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Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Julivas(m): 6:54pm On Jun 10, 2018 |
earthsync:Not compulsory, but it is good for your spiritual journey if you don't misuse it. Thanks. |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Pasqual(m): 7:52am On Jun 13, 2018 |
Abiso2017:What other answers do you need? The fact is that you actually came here to argue.. Your becoming a Christian does no help God... He's already God... It helps only you so why not help yourself?? |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Sheridale(f): 5:30am On Jun 15, 2018 |
Analysis of Section Initiate Degree 4 Monograph 5 (Defending AMORC against Pierre S. Freeman Critics) The above explanation applies to us as well. At death, we lose our Vital Force and cosmic essence, which moves to the ether as our physical body disintegrates. And hence nothing is and nothing is created or destroyed as they all return to their original sources. Our life on earth owes its existence to a superior creative intelligence, as we humans cannot create. And even though we are able to reproduce offspring though childbirth, it is not equal to creation something new. Even the human personality changes constantly throughout the human life. Death is our only escape from personality and body form changes, yet change continues in disintegration. This meticulous and detailed explanation of creation in the monograph dispels Pierre S. Freeman’s claims of being unscientific. ___________________________________________________________ The basis of the current monograph under review is formed by the work of Nodin in his manuscript and Heraclitus’s thoughts on the relevant subject. You must have observed from the reviews of previous monograph that Nodin’s manuscript contains a statement that is found in several religious theologies. The statement in question talks about man being a living soul, formed from dust and powered by the breath of life. Heraclitus, on the other hand was all about the philosophy of unqualified becoming. By this philosophy he meant to explain that the one common property that we all have is change. He further explained that this is so because stability and stagnancy eludes human beings. No living being experiences the exact same moment and even non-living beings don’t remain the same after being handled. The review of the Greek philosopher’s beliefs was cited from the Encyclopaedia; please refer to it to get the full information from the monograph. The monograph closes the discussion on Nodin’s manuscript, citing from it another statement which goes thus:”All birth is death. All death is rebirth”. The interpretation of the first part “all birth is death” explains that at birth, one gives up the cosmic plane to be in the natural plane. In the light of this particular interpretation, birth is a cosmic death that witnesses one losing their spirituality. The concluding clause, “all death is rebirth” reflects on the fact that at death, it is the human beings who give up the physical plane to gain the spiritual plane. Since this spiritual or cosmic plane is our home, death is interpreted as rebirth of the living being. This aligns with the thoughts of great philosophers like Pythagoras who is credited for his famous statement that says “death and life are one and the same.” In line with Heraclitus on the subject of becoming, Nodin makes yet another statement which reads, “Nothing is destroyed, nor is anything created”. Heraclitus had stated something similar in the year 500 B.C. with the statement, “Nothing can be destroyed and everything is in perpetual becoming”. Energies like soul i.e. nous, the Vital Force and Spirit, were neither created and cannot be destroyed. Other fields such as science and mystics hold this belief as well. It should also be noted that when things lose form due to change, the new form has the same internal component of the old form. An example is that same atoms present in a glass cup are the same present in it when it shatters into shards, even though the form or shape is lost. This is the reason it is difficult for anything to reduce to a point of non-existence. The above explanation applies to us as well. At death, we lose our Vital Force and cosmic essence, which moves to the ether as our physical body disintegrates. And hence nothing is and nothing is created or destroyed as they all return to their original sources. Our life on earth owes its existence to a superior creative intelligence, as we humans cannot create. And even though we are able to reproduce offspring though childbirth, it is not equal to creation something new. Even the human personality changes constantly throughout the human life. Death is our only escape from personality and body form changes, yet change continues in disintegration. This meticulous and detailed explanation of creation in the monograph dispels Pierre S. Freeman’s claims of being unscientific. Support AMORC at : www.watchingout4AMORC.org Please like us on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/watchingout4AMORC/
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Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by mukhtara446(m): 11:37am On Jun 16, 2018 |
I'm a Muslim, I have a question about Christianity Someone said Jesus died For My Sin, please i want to know which sin. |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Julivas(m): 11:18pm On Jun 17, 2018 |
mukhtara446: Thanks for asking without abusing. I appreciate. Sin is simply going against the will and commandments of God. |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by mukhtara446(m): 1:21am On Jun 18, 2018 |
Julivas:ok thanks, but someone said Jesus died for my sin, so that i will be forgiven, So i don't understand its before i come to this world or After in the future when i start sinning. Or maybe i don't get what he said right, if i may asked who is Jesus to me. |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Julivas(m): 10:20am On Jun 18, 2018 |
mukhtara446:Nice one bro. Everyone born of woman or any other means is a sinner. Why this? Because Adam, the first human being sinned from the beginning, thus transferring the seed of sin to human race. In the olden days, when sin is committed, there is a provison to sacrifice animal and use the blood as atonement for the sin committed. As time goes on, it became more difficult to be using animal blood each time one commits a sin, thus God in HIS infinite love sent Jesus Christ to die once for the remission of all sins, His blood he shed on the cross of Calvary was made available for all and sundry for the remission of sins irrespective of race, ethnicity or religion. No need to use animal blood again. Hallelujah. .... |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by mukhtara446(m): 11:18am On Jun 18, 2018 |
[/size][size=8pt][b][/b] Julivas:Ok but jesus isn't born of a woman, how did he come to earth, thanks |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Ruzuman: 2:12pm On Jun 18, 2018 |
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Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Oluwasegun7(m): 5:57pm On Jun 18, 2018 |
Psalm 72:9 "They that dwell in the wilderness shall bow before him; and his enemies shall lick the dust". Worship has been taken to the wilderness as the Abomination of Desolation sits in the Temple of God! |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by sheddyboy01(m): 9:43pm On Jun 18, 2018 |
I need Clarification pls, does fasting makes prayer much more effective? 1 Like |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by AM488: 9:52am On Jun 19, 2018 |
mukhtara446: Why do you say that Jesus was not born of a woman? What about Mary the mother of Jesus? Maryam? |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by AM488: 9:55am On Jun 19, 2018 |
sheddyboy01: Isaiah 58 tells us why we fast. vs 6-12 6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke? 7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh? 8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward. 9 Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity; 10 And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noonday: 11 And the LORD shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not. 12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in. |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by AM488: 10:00am On Jun 19, 2018 |
WIXE: One does not learn how to speak in tongues. Jesus Christ will baptize with the Holy Ghost, and the tongues come with that experience. |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by AM488: 10:27am On Jun 19, 2018 |
Abiso2017: Abiso, If you want to know about Jesus, ask Him. You can find these answers online. If you are being sincere, Jesus will respond to you. If you are looking for strife and debate, Jesus will probably not respond to you. Just talk to Jesus. He can hear you. |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by sheddyboy01(m): 10:54am On Jun 19, 2018 |
AM488:Thanks , I appreciate this. |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by mukhtara446(m): 4:02pm On Jun 19, 2018 |
AM488:Ohh we are talking with someone he said everyone born out of a woman has a sin, but Jesus has no sin, so i guess maybe he is not born out of a women,Maybe iam wrong if you care to explain about the sin and jesus, and out of a woman thing thanks. |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Julivas(m): 10:14pm On Jun 19, 2018 |
mukhtara446:Yeah everyone born of a woman is a sinner. Jesus Christ was born by a woman, but in a unique way. No sex between a man and a woman before He was conceived. Jesus Christ was conceived by Mary through the Holy Spirit sent by God. |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by mukhtara446(m): 1:35am On Jun 20, 2018 |
Julivas:ok what about Adam |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Julivas(m): 2:46pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
mukhtara446:Thanks for your inquisition. Adam was the one that transfer the seed of sin to all race |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by UserX18: 3:19pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
YOU see When someone asks you a question in order to bring up a debate. Do not give such a one a chance to ridicule our Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus didn’t answer all the questions when he was being questioned, take heed to the questions you answer. God created everyone with a will, He gave us the will to choose life and death. God has a will and he created us too to have our own will, choose whom you’ll serve. No true christian can force you to become a christian. CHOOSE WHOM YOU’ll serve. Who are you to say, until your questions are being answered before you become a Christian!!!! Our God is no respecter of persons..... It is a gift. Also please if you do not know much about the word of God, do Not meddle with it. |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by UserX18: 3:22pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 KJV What does it mean to believe in Jesus? And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. 1 John 2:3-6 KJV |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by UserX18: 3:30pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Julivas:Jesus was born the same way people are born today. He was born of a virgin just to fulfill the word of God. What makes Jesus special is not the way he was born. That is physical. What makes him special is that , from birth, he was born of the spirit of God. He was in this same flesh as we all are now. And he did not sin, because he obeyed wholly the will of God. “not my Will, but your WILL be done oh Lord”. It is only through the Spirit of Jesus->The spirit of God (same spirit) that a man can know the will of God and please God wholly... and when one has the spirit of God, he automatically becomes the son of God just the way Jesus is the son of God, but Jesus showed us the way. He is our King, and also a brother. Making us joint-heirs with God. 1 Like |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Abiso2017: 12:30am On Jun 21, 2018 |
AM488:Sorry just answer my questions |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by mukhtara446(m): 2:21am On Jun 21, 2018 |
Julivas:ok but he is not born out of a woman, Please explained to me the difference between his sin, And the born of a woman sin. And how a father can transfer the seed of sin to his children. |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by mukhtara446(m): 3:31am On Jun 21, 2018 |
UserX18:what you said make sense to some extent, but what my faith teach me is that, everyone has a spirit(soul) from God sent, with a angel assigned by God, And it teaches me that i have to follow the will of God not My will as in my choice(whims and desires), because the way of life that i followed it's self means summiting and who follow it is called (WhomSummited) base on this explanation and what you said above can i said me and Jesus follow the same way of life. |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Pasqual(m): 6:18am On Jun 21, 2018 |
No need to argue and cause people to debate. When they gave birth to you, did you bear your mothers name or your fathers' name? His name was transferred.. The same way with sin... Anybody delivered through that act of sex becomes sinful. The Holy Ghost overshadowed Mary and she delivered Jesus. That's a miraculous delivery. Hence, Jesus was delivered without sin not that Mary was not a sinner.. |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by UserX18: 8:45am On Jun 21, 2018 |
Pasqual:A Miraculous delivery or whatever you call it... the whole conclusion of the matter is that. Anyone who is born of the spirit of God becomes the way Jesus is, no difference. You become as one who never sinned. You become pure. The holy spirit quickens you,you become alive. Forget about the way Jesus was born, Jesus came to save our souls, the bible is to make us wise unto salvation, do not turn it into a stumbling block for yourself. � |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by UserX18: 8:50am On Jun 21, 2018 |
mukhtara446: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 KJV What does it mean to believe in Jesus? And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. 1 John 2:3-6 KJV |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Julivas(m): 9:06am On Jun 21, 2018 |
mukhtara446:Yeah, he is not born of a woman because he is the first human being to be created. The plan of God is to have fellowship with man always. After Adam ate the forbidden fruit, the act made him to disobey the commandment of God. That is how sin enters the human race, though not born of a woman but he sinned by disobeying God. It was in that condition that he started giving birth to offspring, thus transferring the the seed of sin to human race. Second question. The same way a child carries the the DNA of his father. |
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Julivas(m): 9:11am On Jun 21, 2018 |
Pasqual and UserX18, you are both saying the same thing, no cause for argument. One love brethren. |
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