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Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Nobody: 8:18am On Jun 19, 2018 |
When Black men celebrate a racist (Dana from the TEA PARTY) in order to put Black women in place, you then know why it has been so easy for the white man to dominate, oppress and exploit them. Bunch of re*tards. ![]() 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by UjuJoan2: 8:20am On Jun 19, 2018 |
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Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Fearlez: 8:21am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Obi1kenobi:who's talking about Chimamanda's career here? The problem with feminism is that to become one, you have to jettison logic and integrity like curb hookers. Chimamanda was born in Nigeria and attended University here. Did she graduate at age 19? Your ability to ignore the crux of the matter and spring up irrelevant matter is at par with Adichie's pretence that she's an American on a mission to change American culture. Obi1kenobi:Looooooooooolz!!!! Cultural norms are hardly a mandate compelling anyone to do anything you say? But Chimamanda as an "American" is kicking against American culture of men opening doors for women nah? Can't you see you just exposed yourself as a fanboy with no brainpower to main your doctrines. No wonder crackhau.s said he was still looking for intelligent response none of you maid-servants are capable of providing. Obi1kenobi:your name is Obi and except you don't know your father or was raised by a non-igbo mother, then permit me to be blunt: you're either an Osu or a bastard! In all cultures of Igbo societies both western and eastern igbos, women are forbidden from inheriting lands. It could be given to them as the benevolence of family members but never as her right, rather as gift which is completely at the discretion of the males in the family. You lack integrity and honesty. People like you are dead in the real world and fully alive digitally. Silly móron. Who is talking about inheriting wealth here? This is how you twist issue as feminists. A man's wealth in Igbo land will always be divided amongst his children as Igbo culture doesn't really cover monies in the bank or companies. Ogbeni, I am talking about land!!!! I never mentioned wealth here, deceitful , slimy idiot!!! NO IGBO WOMAN CAN INHERIT HER FATHER'S LAND BY TRADITION!!! and oh, Igbo women since precolonial times have been marrying other women into their husbands' house to give them sons and an Igbo man who didn't bear male children sometimes have one of his daughters get pregnant outside marriage to raise a male son of his own. Chimamanda's father's ancestral land in ANAMBRA will go to his brothers and their children if he has no male child of his own. That's Igbo Culture until the coming of Christ. Obi1kenobi:Your cognition is below the national average!!! Please I never said male life expectancy is higher than females'. I said women's life expectancy has greatly reduced since feminism kicked in while men's have remained steady. Are you just mentally slow or you're just a petty idiot who lies like a small-time thief? Also , there's a link between reproductive lifespan and feminism. As more women reportedly engage in workforce and office routine, stress and junk food have taken a toll on their fertility as the BBC authoritatively states that 16 percent of women are hitting menopause in their early 30s all due to stress and junk food. You're truly dumb and uninformed. Obi1kenobi:[/s] Rape is rape all over the world . Only sexual harassment have varying meaning. Women all over the world have a tendency to hide rape, not just in Sweden or Somalia. Be honest. Your life may one day depend on it. You're wetter than a dripping cúnt. 10 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Acidosis(m): 8:22am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Proudgorgeousga: Marriage is not designed for feminists. If you're one and married, you're probably doing an excursion because marriage isn't meant for you. Divorce now that you can and preach the right message. You've failed to practise what you preach |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Nobody: 8:25am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Acidosis: who says marriage is not designed for feminists? marriage is designed by people in it.it's a contract. you are saying rubbish. 2 Likes |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Nobody: 8:28am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Mindfulness: I want to believe they do not know what she stands for. Freeze was calling her an activist 4 Likes |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Nobody: 8:31am On Jun 19, 2018 |
oyb: One of them certainly knows, he has been schooled by me until he freaked out and went on an online ranting spree. ![]() The rest are, as I said, re*tarded. ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Acidosis(m): 8:31am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Proudgorgeousga: Madam, the foundation of marriage in Africa does not support the feminist ideology so if you as an African woman claims to be one, you're merely deceiving yourself. Why didn't you tell your uncles to burn that list called bridal/engagement list? Does feminism support that extortion? Is that your own brand of feminism in Africa? If anyone must talk about feminism, then let those in the US (and other countries where bridal extortion is alien) talk! If your own feminism cannot vehemently tear that list apart and resist your uncles, then your message is merely a distraction on the Internet. Channel your energy to the right course and build your home, the right way. 5 Likes |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Nobody: 8:41am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Acidosis: You do not have to do traditional marriage to be married. I am for bride price culture being destroyed at least in my culture it's not like it is going to me or my father. Why would I want my husband to pay people who might not even wish me well money to Marry me? some cultures have even modified the rubbish by returning the money saying their daughter is not for sale. my late aunt didnt do it and heaven did not fall. culture /tradition is not a hill I want to die on. culture is dynamic it's not static. I'm going to build my home the right way dear by recognizing my future daughters as full human beings thank you. |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Fearlez: 8:46am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Mindfulness:mindfulness aka the deactivated carefreewannabe, the mother who lost her marriage in far away Germany to Nairaland addiction. It is all right to hop into the feminist train after a failed marriage. Humans need denial to instill hope. I feel you. 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Acidosis(m): 8:56am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Proudgorgeousga: Last time I checked, not even a single culture has tried to reduce or eliminate that list. What most cultures return is the bride price (usually less than N1000), not engagement list which sometimes culminate in millions. The summary of my message is that we do not necessarily have to copy feminism in someone else's culture to make a point. There are peculiar issues that affect Nigerian homes, hence importing perceived western solutions can cripple the whole idea/essence of marriage. Note the word "perceived", since it appears that there is a positive and significant relationship between feminism and divorce. Marriage has never been the coming together of two equal people, but two imperfect beings with different strengths and weaknesses, who are supposed to compliment each other, not share equal responsibilities. How can or why should two equal people come together to share equal responsibilities ? It doesn't make sense. 3 Likes |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Nobody: 9:23am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Acidosis:my bad then. Yoruba people claim they are so progressive. A Yoruba person told me they don't do all those list things. The summary of my message is that we do not necessarily have to copy feminism in someone else's culture to make a point. There are peculiar issues that affect Nigerian homes, hence importing perceived western solutions can cripple the whole idea/essence of marriage. There is this thing called intersectional feminism FYI. also what Feminism fight for is subject to the society e. g women's problems in Iran is not exactly the same as that in India. If your idea of marriage is oppressive I don't give a Bleep if it cripples. I'm for fairer marriages. Note the word "perceived", since it appears that there is a positive and significant relationship between feminism and divorce. many people's traditional ideas of marriage is inherently oppressive so we are fighting to change it. you tear down old structures to rebuild. you don't expect a man to buy your daughter from you and expected him to treat her as a human being not as commodity. I'm on internet both nairaland/Twitter many people use bride price culture to justify many things including martial rape. Marriage has never been the coming together of two equal people, but two imperfect beings with different strengths and weaknesses, who are supposed to compliment each other, not share equal responsibilities. How can or why should two equal people come together to share equal responsibilities ? It doesn't make sense. when I say equal, I mean equal in humanity. what is wrong with equal responsibilities if they are both capable? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Acidosis(m): 10:06am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Proudgorgeousga:All cultures in Nigeria do but on different scales. My idea of marriage is not oppression, but responsibility. A man should be responsible enough to be husband to his wife and father to the kids. The woman should be responsible enough to be wife to her husband and mother to her children. Any movement that attempts to switch roles must be soundly resisted. Things happens and for some reasons, roles can be switched albeit temporarily, but never should be accepted as a norm.
Are you aware that most women desire a real man that is willing to take the mantle of leadership, head and authority over the home? If leadership is what you refer to as oppression, then it is safer to just avoid the institution called marriage. They can't be capable in same dimension. Men don't grow breasts to feed babies |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Nobody: 10:31am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Acidosis: not all women. that is the point of my response to you. you don't get to push your world view on others. Feminists can get married to people who share their ideologies. Feminism is also about giving women choices. some women are better leaders than men. some women earn more than than their husbands should they now leave their husbands to die of HBP because they want to adhere to gender roles? Some men barely make enough and work the same hours as their wives yet they leave all responsibility in child care and house work to her. should she die because it's her duty? leadership qualities is not by having a penis. people can switch roles in their marriage if they choose to. You are not in the marriage with them. what I regard as oppression is the submission /control marriage some people like to preach. 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Acidosis(m): 10:41am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Proudgorgeousga: What the heck?! Are you suggesting that men who earn less should become wives?? Yes, leadership roles is not by having a penis. In the same vein, leadership roles is not by having more money. There is something called innate qualities/responsibilities. Men are naturally created to be heads of families whether they are financially capable or not. A woman can head an organisation but not a home where a man lives. A woman cannot be head over her husband. This is why I advise leadership-centric women (feminists) to stick to being single. |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by J2381: 10:41am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Mindfulness:what's the difference between a racist and a tribalist? Believe me, women, not just black women have just one place to be. That is beside a good, caring and loving man. Any woman who put herself outside this place have herself to blame. 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Fearlez: 10:50am On Jun 19, 2018 |
J2381:you didn't ask the sad divorcee what was racist about Dana Loesch's remark? If all Feminists are like her and that Pussycat Obi, then they should be denied the right to breathe! How is Miss Loesch telling a worthless piece of scum like Chimamanda she doesn't understand what chivalry is and that in her country Nigeria, women are being genitally mutilated in Nigeria? It's a good advice and the pretentious idiot called Chimamanda hasn't responded till this very minute. As for mindfulness, she has been here for ages trying to prevent other young women from enjoying the joys of marriage. You know misery loves company and a bitter woman online is far more dangerous than ISIS and Boko Haram combined. 9 Likes |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Nobody: 10:58am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Acidosis: what does wife mean to you? don't be obtuse. a wife is a woman who is married. a husband is a man who is married. I don't understand what you mean by a man being a wife. If a woman can head a complex organization where men work why can she head her home? your advice is noted. I'm here to tell you people don't need you to tell them what they can or cannot do in their own home. people marry those they have things in common with. That's where compatibility comes in. A feminist will not go and marry an anti feminist man with her eyes open. 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by J2381: 10:58am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Fearlez:i'm starting to see Chimamanda for who she is, that is a skilled troll. Nothing more, nothing less. |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Obi1kenobi(m): 11:05am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Fearlez: Perhaps, tone down a bit the avalanche of juvenile insults. You're not impressing anyone by the amount of times you use the word "logic" - especially when you're immune to logic. And no, she did not graduate in Nigeria. She left medical school in UNN as a 19-year-old and moved on to other pursuits in the US. She doesn't have to pretend to be anything. She's an American citizen. Go and strip away her citizenship if you're so inclined.
1) A throwaway comment in an interview is not a "campaign" 2) Cultural norms should be far easier to campaign against than established law. I'm not sure what your point is beyond self-applause and ascribing intellectual prowess to yourself. You seem very insecure.
You hardly need my permission to call me anything you wish. I have no control over what uncivil, obnoxious keyboard warriors on the internet say. And no, I'm not an Osu. There was no Osu caste system in Idemili where I'm from in Anambra. Neither am I a bastard. I'm a spitting image of my dad. ![]()
Please, show me these statistics showing female life expectancy has "greatly reduced". Sounds like either made up bullshiit or misinterpretation of statistics or selective cherry-picking of stats for an individual country. And again, no, there is no such correlation between reproductive lifespan and feminism. Your ovaries don't suddenly age just because you are a feminist. ![]() An no, rape is not rape all over the world: "Sweden also significantly broadened its definition of rape in 2005, which means the word "rape" can be used to record acts which would be called assault or bodily harm in other countries." Also: "In Sweden, each case of sexual violence is recorded as a separate incident. So for example, if someone says they were raped by a partner every day for a fortnight, officers will record 14 potential crimes. In other countries the claim could be logged as a single incident." 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Obi1kenobi(m): 11:19am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Acidosis: Innate qualities and responsibilities that are shared by men and women. Some have the gifts. Others don't. Having a diick doesn't automatically make you endowed with leadership qualities. Some of the most intelligent creatures on the planet have matriarchal societies including chimps and bonobos, dolphins, orcas and elephants. Men assumed a leadership role in the history of human civilization due to their superior strength. Evolutionarily, this may have been relevant in the stone age when we were chucking spears at our prey and evading natural predators and fighting for territorial dominance. This has no relevance in the 21st century. You have no entitlement to domestic leadership just because of your diick. 7 Likes |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Acidosis(m): 11:23am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Proudgorgeousga: Are you the head in your home? You're a feminist, aren't you? The only reason I'll continue this conversation is if you practise what you preach, not what someone else wrote in a book. |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Acidosis(m): 11:26am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Obi1kenobi: Lol, I hear. Will you marry an evolutionary stronger woman that is ready to go out there and hustle while you breastfeed and babysit all day? If you won't practise what you preach, then I'm not willing to have this conversation. |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Obi1kenobi(m): 11:38am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Acidosis: Nothing you typed here makes any sense. Millions of men around the world live and have families with strong, independent women. They don't have to breastfeed anybody. i'm not sure why that makes you so insecure. The fact you have to invoke breastfeeding and babysitting suggests feminists somehow emasculate you. That's your fragile male ego speaking. 8 Likes |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Nobody: 11:43am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Acidosis: I already practice what I preach. I don't intend to enter relationships with religious or misogynistic men thank you. 3 Likes |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Acidosis(m): 11:49am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Obi1kenobi: A yes or no response is all I asked. Saying that men should suddenly switch roles because your 21st century women work "so hard" is strange and toxic. Women in the 19th and 17th century have been working so hard whilst some even birthing more than 10 children. Stop spreading falsehood and quit making excuses for lazy, domineering and egocentric women. It is not enough to preach online what you won't practise. Everyone should stick to their roles and those who can't, should remain single. Marriage is all about dependence, not independence. If you can do it all by yourself, then what's the point of marriage? There are no independent married women anywhere. All the independent ones are single. 6 Likes |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Fearlez: 11:55am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Obi1kenobi:Same old line every docile mind in Nairaland have used since 2013. So she was already an adult when she went to the US. And she tries to teach America their own culture and its meaning. ![]() Other than being an un-improvising ambulance chasing feminist, to secure female adulation, you don't have much facts to back your assertions. Men like you end up in suicide or die from HBP. Seen it many times. Obi1kenobi:You call Chimamanda's call for white men to cease opening doors for women a throwaway comment? Ouch!!! Just because I cornered you into admitting your mental confusion when you stupidly stated culture doesn't determine one's action. A throwaway comment that warranted a response from America's National Riffle Association Spokesperson? This is where I will ask you to show me your pussy. You're a gaping, dishonest cúnt. Obi1kenobi:ok, check the emboldened here. You claim Igbo discrimination against women are nothing but stereotypes and in the next breath said they are cultural norms ![]() ![]() ![]() Ogbeni, I no dey debate with people like you without cussing them. Just relax. I'm still busy. when I'm done I will up the tempo for a worthless quack like you. And even if your family chooses not to abide by the customs there, they are more or else resident outcasts in ANAMBRA. Let me point it out for you. If your father gives your married sister a piece of an ancestral land as inheritance y her male siblings agree to it, if she then gets married to a Yoruba guy, how does her children cope with the inheritance of an ancestral piece of land that has been passed from generation to generation in the village(Uno)? it is a different thing if the land is in Lagos or Abuja but in the village no court can save her children. See? this is why I call you an Osu but you're worse off. Chimamanda was wise marrying a whiteman, but unfortunately for you. You're a man, albeit one walking with a gaping pussy. Tough luck for a fool like you. Any man who denies his culture is worse than an OSU and more malignant than a bastard. Please the prohibition of Igbo women from inheriting their fathers land is very real in your home town in idemilli, ideani and others, a man with much landed property without a male child is likely to be killed by his relatives in your community. If you deny it then you're devilish bloodsucking hoe. Obi1kenobi:I have written about this in my works and here in Nairaland as well. When last did you read anything outside Chimamanda worthless literary efforts that doesn't even mirror her background? " Why The Modern Woman Is Sad" 2015 by Lezz. You will find the statistical there. Don't try to wiggle your way by deflection. Obi1kenobi:I knew you were stupid but I didn't give you due credits for your genuine stupidity! Please does feminism not alter females lifestyle? If women are increasingly becoming working class and business women as against being housewives, will not there be more change of feeding habits, stress related ailment and High blood pressure? Obi, tell me how is it impossible not to cuss you to hell as a cyber-drunk illiterate who doesn't even see the world beyond Nairaland comment feed and Chimamanda's scripting. OSU! Obi1kenobi:women have always worked. You partially answered the query of the demons tormenting you. Obi1kenobi:does Sweden include rape to be acts without penetration? 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Acidosis(m): 12:04pm On Jun 19, 2018 |
Proudgorgeousga: Let me help you shape your thoughts. Marriage is deeply rooted in religion, okay? Religion is the reason you're desiring marriage. You can't love marriage between a man and a woman and hate religion. 3 Likes |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Nobody: 12:28pm On Jun 19, 2018 |
Acidosis: here you are again imposing your world view on me. marriage isn't rooted in religion. there are different forms of marriage. I choose the one that works for me thank you. non religious people get married all the time. you are not making any sense. 3 Likes |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Obi1kenobi(m): 12:34pm On Jun 19, 2018 |
Fearlez: She's entitled to speak about whatever the hell she chooses. It's a free society. I don't know which assertions I have no facts to back. Care to state them?
It's a throwaway comment on a comedy show interview. Not a "campaign" as you called it. Using the word "campaign" suggests she was working assiduously towards a goal. Which isn't what she did. Not my fault you couldn't find the right vocabulary to express yourself. You didn't "corner" me into anything other than exposing the holes in your assertion. But keep up with the chest beating. The Dunning-Kruger effect is strong in you. ![]()
The "stereotype" comes from the suppositions you made about her parents. You made a specific claim about them based on cultural norms as you interpret them. That something is a cultural norm doesn't mean any reasonable person would presume everyone from a group practices the same thing. More chest-beating stewpidity. It's entertaining. ![]()
Again, I'll repeat it so it can percolate through your thick skull - I haven't denied the discriminatory norms against women in my culture. My point was a hell of a lot of people are progressive enough to buck that trend. The fact remains I have female cousins who own their father's property and land in its entirety and they are unmolested. Plenty of Igbo women have fought these customs and won. Cases have gone as far as the Supreme Court and the custom has been invalidated. http://www.loc.gov/law/foreign-news/article/nigeria-supreme-court-invalidates-igbo-customary-law-denying-female-descendants-the-right-to-inherit/ Only impoverished women who can't afford legal counsel, or women who don't know their rights would be robbed of their inheritance in this age.
I don't give a shiit about whatever work you dragged from your arse. Show me the statistics you're talking about and we can discuss it in context with your points. Plenty of women who work do not identify themselves as "feminists". Your average Southern Republican in the US is hostile to liberal feminists. And still works her ass off. You attributed shortening reproductive life to feminism. Why not simply attribute it to greater work exertion. In your debased world view, feminism is the great evil. So I was asking, you also have a problem with women getting off their asses to work? They should be there to cook and clean and make babies and indulge your fragile male ego? ![]() 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Obi1kenobi(m): 12:43pm On Jun 19, 2018 |
Acidosis: Nobody has said anyone has to "switch roles". The issue is your definition of the roles and not the roles themselves. Your viewpoint presumes that just because a woman breastfeeds a child and you have a diick, that automatically makes you the dictator of the home. If you have a partner that submits to tthat view, good for you. Millions of men around the world have moved on from antiquated views like that and understand their responsibilities to their partners. Maybe your partner is not independent. Plenty of us have independent partners. ![]() 8 Likes |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie: A Crude Brand Of Feminism by Ewuro4: 12:44pm On Jun 19, 2018 |
crackhaus: She’ll prolly let the dust settle before responding or never. You know how this works, oyinbo are their demi-god. Leosch is one ruthless cat she doesn’t wanna banter with. hehe |
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