nigeriancritic1:
Now this is the best advice. it happened to me In 2008. Make a full written honest account as per the debt you owed them. from the final balance deduct your salaries and entitlements. write the balance, sign and submit it to the company and keep a copy. Let them know the document is copied by writing CC. copy your guarantors and submit copies to them.
they will think twice before taking any step against you.

God bless u. He shd also include a copy of his employment letter where they promise to pay for his services monthly and they breach.

lawman88:


Okay. Thanks. God bless you

God bless you too.

I have never ever been to a courtroom. Who knew our courts and legal system were established on sentiments and morality?

I hear you.

owomida1:


You still don't get it. It will never get to that extent of being cuffed or jailed. He never held anything while his salary was intact. This is a clear consequence of the company's actions. It is clearly stated on his employment letter what date and how much his salary would be paid. They breached that contract first(unless you disagree that an employment letter is a binding contract between the employer & employee), which led to his actions. There are so many defences he could put up. Psychological excuses come first. OP could have a dying relative that needs financial care.
The list goes on and on. I am sure you have never witnessed a court proceeding by the way you respond to this issue.

Sterope:
I have never ever been to a courtroom. Who knew our courts and legal system were established on sentiments and morality?

I hear you.

You are already wired to fear your employer. Good luck getting used everywhere you go.

So you admitted to stealing their money? Perfect!

Fortunately for you, what happened to you is called LUCK. Not everyone would be as lucky as you were. You need not advise people to take the same steps that may guarantee them a jail term at most or sleepovers in jail at the very least.

nigeriancritic1:
Now this is the best advice. it happened to me In 2008. Make a full written honest account as per the debt you owed them. from the final balance deduct your salaries and entitlements. write the balance, sign and submit it to the company and keep a copy. Let them know the document is copied by writing CC. copy your guarantors and submit copies to them. start looking for job.
they will think twice before taking any step against you.

Yes sir!

owomida1:


You are already wired to fear your employer. Good luck getting used everywhere you go.

Sterope:
So you admitted to stealing their money? Perfect!

Fortunately for you, what happened to you is called LUCK. Not everyone would be as lucky as you were. You need not advise people to take the same steps that may guarantee them a jail term at most or sleepovers in jail at the very least.

My dear, who is more culpable? How do they expect him to fend for his family while witholding is salary? You think judges have no emotions?
In fact, he should put human rights organizations on alert. I suspect you are doing the same to your workers.

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See you need to understand that morality is not the same thing as legality.

nigeriancritic1:

My dear, who is more culpable? How do they expect him to fend for his family while witholding is salary? You think judges have no emotions?
In fact, he should put human rights organizations in alert.

Justnora:
Well I stopped at you no longer remitting money back that is an offense even if you are not paid you have to leave the job than stealing. Now your actions is going to affect innocent lives this is Nigeria where you know once you have money you can win any court case even murder.

So my dear kindly refund the little you have apologize and quit tho its painful but it is going to save you a lot of stress

You are on point.

Celcius:
You've paid yourself already na.
Withholding company fund and still going to work?
Wouldn't it have been safer if you claimed burglary or craft something to defend how the fund got missing and feign the incapacity to pay, so the fund be deducted from your salary then?

Megamind. Please how can we break into CBN and blame buhaari

effty:
Kids everywhere.

You are the kid here.


The op should have resigned after the first or second month on non payment of his salaries. Then he can get a Lawyer to fight his course.


But he hanged on for 5 months and at the same time, stealing from the company.

He really has no case here.

I only feel for the person's who provided guarantee for him.

jaxxy:


Company withholding ur salary isn't stealing from u rite?

If not for the system we are in, companies like dis are dealt with appropriately. Now this guy took matters into his hand and labeled stealing true bt the logical solution is to make the necessary deductions and let him go. Going for his guarantors is just blackmail tactics. They are criminals.

Ps: this is different from federal or state service where u are 100% sure of being paid at sm point and given gratuity when u leave. This is a well calculated job scam where they make u work bt have no intention to pay u for ur work it as a bridge of ur contract also. It is against the law. They are cooprate scammers!!!

Company not Paying you is also a crime but you need to understand the country we are in. If he is the only one getting the heat no wahala but others are getting dragged into the matter.

They cannot arrest your Guarantors. They don't have such right unless if ur guarantors are dummies.

In the contract papers ur guarantors signed, dey did not sign that u will never take the company money illegally. Dey did not sign that the character they know u of will be consistent. Ofcourse no one can sign for such.

What ur guarantors signed on ur behalf is that they know u very well and in case of any eventuality, they will give a detailed account of ur whereabouts or produce u.
Now, u did not ran away. Ur firm sees u daily and u communicate with dem. At this point, ur guarantor has no case to answer. The highest they can do is to call them and ask them to help in talking to u or summon a meeting between you, ur guarantors and the firm.

Report this issue to ur lawyer and the case will become simplified. Ur firm will be scared of litigation. Let ur lawyer write to them.

ur action is wrong and its a crime. u should perfect ur statement so that u will not blame your self. don't say u withhold the money because ur salary is not paid. find another reason and u can later plea that the money should be deduct from your salary or entitlement

Justnora:


Company not Paying you is also a crime but you need to understand the country we are in. If he is the only one getting the heat no wahala but others are getting dragged into the matter.

I see ur point bt its sad when a company legally owes ur money u can't go and arrest them. Very unfair.

I understand the challenges of the economy and trust me I know wat sm small, medium and start up companies face bt these companies shud know how to manage their staffs in a fair manner cos they are also facing same general economic hardship.

uboma:



You are the kid here.


The op should have resigned after the first or second month on non payment of his salaries. Then he can get a Lawyer to fight his course.


But he hanged on for 5 months and at the same time, stealing from the company.

He really has no case here.

I only feel for the person's who provided guarantee for him.

Another kid on the loose. I guess you are as stupid as the company's management. If not, you will sit back and analyse the issue at hand. The company breached his contract by not paying him his salary as at when due. You pity those that stood as guarantor for him as if you know what it takes to be a guarantor. I dare them to make good their threat.

effty:
Another kid on the loose. I guess you are as stupid as the company's management. If not, you will sit back and analyse the issue at hand. The company breached his contract by not paying him his salary as at when due. You pity those that stood as guarantor for him as if you know what it takes to be a guarantor. I dare them to make good their threat.

Your reasoning is so childish.


Go look for your mates to play sand and water with.

I will not oblige you with a response after this.

uboma:



Your reasoning is so childish.


Go look for your mates to play sand and water with.

I will not oblige you with a response after this.

Only if you knew how stupid you sound. Lousy moderator.

If you are in Abuja, bring the case to Brekete Family on Human Right Radio 10.1 FM-Abuja, where Ordinary Ahmed Isa will help you "free of charge" to get all your entitlement.

Justnora:
Well I stopped at you no longer remitting money back that is an offense even if you are not paid you have to leave the job than stealing. Now your actions is going to affect innocent lives this is Nigeria where you know once you have money you can win any court case even murder.

So my dear kindly refund the little you have apologize and quit tho its painful but it is going to save you a lot of stress

DO NOT FOLLOW THIS ADVICE.

Speak with a lawyer first! Don't spend the money but do hold on to it and let the Court decide.

The company is already in grave breach of Nigerian labor laws. They dare not take you to Court anyway. And if they do you will win.

Finally, THEY HAVE NO POWER TO ARREST YOUR GUARANTORS.

jaxxy:


I see ur point bt its sad when a company legally owes ur money u can't go and arrest them. Very unfair.

I understand the challenges of the economy and trust me I know wat sm small, medium and start up companies face bt these companies shud know how to manage their staffs in a fair manner cos they are also facing same general economic hardship.

My advice to must people is when you don't receive salary up to two months just leave cause from two months it gets to 5years.

In Nigeria you see a CEO owing salary but is contesting for a position or better still builds himself a house and has not yet settled his workers it happens to teachers in some states and if that teacher goes to steal now no one will blame the governor but the theif might be beaten to death.

Op just think about the guarantors and not just yourself you are going to lose hella trust from people.

Google “ know your right “ I’m pretty sure they have some qualified lawyers that will give you an advice on this matter and is free of charge.

you should have resigned honorably and use the non payment of salaries as the reason, not using your guarantors as shield for your fraudulent tendencies.

now you have given them an excuse not to pay you the entitlements and proven to your guarantors that you re a thief and a reputational risk to them.

always protect your guarantors, that you re guaranteed is not a license to steal from employer.

Ogbeni,

Get a good lawyer and sue them. But be open enough to the lawyer, give a detailed briefing and be sure you are not just acting being a victim here, if truly they owed you that much and the contract between you and the company is clear that you will get monthly salary and not commission payment based on percentage on sale or production, then they would be in serious trouble because that means they have violated the Labour law on salary payment.

My honest submission.

Ayo25:
Please lawyers in the house I seek your advice and help over my tussle with my firm.
They have concluded plans at my firm to arrest my guarantors. The same firm that is owing me backlog of salaries would go after my guarantors because at some point when delay in payment of salaries became unbearable for me, I decided to stop remitting whatever I made from my production for them until I am paid by them.
By the companys standard it is wrong, but there was no way I could manage the situation and as a matter of fact you need money to make money for them which if your production was not up to scratch you will be queried. So because I could not secure another job I remained in the job. At the initial stage I would go out of way to make money for them and remit everything but at the end of the month, bang there would be a deafening silence. No salary. The situation became so bad that at some point I was owed five months.
So I decided enough is enough. So I began to withold the money I made from my productions for them until they pay me too. I decided on this course of action especially because I heared that what they did to people in time past is that after owing staffs for months, they will now pay lets say four out of nine months and brazenly tell you to forget the remaining five or go to court. I do not want to feel used by anybody or firm so I decided that at every point in time I must be with some of their money. So I wont be on the receiving end if they put up any funny behaviour.
So some weeks ago the firm eventually discovered what I have been up to. I was asked to submit all their equipments which I did.
So they demanded that I pay up all what I am owing them. When I did my calculation, they are owing me a little bit more than I am owing them. I asked to be paid my entitlements too. They insist I should pay them first. Someone in their ranks exposed their insecerity that I have been sacked and will not be paid anything if I obliged them and Pay up their money.
They started cajoling me to pay. I offered that they should deduct their their money from my salaries with them.
They rejected flatly and said they will be going to arrest my guarantors.
Lawyers in the house please advise me on how to go about this. I dont want them to go near my guarantors at all.

Straight and the best logic so farrrr....because it's still their money that u re holding ..but with this logic u re on point......and when police comes in the matter u just tell them to deduct their money from ur salary that the are owing u to balance their lost money .. And give u ur balance that uvdont like problems ..straight!!

Hit them in the court before they hit you bad guy...many of the companies around are fraudulent in operations,they defraud their staff to make money,teach them sense and let them learn a bitter lesson..open up to your guarantor to avoid embarrassment on his part and hear what he would say.. But be prepared for the worst because their head may be a capole

Adesolomon2014:


Baddest idea, am sure you are a Federal SARZ.
Na to turn matter against you ooo.
Dnt try the above idea oooo.

By holding the companys money its a criminal offence, only a police report could salvage the situation now.

Ayo25:

There has been a breach of contract by both parties... You are amongst the parties.

The firm was the foremost to breach the contract... The agreement was binding on you both, to pay u as long as you go on fulfilling the obligation you were employed for, and your remitting everything accruing from sale of their products or production. If they broke that agreement binding on you both, there is no case... What you did was in the event to what they had already done.

As per their threat of arresting your Guarantors... Walk up to a Human Right Lawyer and get a court injunction restraining them from such course of action. If they now take you to court, you've better chances of winning the firm in court.

I've been there before bro. don't panic, just brief your guarantors so they will be aware.
in my own case the matter even got to court and I won. I even wanted to press for damages but then I had already gotten a job with zenith bank and there was no way I would have the time to be attending court hearings.
there are so many greedy employers like that all over the country. in my own case it ws one Dan Anaebo Okekenta in Abuja