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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 5:59pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: I beg to disagree sir. Okocha is a legend in the game. And you will agree with me that the duel you referred to involving Mikel and Modric, Modric beat him with his pace. I watched Mikel struggle with pace, something a speedster would av done with ease. Mikel played well yesterday but frankly, wrongly deployed against a formidable midfield of Croatia. If you ask me, since we knew that croatia boasts of a very robust midfield, I would have expected we played Mikel in front of the defence with Ndidi as he reads games better from that position. Even if we wanted to play the 4-2-3-1, it could still work but mikel is not a speedster (if only you know the distance you have to cover from one half to the other, you will know Mikel is not the man for AM) Play people according to what they are good at .... if you have to hurt some feelings, so be it. Now we see why some managers bench some players especially the result driven ones. Mikel has been conditioned to be a defensive midfielder for the last 13 years, it is only logical to see he cant keep up with the pace in the front 3 While I am not saying we could have beaten croatia last night, well it wouldnt at least be a bad idea if we didnt lose. Cos frankly Croatia didnt boss us in any way in my own opinion. The conservatism of Rorh at launching a full frontal attack on teams is what is costing the team. Plus i feel he doesnt wanna ruffle some feathers hence the constant featuring of some players even though their end products leave a lot to be desired of 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:00pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Well sorry the question was asked by one who doesn't understand Winger-fullback interplays down a flank in attacking transitions. ![]() somehow: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:01pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
That Mexican performance reminds me of Argentina Nigeria friendly. Looks like the "Nigerian Spirit" got the wrong stadium address. Na kallingrad you suppose go no be luthzinski stadium |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 6:03pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
phreakabit:No I'm not. You can not call a DLP a "10". 10s are Trequestira and create much closer to goal. Xavi creates from deep. You can have CMs. When Elneny plays with Xhaka, both don't bomb forward as much as Ramsey does. So its obviously a tactical thing. Xavi is closer to a Regista than a 10. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 6:05pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: Says a man who still cant answer why his definition is limited to just the eagles even though both teams played the same formation ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:06pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Uhmmm... I am sure you witnessed their first major duel where Mikel beat Modric by robbing him of the ball down left flank and creating one of our first chances from the left of attack. Mikel matched Modric. I observed their battle keenly from the word go. As for Okocha. He is a legend yes and legends too can be wrong. As for the rest of your comment. I have already addressed further options for our Super Eagles midfield with Mikel stepping back into CM playing closer to Ndidi (DM) as a connector and depelying playmaker while allowing Iwobi the freedom to roam and penetrate as the AM. But on Mikel, he did okay. It is not his fault Ighalo flunked. Ighalo was so static upfront with his poor off the ball motion. Very abysmal. Mikel also created good chances but we were just unable to get them on target. kennysville: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:06pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
goldfish80:na wa. you are really a nigerian.we do not see the world as it is but as we are. nigerians see sentiments whether in the form of tribalism or favoritism in everything to the extent that they even use it to interprete the actions of other countries. go and read 'Das Reboot: How Germany Won the World Cup' and you will find that right up to their first match Germany had fears about the fitness of this same Neuer(i dont understand this talk whenever a goalkeeper is scored and you guys come out to say all this things. now this is not Uzoho yet you basically saying the same thing. dem no go sccore goalkeeper again? haba) Lahm, Shweinsteiger, Khedira,Klose all had fitness concerns and yet they went ahead to win the WC. here's an excerpt from the book on the above point But the ‘no compromise’ line was quietly shelved as key players Manuel Neuer, Philipp Lahm, Bastian Schweinsteiger (all Bayern Munich) and Sami Khedira (Real Madrid) turned up in northern Italy in varying states of unfitness. Doubts over the physical shape of veteran striker Miroslav Klose after a season with little football at Lazio added to the pervading sense of uncertainty. Instead of being able to rely on his team’s spine, Löw was staring at a team sheet full of question marks. Neuer, the outstanding goalkeeper, had hurt his shoulder in the DFB Cup final and missed the first days of the training camp, along with the consistently excellent and versatile Lahm, who was nursing a complicated ankle injury. ‘There were days when I couldn’t run in straight lines,’ recalls the captain, sitting in his agent’s office in Munich’s fashionable meatpacking district. ‘The team were already in Italy, yet I was still with the doctors in Munich. They were saying that they couldn’t really tell me anything because the scans looked so strange. Everything was swollen.’ i dont trust the analysis of most of here abeg. the most shocking is:when a goalkeeper concedes one will hear all sorts of unreasonable. for you to narrow germany's defeat to sentiment on the part of the coach shows that you know nothing about the German character. Germans are the most unsentimental people. you are just projecting nigeria into germany. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:07pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Still harping the same song mister. Just accept you are ignorant on this one. It is still okay. You don't know because you don't know. This is why you hail a poor offensive Shehu. Please allow me to speak on better matters if you refuse to understand simple football concepts. Thank you. ![]() somehow: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by klexycole(m): 6:08pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Bolowolowo: Hmmm, thoughtful. Let's hope for the best sir. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 6:08pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
kennysville:Mikel should have been deployed deeper yesterday. I don't understand why people aren't seeing this. We got away with it at the WCQs but I always knew it'd be difficult in the WC proper. We needed Iwobi and Etebo ahead with Ighalo to press while Mikel dictates from deep. We know Mikel's stamina is poor so why make him have to drop back deep anyways when he can start from deep, save his energy from running up and down and dictate?? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:09pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
I know much about the Mexicans. Thank you. somehow: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:11pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
dem no go score goalkeeper again? for fvcksakes this is Nueur not Uzoho. this tells me that it makes no difference to you guys who is in the GK. once a goalkeeper concedes una go begin spin one untenable reason or the other. look at what basco was saying yesterday about Uzoho and now even an internationally outstanding Goalkeeper as Nueur is being given the flak. i ask again:dem no go score goalkeeper again? 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by phreakabit(m): 6:12pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
edi287: This is absolutely ridiculous! The terms you use are just terms created by Italian tacticians! They do not apply generally. Elneny plays as a CM with Xhaka in the absence of Whilshere! When Xhaka is absent Elneny becomes the 4! Okocha played as a 10 in a 4-4-2 formation, but was always deep in the midfield and pushed the attack from the depth! Just to illustrate =======================9 =================8 (SS/CAM) ====11 ========================== 7 ============10 =========================4 PS: You might want to check Arsenals forum goonersworld.co.uk to ask what Xhaka actually plays as. He is a DM, a piss poor one though. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:12pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Russia 2018 General Titbits From @OptaJoe: 3 - This is the third consecutive World Cup in which the reigning champion has failed to win their opening match – Italy drew 1-1 with Paraguay in 2010, while Spain lost 5-1 against the Netherlands in 2014. Hangover. #GER #WorldCup
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 6:12pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: When you answer the question, i will decide to either accept or reject your label. We played 4:2:3:1 same with the crots,how many of their crosses came from their RB? How come it was Modric and Rakitic that did the crosses and passes? Let's be serious, can you answer this? Since you think you know the role of a RB in a 4:2:3:1. There is no FB or RFB in a 4:2:3:1. Pls its very simple to grasp. In all of my comments, i haven't hailed him nor did i hail anyone else, i only said expecting him to do the crosses when we had a Moses bossing that wing is unfair. How come Rohr only get to use Ebuehi in a 3:5:2 formation and not the other way round? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:13pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: I seriously faulted Okocha on that his comment of Mikel being accommodated in the team. He even answered out of context on what Zola asked him. Zola wanted to know which role(position) Mikel will play in the team. Very simple question. Okocha started saying all those accommodation stuff. Making it seem as if Mikel has been a burden to the team. His answer simply shows his level of knowledge about that team. He left Zola gazing because he didn't address the question. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 6:19pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: You're getting worked up already, it's just a friendly conversation. Lets end everything here then. Enjoy your day bro. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:20pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
goldfish80:what was the french run of friendlies before they won the WC in 98? poor, poor poor. the french press even called for the sack of the coach. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:20pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Thank you very much Chief Icon4s... Okocha is a legend yes but I am also no novice in football analysis. Even on this matter, Oma akatugba, a top journalist said, "I respect Okocha as a legend yes. But I respect myself more" Okocha uttered total nonsense. Mikel is key and a leader in our midfield. We don't speak of having him in the first XI because he is just captain or the most experienced... Or just to accommodate him... NOOOOO!!! And again Noooo... We need Mikel because he brings calm and stability to that middle whether as an AM or as a CM in a deeplying role. And no one in this team right now does it better than him. EOD. Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JoebieII: 6:21pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
@ bolded.. thank you! komekn: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 6:21pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Icon4s: i think that was done intentionally , cos he kept hammering on why Iwobi was played out of position ... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 6:22pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: Mikel matched modric ![]() ![]() ![]() TheSupernerd abeg give me DT meme wet one woman open her mouth for one ceremony ![]() ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:23pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Bolowolowo:undoubtedly we were. i hate tepid football so much 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 6:24pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
edi287:not with Ighalo again please... why can't you guys see that...the dude is a clueless when it comes to goal scoring... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:25pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Sorry no meme for you Joker... ![]() ![]() elyte89: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 6:25pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
phreakabit:In a 4-3-3 i.e Barca's 4-3-3, Xavi is not a "10". He isn't a regista either but is closer to that than a 10. Arsenal are obviously using Xhaka wrongly. Just because he plays as the deepest midfielder doesn't mean he has ALL the defensive responsibility. At Mochengladbach, he had a CM in front of him who did the dirty work and broke up play. A 10 is creative player who plays closer to goal. Xavi is not that. A 6 can be creative fulcrum, a 8 can be a creative fulcrum as well. In Barca's 4-3-3, you do NOT call Xavi a 10. Playmaker yes. 10 - no |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:25pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
goldfish80:hahahahaha hahahaha. i guess there are many goldfishes in the french football pond. na joke oo |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 6:26pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
somehow:every one is angry bro...including me... I don't mind canvass for the sack of rohr should he make same line up in our next two match and we get to loose.... don't wanna call him a serial failure not until then... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 6:27pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Humility017:Yep I agree. Ighalo has seriously been thrash. Movement has been poor. Can't take players on. If he isn't doing any of that, then we might as well play Nacho because at least Nacho is a much much better finisher |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:29pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
You are thanking him now but when we mention such a super talent with BIG HEART playing in same Odogbolu he will remind us that he has not played top level football in the top 5 leagues and does not deserve an invite to the national team. Funny... Very very funny. He mocks top young Nigerian talents like K.Nwakali and S.Chukwueze.. Players with the heart and the talent to add value in future to the team and plays down their quality. Now he is here talking Odogbolu and you sef dey thank am... I am just watching you all. JoebieII: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:29pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
edi287:same pain here bro. the Croats will be surprised at how easy the game was for them |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Spy360(m): 6:30pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
phreakabit:Your understanding of football positions is obsolete brother. Xhaka is not a DM. He is a playmaker for Arsenal. Wenger does not usually deploy a DM, which !explains why his team is so defensively exposed. What superned is trying to explain is what most managers apply today. Mikel would have easily bossed that midfield had he played deeper. Iwobi is better off as a CAM that a winger as he tends to play with the ball close to feet. A 3-5-2 formation without Shehu but with Iheanacho could have matched the Croatians better. |
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