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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 3:05pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
goldfish80:Chrisooblog said this much as you have just said: that we can impose our style if we become successful. The question is: how do we become successful when it seems we are playing the game the way Europeans have styled it? How do we disrupt the current template? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 3:08pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
Been a long busy day over here but this world cup got me going and doing all sorts of creative multitasking... lol.. Can't wait for the Kick off already... Meanwhile, From @OfficialFPL stats... Kelechi Iheanacho was involved in a @LCFC (Leicester) goal every 117.7 minutes last season #GoalsOriented. 3 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 3:13pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
Mujtahida:All na grammar, what do you think made Chelsea to become an elite club in the EPL after so many years in the woods, whether its physicality or athleticism you call it, you have to come with your own style to overcome the present masters of the game, even the Europeans had to come out with a system to counter the samba style of the Brazilians when they were becoming too difficult to beat 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by semid4lyfe(m): 3:13pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: Good decision by the Spanish FA. A disloyal employee must never be condoned despite the circumstances and repercussions of his sack. Spain will still do well. It's the same players and tiki-taka is in their DNA. Good day, everyone 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 3:14pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
Russia 2018 General Titbits Names of National team managers in this decade to have been sacked without losing a game.... - Sam Allardyce - Julen Lopetegui It is now 1 day and 44 mins to go to Kick off... Been a long count really We are almost there... 7 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 3:15pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: Nacho must start over Igalho. He is truly a gem. Him and Iwobi are a one-two punch. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 3:19pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
chrisooblog:You see them, why dem no call salah to pitch for them? Don't give a damn about their hosting right, glad they were dumped and hope amaokachi collected his full payment. useless people, no wonder they rejoined the African union after may years of pulling out earlier and to think they were begging to become a member of ECOWAS make me vex the more. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 3:21pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
Goke7:Well, it has to be a comprehensive approach. Only physicality will not do it. It's too limited to outwit Europeans. Why has cameroun who are typically jambody been beaten since 1990 ? We didn't play jambody in 1994. We played highly technical skillful football. Nigeria began to make her impact on World football when she shifted from the physicality that defined much of our game in the 80's to skills and finesse in the 90's. Amokachi had power but he was very skillful. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 3:24pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
chrisooblog: When last did Brazil employ a foreigner as their coach? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 3:26pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
How come only 2 continents have produced the countries that won the worldcup or am i wrong? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 3:29pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
Mujtahida: Exactly, power and skill is what we need, our present team has skills but limited power. The moment players like amokachi, amuneke, ikpeba, siasia, taribo, oliseh,mutiu left our national team, we have found it difficult to find players with both power and skill. The remnants left then were folks like Taiwo, osaze, even martins with all his power and skills couldn't do enough. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:39pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
brazilian coaches have learnt to apply some aspects of the european style without jettison the core samba but african coaches still haven't caught on they are still employing the ''oya enter pitch and show yasef'' reasoning in their coaching. whenever have you heard a nigerian or even african coach wow you with their tactical knowledge? somehow: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:39pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
Mujtahida: To become successful, we basically have to go back to the basis and fix our league from Amateur to the premier league. It might sound cliché but that's the only way possible to raise good players who can cause major upset in world cups with our style. South Africa toyed with the idea of having their national team play in the Psl a season prior to the 2010 world cup,it might sound unattainable, but such radical ideas might actually work. As Africans, we must be brave and push out our boats. This is one of the reasons I like the idea behind Chan. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 3:45pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
goldfish80: I love your use of the word brave! That was the hallmark of the Cameron team in Italia 90, Senegal in 2002 and Ghana in 2010. They were very brave sides and you see no sense of being jittery when they played in the world cup but for lack of very good experience those teams would have gotten to the final |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 3:45pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
Just watched Etebo's insta story. It seems like they're still making fun of Uzoho. I know its fun and games, but it should just stop. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danycrusoe(m): 3:53pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
Icon4s: For how long will they continue to bid and lose. They v been bidding for every single world cup since the early 90s and yet SA hosted the first African WC before them. I'm sure its money they spend to organize bids, they should rest for now and start again in may be 3 decades time |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 4:00pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
Goke7:which the Europeans effectively ended in Mexico 86 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 4:00pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
yes a strong league would be a start but you also need good competition to sharpen your players skills can that be gotten alone from facing enyimba, kano pillars, mamelodi sundowns, tp mazembe, al haly? i think forward thinking exceptional local coaches will be our redemption. look at south america top argentine coaches like simeone, pelligrini, pochentino. brazil as well produce exceptional coaches. some how the nff will have to start grooming coaches same way we do for our cadet teams. by the time we identify and train these exceptional local coaches who understand the philosophy of how we play we then ensure most clubs in the land employ these people. we should also put in place a fair system of genuine competition which ensures that the best succeeds. it's from this same pool of top coaches who did well nationally and intercontinental that national team handlers will be picked from goldfish80: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 4:01pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
Bolowolowo:Uzoho has no problem with it. He even tapped Kelechi for a comment. Kelechi was like "I think he's my brother, I don't have to say anything about his face." 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 4:02pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
chrisooblog:Brazil actually jettisoned the samba in 90 and 94 world cups.. it only made a cameo appearance in 98 and 2002 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:03pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: The accuracy of the MRI test is not in question. However, the baseline data used to make the deductions is. I suggest you do some research on that first, several published scientific journals are readily available. What MRI gives is near 100% certainty of what age range a person can not be in. That deduction is made from the test results married to the baseline data. That means it's indicative and far more relevant to the U17 set where bone fusion should not have set in. All things being equal. That's why it's effectiveness at U21 level is open to question. Add the variable of nutrition, environment, and race and absolute becomes impossible but indicative a very big YES. Add to all those variables the penchant for sharp practices within our officialdom. Then the case of a Nigerian origin player born in the USA failing the MRI scan becomes feasible. Particularly when they the NFF refused to hand over the test results for scrutiny. As a society age cheating is not unique to football but pervades every aspect of our life from police army service to government bodies and ministries indeed there are men married to women older than them without knowing. So I now bury the matter it's no longer relevant. Indeed this problem was birthed by European football associations in thier obsession with youth. As if youth was the only component for football quality and excellence. You get to 21 and you are almost dismissed as being over the hill if you have no pedigree. The association with youth and top football performance is absurd. If you are good age is irrelevant in my opinion. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 4:06pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
they have never jettison it they have just learnt when and how to bring it out of their locker asha80: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:07pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
Martz101: George played with Yobo in Sharks as a youth. At the time the options for RB where very limited and Abbey had showed good quality throughout his time in the SE. That's not the case with Echiejile he has consistently in recent times been way off the mark. Going to the world cup should be devoid of sentiment and only the best players should go. Echiejile is certainly not better than Aina and his experience brings no value to the SE. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by M7even(m): 4:08pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
Mujtahida: Well I think we can take a cursory look at the success of African teams in the cadet championship. African teams have always shined at the under 17 championship. Struggled at the under 20s and made remarkable success at the Olympics. Nigeria being the most successful of them all. The question then is how have we attained this success, despite all odds and the unfavourable conditions that churns out these starlets. One thing is certain the hunger to succeed is higher at the cadet level. Maybe it has to do with the obscurities and economic hardships these young stars come out from, sadly when they are at the peak they just fizzle out in the long run. The Hunger to win at all cost was largely responsible for us dominating the cadet level. Take it a little higher and look at the under 20 sides with the most successful being the Ghanaian team of 2009 with the likes of players like Adiyah, these same hunger and intensity in which they played was raw and beautiful. Same goes to the Cameroonian side at the world Cup where Africa was announced to the World . Fast forward down to 94 and 96 Nigeria announced itself on the bigger scene. Winning the Olympics with its style of football. Quickly we saw Cameroon do the same at the next Olympics. We have gone along way. But with time and hunger, we would surely win the World Cup. African teams just need to keep pushing and playing. Brazil recently won the Olympics football gold. Something Nigeria did eighteen years earlier. So I for one don't think it's adopting the European style that has strangled our development, I think we are just not there in terms of hunger for it. This would literally translate on the field of play. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:11pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
Martz101: Agreed Omeruo - Balogun - Ekong My preference in a 3-5-2 Formation |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 4:11pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
chrisooblog:sebastio lazaroni actually deployed conservative football in Italia 90 and was criticized heavily for it.. same for Carlos perrerra for USA 94.. the only difference was in USA 94 the had romario (and his combination with bebeto).. a lot of Brazilian fans will tell you that the USA 94 team wa boring to them.. they rate the 98 and 2002 teams better |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:12pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: That's why I would have Ekong on the LCB |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 4:14pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
gamaliel9:Not the first time actually. In '98 we qualified with a game to spare |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BOOMnaija(m): 4:19pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
Oya gbera! Eagles 3 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 4:19pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd:How precisely does this work? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BOOMnaija(m): 4:20pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
Awon backbone... 2 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 4:20pm On Jun 13, 2018 |
komekn: sentiment na your problem, Echiejile was not a bad left back afterall he was part of the defense that brought us the worldcup spot. i don't want to go into Aina and Echiejile argument again because it won't change anything. Abey george tried for Nigeria but i don't see how he was done more than Echiejile. George was not even playing for Championship side, he was swimming in lower league woth portvale while Echiejile played for french league with rennes and Monaco and also with Portugal league with Braga with loads of champions league exposure that's the career gorge Abey would have prayed for and if Aina get that kinda career he will be fulfilled. Oga free Echiejile |
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