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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:54am On Jun 17, 2018
'We're not just professional on set-pieces' - Gernot Rohr defends tactics, Mikel in Croatia loss



The Super Eagles were punished for their lack of coordination while defending set-pieces, according to the German gaffer

Nigeria's only undoing against Croatia was defending set-pieces and not the tactical approach, according to coach Gernot Rohr.

The Super Eagles failed to break their World Cup opening game jinx with an own goal from Oghenekaro Etebo and a Luka Modric penalty, both coming off mistakes from corner kicks, condemning them to a 2-0 defeat at the Kaliningrad Stadium.

The west African side have now failed to win their first games at the quadrennial tourney since the 1998 edition when they won Spain 3-1. Also, the goals conceded were the third and fourth off corner kick situations in their previous three encounters.

Rohr's choice of tactics was questioned by fans and pundit alike . But the German handler has defended the urge not to revert to a back-three, stating they did well in countering Zlatko Dalic's approach and, however, only missed being 'professional' from set-piece situations.

[b]"I think the organisation was okay. We didn't concede from normal play, we conceded from set-pieces," Rohr said after the game.

"Our system was okay. We cannot play with three when there is only one centre-forward, so we played with four because Croatia had three strikers. What we were missing today was to be more professional on set-pieces. Each game is different, we will see for the next game. We know we can play with three centre-backs but today was not that day.

Rohr also jumped to the defence of team captain John Obi Mikel - subbed off in the closing stages of the game after failing to exert his influence, and particularly failing to link effectively with striker Odion Ighalo.

"We play all the time with Mikel in this role of offensive midfield. It's was going well, we qualified and the team built behind them.

"I know he plays before in defensive midfield, in China he plays offensive and defensive. When we don't have the ball, everyone is defensive. Obi Mikel tried his best, it's not easy when you have to play against Modric and Rakitic when you see the clubs where they play and then the clubs where our players play.

On Alex Iwobi, he said: "Iwobi deserved to start the game, he had big work to do defensively against the right-back, he did it well, he had to work a lot, perhaps he was missing the energy for his offensive game.

"He did well, it was not his fault we lost the game."

Rohr still harbours hope that Nigeria can qualify from Group D, believing his side can muster four points off Iceland and Argentina - who played a 1-1 draw at the Spartak Stadium, earlier on Saturday .


"It's important to make at least four points to qualify. All is in our hands. Let's be positive and believe we can do it.

"We have the youngest team at the World Cup. Let them learn from this match and do better. We saw Iceland they are a strong team and they can do very well, but we know we can also do better."[/b]

Nigeria, rooted to the bottom of Group D with no point, face World Cup debutant Iceland on June 22.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/were-not-just-professional-on-set-pieces-gernot-rohr-defends/1mc95khwa4tg01an0gabopzqtm
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 11:55am On Jun 17, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Rohr had the balls to bench Onazi abi and start Etebo and we saw it justified!

Now let him take it a bit further to bench Ighalo and Shehu. It is a no brainer. What Ighalo failed to do all game, Iheanacho came in and brought some life into that attack having a half-chance shot taken and even created a fine chance for Musa. We looked more dangerous with Iheanacho after his intro and also with Musa.

As for Shehu, that lad is scared to cross and to open up as an outlet for more attacking plays. Ebuehi trumps him all round. Shehu dulled us on the right going forward even though he did make a few defensive clearances. We need to be more adventurous and daring and sadly Shehu is not! Ebuehi should come in.

How can we have more than two occasions on which an overlap and cross-in from Shehu would have caused mayhem in the Croatian box only for Shehu to act all timid when Moses wants him to open up and he chooses to turn and pass backwards. It is criminal. He should be benched. His dullness is the reason Moses was always covering for him too and playing too deep down that right. Moses could not link up as he wants with Mikel upfront and Ighalo further up because of Shehu. Frustrating!


Rohr must be brave and start our very best. Enough of accomodating "players because they played the WCQs bla bla bla."

This is the time for Mad Action with the very best we have. For once we actually had a better bench than what we had on field and Rohr didn't react well enough. Sad. We must do it right against Iceland from the word go because that game ehn..... That is the realest war of them all.

Even you? No amount of crosses would have made us score as long as it was Ighalo that was in that box.

You are playing a one man striker who is not known to be great with his head and you think lack of crosses was why we didnt score? I won't say more than that.

The few crosses we connected to were from balogun and only one weak heading from ighalo.

What was done with our 5 to 6 corners?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:55am On Jun 17, 2018
Odunayaw:
Where was this during the qualifiers?

A wise coach is flexible and understands that it is different stroke for different folks.

He had a plan that worked against the Africans, but tweaking now that the stage is a step higher, to get results, he showed he ain't as astute as earlier thought.

Did u see Portugal versus Belgium in the pre tournament friendly? Compare that Portugal side to the one that matched the Espanas, then u will see the different.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 11:59am On Jun 17, 2018
ChrisKels:


A wise coach is flexible and understands that it is different stroke for different folks.

He had a plan that worked against the Africans, but tweaking now that the stage is a step higher, to get results, he showed he ain't as astute as earlier thought.

Did u see Portugal versus Belgium in the pre tournament friendly? Compare that Portugal side to the one that matched the Espanas, then u will see the different.
All true but still doesn't buttress the point that he is a mistake.. You forget how bottom we were before he came?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:00pm On Jun 17, 2018
goldfish80:


Mikel played the no 10 role. If you struggle to create chances, the number 10 is usually held responsible.

If there s no movement up front, you can not blame the number 10. Today's football is so compact that it takes more Initiative to create chances than a number 10 creating chances by passing.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by diggz: 12:02pm On Jun 17, 2018
goldfi.sh80:
'We're not just professional on set-pieces' - Gernot Rohr defends tactics, Mikel in Croatia loss



The Super Eagles were punished for their lack of coordination while defending set-pieces, according to the German gaffer

Nigeria's only undoing against Croatia was defending set-pieces and not the tactical approach, according to coach Gernot Rohr.

The Super Eagles failed to break their World Cup opening game jinx with an own goal from Oghenekaro Etebo and a Luka Modric penalty, both coming off mistakes from corner kicks, condemning them to a 2-0 defeat at the Kaliningrad Stadium.

The west African side have now failed to win their first games at the quadrennial tourney since the 1998 edition when they won Spain 3-1. Also, the goals conceded were the third and fourth off corner kick situations in their previous three encounters.

Rohr's choice of tactics was questioned by fans and pundit alike . But the German handler has defended the urge not to revert to a back-three, stating they did well in countering Zlatko Dalic's approach and, however, only missed being 'professional' from set-piece situations.

[b]"I think the organisation was okay. We didn't concede from normal play, we conceded from set-pieces," Rohr said after the game.

"Our system was okay. We cannot play with three when there is only one centre-forward, so we played with four because Croatia had three strikers. What we were missing today was to be more professional on set-pieces. Each game is different, we will see for the next game. We know we can play with three centre-backs but today was not that day.

Rohr also jumped to the defence of team captain John Obi Mikel - subbed off in the closing stages of the game after failing to exert his influence, and particularly failing to link effectively with striker Odion Ighalo.

"We play all the time with Mikel in this role of offensive midfield. It's was going well, we qualified and the team built behind them.

"I know he plays before in defensive midfield, in China he plays offensive and defensive. When we don't have the ball, everyone is defensive. Obi Mikel tried his best, it's not easy when you have to play against Modric and Rakitic when you see the clubs where they play and then the clubs where our players play.

On Alex Iwobi, he said: "Iwobi deserved to start the game, he had big work to do defensively against the right-back, he did it well, he had to work a lot, perhaps he was missing the energy for his offensive game.

"He did well, it was not his fault we lost the game."

Rohr still harbours hope that Nigeria can qualify from Group D, believing his side can muster four points off Iceland and Argentina - who played a 1-1 draw at the Spartak Stadium, earlier on Saturday .


"It's important to make at least four points to qualify. All is in our hands. Let's be positive and believe we can do it.

"We have the youngest team at the World Cup. Let them learn from this match and do better. We saw Iceland they are a strong team and they can do very well, but we know we can also do better."[/b]

Nigeria, rooted to the bottom of Group D with no point, face World Cup debutant Iceland on June 22.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/were-not-just-professional-on-set-pieces-gernot-rohr-defends/1mc95khwa4tg01an0gabopzqtm


Cc Raumdeuter

I hope you dey see your useless German brother?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:02pm On Jun 17, 2018
Lol.... People shaa... All it took was just one loss in our first game to get the scoffers out to start claiming they have a good knowledge of the team bla bla bla....

Haahahahahahahaha... Even the pessimists are claiming awesome because they have been critical of Rohr bla bla bla... Omo... I also recall that they have been strongly critical of this team even when we did great. Bashing and always degrading players like Iheanacho and Mikel who are key to this team and key to any chances of us getting a result going forward as a team and now some are already falling for their nonsensical analytical approaches and seeing their words as true and amen... Abegiiiiii... I am not fooled.

Right from time, we have known this team can only function and deliver when we play to our strengths but when we choose to tow the path of conservatism tactically we hurt our ourselves. We played to our strengths against Argentina and ever since then we have not repeated such again because Rohr in his stubbornness and annoying conservative stance has refused to again build on that formation and personnel to keep us growing along that line.

But because Rohr has been annoying doesn't make any of us here better than him or know any better too. People who criticise Rohr and yet see nothing in Shehu's dull plays yesterday?? People who are satisfied with Ighalo as our top striker??! I say they are even worse than the stubborn Rohr... Their dislike for certain players in the team will also not allow them as coaches, if given the opportunity, to play to our strengths and this is the bloody truth so plsss spare me the bullcrap talk of some people here being critics of Rohr. We are all critics of Rohr... It is just that we all have different degrees to which we criticise the gaffer. We all have at one time or another stated some level of dissatisfaction with Rohr but we move on too because we cannot keep lamenting but must also support the team.

I have always questioned why we have never again tested that 3-5-2 with Nacho and Iwobi up top as we did against Argentina. We saw our best in that formation. And it can be built upon with the addition of Victor Moses to join Nacho uptop and moving Iwobi a bit behind to play dynamically and freely in front of a disciplined Mikel (who can dictate from deep and cover with his positional intelligence gained playing DM for over or about 10yrs at Chelsea) and a rugged and tactical Ndidi (who can win balls and feed our more creative midfielders).


Criticism is not when we downgrade what we have. It is in stating our weaknesses and how to fix it with the team's best interests in mind even when it means admitting that a player you personally don't rate is actually the right man for the job. It is easy to criticise but harder to admit the truth. The truth is Iheanacho is better than Ighalo and should start ahead of him. Ebuehi too should bench Shehu... We lack adventure down that right with Shehu on the field. Say it as it f**king is and stop coating the truth with rubbish and "I told you so..."

If you love the Super Eagles and indeed want us to win. You will look at the list of 23 and come up with a crack team in the best formation that can salvage this situation... And not just barking so called criticism from your high horses of coated pessimism.

I am #InThisRideForTheLongRun... I am no "I told you so" analyst or fan.

This team has a future. It does not all start and end here in Russia. Criticise with an aim to stating where the team can improve and be honest and truthful with the players that can actually make us better and stop coating it! We know the better results-oriented players in this team... Say it as it is!


In finality, look at those stats below.... We matched the Croatians but just could not assert ourselves in attack. We did ourselves in with two errors. Besides those errors, it could have easily been a draw or we could have nicked it if and only if we had more impetus upfront. Rohr's conservatism to stick to a misfiring and movements-poor Ighalo and a dull Shehu cost us. Take it or leave it. It is not about attacking any player... I celebrated Ighalo's birthday on here and charged him to shine didn't I? So it is not about attacking anyone... It is just about truthfully stating where our biggest problems laid. We had other problems but these were the most glaring ones.



In all, We know those who genuinely believe in this team and we will not be fooled. So thank you and keep having a great world cup... smiley

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:03pm On Jun 17, 2018
goldfish80:

Those pass completion didn't reflect on chances created and he was the most advanced midfielder.
Were you not the one who claimed the absence of Mikel was the reason Kelechi didn't get service against South Africa? Why didn't the presence of Mikel create chances last night?

Classic case of totally missing the point.

Against South Africa, Iheanacho made repeated runs to space to take advantage of the wide gaps created by the South Africans. Unfortunately, we did not have the midfielder to take advantage of Iheanacho's runs. With Mikel, we would have torn the South Africans to shreds.

In this case, the runs and movement were not made by Ighalo, so Mikel did not have the opportunity to using his passing range to our advantage.

Gerrit?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 12:04pm On Jun 17, 2018
Oasis007:


grin

Also seem you didn't pay Attention to several Posts I've made cautioning Forgiveness for over-grinding Matters?!

Used past tense verbs. He "was" an ardent supporter... Not he "is" an ardent supporter.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 12:05pm On Jun 17, 2018
You keep repeating this, which collapse did we collapse? Did we not concede 2 goals when he was on the field of play, how many did we concede after he left?

Collapse ko, calipso no. This is what happens when we support the eagles because of some certain players, we get blinded to their fault abd twist facts in their favor.
TheGoodJoe:


We collapsed yesterday when Mikel left the field. He is a glue that holds us together. Mikel worked hard but he needs passing options. I hope Rohr does the right thing and start Iheanacho upfront and give Ebuehi the nod. With the forward movements of these guys, we will disorganize the opposition and create spaces to exploit.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:09pm On Jun 17, 2018
We could have tried. Crosses coming in like rain in that manner can always result in one chance or the other for a strike to be made. It must not always be about connecting with the head. The ball could drop off a poor or desperate tame clearance and one hit from the in-running advanced midfielders or forwards like Iwobi, Moses or Mikel or maybe an Ndidi depending on their positioning when we are on the attack in such manner, could head right in.

Also, Balogun's came from a corner I think. Ighalo's was weak no doubt and from the flanks (left flank I think).

In all, crosses dropped more than four or five times repeatedly in the opponent box could or may result in a chance for a strike off a desperate tame clearance... Or an easy tap in..


somehow:


Even you? No amount of crosses would have made us score as long as it was Ighalo that was in that box.

You are playing a one man striker who is not known to be great with his head and you think lack of crosses was why we didnt score? I won't say more than that.

The few crosses we connected to where from balogun and only one weak heading from ighalo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:11pm On Jun 17, 2018
somehow:
You keep repeating this, which collapse did we collapse? Did we not concede 2 goals when he was on the field of play, how many did we concede after he left?

Collapse ko, calipso no. This is what happens when we support the eagles because of some certain players, we get blinded to their fault abd twist facts in their favor.

We conceded from set pieces but we were not over run in the Middle. Towards the end, it was a free flow from the Croatians.

Gerrit?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 12:11pm On Jun 17, 2018
ChrisKels:


Its a lie, thats just like saying Chriskels was the first guy that started clamoring for the German guys.

We all clamored for Tyrone, Aina, Odubajo and Ehizibue when we had a problematic RB. No one did it first or alone because that problem was obvious and we needed urgent solution to it.


ChrisKels:


Hahaha so u dey laf abi?? Next time surf ur Internet for more information. Dats by d way, how are u and ur household, I hope Jehovah bu Eze?

Ur boy (Ebuehi) seem to have been called up. Rohr must have been reading ur posts here secretly oo.

Keep it up sir but easy with arguments, na Dat one dey annoy me lol.

What do u make of Ogu's invitation (if he was truly invited) ? I think Rohr wanna see if he could do better as a left full back because I don't see him displacing any of our midfielders. A healthy Joel Obi would have been a better option IMO.

grin


The Above was a Response to one of Forgiveness' Posts.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 12:11pm On Jun 17, 2018
As I have always said, Mikel is too soft to be a modern day captain. I was expecting him to do more in organizing his players. More in confronting the refs for his poor calls etc. But baba just de smile.

When I sited Ramos as an example of what a captain is to look like you guys came for my head and said going Ramos way will defeat the objective of the game - FAIR PLAY. Look at how they want to technically take out Moses. So much for Fair play. Despite the introduction of VAR the officiating has not yet changed-same biasness.

Etebo got so many fouls. Same with Moses Balogun etc and none of them simulated enough to influence the ref. Moses will fall and still be smiling. Who will take you that serious.

Look at how Ronaldo led his own team. Plenty simulations with brain. One of the Spanish player Nacho or so wanted to get Ronaldo booked when he exaggerated a ball thrown at him by Ronaldo to throwing. But quickly Ronaldo washed his hand and off any prank the guy has in mind.

None of our players told the ref to go check the video. They were taking everything hook and line. We have a long way to go.

We cannot be smiling every match and expect victory against European teams when even the ref himself already has a preconceived mind that Africans style is all about physicality.

We need real simulations.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 12:13pm On Jun 17, 2018
ChrisKels:


Used past tense verbs. He "was" an ardent supporter... Not he "is" an ardent supporter.

grin

I was never an ardent Supporter of him. I noticed the past Tense, but chose to correct the Impression.

The Key Words; Did not. - you didn't pay Attention, not you don't pay Attention.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:16pm On Jun 17, 2018
ersonleads:

We can only win our next match playing 352
Was thinking he was gonna adapt to it in d second half. He should henceforth play omerou, ekong & balogun as 3 @ d back. Ndidi Mikel & iwobi @ d midfield (iwobi as ten, Mikel should support ndidi at blocking 4 to protect d back 3). Y ebuehi plays right wing back & moses plays left wing back. Nwankwo & iheanacho should play alternately upfront like dey did against Argentina in d friendly.

Simy Nwankwo will not offer enough movement up front. Either we go with Moses and Nacho which I feel is our most lethal based on running at the defence and causing trouble. Or we go with Iwobi and Nacho which I feel will bring out most combinative play when it comes to combination of passes to unlock stubborn defence.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 12:16pm On Jun 17, 2018
ChrisKels:


A wise coach is flexible and understands that it is different stroke for different folks.

He had a plan that worked against the Africans, but tweaking now that the stage is a step higher, to get results, he showed he ain't as astute as earlier thought.

Did u see Portugal versus Belgium in the pre tournament friendly? Compare that Portugal side to the one that matched the Espanas, then u will see the different.
the you don't change a winning team and formation is archaic and does not work again in modern day football. That's why coaches in their late fifties and above are finding it hard to catch up with the change. Mourinho is a testament to this.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 12:17pm On Jun 17, 2018
Oasis007:





grin


The Above was a Response to one of Forgiveness' Posts.





What has that got to do with him being the first and only one that clamored for him?

Yes Ebuehi is his boy as much as Awaziem and Uzoho are my boys but I will never credit myself as the person who forced the hand of the NFF over their invitations respectively.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:18pm On Jun 17, 2018
ChrisKels:


Chai Joe, if we dont stand for our team, who will?

In my hood I am called the fake Barca fan just because I root for any team parading a Nigerian footballer whenever they are pitched against my darling FCB. People know me too well as a staunch Eagles fan and they really dealt with me yesterday. Even people I bought drink to enjoy my team yesterday begin laugh me because I was clad in our new Jersey. I regret not sticking my ass home to see the match alone, my enthusiasm for the team and game sold me out. I drove off in anger and the guys had to board a taxi back to the estate. Come see yeye messages from my none Nigerian friends especially the Ghanaians and SA.

Now to flex Jersey wey I buy with my money na wahala all because of one stubborn coach. I want Rohr fired. This time I mean it.

I haven't been this sad for many years.

Hang in there. Rohr might adopt a more adventurous pattern in the next game.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 12:18pm On Jun 17, 2018
Oasis007:


grin

I was never an ardent Supporter of him. I noticed the past Tense, but chose to correct the Impression.

The Key Words; Did not. - you didn't pay Attention, not you don't pay Attention.


God have mercy!!!! Bia them send you?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:20pm On Jun 17, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Classic case of totally missing the point.

Against South Africa, Iheanacho made repeated runs to space to take advantage of the wide gaps created by the South Africans. Unfortunately, we did not have the midfielder to take advantage of Iheanacho's runs. With Mikel, we would have torn the South Africans to shreds.

In this case, the runs and movement were not made by Ighalo, so Mikel did not have the opportunity to using his passing range to our advantage.

Gerrit?
You will always find one excuse to give no matter what. After the South African game, you claimed Mikel was the missing link for kelechi. Now Mikel is here, you switch to Kelechi. The same Kelechi who have proved time and time again his inability to play as a single striker. Infact it was after his stinker against SA that he lost the starting spot in the Super Eagles till date.

It’s a disappointing result and performance, and we only had one effort on goal which was a looping header.

“Mikel needs to play deeper in the role he is used to with Chelsea and Iwobi needs to play in the middle.”....... Osaze
That's another quote from an ex international, pointing at Mike's failings. Do you know football more than Okocha and Osaze? Did you ever play for Super Eagles? If these guys are pointing finger at Mikel, who are you to suggest they are all wrong and you're right?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:21pm On Jun 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


Call a spade a spade. Etebo covered even more grass as an AMF and we all said that was not enough because his primary job was to create for the team so lets not say Mikel covered grass so he must be exempt from being our source of creativity.

To make the team thick. The criticism Etebo got against South Africa was that he could not take advantage of Iheanacho's runs. In the case of Mikel, he worked hard but in front we did not have movement. Different cases.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 12:23pm On Jun 17, 2018
ChrisKels:


What has that got to do with him being the first and only one that clamored for him?

Yes Ebuehi is his boy as much as Awaziem and Uzoho are my boys but I will never credit myself as the person who forced the hand of the NFF over their invitations respectively.

LMAO...... Guess you know the same Tyrone you preferred over Shehu as a RB was first suggested by Forgiveness?!

grin

You need to take a Break Bro. Did I say he had a Hand in his Invitation?!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:23pm On Jun 17, 2018
You added notes on corners...

Okay now let's try to get this... We wasted our corners because right from I can remember, we have not yet mastered the art of being threatening from set pieces like Cornerkicks. And it is sad. I recall many pages ago crediting Oliseh for improving that aspect of our play. We were deadly from indirect freekicks and corner kicks in his short tumultuous reign. But under Rohr we have only converted once from a corner against Cameroun... A dummy corner it was sef.


Also, in a corner kick, the opponent is organized enough to snuff us out and add that to the fact we are not threatening.

Now back to crosses...

In an attacking move down the flanks with the bold and adventurous fullback pushing into those pockets of spaces to run in behind and pick some crosses , the opponent won't be as organized as it is for a corner. It would be quick attempts by their available men at the back to clear the ball and there is a chance he could miss and we score, he turns it into his net... Or he clears it tamely and we capitalise and hit a rocket in....

...Or it could be akin to the fullback acting like an overlapping Onazi against Cameroun who found Nacho with a sweet low level headed cross after running in behind after opening up nicely for Victor Moses down same right... (This is what Shehu was meant to offer when we were in quick attack down that right at times... Ebuehi can offer this trait).
This is what crosses can do and how dangerous we can actually be from crosses.


somehow:


Even you? No amount of crosses would have made us score as long as it was Ighalo that was in that box.

You are playing a one man striker who is not known to be great with his head and you think lack of crosses was why we didnt score? I won't say more than that.

The few crosses we connected to were from balogun and only one weak heading from ighalo.

What was done with our 5 to 6 corners?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:26pm On Jun 17, 2018
goldfish80:

You will always find one excuse to give no matter what. After the South African game, you claimed Mikel was the missing link for kelechi. Now Mikel is here, you switch to Kelechi. The same Kelechi who have proved time and time again his inability to play as a single striker. Infact it was after his stinker against SA that he lost the starting spot in the Super Eagles till date.


That's another quote from an ex international, pointing at Mike's failings. Do you know football more than Okocha and Osaze? Did you ever play for Super Eagles? If these guys are pointing finger at Mikel, who are you to suggest they are all wrong and you're right?

I have told you people the same thing over and over again but you guys have continued with your false doctrine.

Iheanancho was good in the game against South Africa but the midfield failed in taking advantage of his runs. Yet you people want to blame Iheanacho for the midfield not finding him.

Now Ighalo offered little movement upfront and now you people want to blame Mikel for our conservative style.

Playing Mikel deeper means you guys want Iwobi or Iheanacho in attack midfield to support Ighalo because he is not capable of causing defenders problem.

It might work but it kills our three man midfield combos who can contribute defensively and keep us compact in the Middle. To take advantage of this, we need movement upfront. This was our problem, not Mikel.

When Iheanacho entered, with Mikel in the side, we were deadlier. It is so easy to see. Look at the window when Iheanacho attacked and tell me we would not have cause the Croatians more problems.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 12:30pm On Jun 17, 2018
Oasis007:




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You need to take a Break Bro. Did I say he had a Hand in his Invitation?!


Ok then, maybe Chriskels suggested Uzoho first. Kog45 can tell better.

Mind you, anybody could have done the suggestion firstly, its nothing to rave about.


Guy free me abeg grin Happy Sunday biko
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 12:35pm On Jun 17, 2018
Odunayaw:
I remember saying the same where I watched that match. Why the crosses when we are playing a tall team, no lay ups, nothing. The long ranging is why I watch the Zambians
As a pro, you don't have to go on break to receive instruction from your coaches to know what to do in such circumstance like the one we found ourselves yesterday. Moses and Mikel experience is nothing but shame. They couldn't devise another means through out the game to win. It was get the ball to the striker syndrome all through. Since that's what 4-2-3-1 formation is all about. I expect them to have resolved to hitting shots from outside 18 box and hope our strikers make use of the scraps. Since we couldn't break them down from open play.

The only threatening shot was the one Iwobi took that rebounded of a players leg. The Croats switched their styles so many times throughout the game. At first it was crossing for mandzukic to make use of. Then they decided to give him a pass and he returned he kept laying it that for them to shoot. They changed their corner kick style not once and so rendered our team confused etc.

In short we went into that game with just one plan. Hoof it to Ighalo. The World Cup is a war. You must have multiple back up plans for every battle.

The 4-2-3-1 was add for Rohr to tweak since we were chasing the game. That's why I like the 3 at the back formations you can always take out a defender for an attacker when in need of a goal. Not an attacker for an attacker.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 12:43pm On Jun 17, 2018
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by etebefia: 12:44pm On Jun 17, 2018
etebefia:
Sorry to say this but this might be the worst world cup outing for the super eagles, I don't see them scoring a single goal at the tournament.
Who is surprised at our lose to "not so good" Croatia? Who do you expect to win when the attack is so blunt? Who is your top striker? Ighalo! What is his record? Can he score goals? Has he ever score a brace? Can he even imagine score a hat trick? How many goals has he scored in his career (club and country?)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mybettingtips(m): 12:46pm On Jun 17, 2018
Yomiwayne80:
How a foreign TV channel described the Eagles

And some people here will want us believe the eagles played well but we're just unlucky..Same match we all watched abi another one


What we did all night was to string 4-5 back passes then launch and aimless long ball to Ighalo who is marked by 2-3 defenders. Win the ball from Croatia and repeat the process again.


Boring match, no tactics, no strategy, no plan.... Just hoof the ball up in the air.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 12:50pm On Jun 17, 2018
Rohrrrrr

Ogu, musa and Ighalo can come on as substitute.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:50pm On Jun 17, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


I have told you people the same thing over and over again but you guys have continued with your false doctrine.

Iheanancho was good in the game against South Africa but the midfield failed in taking advantage of his runs. Yet you people want to blame Iheanacho for the midfield not finding him.

Now Ighalo offered little movement upfront and now you people want to blame Mikel for our conservative style.


Playing Mikel deeper means you guys want Iwobi or Iheanacho in attack midfield to support Ighalo because he is not capable of causing defenders problem.

It might work but it kills our three man midfield combos who can contribute defensively and keep us compact in the Middle. To take advantage of this, we need movement upfront. This was our problem, not Mikel.

When Iheanacho entered, with Mikel in the side, we were deadlier. It is so easy to see. Look at the window when Iheanacho attacked and tell me we would not have cause the Croatians more problems.

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