Elder001:


we should only pray sharing of properties and child support doesn't get implemented here

i believe women should have right to sharing of property but as for child support that wont be necessary because most men who are divorced from their wives take care of the kids. Most of them send allowances to their wives And also men with babymamas also send money regularly to their baby mamas. The way our family system dey structured in Nigeria will make it impossible for the national assembly to pass such into law.the western system is quite different from ours.

Noted

eyinjuege:


Its obvious you have more than comprehension problems. No wonder a lot of Black men are viewed as deadbeat fathers.
So when you pay child support, you expect the money to be handed down to the child? Are you the one to pay the rent in the house the child will live in? Are you the one to buy food and feed the child?
Child support is paid by the spouse who doesn't have custody of the child, and that's reasonable. Or you think the parent the child lives with isn't supporting the child? Ridiculous the way your brain works.
Yout post wasn't even about both parents paying for support, but rather child support shouldn't be paid. Very wicked people everywhere. You want to birth a child and abandon such to the elements.
Majority of the deadbeat fathers out there are just selfish irresponsible men who would rather shift their responsibilty on others.
Child support is very different from alimony btw, so you need to get your facts right. Child support is child support, spousal support/alimony is different and it is spousal support/alimony as the name implies.
Child support is the fundamental right of every child.
Do right by your children.
Any father who doesn't support his children because they are with their mothers is a deadbeat father, a useless waste of space. Same with any mother who doesnt support her child.
How can a child be living with a parent, and you assume in your ignorance the mother is feeding with the child support money you send, and its not been used on the child.
How much money is the child support money?
The judges in these cases are reasonable, they will calculate based on your earnings, and it must also be reasonable.
By the way, the courts in Nigeria do put child support orders in divorce cases anyways, so i don't even know what you're talking about, other than showcasing your ignorance.
But to even have the guts to speak such a thing that children's rights should be denied them , means your issues are beyond redeemable.

stop talking of taking care of kids blah blah.. nobody forced them to take care of kids.. and I stand with my words that the mothers spend most part of the money on themselves not the kids.


Your last statement.. yes I know that courts order men to pay money for child upkeep in Nigeria but those orders can't be enforced because there's no agency or anyway spelt out on the enforcement of child support in our constitution.
more than 30% of men ordered to pay child upkeep in Nigeria don't pay up to the amount the court ordered them to pay and some even default.
Until Nass creates an agency for the enforcement of child support just like the US Congress did or spell out the procedures of enforcing those orders in our constitution the judges are on their own.

lefulefu:
i believe women should have right to sharing of property but as for child support that wont be necessary because most men who are divorced from their wives take care of the kids. Most of them send allowances to their wives And also men with babymamas also send money regularly to their baby mamas. The way our family system dey structured in Nigeria will make it impossible for the national assembly to pass such into law.the western system is quite different from ours.

lefulefu you believe women should have right to sharing of which property?
I wasn't talking about inheritance oh..

do you want divorced wives to get 50% of their former husbands properties?

Elder001:


lefulefu you believe women should have right to sharing of which property?
I wasn't talking about inheritance oh..

do you want divorced wives to get 50% of their former husbands properties?

i was talking about inheritance oo and certainly not about divorced wives collecting their former husbands property. If they made it into law about divorced wives collecting about 50 percent of their husband's property haba many gold diggers will now be having a field day. Na to go marry a rich man in January and divorce am on February while having a claim on his property. Property wey u no struggle with am to get. Dat will be so unfair.

Elder001:


stop talking of taking care of kids blah blah.. nobody forced them to take care of kids.. and I stand with my words that the mothers spend most part of the money on themselves not the kids.


Your last statement.. yes I know that courts order men to pay money for child upkeep in Nigeria but those orders can't be enforced because there's no agency or anyway spelt out on the enforcement of child support in our constitution.
more than 30% of men ordered to pay child upkeep in Nigeria don't pay up to the amount the court ordered them to pay and some even default.
Until Nass creates an agency for the enforcement of child support just like the US Congress did or spell out the procedures of enforcing those orders in our constitution the judges are on their own.

Is it the monthly 5000 naira the courts award each child that the mother can take out of? The child hasn't gone to school yet, hasn't fed, no clothes on his back yet(we know how fast children grow out of their clothes), accomodation n ko,that the mother will have anything for herself there? She is also supporting her children and is expected to add to the 5K from the fathers. She even has to put down more
It's only a few well to do men that pay heavy child support like Babangida's son. I don't expect his children to go to public school and live just anywhere. He pays 500k monthly or so for his 2 children with their mother, and that includes their school fees and feeding, accomodation, vacations etc. That's not enough foe the children of the rich in Abuja, and thankfully their mother is also well to do.
How many men are rich that can pay any substantial child support for the mothers to get anything out of?
What you need is a positive responsible male role model in your life.
For you to think its normal for a father not to support his children because their mothers might spend out of the money when the children obviously live with her, shows there's a big problem in your mindset.
I asked earlier who you think should bear the costs of your children, you didn't answer. You said the courts shouldn't enforce child support orders put in place. It shows so much why Nigerians are lawless, and she might never recover.
Black men have a bad reputation of abandoning their children, even Obama's father did the same. Thank goodness for his mother and her family. It's a pity African values are no longer anything to write home about when you sit down and think critically about our value system. Everywhere you go in the world, they are stereotypically known for that and you have further strenghtened that belief. You can imagine foreigners viewing this head and shaking their heads.
Anybody not ready to bear the costs of raising children should go and have a vasectomy and tie their tubes so the world can rest. Enough of having born throway children everywhere.

lefulefu:
i believe women should have right to sharing of property but as for child support that wont be necessary because most men who are divorced from their wives take care of the kids. Most of them send allowances to their wives And also men with babymamas also send money regularly to their baby mamas. The way our family system dey structured in Nigeria will make it impossible for the national assembly to pass such into law.the western system is quite different from ours.

If men support their children anyway, what is the problem if the amount they need to pay to support is put into place and enforced? What is the fear in that if its done anyway?
It's the fundamental right of a child to be financially supported by both parents. It is a form of abuse and neglect of the child when a parent refuses to provide the basic needs of the child for whatever reason.
I think it's even more important than sharing properties, because it's children we are talking about. They are one of the most vulnerable groups in the society

eyinjuege:


If men support their children anyway, what is the problem if the amount they need to pay to support is put into place and enforced? What is the fear in that if its done anyway?
It's the fundamental right of a child to be financially supported by both parents. It is a form of abuse and neglect of the child when a parent refuses to provide the basic needs of the child for whatever reason.
I think it's even more important than sharing properties, because it's children we are talking about. They are one of the most vulnerable groups in the society

nigerian men are already providing for their kids so the child support will be unnecessary. Even the deadbeat dads who can't provide, the parents take over the caring of the grandchildren. If the child support fund is implemented then many irresponsible moms will only be using the money on themselves and their boyfriends while ignoring the kids. I have reading stories on how in the west some single moms use the child support money on shopping sprees,buying expensive gadgets and spending on their boyfriends while their own kids are abandoned and d man has no say on the caring of his child.what sort of fuked up arrangement is that.

eyinjuege:


Is it the monthly 5000 naira the courts award each child that the mother can take out of? The child hasn't gone to school yet, hasn't fed, no clothes on his back yet(we know how fast children grow out of their clothes), accomodation n ko,that the mother will have anything for herself there? She is also supporting her children and is expected to add to the 5K from the fathers. She even has to put down more
It's only a few well to do men that pay heavy child support like Babangida's son. I don't expect his children to go to public school and live just anywhere. He pays 500k monthly or so for his 2 children with their mother, and that includes their school fees and feeding, accomodation, vacations etc. That's not enough foe the children of the rich in Abuja, and thankfully their mother is also well to do.
How many men are rich that can pay any substantial child support for the mothers to get anything out of?
What you need is a positive responsible male role model in your life.
For you to think its normal for a father not to support his children because their mothers might spend out of the money when the children obviously live with her, shows there's a big problem in your mindset.
I asked earlier who you think should bear the costs of your children, you didn't answer. You said the courts shouldn't enforce child support orders put in place. It shows so much why Nigerians are lawless, and she might never recover.
Black men have a bad reputation of abandoning their children, even Obama's father did the same. Thank goodness for his mother and her family. It's a pity African values are no longer anything to write home about when you sit down and think critically about our value system. Everywhere you go in the world, they are stereotypically known for that and you have further strenghtened that belief. You can imagine foreigners viewing this head and shaking their heads.
Anybody not ready to bear the costs of raising children should go and have a vasectomy and tie their tubes so the world can rest. Enough of having born throway children everywhere.

Young man because Babangida or whatever's son is paying 500k for child support doesn't mean all Nigerian men are going to pay such.
Your rants are useless... really useless
I'll only agree with child support scam if the courts set up bank accounts for this issue and put some court officials in charge of those accounts ,that way if the lady wants to buy diapers she'll tell the official in charge of the account and he/she will personally withdraw the money and purchase the diapers for her.. same way as school fees the person in charge of the court account will personally go and pay the school fees by him/herself . clothes too if she wants to buy clothes for the kids then she'll tell the official in charge of the account and he/she will personally purchase the clothes and give to her.
That way ladies won't see the kids as meal ticket and as for the accommodation ,there's no way I'm gonna pay money for accommodation because my kid is living with you because nobody forced to you to take custody of the kid.. if you can't afford your own accommodation then you should rot in hell. .allow me to take custody.


Arguing with you or debating this topic further with you is useless because NASS will never implement child support in Nigeria .

Further Advice : if you open a thread and you don't agree with the contents leave or comment your opinions and if the OP refuses to take your opinions then you should leave not trying to force your opinions on him/her or saying bullshíts.


I'm done with you.

For the men saying child support should be implemented in Nigeria ..kindly view the thread below:

https://www.nairaland.com/4525151/uwa-brown-dirty-liar-blackmailer

Child support is/has destroying/destroyed many lives already in the countries where it has been implemented yet some fools want it to be implemented in Nigeria.

Most women don't spend the money for child support on the kids rather they spend it on themselves .
some ladies in Canada and USA no longer work.. all they do is wait for a man to impregnate them, ,,some even go to the extent of raping men just to get pregnant so that after giving birth to the kids they'll start taking child support money.
Some even have more than 5 baby daddy's!

If these women don't really have dangerous mindsets why are they doing this?

Trust me.. if child support is implemented here alimony and sharing of properties by divorced couples will also be implemented here because they'll argue that if child support can be implemented why should alimony and sharing of properties not be implemented...


Men in America and Europe are complaining! they're feeling the heat already! yet some fools are saying this scam should be implemented in Nigeria.

and to those fools who've the habit of taking their Nigerian wives to USA and UK.. keep on taking them there.. by the time they're through with you.. your eyes are gonna open..

Never trust Nigerian ladies. ..take them to the UK and USA and you'll be given the blackmail of your life.

Elder001:


I regretted every replying you after I saw your first line..
only broke men share responsibilities with women?
you mean over 60% of American male population that are sharing responsibilities with their wives are broke?.


The fact that you're trying to force your useless and uncivilized traditionalist ideologies on people shows the kind of person you are.

No matter how rich I am my wife and I must share bills.. get that into your head.

Be ranting broke broke broke on nairaland as if you know me in person... empty barrels make the loudest noise
I won't be surprised if the people who're always tagging others broke can't feed properly in reality.

Be ranting broke broke broke on nairaland while I make more money in reality.

Change my name if I ever reply you again.

You ain't making shi.t. Broke now, broke for life because you chose the wrong path to become a runaway. I no blame you na the mumu women wey go open yansh for barawo like you i blame. Don't go and face your responsibilities. Your children will grow up and pour pee on your head for being a dead beat runaway father. Funny enough its people like you who boast about children you never nurtured nor fed. We know you.

Elder001:


Lol.. kid

get a review from which people?
northerners will never support such bill.. I trust SS AND SE lawmakers not to support it either.

Na sawdust dey your head for "trusting" human beings who do not know that a monkey like you exists. Dey there dey hope until yiour kids are grown enough to slap that your runaway face. Men like you are a disgrace to us.

Deji63:


You ain't making shi.t. Broke now, broke for life because you chose the wrong path to become a runaway. I no blame you na the mumu women wey go open yansh for barawo like you i blame. Don't go and face your responsibilities. Your children will grow up and pour pee on your head for being a dead beat runaway father. Funny enough its people like you who boast about children you never nurtured nor fed. We know you.

Arguing with you is a waste of time.

If you think women should leave the responsibility 100% for men.. you're stupid.

Young man please stop quoting me.

Elder001:



Arguing with you is a waste of time.

If you think women should leave the responsibility 100% for men.. you're stupid.

Young man please stop quoting me.

The children bear your surname not hers. Remember?

Deji63:


The children bear your surname not hers. Remember?

you've a very disgusting mentality.
Stop thinking like someone in the stone age. if the woman is so adamant to have the kid answer her name then the child can bear both the names of the mother and the kid.

all the nonsense you're saying is that men should shoulder all responsibility 100%.

kid, if you ever mention me again.

Colourich:
Coward!

Typical brain-dead female response when they have no other logical addition to a discussion regarding why men should do something for them for free.

So tell me, why should a female deserve 50/50 with a man's property when she didn't create or earn it?

Elder001:


you've a very disgusting mentality.
Stop thinking like someone in the stone age. if the woman is so adamant to have the kid answer her name then the child can bear both the names of the mother and the kid.

all the nonsense you're saying is that men should shoulder all responsibility 100%.

kid, if you ever mention me again.

Deadbeat dad. Get lost.

Deji63:


Deadbeat dad. Get lost.

You're a fool.

If my wife and I have a kid together we'll both take responsibility 50/50.

I'm sure you're so dumb that you don't know the meaning of “deadbeat parent”.

If a man and a woman bring a child into this world the responsibility must be shared.

The responsibility of a woman isn't popping out kids and waiting for the man to provide everything.

We must both carter for the kid.

And as for the fool liking your ridiculous and disgusting comments she should continue liking them.

Elder001:


You're a fool.

If my wife and I have a kid together we'll both take responsibility 50/50.

I'm sure you're so dumb that you don't know the meaning of “deadbeat parent”.

If a man and a woman bring a child into this world the responsibility must be shared.

The responsibility of a woman isn't popping out kids and waiting for the man to provide everything.

We must both carter for the kid.

And as for the fool liking your ridiculous and disgusting comments she should continue liking them.

You are a bigger fool. You do not have a wife. You fvck and go. Get a job and stop waiting on your momma for lunch.

Deji63:


You are a bigger fool. You do not have a wife. You fvck and go. Get a job and stop waiting on your momma for lunch.

This is getting worse.

Why do you have to disturb me with notification at this hour?

Aren't you working for Godsake?

I don't have a wife, I fućk and go?

Do you think I'm that irresponsible?. You clearly aren't as wise as I thought.

You think at 30something I'm eating momma food, funny.

Different stuffs for different people.
You want a full time housewife who you'll take 100% responsibility for.

Your choice. Don't force it on others.

Trying to ridicule others because they don't share your backwards mentality only makes you stupid.


I beg you in the name of God please don't quote me again.

I don't deal with primitive people.


What kind of human will say a woman's responsibility is to give birth to kids and only the man should foot all bills 100%.

Many are insane but only few are roaming on the streets.

Broke man married to a broke woman! Who else say all these sorts of ridiculous words?

C'mon go and look for a productive and fruitful wife that'll add something to your life and stop spending your time on nairaland.

Elder001:

This is getting worse.

Why do you have to disturb me with notification at this hour?

Aren't you working for Godsake?

I don't have a wife, I fućk and go?

Do you think I'm that irresponsible?. You clearly aren't as wise as I thought.

You think at 30something I'm eating momma food, funny.

Different stuffs for different people.
You want a full time housewife who you'll take 100% responsibility for.

Your choice. Don't force it on others.

Trying to ridicule others because they don't share your backwards mentality only makes you stupid.


I beg you in the name of God please don't quote me again.

I don't deal with primitive people.


What kind of human will say a woman's responsibility is to give birth to kids and only the man should foot all bills 100%.

Many are insane but only few are roaming on the streets.

Broke man married to a broke woman! Who else say all these sorts of ridiculous words?

C'mon go and look for a productive and fruitful wife that'll add something to your life and stop spending your time on nairaland.

My wife is very productive

Deji63:



My wife is very productive

You still quoted me?

Now leave me alone... Anybody who gives birth to a kid must take responsibility not sitting down and waiting for one partner to foot all the bills 100%.

Don't quote me again with your ridiculous and primitive mentality. Go and enjoy your unproductive wife who doesn't contribute to your life.

Elder001:


You still quoted me?

Now leave me alone... Anybody who gives birth to a kid must take responsibility not sitting down and waiting for one partner to foot all the bills 100%.

Don't quote me again with your ridiculous and primitive mentality. Go and enjoy your unproductive wife who doesn't contribute to your life.

You sound very bitter. Very in line with the tone of a dead beat run away father. You don't take care of your responsibility as a man yet you want the women to cook and clean for you and be feminine while you are being sissy and sharing chop money or leaving nothing at all to be chopped. Opposite of Dangote that is why God made you poor.Get lost deadbeat.

Elder001:
MEN PLEASE RESIST ANY MOVE /ATTEMPT BY NASS AND THE JUDICIARY TO IMPLEMENT CHILD SUPPORT IN NIGERIA !!

Child support implementation should be resisted at all cost in Nigeria .

Many men have been brought down by child support scam.
Even celebrities; Boxers, Wrestlers, Singers, Actors, Doctors and Footballers..I don't want to go too far.

Only God knows the rate at which the percentage % of marriage is going to decline to about 30% in 12-18 years time .

The fear of losing 50% of your properties to a spouse who contributed nothing in the acquiring of those properties and child support is the reason many men aren't getting married in the west.

please men must resist any attempt by NASS or the Judiciary to implement this child support scam in Nigeria.

Some people will quote me to ask me if I'm living in Europe or America.
y'all should open your eyes!!
Child support has already been introduced into some parts of Africa and I'm certain that within a couple of time child support might be introduced to Lagos (that's if it hasn't been introduced already).

Even those men that think by having baby mamas they're escaping from the claws of child support ..I pity them



A time is coming when people will be scared of getting married or having kids.

You need love.

Elder001:


You're a fool.

If my wife and I have a kid together we'll both take responsibility 50/50.

I'm sure you're so dumb that you don't know the meaning of “deadbeat parent”.

If a man and a woman bring a child into this world the responsibility must be shared.

The responsibility of a woman isn't popping out kids and waiting for the man to provide everything.

We must both carter for the kid.

And as for the fool liking your ridiculous and disgusting comments she should continue liking them.

oga you try ooo. see how you are wasting time with this guy. ignore him nah.

Deji63:


You sound very bitter. Very in line with the tone of a dead beat run away father. You don't take care of your responsibility as a man yet you want the women to cook and clean for you and be feminine while you are being sissy and sharing chop money or leaving nothing at all to be chopped. Opposite of Dangote that is why God made you poor.Get lost deadbeat.

This nonsense only apply to men who turn their wives into full time housewives and men who kill their wives ambition not a civilized man like me.

Not all men are misogynistic like you who can't share house chores and cooking so stop that nonsense.

I cook and clean the home too so responsibility must be shared.


Deji63 don't quote me again if you like yourself.

A fool who doesn't know the meaning of deadbeat parent.

sarahade:


You need love.

You need to go and read your books.

Your mates aren't here.

I wish seun or whatever he is called can introduce a method where someone can block these kids from mentioning or quoting.

Cuteamigo1:
oga you try ooo. see how you are wasting time with this guy. ignore him nah.

I think I'll start ignoring him henceforth since he doesn't want to stop quoting me.

What kind of human will say a woman's responsibility is to pop out kids and sit down then the man will take all responsibity 100%?

Is this man really normal?

He doesn't even know the meaning of deadbeat parent. He's here trying to tell me that the only responsibility a woman has is to pop out kids and leave everything else for the father 100%.

I wonder the kind of people that are using this site.

Elder001:


You need to go and read your books.

Your mates aren't here.

I wish seun or whatever he is called can introduce a method where someone can block these kids from mentioning or quoting.

You really need love.
I'd pray for you

sarahade:


You really need love.
I'd pray for you

Pray for your family... they need that love and prayers.

Elder001:




I think I'll start working ignoring him henceforth since he doesn't want to stop quoting me.

What kind of human will say a woman's responsibility is to pop out kids and sit down then the man will take all responsibity 100%?

Is this man really normal?

He doesn't even know the meaning of deadbeat parent. He's here trying to tell me that the only responsibility a woman has is to pop out kids and leave everything else for the father 100%.

I wonder the kind of people that are using this site.

he dosent live in the same world as us or maybe that the setting he grew up with. i come from a family where mom and dad made a fair share of contribution to my upbringing and thats what i want and thats what you are also preaching and for that, thumbs-up. in the this 21st century i cant marry a woman who cannot drag her own weight and expect me to do everything.