity within that area.

What methodology did you adopt in your fake laboratory to obtain a titre value of 1/47 which then doubles to 1/72. Do you even know the meaning of double dilutions of agglutinnin titres?

Attached below is a study of widal titre values published in a reputable clinical Journal about endemic areas. Where the hell do it say you get a titre value of 1/47 and 1/73 in double dilutions. Mr man shut that your fake side lab, you've been murdering patients.


This is why you will keep being an idiot. After all the lectures you are still dumb. All you could do is to go and screen shoot nonensse you know nothing about from google. Even after I tell you that the 1/47 or 1/73 are Acute titres that will require a repeat widal test.
Case close I'm done educating an idiot.

phase1:
This guy reminds me of one Enabulele former NMA chairman who wrote a published article on the punch and mentioned that Neisseiria gonorrhea is a Gram positive bacteria sometime ago.

I thought it was just a little mistake until he mentioned it 4 times within the body of that article in a national newspaper. Enabulele claims to be a physician-pathologist who should head the Scientist but I bet you if you put a microscope before him he wouldn't be able to mount a slide properly and focus it.

Even a 300l Scientist in training will tell you all the Gram negative and Gram postive organisms if he jumps off from his bed and faces that question.

More reason why these physicians must be kept away from the laboratory as far as possible.

phase1:
TempoJames seriously most of you are overglorified dolts like I've maintained and your response in lame period. You goofed, admit it and learn but like most of you. You'd rather the patient dies than admit you are numbskulls even when corrected. Nigerians need to wake up and ask real questions when patients die due to your malpractices. The day they wake up is day many of will go bankrupt and end up in prison clothes after your lawyers have milked you dry trying to defend your malpractices.

If you were as intelligent as you posit, you would have simply typed the words 'Acute widal titres' and shown us journals where your ridiculous figures were confirmed. If you were able to get those figures in your laboratory, how then was the measurement done. What methodology dod you adopt. These are scientific questions that only a properly trained scientist can answer.

You see why you must be kept in your consulting rooms far away from the lab? Don't give up, keep trying to prove that an 'ordinary techinician' (Lol) like me has more intellect than you. I welcome it.

Moronic wardman!

TempoJames:



Show me the article and stop how idiotic you are.

TempoJames:


You brought the values 1/47 and 1/73. Then I handled them seperately. That should tell u that I am quiet aware they are seperate results.
You type like a wounded soul. I indicated widal test has both Acute and convalescent titre or you can call it paired sera but your liquefactive brain keeps exuding ignorance.
Now show me the article where a consultant said N.gonorrhea is gram +ve. Idiot!