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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:19am On Jun 20, 2018 |
Liamm: The whole Senegalese team attacked as a unit played for each other and those guys were like IROKO trees. You literally had 7/8 Lukaku type power houses not scared to go toe to toe. PACE POWER DESIRE PRIDE Poland were TERRIFIED. Not many teams will want to play Senegal right now. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:20am On Jun 20, 2018 |
I honestly envy Senegal. See as they succeed with an indigenous coach who understands what it means to be Senegalese, the struggles and what a world cup win would mean for the country. A white man would never experience such intense emotions. Remember our success under Keshi (God rest his soul)?? We must return to those days in Jesus name!!!) 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:20am On Jun 20, 2018 |
somehow: The more apt term is educated illiterates. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:21am On Jun 20, 2018 |
Oasis007:And there was no beef when they were working together? Keshi and Amo? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 10:23am On Jun 20, 2018 |
Oasis007: I no get power oo,but as i see senegal players stats last season i just smile. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gamaliel9: 10:26am On Jun 20, 2018 |
ChrisKels: Good..what i am driving at is, WE NEED MORE PLAYERS TO BE TESTED BEFORE ANY WORLD CUP |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 10:27am On Jun 20, 2018 |
ChrisKels: ![]() The Question is; how are you sure there is no Beef among Senegal Team coaching Crew?! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:28am On Jun 20, 2018 |
AIG07:Sir,pls did i accused of tribalism? I read and quote liedetector and i told him to modified his comment cos it centred on a player making the team on federal character and some would see it as tribalism post. With due respect to liedetector,he came out and explained in details that his comment centred on 3-5-2 formation. I did not accused him but drew his attention to it and i did not even read your own post to accuse you of what? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 10:29am On Jun 20, 2018 |
andrew444: ![]() I wanna smile too, can you share their Stats pls?! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 10:29am On Jun 20, 2018 |
safarigirl: Omoge.... Easy na?....you have stuck with this team through thick and thin. Why you suddenly giving up? Naija can still qualify. We all know why our players played the way they did. First of all, it was the first game of the group for Nigeria, the pressure would be very enormous. I can understand that. Secondly their confidence level wss tampered with some friendlies ago. Trust me if they had won all the friendlies, they would have had the self belief. Which is why people are clamouring for team psychologist. Its a mental state the boys are. The state they were in when they lost to Soutn Africa. When they come out of it, they are a beauty to watch. The chief culprit is the man we have been singing his praises all this time. GERNOT ROHR!!! He just got found out and the disappointment is just kinda unbearable. With respect to having our local coaches tinker our senior teams, I have my reservstions. As a foreign technical adviser, we all saw what Rohr went through picking his team, brushing aside agents and sticking to performance. Our local coaches are willing to compromise integrity for a morsel of bread. Apart from the fact that they need to upgrade to world class coaches as many of them are bereft of ideas when the chips are down. The ones that actually are technically savvy will still be subjected to one useless technical committee approval which in most cases are comprised of ex internationals that cant coach. Another problem is If for instance, one of the coaches pick the best players and they all happen to be from a particular region, then other regions will cry marginalisation. If he happens to come from the region he picked from, people cry nepotism. When these coaches put their foot down on big players, we cry out and say he lacks man management. Exactly what do we want gaan sef? If you play for a coach that doesnt like losing, you will see it in the players that play for him. And if you see a man manager, you will also see it in the teams play. Losing is not a big deal to Rohr and that is what has transferred to the team. As for our own local coaches, if they can be true to the game, pick the best out of the best... and have the right Naija philosophy of play, are are given their respect and dues as at when due, we wont be in this mess. So in other words, we (Nigerians) are all responsible and culpable for whatever it is we are getting now. The good thing is NFF are doing their best to change the status quo. They prepared the team so very well, handled all bonuses, sorted camping sites and logistics which is a giant leap in my books considering what happened in Rio Olympics. (Wait! is it that we dont like things the easy way? Cos when things were rough and tough, our teams played with anger and passion). Or could it be that we respected a white man's world so much that we dont wanna come across as being stereotype when it comes to coaches and allowances? From Keshi, to Siasia, to Oliseh , to Amuneke ..., they all had issues except for the white man. Even our players are not helping matters. And that is why I never supported Enyeama in all the mess that happened cos we sold out authority and discipline on the altar of sentiments. Where is the respect for the local team coach? Once our players get to Europe, they forget that the National team played (or can and will still play) a part in their careers. Where is Enyeama now? Story for another day.... A lot of things come into play when it comes to choosing local coaches. Give Siasia these same set of boys and watch them play like crazy. Give oliseh the same set of boys all things being equal, you will see sound tactics. But when it comes to them choosing their players, its either nepotism, federal character or some useless "my boys" philosophy. Press and Media nko? When we are ready, we will do the right thing. Nobody should make excuses of Rohr prepared the team for only 2years. Thats mediocrity speaking. If you a tactician, you will know your teams problems and work on it immediately. When our goalies were busy messing up, who taught him to send goalie trainer to Uzoho? And mind you he did this in a short time. Imagine if he had been doing that since day 1? Long story short, if this team crashes out of this world cup, life will go on. Heck, when the Nations cup qualifiers start, we will still support them. We will all see the error of our ways and know that nothing is cast in stone. Please dont give up just yet..... #Naija4Life UPSuperEagles 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by aodis: 10:30am On Jun 20, 2018 |
Oasis007: Exactly! Cow-Tail |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:30am On Jun 20, 2018 |
andrew444: Kara Mbodji will displace any of our Centre backs, Etebo will sit for Kouyate and Iwobi will go to the middle and by so doing, Musa will sit for Balde. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:32am On Jun 20, 2018 |
gamaliel9: Were those guys I mentioned more tested than our untested players? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 10:38am On Jun 20, 2018 |
AIG07: Except you didnt write the comment i quoted yourself, it reeks of tribalism. Sorry sir but thats what it is. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 10:40am On Jun 20, 2018 |
ChrisKels: Thank you bros....Good point,what about our strikers? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 10:40am On Jun 20, 2018 |
ChrisKels: Exactly so |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 10:41am On Jun 20, 2018 |
LieDetector: Even if Rohr uses 3:5:2 and end up using Musa, how is it federal character? It wasn't federal character when Rohr used Iwobi as a winger in a 4:2:3:1 while benching Musa a winger? Brotherman say something else. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:43am On Jun 20, 2018 |
daveP: There is one MAJOR DIFFERENCE. I am unable to explain why but any Senegalese youngster showing little promise in thier local league will be in the French league 1, within weeks. This is a trend across the entire Francophone countries but more so in Senegal. This means thier youngsters probably don't even have to cut age because thier captured at the very local level before anybody knows them. They then go to very good professional clubs and get very good quality training at top academies. Most French league I clubs academies are dominated by Africans. Consider the French team it's essentially an African team. Evra and Viera former Captain's of the French team are from Senegal. I am sure the overwhelming majority of the Senegalese players have all played in France. They have a huge pool of quality talent. In contrast our colonial heritage is one of outright racism, exclusion, restrictions and discrimination. In actual fact it should be that Nigerian should be the overwhelming majority of African playing at all levels in English football. But it's the opposite there are more French African players in the EPL than ourselves. I tire for England sometimes. But it's changing there eye deh open small, see how the England team has much more African origin players than ever before. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:43am On Jun 20, 2018 |
andrew444: Sow, Sacko and even Omar niasse that was dropped for this world cup, will bench Ighalo. Let's leave papi Cisse and Ba for now. Guy Senegal have better players |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 10:46am On Jun 20, 2018 |
ChrisKels: Lol thats true,and if oumar niasse is a nigerian there is no way he wont be at the world cup 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 10:47am On Jun 20, 2018 |
komekn: How many senegaleese player has been transfered from their league to french league? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Liamm(m): 10:48am On Jun 20, 2018 |
komekn:the Senegalese players were huge. But they were also dynamic in their style of play. Ighalo is a typical example of a guy that wants you to get him a wife and also do the job of impregnating his wife for him. He has players willing to tee him up for goal but he lacks the intelligence to go about it. That's the area I think nacho trumps him. By the way, if the Senegalese attack was more clinical yesterday, that scoreline would have been worse for Poland. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:49am On Jun 20, 2018 |
Oasis007: So far, no recorded beef what so ever. Aliou is said to be easy to work with because he entertain ideas from his colleagues which has made them a Unit, and they have tried to transfer such Unity to their players which is evident with their style of play. They defend and attack as a unit, covering for each other. Oliseh, the over sabi coach is notorious for being difficult to work with. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 10:53am On Jun 20, 2018 |
Egyptian club are rich and consistent daveP: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:54am On Jun 20, 2018 |
andrew444: From our starting eleven, only Ndidi and iwobi can start for Senegal. Ndidi to partner Alfred Ndiaye while Iwobi plays in front of them. Moses cant make the team because he doesnt play Senegal kinda game. U saw how niang a good dribbler was spraying passes and chasing down lose balls unlike our mister aimless dribbler. Niang plays for the team, Moses doesnt. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:55am On Jun 20, 2018 |
gamaliel9: 100% correct. However, What is the nature of our testing. Senegalese players are proven, tried and tested why because they OVERWHELMING MAJORITY play week in week out in the French league 1. Senegal just has to select from a HUGE POOL you will hardly find any academy players in thier set up. The only issue they have nobody wants to be a goalkeeper. A team than can leave out Demba Ba and Papa Cisse who have decided to chop Chinese money. Has real strength in depth. Imagine we had Demba Ba and Cisse. All this stems from Senegals relationship with France i. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 10:57am On Jun 20, 2018 |
Odunayaw: It's in the mind. The lion is not the biggest animal in the jungle. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 10:59am On Jun 20, 2018 |
BTW, why is the government giving them extra money as motivation? Do you deserve to wear that jersey if you still need extra money for motivation? I am trying to understand, should they not even reject such gesture from the government if truly they have that patrotic spirit in them? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:01am On Jun 20, 2018 |
ChrisKels:Sir i want to draw your attention to a goal scored by Serbia against Nigeria during friendly that was not counted but with AVR it was a goal. A lot blamed Uzoho for the elementary error but after watching the match especially the error i discovered Awaziem caused it not even Uzoho. Right in the presence of Awaziem he was out jumped by a Serbian attacker who nodded the ball. Also remember first goal scored by South Africa against us in Uyo,the ball beat Awaziem easily on the air before South Africa player put his head into it and beat Akpeyi. Honestly it's baffling seeing tall guys like,Balogun, Omeruo,Ekong and Awaziem finding it difficult in set pieces situations and dealing with crosses during open play. I don't think our guys were this poor with set pieces in their various club sides but in national team something must be wronged. If Ranieri can come out that Awaziem is good on the air and then Rohr is not getting the tactical zoning marking right when it comes to set pieces and even in open play. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 11:06am On Jun 20, 2018 |
ChrisKels: ![]() Where are the Records of Discord between late Keshi and his Backroom Staff prior to AFCON 2013 Triumph?! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:09am On Jun 20, 2018 |
ChrisKels:Kai Chris,naija don't suffered,hope to see them redeemed their image against Iceland cos this comparison dey make me shake head o. 1 Like |
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