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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:44am On Jun 23, 2018
semid4lyfe:
It seems 3-5-2 or it's variants is the way to go in the modern game.

It puts numbers in defence, midfield and also the attack with marauding & overlapping wing backs.

It's alien to our football culture and Phillipe Troussier was sacked for adopting it despite qualifying Nigeria for the world cup.

I hope this formation can be inculcated and drilled into players in the academies and at the grassroot level cos truth is it's not "our thing".

In my amateur football days, I never played in such a formation and no team I played against adopted the formation. The preferred formation for Nigerian coaches is 4-4-2.

Even in my Saturday morning footballs, we always choose players and set up to play 4-4-2.

Our coaches particularly at the grassroot levels and academies need to play 3-5-2 more so they can develop the right personnel and build all round players particularly with wing backs.


Very brilliant Contribution and a follow up to the very smart suggestion of Mujtahida who feels it is time we have a footballing identity. I opposed skills being our strength and wanted to point out after yesterday's game where our strength lies.

If you look at what Ndidi did last season for Leicester and what Etebo is doing in this World Cup, you will see when it comes to hardwork and stamina our players can rule the World.

If you watch closely the way we played, you will see that when it comes to playing with speed, intensity and stamina, we can go against the best in the World.

With the likes of Ebuehi, Nacho, Musa, Moses, Idowu, Ndidi, Etebo, Omeruo, Onazi, Shehu etc. You will see we produce players with Speed and stamina in large numbers. Others who are not here like Kayode, Chidiebere Nwakali, Chukwueze, Onyekuru, Isaac Success, Duru Ebube, Ikouwem, Ebere Eze, Samuel Kalu and a host of others.

Even our technical players like Ogu, Mikel Obi, Kelechi Nwakali may not play with speed and intensity but they have insane stamina.

So the 3-5-2 formation and a pressing system like Bielsa's Chilean team or Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool will bring out the best in the Super Eagles.

Setting up and advising academies to adopt this model will go a long way in making us generate more quality players of the future. Also the drill routines Ndukka Ugade put Ndidi through while growing up should also be a part of it.

Keep in mind the drills Siasia used to carry out his first screening session for the Super Eagles when he handled the team was also a stamina drill.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:46am On Jun 23, 2018
Clementoke:


God bless you my brother. Their reporting was as if we came to the WC to help Argentina qualify

Nigeria's victory over Iceland has simply put back Argentina's destiny into their hands. Although they may still need a favor from Croatia.

That is just the pure fact.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:47am On Jun 23, 2018
Martz101:


so Musa should have gone out when he was not showing any sign of getting tired and Nacho should stay on abi?? why are we always putting our love for one player ahead of the team??

why bring Ogu and then pair Etebo with nacho up front and kill the team chemistry and movement, the ogu you are bringing in will play ahead of mikel or what??

you believe you know more than Rohr with this your laughable analysis? baba go rest



I do not believe I know more than Rohr. You can make your point without malignant response.

Musa being tired or not was not the response but setting up the team to conserve a two goal lead. Nacho contributes more defensively than Musa. So Musa had to be the one to go out. Not tiredness. Also, John Ogu will bring more stability at the back with Etebo dropping deep to help support the midfield in defending.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Horus(m): 8:47am On Jun 23, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dJaxQTqFQU

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 8:48am On Jun 23, 2018
fabyom:
I don't know what Ighalo did to you guys go and watch the match again. You guys are so biased. He fought for that ball got it wanted to pass to Musa but a defender arrived, he then passed to Iwobi who made a mess of that chance. You guys are not blaming Iwobi but busy blaming the creator of the chance. Astonishing!!
The initial word I used Was PLAY.

One thing you guys don't know is that seconds count in football. If you don't make the right decision at the right time then forget it. He did well to win the ball but spoiled everything by holding longer. Iwobi was already there asking for the pass. But he waited few more seconds which allowed our opponents to fall back and gets into position and that was the end of a potential goal for us and an assist for him.
This he did repeatedly. One was a pass he got at the center circle which he just needed to pass to a running Musa who was trying to get into space as we were 2 against 2. But baba held for so long till he was fouled. That's why we don't score often when he plays.

IIghalo is good at holding up play but his timings are bad and so let the team down. Hope you get it Sir.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:49am On Jun 23, 2018
Martz101:


how is iwobi for Etebo bad, Etebo was the number 10 yesterday. i thought we all think iwobi is a number 10 too?

We got under pressure with the Iceland players pushing for a goal. Taking out one of the work horses of the team in the midfield for Iwobi who contributes less in respect of tracking, marking and Tackling was clearly a wrong option.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:50am On Jun 23, 2018
fabyom:
I don't know what Ighalo did to you guys go and watch the match again. You guys are so biased. He fought for that ball got it wanted to pass to Musa but a defender arrived, he then passed to Iwobi who made a mess of that chance. You guys are not blaming Iwobi but busy blaming the creator of the chance. Astonishing!!
I saw Ighalo rating and even watched the match again and it was like some watched different match on this thread.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:51am On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


I do not believe I know more than Rohr. You can make your point without malignant response.

Musa being tired or not was not the response but setting up the team to conserve a two goal lead. Nacho contributes more defensively than Musa. So Musa had to be the one to go out. Not tiredness. Also, John Ogu will bring more stability at the back with Etebo dropping deep to help support the midfield in defending.
Good observation.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 8:52am On Jun 23, 2018
Martz101:


how is iwobi for Etebo bad, Etebo was the number 10 yesterday. i thought we all think iwobi is a number 10 too?
That formation had no 10 yesterday but I wouldn't fault Iwobi-for-Etebo's sub. The only one wey vex me na Ighalo. That boy is wasted.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chimzyblack(m): 8:54am On Jun 23, 2018
OMERUO "THE ROCK"

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:55am On Jun 23, 2018
fabyom:
I don't know what Ighalo did to you guys go and watch the match again. You guys are so biased. He fought for that ball got it wanted to pass to Musa but a defender arrived, he then passed to Iwobi who made a mess of that chance. You guys are not blaming Iwobi but busy blaming the creator of the chance. Astonishing!!

that's the way things go here, some people are allowed to make mistakes.

previously if Omeruo name comes up, people will say his prone to mistakes but i see leon and ekong do one or two mistake too. Thank God his proving to us what he can do
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 8:56am On Jun 23, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
I just hope he plays regularly at Stoke.

Dude could have gotten a better club with his perfornces so far. I think A championship side is too small for him.

i always thought he should have waited, this guys could have gotten a good club after worldcup
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:58am On Jun 23, 2018
chimzyblack:
OMERUO "THE ROCK"


Jeez. Those stats are Super. Makes you understand the work the defensive marshall put in. He got a big task ahead to stop the Argentines. We need to bring in our a game because Aguero, Dybala, Higuain, Messi, Pavon, Banega etc is not beans. But, I believe we are up to the task.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 8:58am On Jun 23, 2018
Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elWvXjkRijE

Nigeria victory - Interviews with team Nigeria 22 June 2018

Ighalo stop giving excuses that its because you were the only striker upfront, abeg you no good at all, I hope rohr makes you glue your ass to the bench henceforth

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:01am On Jun 23, 2018
Martz101:


i always thought he should have waited, this guys could have gotten a good club after worldcup
Sir playing good at WC does not guarantee a good club for a player,that era has gone except few cases.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:01am On Jun 23, 2018
Martz101:


that's the way things go here, some people are allowed to make mistakes.

previously if Omeruo name comes up, people will say his prone to mistakes but i see leon and ekong do one or two mistake too. Thank God his proving to us what he can do

Omeruo was always a pick of mine. Apart from the little mistakes, he was always a solid player for us.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:02am On Jun 23, 2018
Certitude:

That formation had no 10 yesterday but I wouldn't fault Iwobi-for-Etebo's sub. The only one wey vex me na Ighalo. That boy is wasted.

Etebo was ahead of mikel, he was the attacking midfielder, he was the 10 yesterday. for Ighalo you guys should watch Nigeria games with clear mind and heart, if ighalo scores you will still jubilate.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 9:03am On Jun 23, 2018
chimzyblack:
OMERUO "THE ROCK"

and Omeruo error almost cost us a goal , he forced Ebuehi to commit foul . MY fear for Omeruo is lack of concentration ... sometimes he can just mess up all his effort with just one error .

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 9:03am On Jun 23, 2018
Yes he messed up that pass at the centre circle but the one you guys are blaming him for he did the right thing. Iwobi should have been more clinical. Also Iwobi got a ball around the Iceland Area he was suppose to pass to musa or etebo but he delayed until he was dispossessed. Why are you guys not blaming him for that.
AIG07:

The initial word I used Was PLAY.

One thing you guys don't know is that seconds count in football. If you don't make the right decision at the right time then forget it. He did well to win the ball but spoiled everything by holding longer. Iwobi was already there asking for the pass. But he waited few more seconds which allowed our opponents to fall back and gets into position and that was the end of a potential goal for us and an assist for him.
This he did repeatedly. One was a pass he got at the center circle which he just needed to pass to a running Musa who was trying to get into space as we were 2 against 2. But baba held for so long till he was fouled. That's why we don't score often when he plays.

IIghalo is good at holding up play but his timings are bad and so let the team down. Hope you get it Sir.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:04am On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


We got under pressure with the Iceland players pushing for a goal. Taking out one of the work horses of the team in the midfield for Iwobi who contributes less in respect of tracking, marking and Tackling was clearly a wrong option.

The best form of defense is attack, he needed someone that can holdon to the ball more and not be wasteful when having the ball
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 9:06am On Jun 23, 2018
Yesso my good bro. The biased analysis is getting too much.
Martz101:


that's the way things go here, some people are allowed to make mistakes.

previously if Omeruo name comes up, people will say his prone to mistakes but i see leon and ekong do one or two mistake too. Thank God his proving to us what he can do
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:06am On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


I do not believe I know more than Rohr. You can make your point without malignant response.

Musa being tired or not was not the response but setting up the team to conserve a two goal lead. Nacho contributes more defensively than Musa. So Musa had to be the one to go out. Not tiredness. Also, John Ogu will bring more stability at the back with Etebo dropping deep to help support the midfield in defending.

baba forget it, we won yesterday and i believe the coach did well with his tactics
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:07am On Jun 23, 2018
EEGA:
Do you really have the interest of this team at heart?

Which kain question be dis?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:07am On Jun 23, 2018
I just re-watched the highlights of the Iceland game for the first Time this morning.

I saw Ighalo asking for Rohr to bring him in shocked

(In Ibu's voice) So na true this thing una dey talk since

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Fadiga24(m): 9:07am On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


I disagree on the changes. The change pulling out Nacho for Ighalo was awful. Musa was the best option out and bringing in John Ogu. While Etebo pairs with Nacho upfront, contributing a lot to defending.

The Iwobi change was also another poor call. Rohr needs to grow some balls and also make better changes to suit the team. We can do better if Rohr can just take his foot off the brakes.

The changes were spot on, Iheanacho was fading in the game so Ighalo was brought in to hold up our long balls

Musa was having the game of his life why change him?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:08am On Jun 23, 2018
Goke7:


Ighalo stop giving excuses that its because you were the only striker upfront, abeg you no good at all, I hope rohr makes you glue your ass to the bench henceforth
Gok man i know if Ighalo start the match instead of Iheanacho and put the same performance of Nacho he will still be blamed.

I remember how Ahmed Musa was rated here and some even called him federal character player but what happened yesterday a blissful performance.

Sir,against Iceland Ighalo with few minutes was not woeful,he had a good game cos Iceland defenders were on their toes.

Pls go and watch the match again may be you get it better

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:08am On Jun 23, 2018
Icon4s:


Nigeria's victory over Iceland has simply put back Argentina's destiny into their hands. Although they may still need a favor from Croatia.

That is just the pure fact.

what about us?
a point can send us through
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 9:08am On Jun 23, 2018
Humility017:

Lol....
an old osaze will play better than him...
I just don't like him at all...him on the pitch today killed my interest...in the later part of the match..

I was only expecting the coach to sub in iwobi and no one else....



Yes he can even play beta than Costa too,you keep forgetting dat every one was/is unique is his own approach, even the osaze you mention was a winger in GWG
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 9:08am On Jun 23, 2018
One mistake and they will forget all the good things you have done. Unfortunately bros, that is the kind of world we live in
Kog45:
I saw Ighalo rating and even watched the match again and it was like some watched different match on this thread.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:09am On Jun 23, 2018
Another school boy penalty conceded yesterday.

They are gradually gaining tournament experience.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DokitaDave(m): 9:09am On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


I do not believe I know more than Rohr. You can make your point without malignant response.

Musa being tired or not was not the response but setting up the team to conserve a two goal lead. Nacho contributes more defensively than Musa. So Musa had to be the one to go out. Not tiredness. Also, John Ogu will bring more stability at the back with Etebo dropping deep to help support the midfield in defending.
Perfectly said.

I was expecting Rohr to substitute Musa after the second goal. Anything could have happened, even aside stabilizing that game defensively; he could have been yellow carded or injured. It wasn't the best gamble by Rohr.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kalapizim(m): 9:11am On Jun 23, 2018
So Ebuehi grandma was watching the match. My edo dem never disappoint. if you know you know.

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