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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:58am On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Musa went for the more difficult option. He could have lost to ball to the keeper. Nacho asked for the ball before Musa skipped past the Goalkeeper. On normal terms, if Musa missed that ball he could have been crucified because Nacho was better placed to finish it.

That is another reason I pointed at Moses attacking because attackers can get away with being selfish.

But at that point when Musa had already dribbled the keeper, he became better placed than Iheanacho but him still dey beg for the ball grin grin grin

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:01pm On Jun 23, 2018
Icon4s:


But at that point when Musa had already dribbled the keeper, he became better placed than Iheanacho but him still dey beg for the ball grin grin grin

It looks so but keep in mind at that point they were both in good scoring positions and two Iceland defenders were facing Musa. It was a good goal but If he missed, he would have faced a backlash because he made the wrong choice.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:02pm On Jun 23, 2018
safarigirl:
if you consider Uzoho's age, you will not be considering him alongside keepers in their late 20's-early 30's

He is just starting, compare him to a 20-year old Enyeama, were you always confident about him? Did you think he could pull his weight at a senior World Cup back then?

Uzoho has done well for his age, he has done very well in fact and could very well be greater than Enyeama in the coming years considering how well he has handled pressure so far

The boy is yet to concede from open play, there are many other keepers far better than him in this tournament who have conceded. So, it is about time we stopped considering the players we could have had and focus on the one we do have.

It is very easy to assume someone else could have done better, when the person cannot be in that position. For all we know, the 'better' goalies would have crumbled under pressure.

Uzoho has earned some level of trust from fans and it is very unfair of you, and anyone else, to keep on bringing up players who may or may not have done better. Give him his accolades abeg, enough of sizing him up with others, everybody's time will come

First of all, Enyeama at 19 can't be compared with Uzoho because he had already achieved alot at that age and was obviously better than Uzoho.

Enyeama held the record of the youngest Nigerian Gk to keep for Nigeria in the world cup, and the youngest Nigerian Gk not to conceed a goal in the world cup after the goalless draw against England at the age of 19 years, yes. He was just three months older than Uzoho. Fact

His phenomenal performance in that match left no doubt he was up for the job and fit the cap to take the mantle of his precedent which standard they have set so high.

I mean Enyeama showed the trait of the phenomenal one at his age

So, what you have said up there is not correct in regards to Enyeama's age. He was not yet 20 years old when he made his debut against England in the world cup. Fact

Although, nobody thought he could pull his weight at a senior worldcup back then but we saw the trait of a phenomenal one without any reservation but that can't be said of Uzoho for now. Unless, he does something spetacular as the world cup goes.

Anyway, like I said I hope he improves but until den we must see others to confirm he is better. Afterall, Enyeama was given the chance likewise Uzoho.

Unfortunately, the standard his precedent set demands that we don't settle for less and there is no way Nigerians fan will not put that in question when dey don't see the trait of the likes of Enyeama, Peter Rufai, Rigogo, etc.

It has become a tradition.

I didn't say Uzoho is bad but he has not so far shown that trait of our great goalkeepers. That's my point.

Hopefully, he does but before then others must be given the chance to ascertain if they are better or Uzoho is better. It's competition and it's healthy for the SE.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:02pm On Jun 23, 2018
After watching the development of the team during the two games, I present my preferred formation an set-up to play the Argentines.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:03pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


It looks so but keep in mind at that point they were both in good scoring positions and two Iceland defenders were facing Musa. It was a good goal but If he missed, he would have faced a backlash because he made the wrong choice.

Finito.

Bro, sometimes strikers need to be selfish. It happens.The End justifies the means. As long as Musa scored he made the Right choice. That is just it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by obaaderemi: 12:03pm On Jun 23, 2018
LieDetector:
dropping shehu and starting Musa? We are not ready for any world cup. We have to wait for another four years. L
Can you still say the same thing now about Musa? grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:05pm On Jun 23, 2018
Icon4s:


Bro, sometimes strikers need to be selfish. It happens.The End justifies the means. As long as Musa scored he made the Right choice. That is just it.

I know strikers can be selfish. Nice it worked out but Musa should be called on the play and next know he is to pass to players in good scoring positions to increase our chances to win.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 12:06pm On Jun 23, 2018
LordBailish:
Apart from winning, another major luck we had today was that penalty miss.

If Sigurdsson had scored that penalty, we'll probably have bade the world cup goodbye. I'm very convinced we wouldn't have been able to cope with the resurgent pressure.
I was not moved by the PK. I knew Iceland coming out for an equalizer would give room for more counters.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:08pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


I know strikers can be selfish. Nice it worked out but Musa should be called on the play and next know he is to pass to players in good scoring positions to increase our chances to win.

Finito.

Oga, talk true, you no enjoy the goal? grin

Musa had the momentum and initiative, he had already beaten the two defenders and his player instinct told him he could finish up the goalie. Football no be beans o.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:09pm On Jun 23, 2018
Moses and Nacho combination of front will bring a mixture of pace and skills. Both players have good defensive attributes to make the us track back when we lose the ball upfront.

Despite Musa's impressive performance against Iceland, I still pick Moses.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 12:10pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


I know strikers can be selfish. Nice it worked out but Musa should be called on the play and next know he is to pass to players in good scoring positions to increase our chances to win.

Finito.


Mane once tried this, had only goalkeeper to beat but Salah was in a better position, hew went for goal and missed,.it caused Liverpool two points. That was where the reports he was jealous of Salah originated from.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 12:10pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
After watching the development of the team during the two games, I present my preferred formation an set-up to play the Argentines.

Thanks to God it is ur formation not ours. Musa was the best the last this formation was played and u want him dropped just to create a space for Vicmo's unnecessary dribbling and falls up front.

We forbid this. E be like u are on a mission wt dis ur Vicmo woteva dis guy

Oh I didn't even notice Mikel ahead of Etebo and Ndidi Lol. If Mikel isn't ready to partner Ndidi so that Etebo or Iwobi plays ahead, he should sit. Also if Moses isn't ready to play the wing back role, he should also sit

Finito

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:11pm On Jun 23, 2018
cc: TheGoodJoe grin grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:11pm On Jun 23, 2018
Truidstar:

Oga goldfish na ighalo now? Last year it was Akpeyi you were defending vehemently until he was exposed as a jittery bag of nerves. Ighalo is not it. I have been saying this since last year. He holds up play, yes, but for who? Himself? He should sit on the bench and watch others perform. He has not scored for us since Cameroon, na striker be that?

For me, he was only poor against Zambia, a game he missed 2 sitters. In subsequent games, I can't fault him for his endeavor or missed chances because he didn't have any.
As a matter of fact, after Zambia, the next game he played was Poland (which the team played poverty football) then Serbia where the team looked better when he came on. Then came England where he created the chance which Iwobi profited from after that, Czech and Croatia.
Now, if you look at these aforementioned games, Ngr created nothing, which was reflective on stats which read mostly zero shots on target.
Infact until the 2nd half of the Iceland game, Ngr haven't created any worthy chance of note in football this year. I stand to be corrected.
You can't berate a striker for not creating chances for himself.
This is why I call this witch hunt against Ighalo a mass hysteria effect, which have taken a life of its own.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:12pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheLoneCitizen:



Mane once tried this, had only goalkeeper to put but Salah was in a better position, hew went for goal and missed,.it caused Liverpool two points. That was where the reports he was jealous of Salah originated from.

Thank you. I hope I can be a fan of you because you are a dope analyst. Nice one.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:13pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
After watching the development of the team during the two games, I present my preferred formation an set-up to play the Argentines.

Oga, you wan drop Musa, now wey him don pick form. Let us exploit him wella o before he falls back to his default mode grin grin grin grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 12:15pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Thank you. I hope I can be a fan of you because you are a dope analyst. Nice one.


I appreciate the choice of words.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:15pm On Jun 23, 2018
Icon4s:


Oga, talk true, you no enjoy the goal? grin

Musa had the momentum and initiative, he had already beaten the two defenders and his player instinct told him he could finish up the goalie. Football no be beans o.

TheGoodJoe:
We just had a taste of the power of a mobile forward. Game on. Now the Iceland players have to come out.

https://www.nairaland.com/3018619/super-eagles-thread-russia-2018/4225#68724376

I made this quote on this thread just after Musa scored. Funny you said I did not enjoy the goal. I just do not get captured with result but doing things the right way. I believe the right way brings the overall Best results in the long run.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 12:16pm On Jun 23, 2018
forgiveness:


If we consider the calibre of goalkeepers we had Uzoho is very average. Sorry to say.

You are confident they save penalty, freekick, shots etcetera. But Uzoho is not good in all.

I still don't think he is the best goalkeeper we have judging from the spot kicks and other factors.

Hope he improves but before then I want to see the Brazilian and German breed Nigerian goalkeepers, even Alampasu before I conceed he is better.

However, Rangers Bees of those days is not efulefu and even our league was not talent drained as we are having it now. 98% of Nigerian players played in the local league but very tangible fraction played abroad.

So, it was normal to scout players from the local league.

If not why you no put Lokosa for ya list ahead of Onyekuru and co? grin



But against France in 2014 we conceded two with Enyeama between the sticks.

Uzoho is improving and is doing well.

He will retain the No.1 position for a very long time.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 12:17pm On Jun 23, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
We have never chained Messi
Then you didn't watch 2010
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:19pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:




https://www.nairaland.com/3018619/super-eagles-thread-russia-2018/4225#68724376

I made this quote on this thread just after Musa scored. Funny you said I did not enjoy the goal. I just do not get captured with result but doing things the right way. I believe the right way brings the overall Best results in the long run.

Finito.
I didnt say you didnt enjoy goal. I said ''Talk true you no enjoy the goal?''. So it is left to you say if you enjoyed it or not grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:19pm On Jun 23, 2018
Icon4s:


Oga, you wan drop Musa, now wey him don pick form. Let us exploit him wella o before he falls back to his default mode grin grin grin grin grin

What Musa did especially in the second goal, I believe without a shred of doubt that Moses can do that better and repeatedly in a deadlier fashion. I was not joking when I said Moses is the ideal replacement for Salah at Liverpool. I trust the young man's ability.

Why wait for occasional fire from Musa while Moses packs it in bags.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:19pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


I know strikers can be selfish. Nice it worked out but Musa should be called on the play and next know he is to pass to players in good scoring positions to increase our chances to win.

Finito.

I don't know why Iheanacho kept asking for that ball. They had the same 2 people on the line to beat and the ball was already on Musa's right foot. It is not a guarantee that Kelechi would have scored because if Musa had passed they would surely have closed him down.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:20pm On Jun 23, 2018
Odunayaw:
Then you didn't watch 2010

We did not chain Messi in 2010 Enyeama's brilliance saved us from humilation. Messi repeatedly found his way through the maze of our players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 12:21pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


I know strikers can be selfish. Nice it worked out but Musa should be called on the play and next know he is to pass to players in good scoring positions to increase our chances to win.

Finito.

Good but did u know before Musa beat the goalkeeper, KC had a defender on him, and after dribbling the goalkeeper, the defender left KC to guide his post putting KC on a good scoring position but unfortunately for him(kc) Musa had already gotten into a better position with the keeper dribbling? in fact Musa was able to deceive both the keeper and defender using Kelechi.
If he had passed before dribbling that keeper, we might have missed Dat goal
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 12:21pm On Jun 23, 2018
Jarus:


We have to give him credit still.

He was the one that made us know 3-5-2 could work for us by testing it in friendly. Otherwise, we may not have thought we can play with such formation which is alien to our traditional style.
I believe he played that formation on the premise that most of our key players are absent.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:23pm On Jun 23, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


I don't know why Iheanacho kept asking for that ball. They had the same 2 people on the line to beat and the ball was already on Musa's right foot. It is not a guarantee that Kelechi would have scored because if Musa had passed they would surely have closed him down.

Musa had to stop and picked a tight angle while there was a chunk of space open between the defenders and the keeper for Nacho to finish.

Nacho is more electric in the box and a pass would have ended the struggle. However, like I told some people where I watched the match, Musa knew what he was doing. He went for the spectacula and achieved, lucky he did not end with the ordinary.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:24pm On Jun 23, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


I don't know why Iheanacho kept asking for that ball. They had the same 2 people on the line to beat and the ball was already on Musa's right foot. It is not a guarantee that Kelechi would have scored because if Musa had passed they would surely have closed him down.

It is not a guarantee Musa would have scored but it is always best to get the ball to the player with time and space to score. Rohr needs to iron that out with Musa. I am always for doing things the right way.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:25pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


What Musa did especially in the second goal, I believe without a shred of doubt that Moses can do that better and repeatedly in a deadlier fashion. I was not joking when I said Moses is the ideal replacement for Salah at Liverpool. I trust the young man's ability.

Why wait for occasional fire from Musa while Moses packs it in bags.

Bros, I know the abilities of both Moses and Musa. They are not Newbies in the national team. But there is something called tournament form. Some players just pick form in a tournament. It may be 1,2 or 3 matches, after which they fall back to default mode. Musa just performed magic, whether he will carry it to the next match or not we don't know. But why not give it that chance?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:25pm On Jun 23, 2018
ChrisKels:


Good but did u know before Musa beat the goalkeeper, KC had a defender on him, and after dribbling the goalkeeper, the defender left KC to guide his post putting KC on a good scoring position but unfortunately for him(kc) Musa had already gotten into a better position with the keeper dribbling? in fact Musa was able to deceive both the keeper and defender using Kelechi.
If he had passed before dribbling that keeper, we might have missed Dat goal

Does not change that passing was the better and easier choice. Glad we scored.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:28pm On Jun 23, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


I don't know why Iheanacho kept asking for that ball. They had the same 2 people on the line to beat and the ball was already on Musa's right foot. It is not a guarantee that Kelechi would have scored because if Musa had passed they would surely have closed him down.

God bless you my guy.

Musa, after beating that goalie was in a far better position to score. Why pass the ball back to Iheancho?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 12:28pm On Jun 23, 2018
Guys, I know we have all noticed the 2 penalties conceded in two games.

Messi may have missed the first time but he won't miss a second time, no matter how poor his form.

Rohr should speak to our guys. This is becoming a trend.

With the advent of the VAR, we need to be extra careful

Looking at both penalties, they could have been averted. I don't think the opposition was in a good position to shoot the ball in both instances

Also, Uzoho has been doing a fantastic job for his age, but has he been drilled for penalty shoot-outs?

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