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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by obaaderemi: 6:31am On Jun 17, 2018
Icon4s:


Going into that game, Croatia were the favorites considering the quality they have especially in the midfield.

I was expecting us to be on the back foot for most of the game and thriving on counters but we wrestled the midfield with them.

We didn't create too many chances but Uzoho didn't really make point blank saves either.

We were just unlucky with the own goal. That ball was not goal bound. Etebo's right foot deflected it in.

I expect us to give a better performance against Iceland.

Though Mikel didn't bring his A game but he didnt play as badly as peeps here make it seem. On people blaming Rohr for playing him in the AM position is it not the same player that played the position all through the qualifiers and was hailed by all? He has done well repeatedly in that position so it was a no brainer for Rohr to start him there.

Will it not be possible to start Iheanacho with Ighalo and put Moses and Iwobi on the wings like we did in USA94 instead of using a lone striker upfront and our wingers dropping back all the time to help in defense?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 6:36am On Jun 17, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Mikel that was seen pressing high up the pitch for most of the first half? undecided

He only tired out in the second after that second goal went in... He stayed deep and Etebo was beginning to bomb forward with his driving runs.

No no no... Mikel did enough. Part of the problem was this... Whenever Mikel supported Ighalo with the high press there was no one on the right hand channel to connect with both Mikel and Ighalo to cut out more passing lanes of the Croatians' build up from the back. It was always Mikel and Ighalo pressing high up.... This is because Moses was doing a great Job covering for Shehu.

Now Mikel and Ighalo kinda needed a Victor moses to connect centrally but he was not because he was trying to work his own magic down the right channel... Victor didn't play close enough to the box some tines and this kinda disjointed the flow from our midfield to attack on that side of the pitch. And this should not have happened had Iwobi stepped up to the plate and provided that missing link.

Ighalo played highest up the pitch... Followed by Mikel who some times was seen falling back to help build up plays in that first half. Mikel and his midfield lieutenants actually matched the Croatians in midfield.. You cannot dent that fact despite the loss. It is just that Alex Iwobi was not in his usual A Form of drifting centrally to effortlessly help Mikel and Ighalo upfront with Moses doing his things on the wings.

So trying to blame Mikel just because it seems nobody is talking about him is not right. It is not like we are scared to call him out.. It is actually just that Mikel did enough. I recall a fine pass he created through the middle for Moses which was blown away because Moses was looking for a PK. Sad.


Thanks Nerdie. It seems people just want to call Mikel anytime we lose. Mikel did Ok, but it's Mikel. Cats will always call him out.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:42am On Jun 17, 2018
Rohr had the balls to bench Onazi abi and start Etebo and we saw it justified!

Now let him take it a bit further to bench Ighalo and Shehu. It is a no brainer. What Ighalo failed to do all game, Iheanacho came in and brought some life into that attack having a half-chance shot taken and even created a fine chance for Musa. We looked more dangerous with Iheanacho after his intro and also with Musa.

As for Shehu, that lad is scared to cross and to open up as an outlet for more attacking plays. Ebuehi trumps him all round. Shehu dulled us on the right going forward even though he did make a few defensive clearances. We need to be more adventurous and daring and sadly Shehu is not! Ebuehi should come in.

How can we have more than two occasions on which an overlap and cross-in from Shehu would have caused mayhem in the Croatian box only for Shehu to act all timid when Moses wants him to open up and he chooses to turn and pass backwards. It is criminal. He should be benched. His dullness is the reason Moses was always covering for him too and playing too deep down that right. Moses could not link up as he wants with Mikel upfront and Ighalo further up because of Shehu. Frustrating!


Rohr must be brave and start our very best. Enough of accomodating "players because they played the WCQs bla bla bla."

This is the time for Mad Action with the very best we have. For once we actually had a better bench than what we had on field and Rohr didn't react well enough. Sad. We must do it right against Iceland from the word go because that game ehn..... That is the realest war of them all.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:45am On Jun 17, 2018
edi287:

Mikel is also guilty of lacking Mobility. Iwobi I'd better driving in...that's what we need.
Let Mikel dictate from deep

Not yesterday. Mikel was very mobile. Covered a large distance. Even helped in pressing the defenders.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 6:46am On Jun 17, 2018
Martz101:


they get your self out of Nairaland, you can't control who quotes you

You know i have refrained from name callling but it seems you lack the basic ettiquettes of communication. I have watched you engage everyone and it seems you like getting on toes ever since you got on this thread and basically, I am not sure what ur background is or who it is that offended you when you were growing up, but dude, its time you grew up and be matured. There are ways of engaging people without resorting to vituperations.

You need to learn communications 101.
Gerrrit?


Oh.... and grow up pleazzzzzzzze

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:46am On Jun 17, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Rohr had the balls to bench Onazi abi and start Etebo and we saw it justified!

Now let him take it a bit further to bench Ighalo and Shehu. It is a no brainer. What Ighalo failed to do all game, Iheanacho came in and brought some life into that attack having a half chance shot taken and even created for a chance for Musa. We looked more dangerous with Iheanacho after his intro and also with Musa.

As for Shehu, that lad is scared to cross and to open up as an outlet for more attacking plays. Ebuehi trumps him all round. Shehu dulled us on the right going forward even though he did make a few defensive clearances. We need to he more adventurous and daring and sadly Shehu is not! Ebuehi should come in.

How can we have more than two occasions on which an overlap and cross in from Shehu would have caused mayhem in the Croatian box only for Shehu to act all timid when Moses wants him to open up and he chooses to turn and pass backwards. It is criminal. He should be benched. His dullness is the reason Moses was always covering for him too and playing too deep down that right. Moses could not link up as he wants with Mikel upfront and Ighalo further up because of Shehu. Frustrating!


Rohr must be brave and start our very best. Enough of accomodating "players because they played the WCQs bla bla bla."

This is the time for Mad Action with the very best we have. For once we actually had a better bench than what we had on field and Rohr didn't react well enough. Sad. We must do it right against Iceland from the word go because that game ehn..... That is the realest war of them all.

Fully concur.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:48am On Jun 17, 2018
obaaderemi:
Will it not be possible to start Iheanacho with Ighalo and put Moses and Iwobi on the wings like we did in USA94 instead of using a lone striker upfront and our wingers dropping back all the time to help in defense?
what is possible is sending Ighalo back home.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:49am On Jun 17, 2018
This is the Gospel truth! In addition, Ighalo didn't offer menacing movements upfront. Mikel also created some chances and one of them was blown by another of our top players yesterday, Victor Moses who went to ground too easily looking for a penalty when he was meant to have made good use of that chance.



TheGoodJoe:
By the way, Mikel worked so hard and does not deserve the criticism he is getting. He showed lots of movement to influence the game and was over worked pulling shifts to help press the defenders of Croatia because Ighalo was not capable of doing it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by obaaderemi: 6:52am On Jun 17, 2018
Truidstar:
what is possible is sending Ighalo back home.
But Ighalo was lonely up there with no chance.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gustav25: 7:01am On Jun 17, 2018
FINALLY,After all the talks and bragging,some people got humbled
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:02am On Jun 17, 2018
Nope... wrong on two counts. The ball was heading off target and secondly, it did touch Etebo before going in. But take nothing away from Etebo. He was outstanding Yesterday and showed why Onazi should get a tighter seatbelt to stay really glued to that bench. cheesy

And you are right, we are still in with a chance but that is only if we start our best and bring our A-Game against Iceland. Iceland is far more disciplined than Croatia and will be super hard to break down.


raindodger13:



I agree with you on one thing, that own goal was not Etebo's fault. That was a well executed set piece that was on course to go in whether Etebo's leg was in the way or not. I don't even think Etebo's leg even touched the ball to be honest.

Other then that let's tell ourselves the truth we played bad yesterday. They we're playing area boy football, just passing that ball around and running aimlessly as if the purpose of playing football is not to score a goal. We can't keep coddling these guys. They're grown men that are being paid a fortune.

I know some people won't like what Im about to do but I dont really care. Although its looking very bleak mathematically we still have chance to progress. Croatia is in the driver seat with 3 points but its a 3 way race between us, Iceland and Argentina. If we win our next two games we'll be destined for the round of 16 with 6 points and there will be no way Iceland or Argentina can get over 5 points. It's a tough mountain to climb but it's possible, as long as Nigeria abandons the nonsense they played yesterday.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:04am On Jun 17, 2018
More like up there with no true movements. Ighalo flunked abeg.

obaaderemi:
But Ighalo was lonely up there with no chance.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Sheuns(m): 7:07am On Jun 17, 2018
I've always said the best set of players that should be taken for national honors are home based players. Our international players are average and get little or no playing time in their clubs. Imagine leaving Nwakali and Lokosa behind because you feel Mikel, and other mediocre players have experience. People playing in Chinese league that's not even as competitive as our own league. We should bone those foreign players and pick local ones. How can a country of over 180m people not be able to get 23 good and hungry players? Croatia and Iceland have far less population. Those our players are just doing big boy on the pitch, even Ronaldo and Messi didn't stroll aimlessly on the pitch. That Mikel is just a big waste, carry no 10 give defender.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:11am On Jun 17, 2018
Martz101:


Sir you wanted him on the bench until mikel get tired, me and icon04 was asking you what if he dont get tired, I'm one of the people that always talked about playing him in the number 10 role too
Way way long before you joined this thread we've advocated for him to be played in the middle. I only conceded to him being on the bench as a sub to Mikel when it was argued that Mikel is our best AM.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:11am On Jun 17, 2018
obaaderemi:
But Ighalo was lonely up there with no chance.
If you like create 20 opportunities for Ighalo; how many do you think he will convert? We got over 6 corner kicks, how many did he make an attempt to even sniff at? We played 9 and half against Croatia's eleven yesterday. Iheanacho did more in 3 minutes than Ighalo did in 70 minutes.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:14am On Jun 17, 2018
Sheuns:
I've always said the best set of players that should be taken for national honors are home based players. Our international players are average and get little or no playing time in their clubs. Imagine leaving Nwakali and Lokosa behind because you feel Mikel, and other mediocre players have experience. People playing in Chinese league that's not even as competitive as our own league. We should bone those foreign players and pick local ones. How can a country of over 180m people not be able to get 23 good and hungry players? Croatia and Iceland have far less population. Those our players are just doing big boy on the pitch, even Ronaldo and Messi didn't stroll aimlessly on the pitch. That Mikel is just a big waste, carry no 10 give defender.

I feel your pain sir, believe me I really do. Its not over yet. Let's be calm and not make rash decisions. We will have to do it the hard way.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:15am On Jun 17, 2018
Sheuns:
I've always said the best set of players that should be taken for national honors are home based players. Our international players are average and get little or no playing time in their clubs. Imagine leaving Nwakali and Lokosa behind because you feel Mikel, and other mediocre players have experience. People playing in Chinese league that's not even as competitive as our own league. We should bone those foreign players and pick local ones. How can a country of over 180m people not be able to get 23 good and hungry players? Croatia and Iceland have far less population. Those our players are just doing big boy on the pitch, even Ronaldo and Messi didn't stroll aimlessly on the pitch. That Mikel is just a big waste, carry no 10 give defender.

If it is big boy on the pitch, Mikel was not doing that at all. He worked his socks off. Watch there were times he was exchanging balls with the defence and times he was ahead of Ighalo pressing the opposition defence. That is covering the length of the field.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 7:17am On Jun 17, 2018
ChrisKels:


This post got more than 15 likes grin

Today the moniker dun give am bad name "white onigbinde" grin

Remember my reply to this post? Yes I said it, u guys were deceiving urselves.

grin


ChrisKels:
If the Eagles lose against the Croatians, I, Chris Josh Kels, will leave this thread never to return again.


My boys are good and I believe they will never disappoint me. Whoever gets selected will prove his mettle. Be it Shehu or Ighalo

#wakanda

Be a Man and keep to your Words Dude. You are tearing apart the Team now ba?! The same Team you believed they are good enough for the World Cup?!

Wawu!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:18am On Jun 17, 2018
Martz101:


what is there to say, iwobi can play in the flanks and the middle, but mikel is there, me and you ealry argument was about keeping iwobi on the bench until mikel is tired.

mind you few months before world cup, everyone including you believe mikel is the best person to play the 10 role, many believe mikel absent was the reason why we lost.

Sir what's you point really??

that iwobi should be kept on the bench?? because you have never believe his better than Mikel in the middle.

Like jay jay rightly said he plays in the wing in arsenal and he mustly drift in playing there, iwobi today didn't do that.

Big faaaaat lie. I challenge you to dig up just one of my post where I said Mikel is our best AM.
I have witnesses ooo cos I've long since last year after the Algeria match where Iwobi was ineffective from the wings began to call for him to be played in the middle. Joebie and I had many discussions on the point. Then some here used to argue:he is not matured, he has no eye for a pass, Mikel is the best in that position etc.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Sheuns(m): 7:20am On Jun 17, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


If it is big boy on the pitch, Mikel was not doing that at all. He worked his socks off. Watch there were times he was exchanging balls with the defence and times he was ahead of Ighalo pressing the opposition defence. That is covering the length of the field.

A number 10 that cannot create chances is that one a 10? I expected Rohr to have made two subs at the beginning of the 2nd half. Bring in Iheanacho to support Ighalo change formation but waited till 60min and did mumu sub. I don't see this team that played yesterday winning any points or scoring a goal. They didn't play like they came to win at all.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:20am On Jun 17, 2018
And what the hell will a lokosa bring??!! What exactly?

This is very very funny.

K.Nwakali was not even on the list of 30 so he could not even be considered. He is one for the nearest future.

Meanwhile, this is always how most of you guys talk. To you guys, The best players are those not there in Russia, the lokosas and the Nwakalis and co..... in fact you even say the home based players will do better... hahahahahahahahaha.... mehn, you are just being reactionary and emotional and I understand. Just go relax yourself because you obviously don't understand the magnitude of a World cup tournament.



Sheuns:
I've always said the best set of players that should be taken for national honors are home based players. Our international players are average and get little or no playing time in their clubs. Imagine leaving Nwakali and Lokosa behind because you feel Mikel, and other mediocre players have experience. People playing in Chinese league that's not even as competitive as our own league. We should bone those foreign players and pick local ones. How can a country of over 180m people not be able to get 23 good and hungry players? Croatia and Iceland have far less population. Those our players are just doing big boy on the pitch, even Ronaldo and Messi didn't stroll aimlessly on the pitch. That Mikel is just a big waste, carry no 10 give defender.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 7:20am On Jun 17, 2018
So I keep saying it, our biggest player is our weakest link. Moses was our most wasteful player, Etebo by far the best of both teams. I remember once saying we should let the older players play what they want and retire; Moses, Mikel would have retired at the next call up.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 7:23am On Jun 17, 2018
ChrisKels:


Dude have you any rope around there? Hang urself if u so hurt grin
What is this one saying undecided
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:23am On Jun 17, 2018
Sheuns:


A number 10 that cannot create chances is that one a 10? I expected Rohr to have made two subs at the beginning of the 2nd half. Bring in Iheanacho to support Ighalo change formation but waited till 60min and did mumu sub. I don't see this team that played yesterday winning any points or scoring a goal. They didn't play like they came to win at all.

We collapsed yesterday when Mikel left the field. He is a glue that holds us together. Mikel worked hard but he needs passing options. I hope Rohr does the right thing and start Iheanacho upfront and give Ebuehi the nod. With the forward movements of these guys, we will disorganize the opposition and create spaces to exploit.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:25am On Jun 17, 2018
What of the chance he created after chasing and winning the ball off Modric beautifully?

What of the pass he rolled into Moses' path but Moses chose to fall like a woman instead of making good use of the chance Mikel offered him?

And you say Mikel didn't create chances??!

What was Ighalo doing up there too??! Why was his movement off the ball so below par?

Mikel is not to blame abeg. He worked his socks off Yesterday. That is a fact.

Sheuns:


A number 10 that cannot create chances is that one a 10? I expected Rohr to have made two subs at the beginning of the 2nd half. Bring in Iheanacho to support Ighalo change formation but waited till 60min and did mumu sub. I don't see this team that played yesterday winning any points or scoring a goal. They didn't play like they came to win at all.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:25am On Jun 17, 2018
By the way I agree with Doctor Yazzy.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:26am On Jun 17, 2018
ChrisKels:


I made this post on the 6th of june and some empty brains were waging war against me but today all them eyes dun clear Lol grin
But you made it look like all that you said that day was a joke naw. Abi Icon4s was right when he said that you really meant all that you said and that the joke thing was an afterthought to do damage control after your received so much flak for your melt down.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:28am On Jun 17, 2018
Mikel will retire possibly after Afcon 2019. I cannot see a Mikel playing beyond that tournament. I don't even want it to happen. Afcon 2019 should be his final bus stop. He will retire a true legend.

But uhmmm... as for Moses... lol... he is still just 27. We will be seeing more of him beyond 2019. wink So just chillax grin


TheLoneCitizen:
So I keep saying it, our biggest player is our weakest link. Moses was our most wasteful player, Etebo by far the best of both teams. I remember once saying we should let the older players play what they want and retire; Moses, Mikel would have retired at the next call up.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Sheuns(m): 7:28am On Jun 17, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
And what the hell will a lokosa bring??!! What exactly?

This is very very funny.

K.Nwakali was not even on the list of 30 so he could not even be considered. He is one for the nearest future.

Meanwhile, this is always how most of you guys talk. To you guys, The best players are those not there in Russia, the lokosas and the Nwakalis and co..... in fact you even say the home based players will do better... hahahahahahahahaha.... mehn, you are just being reactionary and emotional and I understand. Just go relax yourself because you obviously don't understand the magnitude of a World cup tournament.




That's the problem we always have, we believe the local players can't do well in international tournaments cos we believe we have a poor league. Yes our league is poor but don't forget no one knows these guys, they'll play their life out just to impress the world and that'll make a difference. All the years we've been taking foreign based players what has been the result? They've not done any better. You can't keep doing one thing same way and expect a different result. That Lokosa you're shaming scored more goals than Ighalo last season. He was the top scorer of NPFL which we all know is hard to score goals in. Forget all the hype around the foreign based players they're useless and hardly get playing times in their clubs. Looking inward and local is our best bet, we'll get better players than those over fed ones abroad.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:28am On Jun 17, 2018
Odunayaw:
You're trying to feel good through the I-Told-You-So cliché? in 2018?

*face palm*
I'm not surprised.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Sheuns(m): 7:31am On Jun 17, 2018
TheSuperNerd:

What of the chance he created after chasing and winning the ball off Modric beautifully?

What of the pass he rolled into Moses' path but Moses chose to fall like a woman instead of making good use of the chance Mikel offered him?

And you say Mikel didn't create chances??!

What was Ighalo doing up there too??! Why was his movement off the ball so below par?

Mikel is not to blame abeg. He worked his socks off Yesterday. That is a fact.


Compare both 10s on the pitch yesterday. Fact is Mikel is a defender and not an Attacking Midfielder. He played most of his football as a DM in Chelsea, it's only here we see him as a Messiah.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 7:34am On Jun 17, 2018
Sheuns:
I've always said the best set of players that should be taken for national honors are home based players. Our international players are average and get little or no playing time in their clubs. Imagine leaving Nwakali and Lokosa behind because you feel Mikel, and other mediocre players have experience. People playing in Chinese league that's not even as competitive as our own league. We should bone those foreign players and pick local ones. How can a country of over 180m people not be able to get 23 good and hungry players? Croatia and Iceland have far less population. Those our players are just doing big boy on the pitch, even Ronaldo and Messi didn't stroll aimlessly on the pitch. That Mikel is just a big waste, carry no 10 give defender.


Now listen to yourself, all fairweather followers, you've never stated Mikel a big waste before today. Define competition, a league that is not televised is more competitive than global leagues? Ask yourself.


180M. What would you say to USA who aren't in the tournament, China who had no chance, India who had no hope. They have citizens twice that of Nigeria. Not mentioning Indonesia or Pakistan, that shows shortsightedness on your part.


Look at Argentina going for an underperforming Higuain over a proven 30-goal Icardi. If you're a displaying imprudence on things everyone can see, how will you judge the hidden things, brother?

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