raumdeuter:


This doesnt make any sense to me

Spain has always been divided and most people are either pro Spain or anti Spain

Lopetegui negotiated and agreed to be Madrid boss before Monday, Is there a crime in that?

The story was leaked out somehow whether intentionally or not

This isnt the first time a coach is signing for another job while still at the current job. Most career people interview and agree terms for new employer while at old employer

LvG signed to join Man Utd while still at Holland at World cup 2014, Conte signed to coach Chelsea while still coach or Italy at Euro 2016, Guardiola agreed to join City while still Bayern coach, Mourinho agreed to join Chelsea while still in Madrid, Mou agreed to join Madrid while still at inter

So I honestly don't get the rationale and throwing away the chance at a world cup because of this

If Spain doesnt win, then the whole nation will say, well, who knows what could have happened if we didnt sack the coach

Roland17:


Both players were born in Gelsenkirchen, Germany. This is not even a naturalization situation, consequently, their allegiance rests with Germany until they revoke their citizenship. Simple!!!

I support the boos they are receiving, they were immature in their actions. There is noting wrong in being pictured with Erdogan in my opinion, its the irresponsible use of "My president" that annoys the Germans booing both players.

Nihilstjnr:


What does America have to do with Turks and Germans ffs?

Also did they tell you Ozil and Gundogan had to hussle for German Kpali? Both were born and raised in Germany. It’s Nigerians who are running away from Buhari induced suffering that are willing to renounce anything remouncable- some will renounce their parents, children, even their Gender

. Raumdeuter that is as black as midnight agreed that he was an albino so he could get green card, so please leave all that one at the door, unless you were there with Angela Merkel forcing Ozil and Gundogan to only recognise German president.

Speaking of, since you’re in Yankee, then you should know about the multitude of Americans chanting ‘Not my president’ in the wake of the Trump electoral victory. YG and Nipseyhustle released a song literally called ‘Fück Donald Trump’. All the celebrities lined up to abuse the guy. Robert De Niro led a crowded hall of celebrities in chanting ‘fück Donald Trump’ at an award Gala. Nobody can deport them or send them no damn where. They are Americans.

I won’t advise you to join them sha. You know you had to renounce Buhari and Dino Melaye for that Kpali. If you even complain about go slow lasaan, FBI can bundle you straight and dump you at Ikeja-along sharply.

Lastly, I leave you with the words of Angela Merkel, the leader of this same Germany. When discussing the Ozil and Gundogan picture, she said:

"I'd like to think to play a good World Cup we need them all now, and they belong to this national team, and that's why I'd be delighted if a few fans could applaud them as well."



Lobatan. Alaga Germany ti soro...and you ain’t more German than her

Roland17:


LWKMD. Dayo don suffer for una hand.

Firstly, being a naturalized American is not a right, it is a privilege, one I am especially grateful for because of the numerous opportunities it has afforded me in life and I have no regrets about it, neither do I have to justify it to anyone.

The Robert De Niro you made reference to is of Italian descent, so after he denounced Trump did he refer to Sergio Marttarella as "My president" or did he show allegiance to Italy? You made reference to celebrities who have rejected President Trump, but, how many of them have bragged about a foreign president especially one who share the same heritage as "My President"? Americans can disrespect the president, however, hold the office of the president sacred.

Granit Xhaka and his elder brother Taulant Xhaka were both born in Basel Switzerland, but Taulant chose a different path by choosing to represent the Albanian national team and hold its citizenship while Granit represents Switzerland even though he is aware that his heritage is Albanian. Abeg where have you seen Granit defer allegiance to Albania? even though I would love to think he still identifies with his roots.

Ozil and Gunda made mistakes, they can apologize and move on or better still ask Merkel to renounce their citizenship and port to Turkey immediately.

raumdeuter:
nihilistjnr

They are both naturally born Germans who have parents of Turkish roots, at the point early in their career they had the option of choosing any of Germany and Turkey. Being born in Germany didn't force them to play for Germany players like Sahin and Altintop were born in Germany but chose to play for Turkey

Now choosing Germany and to fly Germany colors, then you cannot be doing "My President" especially at a time when there is a political impasse between Turkey and Germany.

I know Merkel has said they made a mistake and we should move on, That is my position as well. I think they made a mistake but not enough to disqualify them from play for the country.

But the German nationalists have a point especially about immigrants, The point is that they are never fully loyal to the new country and choosing Germany was probably an economic and better prospect for their career. Ozil and Gundogan are still prt of the crew that don't sing the National anthem

Nihilstjnr:


You’re reaching now.

Somebody took a picture with a Turkish leader and captured it “my president”, you say he’s being disrespectful to German president

Somebody recorded a goddam song saying Fück the current president of the USA, you still say they respect Presidential office.

From where I’m sat, My diagnosis is a case of double-standards...with a hint of Islamophobia

Roland17:


Baba,

You have just made a false allegation with your insinuations. I will not allow this argument degenerate any further. Your position is well understood.

PDPGuy:
World cup pop quiz:

Name the only African team to have won a senior FIFA men's world cup group?

FBS:
Not the one to judge people but me thinks, those two effed-up and especially with the "my president" shitzo. Not a very wise move going by the reaction from the fans. A lot of meaning could be read into that.


What I usually don't get is this, you live in a particular country, a citizen either by choice or birth, your career is progressing, your life is fine, why look for trouble?

PDPGuy:
The Soviet Union/Russia have lost three previous WC matches that were played on June 14.

Would today’s match be the fourth loss?

Nihilstjnr:


They’re also experiencing an injury crisis in defence.

I need some odds but I think I will stake on a Saudi victory. The Arabs nearly embarrassed Germany last week, so I expect them terrorise that makeshift Russian back line.

Should be an explosive game .

PDPGuy:


Yeah
If anything, I’m expecting a high-scoring game

Nihilstjnr:


Exactly both defences are weak, so im sure there will be a lot of shots in the game.

Being the opening game of the tournament, this is likely the biggest viewing numbers KSA will ever enjoy. Their players will be aware of this and will likely be balling hard in the hopes that this is their chance to blow up and go major.

Nihilstjnr:


They’re also experiencing an injury crisis in defence.

I need some odds but I think I will stake on a Saudi victory. The Arabs nearly embarrassed Germany last week, so I expect them terrorise that makeshift Russian back line.

Should be an explosive game .

Unlimited22:
I hear say we Wan sign Stefan Savic

hensben:
Good buy if you ask me. Sell drink-water. With Kante, Seri and Savic Chelsea will dominate midfield. Cecs, Loftus cheek and bakayoko as back up.

My bad. I thought u re talking about Sergej savic.

hensben:
Good buy if you ask me. Sell drink-water. With Kante, Seri and Savic Chelsea will dominate midfield. Cecs, Loftus cheek and bakayoko as back up.

My bad. I thought u re talking about Sergej savic.

hensben:
Good buy if you ask me. Sell drink-water. With Kante, Seri and Savic Chelsea will dominate midfield. Cecs, Loftus cheek and bakayoko as back up.

My bad. I thought u re talking about Sergej savic.

airmark:


Different Savic. I don't know what to say about our interest in him. Sometimes, he is too casual while defending.

raumdeuter:


Savic is a defender he used to play for Man City before he was shipped out to Italy

raumdeuter:
If you want a young defender from Athletico its Gimenez