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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 11:35pm On Jun 13, 2018
Icon79:
Safari, I can tell you right now that the so called psychic pig would be wrong. I pray and hope that Nigeria and Argentina makes it to the semi finals, but I don't see Uruguay and Belgium making it past the quarter finals.

Go write it down .... we'll revisit this post at the appropriate time.


O pari


I don't see them making it past the second round

We thought there were shockers in 2014 but we ain't seen nothing yet. This WC will be full of them
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:40pm On Jun 13, 2018
Mujtahida:

europeans better at dribbling? opinion abi fact? i still maintain that you did not grab the kernel of my write-up.
i used dribbling as an example and not that all of our game should center on dribbling. so what makes the bolded different from all i said? i guess you want to pick on dribbling and begin an argument on it but if you grasp what i wrote you wont center on dribbling.

I just corrected a notion and not picked something to argue about.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 11:52pm On Jun 13, 2018
Mujtahida:

so once we win the tide will change in our favour? what about the fact that Europe is basically the home of football- all the major leagues are concentrated there. dop you think winning will be sufficient to make our style dominant?

My stand is "consistent" winnings not "accidental" winnings

Hope you catch my drift?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by LieDetector(m): 12:04am On Jun 14, 2018
World cup starts today.




Hurray!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 12:13am On Jun 14, 2018
ladies and gents.

The moment we have all been waiting for...........

RUSSIA 2018

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 12:19am On Jun 14, 2018
Mickael2:



Seriously it touches me more than anyother thing. I'd have felt like a mad man if not that Oasis too grabs the fact that Siasia is close to everything we need. Some/most of our local coaches are only good enough for U17 people where ego is yet to set in. Look at Iheanacho's U20, IIRC Success came to the tournament a day or so before the first match yet he told the coach he wanted to play and the coach didn't check his ego and played him, in fact he ended up playing Awoniyi out of position. On a normal no African parent would behave like that, as a coach you need to be a tactician and a father to the players, that means you need to understand what they need and that is why top countries recruit local coaches. Isn't it funny that CAF coaching licence does not make sense, is it the Europeans that will teach us how to play football in Africa? Football did not start anywhere, just like you are black and naturally you can't have curly hair, so also you can't be able to do what the Europeans do. No African player can pass very well like Xavi, which is why Barca hardly waste their time recruiting African players. But no European is going to be as fast as Ikedia for 90mins straight, they naturally do not have that ability. All continents produce dribblers but obviously Africa produces a lot more than Europe because here nobody cares about the defender, only that fanciful winger who left 3 players in his wake, and the guy that scored the goal, that's how we work in Africa. So our advantages are, easily, our strength and our dribbling ability. Trying to imbibe a possession game will not make sense to us because naturally it isn't what we do, we do the direct approach to everything. So the sooner we realise that possession game, though it may be the norm, isn't our game. South Africa for example have almost all their players from the local league, the problem is that they tend to think that they are less African, they coach themselves in the European way trying to pass their way out, it may work in one or two matches but in the long run it won't work. Like I have said before, if Rohr was the team manager and Siasia the tactician going to this world cup, I would have applied for my leave, pay the 520k that I saw in one ad and go to Russia because I am sure we would be getting out of the group. Our problem is that our good local coaches almost always allow greed to take over them. For a moment just pause and wonder if Ike Uche or Obafemi Martins was our second choice striker in 2014, if Joel Obi had been the one entering that French game instead of Reuben, if Igiebor had been the player going in when Babatunde got injured, trust me had it been we utilised the proper tools we had France for dey go house, but even with only 11 players and 12 other farmers, Keshi got to the Round of 16, that shows you what we could achieve if we remove greed.


I don dey write too much sha because this is a topic that seriously appeals to me and it exposes our over-dependence on foreign stuffs and why we need to stop it.

Now i see why you talk down on our present team so much

Initially i thought it was hate... I thought you were just a naturally vile critic, an agent who just wished us badluck because your favorite player didn't make the team.

But now i know better, you so much love Nigerian football and by extension African football too

You want us to grow beyond this level, to dominate and rule the world in football especially considering how far we have come

Unfortunately, things have not turned out the way you expected. We are still mediocre at best, and to make matters worse, we as fans are celebrating this mediocrity... Lolz..

So it annoys you... It gets you riled up so bad that the team you love so much can't give you the kind of performance you desire from them... Therefore You can't even sit to watch them play.... Seeing them running around like headless chickens in direct contrast to how you expect them to play or perform is a pain in your ass!

You have lovingly criticized them so much without change or results that now you resent them. They dashed all hope of yours. It pains you so much that you can't watch them play 'cos its gonna be the same old story. Now they have ruined your Saturday evenings

Anyways, i believe you have wished in your silent corner for the day our results will change. You probably longed for such a day.

So let me tell you this bro

Look no further as soon enough, the tides will change and our boiz will in a not distant time from now give you the results or display you seek for.

I so much in believe that

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 12:25am On Jun 14, 2018
Mujtahida:

TheSuperNerd abi tbaba1234 please answer this our guest.

3 pm
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 12:26am On Jun 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:

Lol... him catch me as I dey try escape into my room...

Okay uhmmmm.. madam Esetim...

Opening ceremony is 3:30pm Nigerian time (also BST). 30 mins to the kickoff of the first game of the World cup.


Opening ceremony for just 30 mins? Wow

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BinaryLord: 12:38am On Jun 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Super Eagles camp update

@Samm Audu's Fifa Blog (FIFA.com)

Behold a unique tribute by the town of Essentuki to the Super Eagles of Nigeria! The specially manicured grass statue is a thank you for choosing the town as their Team Base Camp for the World Cup.
It stands in the heart of the little southern Russian town, so you can’t miss it when you drive to and from the town’s central business district. The sports minister of this town, meanwhile, has already predicted the finalists of this World Cup – Russia and Nigeria!

Thats our in-laws showing respect to Mikel n naija cool
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:41am On Jun 14, 2018
Mujtahida:
MY THOUGHTS ON THE EVE OF THE WC
since 2002 no country apart from european countries has won the WC(and more european countries have won the WC than any other country from other continents since the inception of the FIFA WC in 1930. while it can be argued that this is because europeans have proportionately more teams than other continents -could there be other causes?) could this be as a result of the fact that global football is tailored to suit the style, the nature and character of Europeans?
take this issue of pressing that has almost become the alfa tactics employed by most teams for example. it is about choking and pressuring the opposition when they(the opposition) have the ball. now i think this is what happened: europeans eliminated the dribble(yes dribbling is almost dead) because i do not see how pressing can be effective when you have a team of good ball dribblers. can you press maradona, or okocha or any team with a good number of dribblers like Brazil 82 team? they will just dribble themselves out of the choke and pass the ball to a team mate who is free from the press. just a moment of sheer individual brilliance, a sweet turn, a flick and dance with the ball and the whole press will collapse.but you see what europeans have done: they eliminated the dribble, clamped down on individual displays and erected a temple to the god of passing, passing, passing and laid more emphasis on team game.
europeans thrive on organization and efficiency: they hate anything disorganized which is how they regard anything free flowing(meanwhile africans want expressiveness and flair). check out classical european music, opera and the ballet dance. everything is timed and organized. the world of music was cold until africans and south americans(and it was still africans if you know your history)with the their toms toms, sense of natural rhythm and free flowing dance brought in the blues, jazz and pop culture was born. for the life of me i have tried to enjoy mozart, bach, handel and others but omo i still prefer the sound of the gong, ekwe, beaded gourd and talking drum. to the european ear african music is disorganized but as africans we know theres a method to that seeming "disorganization". our music is all about rhythm and improvisation.

my point is we must break away from this european model of playing football: we cannot beat them when it comes to an organized approached to football. no wonder xavi said that they understand football as a space-time concept. this is nothing but the scientific european mind speaking. the black man has no such concept. (thats why he cannot operate by the 24 hour clock). africans understand football as a dance, as rhythm, as beat, as robustness and vigour.
this is how we must play our football. we must play football according to our soul. we are africans and its not a matter of race- its a matter of an outlook on life which we can perfect and use to define our game.

my brothers i would appreciate your thoughts on this issue
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First of all, from what I deduced from your write up, is that, the reason Europe has won more world cup has to do with the fact that global football is tailored to suit the style, the character and the nature of the Europeans, and that Africans have to break away from this European model of football, if at all we want to win the trophy.

If this is so, I will agree with you on the fact that football has been tailored to suit the style of the European but I don't agree that this style has failed us because this same European style won us the Olympics, the AFCON, took us to the finals of the U20 and even recently won us the U17 World cup twice (Manu Garba & Amuneke tiki taka football).

The reason African have not really done well using Nigeria as a case study has to do with lack of winning mentality, ego among players, biased selection of players, consistency (which has to do life span of Nigerian players), disunity and the fact that Nigerian players are not in the best clubs in the world.


Although, a template for a style of play can be created and adopted before it is passed down on players at a very tender age but to achieve this, we mus have a functional and well equipt age grade academies that must be run by every clubsides that want to operate in any of our tier leagues.

These clubs and League must also be bouyant enough to attract and retain players from all over third World countries or other countries interested. And players from this league must be able to work straight into any of the top 5 leagues in Europe.

My point is that the financial aspect of it must be able to allow players stay for long to master this adopted style of play, so that even if these players go abroad to learn another style, they can quickly adapt to our style once they are assembled together. Else, anything short of this will not work and we will be forced to play only according to the European style.

However, Each European has different style of play. The Italians adopted park the motor and counter attack style of football and it won them the 2006 World cup if I am correct. In 2010, Spain adopted Cruff tiki taka football to win the world cup while the Germans subdued the world with their compact fast counter attack football and technology.

These styles of play didn't start yesterday, they ran it for years in their academy and even mastered it playing together in the league.


For me to win the world cup, we must either use the method that won us the Olympics, U17 etc or we develop our league and adopt a style of play.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 12:43am On Jun 14, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


How can someone put Obasi and Zaha in the same place when we are talking Cruyff, Michael Laudrup and Seedorf? By the way, I stated clearly that the South Americans top on skills. I do not know why you are bringing Messi and Ronaldinho into the debate.

I am saying Nigeria as a whole lacks behind when it comes to skills, compared to the Europeans. For instance, who can we compare skill wise to Martial or Pogba?

which European player is or was as skillful as Okocha
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by LaExpert: 12:49am On Jun 14, 2018
Jarus:


What will be the correct rating? Favourites? Contenders?

Dark horses maybe...just like Costa Rica was in the 2014 edition.

On paper, Nigeria has no chance of qualification though; but we shouldn't rule them out...and we should not also expect them to progress from the group anyway.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 12:53am On Jun 14, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


No need deceiving ourselves. Hazard was showing tremendous ability with the ball at a very young age. By Onyekuru's current age, he was known as one of the best skillers in the World. Media hype will not put tricks on the ball in anyone's leg.

when you are talking about Africa players forget age, the struggle to get to Europe is not easy.

For skillful players, do you know who Etim essien is?? what of sam okwaraji...etim essien was as good as jay jay...the media then were talking about Gascoigne and basten.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 12:56am On Jun 14, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Forget media hype and judge Beckham with your eyes. His ability with the ball was out of this World. Football did not have one like him before Beckham and doubt there will be another after him.

you are soak into the hype, he was not better than finidi George

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Esetim(f): 1:00am On Jun 14, 2018
TheSuperNerd:

Lol... him catch me as I dey try escape into my room...

Okay uhmmmm.. madam Esetim...

Opening ceremony is 3:30pm Nigerian time (also BST). 30 mins to the kickoff of the first game of the World cup.

Thank you.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 1:31am On Jun 14, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Forget media hype and judge Beckham with your eyes. His ability with the ball was out of this World. Football did not have one like him before Beckham and doubt there will be another after him.
which Beckham? Ability in terms of what? Skills? Techniques or what? Ur choice of players sometimes in giving instances sha...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by aodis: 1:33am On Jun 14, 2018
https:///94IuFQBTLl?amp=1

Pig predicts semi finalists at the World Cup!

Argentina ��, Nigeria ��, Belgium �� Uruguay �� .

Na wa!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by klexycole(m): 2:40am On Jun 14, 2018
Mehn! I'm excited! cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by optimist25(m): 3:05am On Jun 14, 2018
Chinedu obasi...john obi mikel....Ezekiel bala in their early dayz....how time flies

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mowah: 3:12am On Jun 14, 2018
aodis:
https:///94IuFQBTLl?amp=1

Pig predicts semi finalists at the World Cup!

Argentina ��, Nigeria ��, Belgium �� Uruguay �� .

Na wa!
Lol, this ain't gonna happen , when you study the world cup tree very well, you will realize that it's not possible for 4 of them to qualify for the semis , only 3 of them can make it at the same time. It's Just one of those fake funny news grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 3:18am On Jun 14, 2018
optimist25:
Chinedu obasi...john obi mikel....Ezekiel bala in their early dayz....how time flies
That picture should give an Idea of why only one is still ballin'
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by optimist25(m): 3:24am On Jun 14, 2018
Certitude:

That picture should give an Idea of why only one is still ballin'
Certainly....you can tell looking at their faces
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:03am On Jun 14, 2018
Certitude:

That picture should give an Idea of why only one is still ballin'

Obasi was still balling as at last season.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 4:24am On Jun 14, 2018
LaExpert:


Dark horses maybe...just like Costa Rica was in the 2014 edition.

On paper, Nigeria has no chance of qualification though; but we shouldn't rule them out...and we should not also expect them to progress from the group anyway.

I really don't think we have done anything or shown some inherent quality in recent times to make any analyst classify us as dark horse. You don't just assign dark horses based on history. The years we proved the dark horse - 1994 and maybe 1998 - the signs and inherent indicators were there.

Senegal and Morocco appear to be analysts' dark horses from Africa and that's justifiable.

Someone (Croatian coach?) mentioned Nigeria as a potential destroyer - unpredictable, difficult to understand team. That's more like it. But really doesn't take us from the no-hopers category like at least 16 other teams.

So I don't really think we are underrated by analysts.

But then as a Nigerian, I would really love my analysis to be wrong. I want Nigeria to defy all analyses (even mine, which unfortunately is also pessimistic) and go far, or even win.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:17am On Jun 14, 2018
We thank God for keeping us alive to witness another World Cup.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:46am On Jun 14, 2018
Nigeria's first captain, Etim Henshaw..

The Nigerian National team was then known as "the red devils."

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:30am On Jun 14, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Forget media hype and judge Beckham with your eyes. His ability with the ball was out of this World. Football did not have one like him before Beckham and doubt there will be another after him.
Beckham was trash ....Can you compare him to Dennis Bergkamp
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 6:30am On Jun 14, 2018
It is an honor to be alive today inorder to witness yet another world cup. Glory be to God the most high.

While the players were getting ready, me too was running round the clock to get prepared for this tournament.

I subscribed to bounty data, i got our Gen set fixed and filled it up with fuel already... No time for stories.. cheesy

Now i will say


LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!....... ......... (in Shang Shaung voice) grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:35am On Jun 14, 2018
hardwerk:
Beckham was trash ....Can you compare him to Dennis Bergkamp

How can you even make such statement. Bergkamp was good in his controls and finishing but Beckham added more to the Success Of the team. From his accurate long balls from deep to free strikers, to his accurate crosses, he was one of the best free kick takers ever. And then deadly with corner-kicks.

Bergkamp can not come close to David Beckham in any way.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:36am On Jun 14, 2018
hardwerk:
Beckham was trash ....Can you compare him to Dennis Bergkamp

Fill your eyes before describing Beckham as thrash.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QJMcaksnH0

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