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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 7:00pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Mujtahida: In Neuer, we are talking of the best goalkeeper in the world in the past 5years atleast. I have seen him pull off miraculous saves that makes me believe even that goal conceded today may have been saved in his prime. Don't make it sound as if I'm blaming him for the goal, because I'm not. I saw your comment about Uzoho and some other postulations. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:00pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
JoebieII: I dont think there is any. Just the 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 variants. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 7:00pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
goldfish80:to the point of being fouled in our 18yard box? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:00pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
I am not talking player vs player. I am talking of bringing in players that can inject fires into the team and make it stronger as a unit. A team of big heart warriors is what I am driving at. Komekn says even if you are in Odogbolu it doesn't matter, what matters is the heart and mentality/determination.... That playing at the WC is motivation enough... But he will do a 360 degrees turn when talking about our own young top talents showing these traits even though they may not be in the Big Five leagues just yet. This is why I find it all funny and ironic. The composition of a team of winners is not always gonna be a cast of those in the best sides... It will sometimes or most times have those special young players who bring a lot to the team yet are still rising in club football and even those maybe even playing football in some obscure league. JoebieII: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Spy360(m): 7:02pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
edi287:Nacho any day bro. To be honest I haven't seen much of Simy, but the little I have has impressed me a lot. I love his drive. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by obaaderemi: 7:03pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Lucque:Are you sure you watched the match? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by phreakabit(m): 7:04pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Mickael2: OMGoodness! i done nearly piss for cloth! ![]() ![]() Barcelona played 4-3-3 Iniesta, plays on the left side of the midfield as a CAM. Rakitic has NEVER played in that position, even when he was in Sevila. What are you talking about? Rakitic was bought to replace Xavi. Sergi Roberto was actually suppose to replace iniesta as he is a natural CAM, but he is considered not good enough, and thus has to settle for the RB position in place of Semedo. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 7:04pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
phreakabit:And you are missing my point. In a 4-3-3, there's nothing like a "10". You can't call Xavi a 10. I told you he was closer to a Regista than a 10 in this 4-3-3. He is a playmaking "8". That's my point. There isn't a 10 in a 4-3-3 and a 10 doesn't SIGNIFY playmaking in general. It is simply used in a 4-4-2/4-2-3-1. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:05pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Thesame perennial problem of gifting the opponent too much room to operate keeps plaguing the Super Eagles.One could see how the Super Eagles players wouldn’t close down the Crots and giving acres of space for them to easily pick out passes,even in set-pieces. Mario Mandzukic and another Crotian player were left unmarked in the area where the ball was floated to enroute scoring their goal. The only Eagles player shielding the goal from these two was Etebo, and even at this, it wasn’t at close quarters.This gave Mandzukic the priceless gift of that free flying header to force an Etebo own goal. It is the more sickening that this problem of gifting the opponents too much room to operate has been well noticed and vaunted, but with nothing done to mitigate it. I remember even Messi once pointing it out of the Nigerian team. Conversely, the Croats were closely man-marking our players and smothering them of freedom of expression on the field of play. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 7:06pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Mujtahida:It just occurred to me Kevin Trapp, Psg's second choice keeper made the German squad. Care to elaborate on why he was chosen ahead of an inform Leno? If we eliminate the word sentiment. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 7:15pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
goldfish80:Low simply starter Neuer due to his reputation. Neuer has a fear factor that Ter Stegen doesn't possess as of yet. I didn't watch the game properly so I don't know how well he played. As for Sane, he doesn't do well in the NT. It also didn't help that he missed the Confederations Cup and Brandt was great at it. Sane wasn't going to replace Reus. When Reus is fit, he plays |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:16pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
maputohq:Na nacho own go worst pass. The solution is ri play twin strikers with an attacking midfielder behind them. We will surely create more chances. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:16pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
goldfish80:If dem put that goalkeeper and he was scored you'd say something as to why he was scored. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 7:18pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
goldfish80:Leno case is complex. He and Ter Stegen have a big rivalry between them so apparently it was a choice between him or Ter Stegen. Ter Stegen has obviously had a better season so he dropped Leno and took Trapp instead. Not too much of a loss as Leno isn't that great and is very error prone |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 7:18pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Icon4s, remember yesterday, I said we would concede, we just needed to outscore. them. As soon as I saw Ighalo in Rohr's line up, I lost faith because I knew that we would not outscore them. If I say I am not disappointed, I am lying. I rate our team worse than the Saudi team sef, because Russia at least worked for their own goals and scored themselves. We CREATED goals for Croatia, we dashed them two goals and couldn't even pull one back from an honestly, terrible team So many of us on this thread especially, stuck our necks out for those boys, and both the boys and Rohr slapped us in the face. If they couldn't play for themselves, they could have at least played for those who had faith on them. How do you just lie down and take rubbish? No fight, no spirit, nothing. We would have done better assembling kids from oshodi and Mushin in that world cup, because those kids would have had FIGHT. These shaku shaku boys and Rohr, just disgraced themselves. We can blame Rohr for wrong tactics and fielding players in the wrong positions, but it was Etebo who scored an Own Goal and Ekong who gave away a penalty. It was Ighalo who could not fight for balls, it was Shehu who was too scared to cross. It was Moses who was falling over when he needed to stay on his feet, it was Iwobi who shriveled and hid when he most needed to take flight, it was Mikel who failed to show true leadership when he needed to step up Rohr failed and his boys failed 10 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 7:19pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Icon4s: also i think he has so much in his head and made those comment out of emotion ... he must be very angry , cos he lacked what to comment at some point , that was why he went off the question ... and Zola OPENED HIS EYES WIDELY ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JoebieII: 7:20pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Firstly, he had said our players are average. So you need to look at the context here.. We've gone past selection. The best thing we can have now is team spirit driven by determination. It's the individual player's determination that makes the unit, granted, but there is no guarantee that they -- the individuals -- would always bring what you know them for. Secondly, the Super Eagles may not be good in pressing. But let's ask ourselves, how do these players play for their clubs? TheSuperNerd: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 7:20pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Cortinho's signature ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:21pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Coutinho doing what he does best from outside the box... What a thunderblast! Brazil in front... ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:22pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Ballers will always be ballers ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:23pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
goldfish80:A fit Neuer never conceded such goal before? I am making this points because we make it look like for all seasons and for all games a goalkeeper should not concede. Your point being that sentiments made Loew field a not so fit Nueur who conceded because he was not fit. And I say that's too simplistic just as peeps here were saying Ebuehi would have made the difference difference. Them dey score gk. That's what I know and in very much so in the circumstances in which Neuer was scored. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 7:24pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
maputohq: Containing is part of the game or is it not? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Dannyxy(m): 7:25pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
In life, self believe is key, you must believe in yourself, believe in your hard work, if not,no achievement for you, you would always be second best.. BTW, great goal coutinho.. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 7:28pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
edi287:Rues is almost a spent force these days. Injuries have taken a toll on him. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:31pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
safarigirl: 2 days ago they were deciding on their goal celebration, yet they can't score a goal. Too much Insta and SHAKU SHAKU. Domestic boys would've had more fight. Rohr's incompetence just makes things 10x worst. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 7:32pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
edi287:This is where man management comes in. If there was friction between Leno and Ter Stegen, the Manger should have stepped up and resolved it. Those 2 guys played at the confed cup last year. Kevin Trapp was binned by Unai Emery last season, reduced him to just making appearances in French cup games. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Dannyxy(m): 7:33pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
safarigirl:ah swear, mikel should have done more in inspiring the younger, inexperienced players, he played, like mikel "the follower, not the leader".. No zest, just flat, I know he is a quiet guy, but mhen, he needs to learn to charge up his boys... Imagine, the slow, old Croatians bested us in pace which was, supposed to be our strength, we could not run, we didn't make them chase the ball, we didn't tire them out.. We just played to their strength, and they didn't break a sweat.. Ahh 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:36pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
safarigirl: Calm down my sister. You are not as disappointed as I am. I recall you saying we like to concede. The thing now is we don't concede from open play it is always through set pieces. I believe we were also unlucky with the own goal. That really influences the course of the game. Ekong did almost what Eguovoen did against Italy at USA 94 WC. Meaning we didn't learn from that. I will not give up on the boys yet. The minimum I expected was a decent performance even if we don't qualify from the group. I have always rated every Nigerian team high going into every WC. Let's see how they will respond against Iceland. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 7:37pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
I arranged the formation based on the lineup that was used yesterday. in that lineup, he's better on that wings than where he played yesterday Spy360: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 7:37pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
Mujtahida:My point still stands that favoritism is not a Nigerian thing. I have listed as much as 4 players at the drop of the hat who made the German team on very questionable grounds. You cannot keep saying Germans are not sentimental when there's no clear definition why some of those guys made the team. I'm sure there's a German word for "sentiment" |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:38pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
The expansion you are giving to the discussion is noted but thing is I don't wish to take it to that extent. Firstly because I am watching my second favorite national team in world football in Russia right now... ![]() And yes, there are no guarantees that even our finest will always be on song. Even this same Mexico that shocked Germany today will still drop some meters short in their form as this tournament goes on and may not deliver enough to win all games to make it into the final but it still takes nothing away from their performance today. So it is noted but my simple point is already stated. On your question... I am sure the answer differs for each player. Now allow me get back to my game plsss... ![]() It is not a permission... Ooooo... I don commot. You may hold the keys to all doors here but I got replicas to all mehn and those "secret" originals.. **zooms off** JoebieII: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:39pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
lexyman: That question was asked before the game kicked off. Okocha'a inability to explain Mikel's role kept Zola gazing. He was still expecting the answer to the question he asked meanwhile Okocha just said nonsense. |
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