Fearlez:
you're not intelligent enough to pose a challenge to me. Your motivation is basically rooted on your fandom of Chimamanda who's at best a pretentious opportunistic African found intriguing by leftists who are glad a direction-less African like her is catching on to their idealogy.

Her roots you said? How is that? Her roots as an Igbo girl means, she won't inherit her father's landed property, or be the first to pour sand in his grave (if she were the firstborn) her little brother will do so before her.
Her root is her community like thousands of Igbo girls who are not allowed to partake in community decision making or become an Ozo. Her root is in Enugu, her birthplace where till this day women are not allowed to break Kola nut or eat the gizzards of chicken. Now apart from yapping like a media-drunk parrot, Chimamanda has never told the world she is still being shackled by her own tradition but goes about to voice her anger over Clinton's place with her husband and why white males open doors for white women. This is where I will implore you to come at me with a little piece of integrity. Even alley hookers aren't this pretentious and bereft of shame in the face of nakéd truth.

Uju tell Chimamanda to uplift you and lend her voice so you will cease from being a 4 class citizen in your village where you cannot own your father's land or take his tittle or negotiate terms for your own marriage.

I'm calling her for being a Spotlight hoe and driven solely by attention. Only a madman will leave his burning house to help put out the over-floating stove of a distant neighbour.
Chimamanda is a slave and cannot preach freedom to the free.
You're still dancing around the circumference of ad hominem and subterfuges.

Please Chimamanda the pretensions ignoramus emboldened by the hallucinatory safety of the digital world was born and raised in Nigeria not America.

And can you please tell us how Hilary's martial preference in respect of her husband becomes a matter for the world or where holding doors for women become a burning issue in her country where girls are married off in their adolescence and genitally mutilated after birth?
Or where she is, like you, a 4th class citizen in her community, raised to be a life insurance for your family after marriage?

You're trying so hard to sound intelligent, but you're coming off as bitter and sadistic insetad

When a certain gender feels an immense sense of superiority, not because of their acheiment, but because they were biologically 'lucky', then something is wrong isn't it?

I'm going to address your comments soon, a bit busy right now.

UjuJoan2:


You're trying so hard to sound intelligent, but you're coming off as bitter and sadistic insetad

When a certain gender feels an immense sense of superiority, not because of their acheiment, but because they were biologically 'lucky', then something is wrong isn't it?

I'm going to address your comments soon, a bit busy right now.

Thanks for not pretending to defend the points I raised. At least you look less stupid than you were at the beginning.

Fearlez:
Thanks for not pretending to defend the points I raised. At least you look less stupid than you were at the beginning.

Lol . . . . Why are you so pained? Does the idea of feminism really scare you that much?

The truth is that real men are not scared or feminism, they welcome it because they know it doesn't make them less than they already are. The likes of you are desperately trying to hold on to an imagined superiority, hences the bitterness.

I thought you were a worthy opponent, I don't have time to waste on trolls.

Consider yourself ignored!

postmann:


"The nerve" is backed by a long generational chain of evidential dominance in every sphere of life.

And yet countless women ate breadwinners in their families. How do you expect them to defer to their husbands as the dominant gender, when they probably work harder than he does and provide more than he does.

I don't see myself as a feminist, but I think people should be recognized for what they are worth, and not sidelined based solely on thier boilogical make up.

I'm a woman married and living in my husband's house. And yet when some structural work needs to be carried out in my father's house, I contribute. The idea that I am somehow not worthy of inheriting anything from my father, and yet I contribute equally with my brothers who will end up with the whole inheritance is completely unfair don't you think?

Let's face it, there's no 'evidence' of dominance. What we have is a long history of imagined superiority, based solely on a factor we have no influence over.

It's the same reason why my female boss doesn't get the respect she earend, even though she came out the best candidate out of the all male applicants. It's the same reason I took my male colleague for lunch on his brithdady and the waiter brought the check to him, even though I clearly placed the order. It's the same reason people think women stay with abusive partners because the soeciety only see women Divorcees as failures, when in actual fact it takes both male and female to make a marriage work!

UjuJoan2:


Lol . . . . Why are you so pained? Does the idea of feminism really scare you that much?

The truth is that real men are not scared or feminism, they welcome it because they know it doesn't make them less than they already are. The likes of you are desperately trying to hold on to an imagined superiority, hences the bitterness.

I thought you were a worthy opponent, I don't have time to waste on trolls.

Consider yourself ignored!

Pained? You must be suffering from an overdose of digital heroin.

Who is talking about feminism here and why would anyone be scared of a doomed project like feminism.

We are talking about the hypocrisy and duplicity of your slave-god and you're yapping about feminism.

I don't know why I should pay any mind to a pinhead like you who isn't smart enough to decipher the subject matter of an argument.

Now I'm doubly sure you're amongst those village LIGs who still wipe downwards after using the toilet.

Please, my little naive mgbeke, we're asking you why Chimamanda isn't campaigning for a slave like you tied up by Igbo traditions and she's banging international doors about Hillary's position with her husband.

This is the crux not feminism. Can't you see how breathtakingly brain-damaged you are?

postmann:

Adichie is not being misrepresented. She's being called out for who she really is -- an opportunistic, insincere, feminist.



Let's just at least agree that Female genital Mutilation isn't as prevalent as it used to be. But saying it's NON-EXISTENT suggests like all feminists, insincerity seems to be your stock-in-trade.


That's the core problem with feminism -- trying to compare women to men with all the obvious biological and physiological differences. True feminism lost its soul to greed and discontentment. Looking across the gender table, at the size of a man's plate is a sign of complex and greed. Today, a woman who derives joy and contentment prioritizing her domestic responsibility over her career is being ridiculed and intimidated by a host of feminist she-devils.




Adichie more than wondered, she indeed interfered with the Clintons matrimony unduly while directly indicting Mr Clinton. It was insensitive. Her greed must have gotten the better of her good judgment. After all, having Bill Clinton's wife face to face for an interview was like a once in a life time opportunity for her.

When the woman in question isn't complaining but stood solidly behind "what kind of a husband she's got", I wonder how it mattered to you and Adichie.

Feminists are just a bunch of women with man problems, a bunch of rebels suffering from acute discontent and greed.


Don't you just love to sound off! A healthy male will find you sexually distasteful the day you try opening a car door for him in the matter a man does for his woman.

All women are asking for is due respect when earned. I can't be a good boss to my male subordinate if he thinks he's somehow Superior to me because he's a man. Thats not comparism or greed.

Gender roles are not biologically defined are you know it. It's the society that tells which gender what to expect. I know I'm a woman and can never impregnate another woman, that's biological. But someone telling me I can't have an input in matters that affect me because I'm a woman and not allowed to attend town hall meetings is worrisome.

I agree that her question to Hilary was a bit intrusive, but did it ever occur to you that it may be because she was truly honestly deeply troubled by what she considers an anomaly. Maybe she needs more tact than she's currently displaying, but it doesn't mean her message is completely wrong.

A lot of women want to sit at home and embrace their domestic roles, but the economy has made that next to impossible. Women now have to 'bring home the bacon' too for the family to survive, and yet you still want to relegate them to the background and act like they are not as important. It's also not fair to expect a woman to be as domestic when she has to put in an 8-5 just like her husband, all because she's a woman. Again, like I said, people should be treated based on thier worth and impact, not biology.

By the way, I see nothing wrong in holding doors for men. Not car doors, but revolving doors that could hit them on their face if I get to it first and open it, and then let it go because it's 'just' a man coming behind me.

The idea of chilvary is lovely, and would have remained so if the world wasn't changing so fast. Why shouldn't I go on a date with a man I like at a restaurant I love, just because he can't afford it, when I can? The idea that men should pick up bills and buy the roses is actually selfish and puts just too much pressure on the men.

Maybe feminism shouldn't really be a fight if people are concentious enough to do the right thing and put themselves in other people's shoes, irrespective of their biological make up

postmann:

Adichie is not being misrepresented. She's being called out for who she really is -- an opportunistic, insincere, feminist.

Says who? You? The misguided writer of this OP?

Hilary didn't think that when she edited her bio because of her.

Havard didn't think that either . . When they invited her to make a historic speech.

She possess a well earend respect and just because you don't agree with her views on feminism, doesn't discredit her in anyway.

You think the fact she's not in her village fighting for women's rights makes her insincere? It takes a lot to enforce change, and she's doing hers in her own way, on her own terms. I don't think that makes her insincere in any way. And even if it does, it still doesn't make her message wrong.

I think this backlash is because she's Nigerian and people think Nigerian women have no right to expect respect. It's like saying she shouldn't complain about a bumpy road in Texas because the roads to her village in Anambra is not motorable. Or expecting her to accept disrespect from a male subordinate in London because she cannot inherit properties in her father's house.

postmann:


Those boobs of hers taking the center spot of her DP offer a peep into the dark, empty gully she calls her cranium.

This is totally uncalled for . . You see if she were a man, you would hesitate before making such a derogatory and humiliating comment about her. She didn't attack you, so what justifies this personal attack?

I'm not sorry CNA made those comments, I'm just sorry she's not making similar ones everyday!

Fearlez:
Thanks for not pretending to defend the points I raised. At least you look less stupid than you were at the beginning.

do you agree that there’s a need for feminism giving ( as you described ) that igbo women are treated poorly according to tradition even in their fathers houses.

I’m not talking about chimamanda right now
Just a yes or no answer.

Do. you. agree. that. there. is. a. need. for. feminism?

Seahawk:
do you agree that there’s a need for feminism giving ( as you described ) that igbo women are treated poorly according to tradition even in their fathers houses.

I’m not talking about chimamanda right now
Just a yes or no answer.

Do. you. agree. that. there. is. a. need. for. feminism?

I wouldn't bother with that one if I were you.

Except you're in the mood for barkings from a rabid Dog.

UjuJoan2:


I wouldn't bother with that one if I were you.

Except you're in the mood for barkings from a rabid Dog.

I’m just curious as to what his response will be.
I’m anticipating something like:

“Chimamanda needs to focus on real issues like FGM and discrimination against women in her culture but feminism is bad so let’s just leave the women to keep being oppressed since feminism is bad”.

Fearlez:


Pained? You must be suffering from an overdose of digital heroin.

Who is talking about feminism here and why would anyone be scared of a doomed project like feminism.

We are talking about the hypocrisy and duplicity of your slave-god and you're yapping about feminism.

I don't know why I should pay any mind to a pinhead like you who isn't smart enough to decipher the subject matter of an argument.

Now I'm doubly sure you're amongst those village LIGs who still wipe downwards after using the toilet.

Please, my little naive mgbeke, we're asking you why Chimamanda isn't campaigning for a slave like you tied up by Igbo traditions and she's banging international doors about Hillary's position with her husband.

This is the crux not feminism. Can't you see how breathtakingly brain-damaged you are?

I understand hypocrisy to be ascribing phony, non-existent virtue to oneself, or in this case, Chimamanda's culture. Your antagonism would make sense if she claimed her Igbo roots were the gold standard for gender equality. I'm not aware she ever made such claims. It would also make sense if she lived in Nigeria while running regular cultural commentary about America and the West, but this isn't the case either. I've watched and read her speak about various pathologies in our culture from misogyny to homophobia, but she speaks a lot more frequently in the context of her place of work and residence, which happens to be America, talking about the issues as they affect her environment. What is "hypocritical" about that?

And there's nothing "doomed" about feminism. Sure, like any just movement in history, there are always extremist fringes straining to hijack the agenda with their zealotry. But many women have fought and won a lot of victories for women around the world on many vital issues from suffrage to education to employment to agency over their own bodies and reproductive rights. I'm grateful to them that any daughter I have would live in the world they've built.

Obi1kenobi:



I understand hypocrisy to be ascribing phony, non-existent virtue to oneself, or in this case, Chimamanda's culture. Your antagonism would make sense if she claimed her Igbo roots were the gold standard for gender equality. I'm not aware she ever made such claims. It would also make sense if she lived in Nigeria while running regular cultural commentary about America and the West, but this isn't the case either. I've watched and read her speak about various pathologies in our culture from misogyny to homophobia, but she speaks a lot more frequently in the context of her place of work and residence, which happens to be America, talking about the issues as they affect her environment. What is "hypocritical" about that?

I wonder whether the prerequisite factor in qualifying as a feminist ( both male and female) is acute cognitive impairment! It is hypocritical of Chimamanda to tell White society about irrelevant gestures like males opening doors for females as a mark of courtesy, or to criticize Hilary Clinton over where she chooses to place her status as wife of Bill Clinton in a society that allowed a woman to become the flag bearer of a major political party...a situation that is unlikely to occur in her country in the next hundred years.

You see, it is an implied stance that all is good in my culture, country and background, when in truth, the fool can't even inherit her father's landed property even if the man had no male heir... and the next time I hear you mention Chimamanda is only tackling issues in America because she works and resides there, I will bitchslap your depleted testosterone back to its default values.
Chimamanda was born in Eastern Nigeria and attended university here, so worrying about America because she works there's is just seeking media attention and avoiding true issues.

Chinua Achebe and Soyinka all stayed and worked abroad and championed Nigeria courses from abroad. Not pretending to be able to fix America's "problem" when yours is disinheriting you. Bill Clinton and Hillary Girl Has only one female child and American culture makes them secure. Chimamanda's father will marry a second wife if her mother fails to give him a male Child.

Now tell me about hypocrisy, mumu.

Obi1kenobi:



And there's nothing "doomed" about feminism. Sure, like any just movement in history, there are always extremist fringes straining to hijack the agenda with their zealotry. But many women have fought and won a lot of victories for women around the world on many vital issues from suffrage to education to employment to agency over their own bodies and reproductive rights. I'm grateful to them that any daughter I have would live in the world they've built.

Oh, Sweden has practiced feminism for over a century and ended up with more sad women in the world with one of the highest rape occurrences, along other western countries.

Since the advent of feminism, women's life expectancy has dropped drastically while that of men has remained steady.

Female reproductive lifespan has been affected too with 16 percent of females now hitting menopause and experiencing ovarian failure as early as their early 30s.

Feminism is about female empowerment and I don't want an attention-craving newt with confusing sexual perception to deviate this thread into feminist nonsense.

Stick to the duplicity and hypocrisy of Chimamanda.

UjuJoan2:


I wouldn't bother with that one if I were you.

Except you're in the mood for barkings from a rabid Dog.

You will insult me behind my back. That's cheating

@ seahawk, open a separate thread for your curiosity or go get warm with Google.

UjuJoan2:


All women are asking for is due respect when earned. I can't be a good boss to my male subordinate if he thinks he's somehow Superior to me because he's a man. Thats not comparism or greed.

Gender roles are not biologically defined are you know it. It's the society that tells which gender what to expect. I know I'm a woman and can never impregnate another woman, that's biological. But someone telling me I can't have an input in matters that affect me because I'm a woman and not allowed to attend town hall meetings is worrisome.

I agree that her question to Hilary was a bit intrusive, but did it ever occur to you that it may be because she was truly honestly deeply troubled by what she considers an anomaly. Maybe she needs more tact than she's currently displaying, but it doesn't mean her message is completely wrong.

A lot of women want to sit at home and embrace their domestic roles, but the economy has made that next to impossible. Women now have to 'bring home the bacon' too for the family to survive, and yet you still want to relegate them to the background and act like they are not as important. It's also not fair to expect a woman to be as domestic when she has to put in an 8-5 just like her husband, all because she's a woman. Again, like I said, people should be treated based on thier worth and impact, not biology.

By the way, I see nothing wrong in holding doors for men. Not car doors, but revolving doors that could hit them on their face if I get to it first and open it, and then let it go because it's 'just' a man coming behind me.

The idea of chilvary is lovely, and would have remained so if the world wasn't changing so fast. Why shouldn't I go on a date with a man I like at a restaurant I love, just because he can't afford it, when I can? The idea that men should pick up bills and buy the roses is actually selfish and puts just too much pressure on the men.

Maybe feminism shouldn't really be a fight if people are concentious enough to do the right thing and put themselves in other people's shoes, irrespective of their biological make up

Well ma, For the record. The women you speak about that embrace their domestic roles are important. Yes. But what do most women in marriages use their money for?They spend money on themselves, their family, their sibings. So there is a saying that A woman's money is hers While a man's money is for both (& family inclusive). Oh well, It's not just a saying because I've witnessed it first hand. In a honest society in the West, where both parties actually begins marriage with a willingness to give 100%. These things work. You need to understand that the average Nigerian lady is selfish & just interested on how she you would take care of her needs in form of Relationship.

We cannot deny that a of Women in Nigeria actually just marry for Financial freedom. This is not to discredit a lot of hard working females out there, But we are talking about the Majority here. My point is the average Nigerian lady doesn't give a hoot about what you do for living as long as you pick up bills and buy the roses

The issue of male subordinates assuming superiority is true & unfair, atleast that one I can attest to it.

Fearlez:
I wonder whether the prerequisite factor in qualifying as a feminist ( both male and female) is acute cognitive impairment! It is hypocritical of Chimamanda to tell White society about irrelevant gestures like males opening doors for females as a mark of courtesy, or to criticize Hilary Clinton over where she chooses to place her status as wife of Bill Clinton in a society that allowed a woman to become the flag bearer of a major political party...a situation that is unlikely to occur in her country in the next hundred years.

You see, it is an implied stance that all is good in my culture, country and background, when in truth, the fool can't even inherit her father's landed property even if the man had no male heir... and the next time I hear you mention Chimamanda is only tackling issues in America because she works and resides there, I will bitchslap your depleted testosterone back to it default values.
Chimamanda was born in Eastern Nigeria and attended university here, so worrying about America because she works there's is just seeking media attention and avoiding true issues.

Chinua Achebe and Soyinka all stayed and worked abroad and championed Nigeria courses from abroad. Not pretending to be able to fix America's "problem" when yours is disinheriting you. Bill Clinton and Hillary Girl Has only one female child and American culture makes them secure. Chimamanda's father will marry a second wife if her mother fails to give him a male Child.

Now tell me about hypocrisy, mumu.

Except there is no such implication at all. It's a fallacious red herring. Nowhere has she used her ethnic background as a moral example.
So what if she seeks media attention? Achebe and Soyinka for all their undisputed intellectual gifts didn't attain the cultural mainstream fame that Chimamanda did in the US. They were more academics than social commentators. Fate also ensured they were strongly intertwined with domestic political affairs in Nigeria - especially as they were shaped by the civil war and post-war politics - and they spent most of their life in Nigeria. Chimamanda left Nigeria as a 19-year-old and has spent 21 years since as an American. I have zero interest in judging her career choices. It's not my business or yours.

I'm not sure where all your weird suppositions about her family come from. Cultural norms are hardly a mandate compelling anyone to do anything. Plenty of Igbo women inherit their father's wealth. I know a good number in my extended family alone. Who says she wouldn't be able to inherit her father's wealth. Who told you her father would remarry because of no male progeny? My mum's younger sister had 6 girls with no boys and had the happiest marriage till her husband died after a stroke. Do you sit down making fatuous shiit up when you have nothing cogent to say?

Oh, Sweden has practiced feminism for over a century and ended up with more sad women in the world with one of the highest rape occurrences, along eotjkst western countries.

Since the advent of feminism, women's life expectancy has dropped drastically while that of men has remained steady.

Female reproductive lifespan has been affected too with 16 percent of females now hitting menopause and experiencing ovarian failure as early as their early 30s.

Feminism is about female empowerment and I don't want an attention-craving meet with so confusing sexual perception to deviate this thread into feminist nonsense.

Stick to the duplicity and hypocrisy of Chimamanda.

Female life expectancy is higher than male life expectancy in every Western country.
There is no correlation between reproductive lifespan and feminism (apparently, feminism destroys your ovaries ), though there is between countries that promote gender equality and birth rate. Maybe if we want to stop breeding like rats and doubling our population every 20-year-cycle, we should explore that.
Swedish or Western women aren't any sadder than their counterparts elsewhere. Scandinavian rape statistics are comparatively high because in countries with empowered women, reporting rates are much higher.

"A frequently cited source when comparing Swedish rape statistics internationally is the regularly published report by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), based on official statistics provided by each member state. In 2012, Sweden had 66 cases of reported rapes per 100,000 population, according to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention. This was unequivocally the biggest number reported to the UNODC in 2012. However, widely differing legal systems, offence definitions, terminological variations, recording practices and statistical conventions makes any cross-national comparison on rape statistics difficult, which is why the UNODC itself caution against using their figures. It should also be noted that many countries do not report any rape statistics at all to the UNODC, and some report very low numbers, despite studies that indicate otherwise.

The Swedish police record each instance of sexual violence in every case separately, leading to an inflated number of cases compared to other countries. Sweden also has a comparatively wide definition of rape."

Basically, statistics are useless without context. An average woman brutally raped in Somalia wouldn't even report it. A Scandinavian woman who is fondled at a party would often report it as sexual assault and it's taken seriously in their society - as it should be.

UjuJoan2:


And yet countless women ate breadwinners in their families. How do you expect them to defer to their husbands as the dominant gender, when they probably work harder than he does and provide more than he does.

I don't see myself as a feminist, but I think people should be recognized for what they are worth, and not sidelined based solely on thier boilogical make up.

I'm a woman married and living in my husband's house. And yet when some structural work needs to be carried out in my father's house, I contribute. The idea that I am somehow not worthy of inheriting anything from my father, and yet I contribute equally with my brothers who will end up with the whole inheritance is completely unfair don't you think?

Let's face it, there's no 'evidence' of dominance. What we have is a long history of imagined superiority, based solely on a factor we have no influence over.

It's the same reason why my female boss doesn't get the respect she earend, even though she came out the best candidate out of the all male applicants. It's the same reason I took my male colleague for lunch on his brithdady and the waiter brought the check to him, even though I clearly placed the order. It's the same reason people think women stay with abusive partners because the soeciety only see women Divorcees as failures, when in actual fact it takes both male and female to make a marriage work!

You talk about the absence of evidence of male dominance, and a long history of imagined superiority. But I'll tell you that just about everything you love was invented by man, from your disposable sanitary pad to the car you drive. Your identity is man created and sustained. Your village boundary was lined by the blood of your forefathers and by their bravery your identity was created and preserved. Even right now as we speak, your life is being protected by men who outnumbered women in a 9-1 ratio in the military and police service.

Denying your gender has no role to play in your abilities and inabilities is living in denial.


It doesn't matter how smart you may sound or what your academic credentials hold. What matter are those feminine hormones in your system and how they react to pressure, coercion, deceit and brute force. This is where leadership and dominance step in.

I don't see feminist lobby groups complaining about the lack of female population in the armed forces, police service, fire service etc, but they complain of not having enough parliamentary positions, bank executive positions. Hmmm! Greedy vultures. Feminism is a scam, It's a brand of false civilization.

Fearlez:
@ seahawk, open a separate thread for your curiosity or go get warm with Google.

Just As expected.

You’re against feminism when it suits you. and you’re for it when you’re trying to insult a supposedly ‘pseudo feminist’ because she’s allegedly not being feminist enough instead she’s fighting the lesser issues.

Make up your mind.

and it just keeps getting better.

As y’all know Daddy freeze married a divorcee and loves her to bits. The man keeps showing off her meals on IG it’s unbearable.

postmann:


You talk about the absence of evidence of male dominance, and a long history of imagined superiority. But I'll tell you that just about everything you love was invented by man, from your disposable sanitary pad to the car you drive. Your identity is man created and sustained. Your village boundary was lined by the blood of your forefathers and by their bravery your identity was created and preserved. Even right now as we speak, your life is being protected by men who outnumbered women in a 9-1 ratio in the military and police service.

Denying your gender has no role to play in your abilities and inabilities is living in denial.


It doesn't matter how smart you may sound or what your academic credentials hold. What matter are those feminine hormones in your system and how they react to pressure, coercion, deceit and brute force. This is where leadership and dominance step in.

I don't see feminist lobby groups complaining about the lack of female population in the armed forces, police service, fire service etc, but they complain of not having enough parliamentary positions, bank executive positions. Hmmm! Greedy vultures. Feminism is a scam, It's a brand of false civilization.

These differences exist for the exact reason why feminism is essential. Women were never given same opportunities as men. Only men were considered to do great things why women were relegated to domestic roles. All feminism is advocating for are equal opportunities.

Again, like I said, I don't think we're talking about hormonal and biological differences. Men are stronger in physical abilities and so they fight the wars . . . That's also biological. But the inventions you talked about are not. Women are also beginning to make waves in terms of innovations, when the opportunities are available to them as is with their male counterparts.

Gender classifications are unnecessary, but biological onse are essential.

What bothers me is that you see absolutely nothing wrong in this discrimination. Not even the most glaring ones. Waving it off as greed and insatisfaction is really unproductive.

The world is leaving you behind my friend, things are changing. Who knew there will someday be a female presidential candidate in the US, or female presidents in some countries or even female medical doctors.

Nigeria is slower than her Western counterparts, but we will also get there. So you guys better start getting used to it.

cruchenutii:


Well ma, For the record. The women you speak about that embrace their domestic roles are important. Yes. But what do most women in marriages use their money for?They spend money on themselves, their family, their sibings. So there is a saying that A woman's money is hers While a man's money is for both (& family inclusive). Oh well, It's not just a saying because I've witnessed it first hand. In a honest society in the West, where both parties actually begins marriage with a willingness to give 100%. These things work. You need to understand that the average Nigerian lady is selfish & just interested on how she you would take care of her needs in form of Relationship.

We cannot deny that a of Women in Nigeria actually just marry for Financial freedom. This is not to discredit a lot of hard working females out there, But we are talking about the Majority here. My point is the average Nigerian lady doesn't give a hoot about what you do for living as long as you pick up bills and buy the roses

The issue of male subordinates assuming superiority is true & unfair, atleast that one I can attest to it.

I don't know on what statistic you're basing your conclusions, that working women only provide for themselves and not for their families. Because that's just wrong.

The fact that women have been made to believe that providing for the family is the man's job is the main reason why this change is needed, because the men are over worked and under unreasonable pressure. Which is what leads most of them to an early grave.

My husband is under 40 and already hypertensive. The sheer amount of pressure on men in the society is ludicrous. Most of them bring it on themselves by assuming undue hardwork and relegating women as unproductive. Women thrive in work places these days and if the men are willing to accept their contribution and treat them as equal in every area, including domestic, this pressure wont be so much on them.

At least you agree with me on something so we'll just agree to disagree on the others

Obi1kenobi:


I understand hypocrisy to be ascribing phony, non-existent virtue to oneself, or in this case, Chimamanda's culture. Your antagonism would make sense if she claimed her Igbo roots were the gold standard for gender equality. I'm not aware she ever made such claims. It would also make sense if she lived in Nigeria while running regular cultural commentary about America and the West, but this isn't the case either. I've watched and read her speak about various pathologies in our culture from misogyny to homophobia, but she speaks a lot more frequently in the context of her place of work and residence, which happens to be America, talking about the issues as they affect her environment. What is "hypocritical" about that?

And there's nothing "doomed" about feminism. Sure, like any just movement in history, there are always extremist fringes straining to hijack the agenda with their zealotry. But many women have fought and won a lot of victories for women around the world on many vital issues from suffrage to education to employment to agency over their own bodies and reproductive rights. I'm grateful to them that any daughter I have would live in the world they've built.

You know the people claiming that her comments are hypocritical are the true hypocrites. These same people we would mock her if she talks about the issues in Nigeria, because she's not living here and 'doesnt know what it feels like'.

In any case, the idea that one has no right to comment on an issue around her because her 'roots' are questionable is laughable. We all know what CNA thinks of Nigeria, she has never once defended our vices.

Seahawk:


Just As expected.

You’re against feminism when it suits you. and you’re for it when you’re trying to insult a supposedly ‘pseudo feminist’ because she’s allegedly not being feminist enough instead she’s fighting the lesser issues.

Make up your mind.

I could feel it; and now this boring, badly programmed Ugandan virus is looking so desperately for an internet activity to the point it forces words into my mouth.

Loneliness is bad thing.

Ewuro4:
and it just keeps getting better.

As y’all know Daddy freeze married a divorcee and loves her to bits. The man keeps showing off her meals on IG it’s unbearable.

Lol, Daddy Freeze at it again.

I'm still waiting with bated breath to read or see Chimanmanda's response to the conversation Dana Loesch's remarks to her has stirred up. I'm quite sick and tired of engaging her maid-servants who have been trying all they can to defend their madam.

I need to see an intelligent response ASAP and it seems it can only come from Chimanmanda herself. This silence however leaves a lot to the imagination especially as she has a reputation to always respond to attacks against her views.

crackhaus:

Lol, Daddy Freeze at it again.

l'm still waiting with bated breath to read or see Chimanmanda's response to the conversation Dana Loesch's remarks to her has stirred up. I'm quite sick and tired of engaging her maid-servants who have been trying all they can to defend their madam.

I need to see an intelligent response ASAP and it seems it can only come from Chimanmanda herself. This silence however leaves a lot to the imagination especially as she has a reputation to always respond to attacks against her views.

Crackhaus, long time. greetings and blessings. Been wanting to chip in the emboldened since this thread started.

When Nigerians roasted her for her Clinton comments, she was quick to issue a statement but has been so hesitant when Dana Loesch dropped her off at the curb.

Fearlez:
I could feel it; and now this boring, badly programmed Ugandan virus is looking so desperately for an internet activity to the point it forces words into my mouth.

Loneliness is bad thing.

Is that a yes or no?

Do you agree there’s a need for feminism seeing as you recognize the marginalization of women in some Nigerian cultures.

It’s really simple. Yes or No

Seahawk:


Is that a yes or no?

Do you agree there’s a need for feminism seeing as you recognize the marginalization of women in some Nigerian cultures.

It’s really simple. Yes or No

Your last post was falsely ascribing a position to me only to ask me my position again.
This thread isn't about feminism nah, it's about your god's duplicity and attention-craving habits.

Why asking me a moronic question to cure your boredom and activate your cyber maladaptation?

UjuJoan2:
Feminism is a fight of freedom . . . There's nothing pretty about it. The fact that she was born and bred in an environment where women are marginalized should be a motivation for her cause, not a deterrent.

I know change is not easy, it never is, and it can be acheieved from ay where, thank God for social media and globalization. that's why we need the likes of her, who will use hammer to drum it into your heads. Whether you want to here it or not.

The only true fight of freedom is to encourage all women to remain single. Why go through the stress and contestation with a man when you can actually choose to be alone and free?? Staying single is the only true fight of freedom (feminism).

The whole internet sensations and distractions from Chimamanda and her fellow could be avoided by simply deciding to remain single. You can't be married and still remain a feminist. Forget the nonsense you see in her books. Most writers lie for a living.

crackhaus:

Lol, Daddy Freeze at it again.

I'm still waiting with bated breath to read or see Chimanmanda's response to the conversation Dana Loesch's remarks to her has stirred up. I'm quite sick and tired of engaging her maid-servants who have been trying all they can to defend their madam.

I need to see an intelligent response ASAP and it seems it can only come from Chimanmanda herself. This silence however leaves a lot to the imagination especially as she has a reputation to always respond to attacks against her views.

I'll be very dissapionted in her if she responds to an obviously racist attack.

What's laughable is the fact that 'intelligent' superior beings like you men are falling all over yourselves to discredit a woman who is completely oblivious of your existence.

The fact that you'll even resort to engaging her 'maid-servants' reeks of desperation and frustration.

Funny how all it takes is one comment from CNA to bring you guys to your knees.

Acidosis:


The only true fight of freedom is to encourage all women to remain single. Why go through the stress and contestation with a man when you can actually choose to be alone and free?? Staying single is the only true fight of freedom (feminism).

The whole internet sensations and distractions from Chimamanda and her fellow could be avoided by simply deciding to remain single. You can't be married and still remain a feminist. Forget the nonsense you see in her books. Most writers lie for a living.

So is marriage some kind of bondage/prison for women?

I really don't care about Chimamanda and honestly, I've not even read most of her books. But we live in a society where people see women are second class citizens, not because of their pedigree, but because of their biological make-up. The only reason why you men are against changing this is because you are the sole beneficiaries of this discrimination.

Acidosis:


[s]The only true fight of freedom is to encourage all women to remain single. Why go through the stress and contestation with a man when you can actually choose to be alone and free?? Staying single is the only true fight of freedom (feminism).

The whole internet sensations and distractions from Chimamanda and her fellow could be avoided by simply deciding to remain single. You can't be married and still remain a feminist. Forget the nonsense you see in her books. Most writers lie for a living.[/s]

You can be a feminist and still get married. Marry a person who shares your ideology compatibility is key. stop writing rubbish your world view is not the only one that exists.