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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:09am On Jun 20, 2018
andrew444:


How many senegaleese player has been transfered from their league to french league?

It's literally a conveyor belt.

They sometimes don't even play for professional teams and Gbam they are in French league.

Ismaila Sarr went from local team Generation at age 17 to Metz on a 5 year contract signed in July within 2/3 weeks he made his debut.

Next season Metz (that's under 9 months) sold him for €20 Million to Rennes. See bizness I'm sure Metz paid peanuts to Generation comparatively for him.

This is a more pronounced case but it's very common to go straight from Senegal local to France. It's why thier local league is not outstanding. All the talents font waste time to leave.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:09am On Jun 20, 2018
andrew444:


Lol thats true,and if oumar niasse is a nigerian there is no way he wont be at the world cup

If you followed the French ligue 1&2, you would be marveled by the number of Senegalese origin players in France and many are ready to rep Senegal. Did you know that Aissa Mendy of Nice (on loan from Leicester) and Haidara of new Castle haven't seen that they have no future with France, wouldn't turn down Senegal?

But that said, Senegal FA mumu also for failing to spot Kante when he a nobody playing in ligue 2

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:13am On Jun 20, 2018
Oasis007:


grin

Where are the Records of Discord between late Keshi and his Backroom Staff prior to AFCON 2013 Triumph?!

U said pre not post, neither did u say pre and post. When you are serious, we go continue bro
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 11:14am On Jun 20, 2018
somehow:
BTW, why is the government giving them extra money as motivation? Do you deserve to wear that jersey if you still need extra money for motivation?

I am trying to understand, should they not even reject such gesture from the government if truly they have that patrotic spirit in them?


We knw what money does to we blacks,stop acting like a white man,

Money motivates us more,even though we knw dts not d right way.but hey,its part and parcel of us.


I knw if u re offered 10times of what u earn in ur present work,I knw u will leave dere,even if u re passionate abt d job cool

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:20am On Jun 20, 2018
Kog45:
Kai Chris,naija don't suffered,hope to see them redeemed their image against Iceland cos this comparison dey me make shake head o.

You can prove me wrong bro.

Salif and koulibaly are better than BaloKong. Idowu has nothing on Sabaly neither does Shehu on Wague. Come to the middle, Etebo, Onazi etc have nothing on both Kouyate and n'diaye of Villarreal. Only Ndidi can stand to be counted here. In the attacking midfield, iwobi can stake a claim but on the wings, the likes of Musa have nothing on Balde, Mane et al, then strikers, Ighalo can only dream of putting half the show Niang put.


But if Cisse had Kelechi and decided to tweak his formation, he might have the trio of Mane, Kelechi and Niang starting for him to give him more lethal front. Niang is a knock down master with this strength and height which could benefit the left leg of Iheanacho. Otherwise, I am sorry KC also can't start for them.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 11:21am On Jun 20, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


Sounds like 3-5-2 loading. Shehu dropped for Ebuehi, Moses moves to left wingback and Ndidi dropped to accommodate Mikel.

Wrong move if true. I'll rather go with Ndidi
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by LieDetector(m): 11:22am On Jun 20, 2018
AIG07:
You can all see now.

I do check moniker before I quote them.

I knew you made that comment on a presumptive basis that Rohr intends switching to 3-5-2 formation.
Exactly Sir. How some people equate that to being tribalistic is mind boggling.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 11:23am On Jun 20, 2018
safarigirl:
This Rohr just dey funny me. I he likes, he can pack short players against giants, they will cage all of them the sane way they caged the great Messi and even worse, all the FKs wey dem get go just dey enter net.

Abeg, I no come this morning to yarn Super Eagles matter, I just want to remind everyone that Senegal is the only African nation that went to Russia with an indigenous coach and look how well they did yesteryesterday.

Perhaps their coach was not feeding them tales of how much better Lewandoski is. Do they have a team psychologist? Most likely, no.

What Senegal has that Nigeria obviously doesn't is PRIDE. They had PASSION. That is what PATRIOTISM is about. So, Ogu should go and ask them what's up next time he wants to feed us trash.

The Senegalese team is allergic to losing. You see it when they play, all you see when Nigeria plays is tired, lazy, losers with slave mentality. Always bowing to their white massas.

Good morning guys.
And they also have better players than we do.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by LieDetector(m): 11:29am On Jun 20, 2018
somehow:


Even if Rohr uses 3:5:2 and end up using Musa, how is it federal character?

It wasn't federal character when Rohr used Iwobi as a winger in a 4:2:3:1 while benching Musa a winger?

Brotherman say something else.
Iwobi was used because he's the most creative attacker we have currently. Optimizing his strength is what we clamor for and not repeating same mistake all over. Talk about fitting square peg into a round hole.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 11:31am On Jun 20, 2018
ChrisKels:
Did you know that Senegal's coaching crew is made up of their 2002 team?

Aliuo Cisse, Tony Syria, Omar Daf, Lamine Diatta.

But down here, Siasia, Oliseh, Amunike and Finidi fit work together without beef? I doubt


Naija which way?
For where?? Oliseh will refuse to work as an assistant.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:32am On Jun 20, 2018
ChrisKels:


If you followed the French ligue 1&2, you would be marveled by the number of Senegalese origin players in France and many are ready to rep Senegal. Did you know that Aissa Mendy of Nice (on loan from Leicester) and Haidara of new Castle haven't seen that they have no future with France, wouldn't turn down Senegal?

But that said, Senegal FA mumu also for failing to spot Kante when he a nobody playing in ligue 2

Ngolo Kante is from Mali I think
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:33am On Jun 20, 2018
komekn:


It's literally a conveyor belt.

They sometimes don't even play for professional teams and Gbam they are in French league.

Ismaila Sarr went from local team Generation at age 17 to Metz on a 5 year contract signed in July within 2/3 weeks he made his debut.

Next season Metz (that's under 9 months) sold him for €20 Million to Rennes. See bizness I'm sure Metz paid peanuts to Generation comparatively for him.

This is a more pronounced case but it's very common to go straight from Senegal local to France. It's why thier local league is not outstanding. All the talents font waste time to leave.

I agree with you
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 11:35am On Jun 20, 2018
elyte89:



We knw what money does to we blacks,stop acting like a white man,

Money motivates us more,even though we knw dts not d right way.but hey,its part and parcel of us.


I knw if u re offered 10times of what u earn in ur present work,I knw u will leave dere,even if u re passionate abt d job cool
How can you be comparing work that is done to earn profit for the company with repping your country?

The worldcup is not a place where countries go to make money, infact governments even spend more to get their team ready compared to the financial gains. It's for pride, recognition and collective growth.

That you can even compare repping your government in a sporting event where you are just there for max 1 month before going back to your clubside where you earn your weekly wage says alot about us in this country that sees money as god!

I guess Senegals are indians or hispanic? Please post any article here where they were induced with money to perform.

Then also tell us that of the other 3 African representative. It's a Nigerian thing and has less to the with being blacks.

Never heard of such with South Africans, Zambians et.c
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:37am On Jun 20, 2018
ChrisKels:


From our starting eleven, only Ndidi and iwobi can start for Senegal. Ndidi to partner Alfred Ndiaye while Iwobi plays in front of them.

Moses cant make the team because he doesnt play Senegal kinda game. U saw how niang a good dribbler was spraying passes and chasing down lose balls unlike our mister aimless dribbler. Niang plays for the team, Moses doesnt.

Moses might make the team.

Ebuehi can make the team,Senegal right back who played yesterday against Poland plays for eupen and he is 19 so ebuehi will make the team.

Nacho will make the team,if diouf can make the team nacho will,diouf played mostly wing back for stoke so you can see.

Mbaye Niang is not a better player than nacho also trust me
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:38am On Jun 20, 2018
andrew444:

Ngolo Kante is from Mali I think
You are right bro.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:39am On Jun 20, 2018
I never knew this. Just the other day I called for a consortium of the best indigenous coaches. I didn’t get one like. I’m not saying Senegal will win the World Cup, but we do have better tacticians compared to those half baked coaches we employ just because they are white. I hope Rohr does well. I’ve not tagged him a failure yet. You are going to get a foreign coach, let him be PROVEN and as well heart ready for the Nigerian project.

ChrisKels:
Did you know that Senegal's coaching crew is made up of their 2002 team?

Aliuo Cisse, Tony Syria, Omar Daf, Lamine Diatta.

But down here, Siasia, Oliseh, Amunike and Finidi fit work together without beef? I doubt


Naija which way?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 11:40am On Jun 20, 2018
somehow:


I guess Senegals are indians or hispanic? Please post any article here where they were induced with money to perform.

Then also tell us that of the other 3 African representative. It's a Nigerian thing and has less to the with being blacks.

Never heard of such with South Africans, Zambians et.c


Ogbeni,me no dey get time to dey dig post, am not dt passionate abt argument


I av said d plain truth,blacks majorly are motivated with money above any oda thing cool
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:42am On Jun 20, 2018
isan:
Egyptian club are rich and consistent
Oga we are talking of what that has given them globally.

They are rich and consistent in still dominating the African continent. simple!!!

They should be doing much more by now with that cash. They dominate African, but their best are afraid of playing the epl or the LA Liga, why?

They prefer to stay in Zamalek or AlAhly.

Why?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:43am On Jun 20, 2018
andrew444:


Only EU issues and U.K. Work permit issues African normally have problem with.

Stoke got etebo for 7.5 million euros,for example of a club bring 15million they might do business

Still doesn't make sense to me. He is just too good to be there.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:44am On Jun 20, 2018
andrew444:


Moses might make the team.

Ebuehi can make the team,Senegal right back who played yesterday against Poland plays for eupen and he is 19 so ebuehi will make the team.

Nacho will make the team,if diouf can make the team nacho will,diouf played mostly wing back for stoke so you can see.

Mbaye Niang is not a better player than nacho also trust me

We were talking about our respective starting lineups in this first round, not the over all team.

Ebuehi and Nacho didn't start for us na, but yes those two could start for Senegal ahead of Wague and Diouf respectively
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:44am On Jun 20, 2018
ChrisKels:


You are right bro.

If Kante was not good enough he might end up playing for Mali by now.

There is a guy who plays right back for marseille and he was impressive this season he even played in the europa league final,Senegal coach called him for the World Cup and he turned down stating he wanted to play for France,but this guy is already 26 and France is yet to even give him a look.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 11:45am On Jun 20, 2018
LieDetector:
Iwobi was used because he's the most creative attacker we have currently. Optimizing his strength is what we clamor for and not repeating same mistake all over. Talk about fitting square peg into a round hole.

Used from the wings because of his "creative attacking prowess" ogini? Why not used in the middle since he's creative and someone else used from the wing?

Bro, the only issue some of us have with you is that you tried to make it sound tribal if or when someone else from another region is used to repeat the same thing Rohr already did.

No need explaining yourself again and lets move on. Just remove tribal slum ftom your deductions and always think both ways before making your opinion known.

One love..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:46am On Jun 20, 2018
In fact, I’m lost for words. You too like truth
safarigirl:
This Rohr just dey funny me. I he likes, he can pack short players against giants, they will cage all of them the sane way they caged the great Messi and even worse, all the FKs wey dem get go just dey enter net.

Abeg, I no come this morning to yarn Super Eagles matter, I just want to remind everyone that Senegal is the only African nation that went to Russia with an indigenous coach and look how well they did yesteryesterday.

Perhaps their coach was not feeding them tales of how much better Lewandoski is. Do they have a team psychologist? Most likely, no.

What Senegal has that Nigeria obviously doesn't is PRIDE. They had PASSION. That is what PATRIOTISM is about. So, Ogu should go and ask them what's up next time he wants to feed us trash.

The Senegalese team is allergic to losing. You see it when they play, all you see when Nigeria plays is tired, lazy, losers with slave mentality. Always bowing to their white massas.

Good morning guys.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 11:46am On Jun 20, 2018
gamaliel9:
This Senegalese team has been on for more that four years now....our 1994 team was from 1990 up to 1998....This team is just about two years...Germany started rebuilding after 2014..they are still on it....what i am driving at is even if we crash out.... Rohr has done a good job....four year is ok for a coach to build a winning team...i am not excusing him for lacklustre performance against Croatia nor the players...but i am looking at long term....our player turnover for national team these days is today....Westerhof used more than 120 players before he arrived at 1994 world cup ticket.


Excuse. Every team is always in transition. It's not am the players that started matches for westerhof in 1992 that started his matches in 1994. This our team missed out in 2 afcon we shouldn't be talking about building 3 years on. We have always building- Mikel, Onazi, etc has been in this team for long. When will building stop? Without bravery we'll be claiming building for the future till eternity.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:47am On Jun 20, 2018
ChrisKels:


We were talking about our respective starting lineups in this first round, not the over all team.

Ebuehi and Nacho didn't start for us na, but yes those two could start for Senegal ahead of Wague and Diouf respectively

That's true
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 11:47am On Jun 20, 2018
elyte89:



Ogbeni,me no dey get time to dey dig post, am not dt passionate abt argument


I av said d plain truth,blacks majorly are motivated with money above any oda thing cool

Your truth lack substance so it remains your opinion and not "truth".

Most Nigerians see money as god and not majority of blacks.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:48am On Jun 20, 2018
komekn:


There is one MAJOR DIFFERENCE.

I am unable to explain why but any Senegalese youngster showing little promise in thier local league will be in the French league 1, within weeks.

This is a trend across the entire Francophone countries but more so in Senegal.

This means thier youngsters probably don't even have to cut age because thier captured at the very local level before anybody knows them.

They then go to very good professional clubs and get very good quality training at top academies. Most French league I clubs academies are dominated by Africans.

Consider the French team it's essentially an African team. Evra and Viera former Captain's of the French team are from Senegal.

I am sure the overwhelming majority of the Senegalese players have all played in France. They have a huge pool of quality talent.

In contrast our colonial heritage is one of outright racism, exclusion, restrictions and discrimination. In actual fact it should be that Nigerian should be the overwhelming majority of African playing at all levels in English football. But it's the opposite there are more French African players in the EPL than ourselves.

I tire for England sometimes.

But it's changing there eye deh open small, see how the England team has much more African origin players than ever before.

You have a very valid point here. But I consider it footballing slavery @francophone transfers.

It's yielded good results however. The English are known to never be good at watching others come to take glory. so they overhyped their own. Drogba was the best francophone to ever make the epl look simple. They couldn't dispute that.

But Even Alli is still getting his own boos and racism attacks yet.


Sorry for the English peeps.


It will truly be a big boost for our league if English scouts come every time in a season to take the league's best to the epl. But it has one major disaster... our league would be in shambles and a cesspit of kwaruption than it currently is.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:56am On Jun 20, 2018
andrew444:


If Kante was not good enough he might end up playing for Mali by now.

There is a guy who plays right back for marseille and he was impressive this season he even played in the europa league final,Senegal coach called him for the World Cup and he turned down stating he wanted to play for France,but this guy is already 26 and France is yet to even give him a look.

If Kante had been approached earlier, he would have turned out for Mali because he actually wanted to play for Mali.

About your second paragraph, such guys exist, even down here at even 28, I doubt Ibe and Solanke, Adarabioyo and their ilks, would still listen to Nigeria
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 11:56am On Jun 20, 2018
ChrisKels:


U said pre not post, neither did u say pre and post. When you are serious, we go continue bro

grin

Let's forget it Bruh. I believe you are still hurting coz the Loss is still haunting you. I pray we win our next Match, otherwise I pity what's gonna become of this Thread if we lose to the Icelanders.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 12:03pm On Jun 20, 2018
ChrisKels:


If Kante had been approached earlier, he would have turned out for Mali because he actually wanted to play for Mali.

About your second paragraph, such guys exist, even down here at even 28, I doubt Ibe and Solanke, Adarabioyo and their ilks, would still listen to Nigeria

Lol about Ibe and co that's true
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Vivianoasis(f): 12:08pm On Jun 20, 2018
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 12:10pm On Jun 20, 2018
Oasis007:


grin

Let's forget it Bruh. I believe you are still hurting coz the Loss is still haunting you. I pray we win our next Match, otherwise I pity what's gonna become of this Thread if we lose to the Icelanders.

Lol bro, I take solace in what lies ahead, when I remember the boys coming through, my heart is filled wt joy. Thats the reason I want this world cup to end already. We should start by recriuting Anyanwu Billing because Ndidi needs a suitable partner at the base of our midfield

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