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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:28pm On Jun 23, 2018
Icon4s:


Bros, I know the abilities of both Moses and Musa. They are not Newbies in the national team. But there is something called tournament form. Some players just pick form in a tournament. It may be 1,2 or 3 matches, after which they fall back to default mode. Musa just performed magic, whether he will carry it to the next match or not we don't know. But why not give it that chance?

I am always up for the better than depending on chance.

The simple question is, who has better abilities and quality to deliver those runs, have skill and also contribute defensively, it is Moses. Then play the better person. Ebuehi is prolific on the right wing back role. Settled.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 12:28pm On Jun 23, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


I don't know why Iheanacho kept asking for that ball. They had the same 2 people on the line to beat and the ball was already on Musa's right foot. It is not a guarantee that Kelechi would have scored because if Musa had passed they would surely have closed him down.


Exactly! In my opinion, Iheanacho was more likely to lose than Musa. Musa after that dribble was so balanced that he could score with his eye closed. Iheanacho who would very likely hit it first time had just one EASY corner to put it, Musa had TWO easy corners to put it. The middle was out of it.


But if Musa had released the pass just when the keeper rushed out, it would have been in Iheanacho's favor but after the dribble, it was Musa's goal to lose.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 12:29pm On Jun 23, 2018
andrew444:


Lol

I put musa first before nacho,he is not clinical than nacho but I know why I put him first,that guy pace no be here.

Nacho doesn't make such runs and score that type of second goal,even cr7 goals doesn't come such way.

I am just making an example
Imagine say na CR7 score that Musa second goal. I swear the world go observe WRD (world Ronaldo day)

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 12:29pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


We did not chain Messi in 2010 Enyeama's brilliance saved us from humilation. Messi repeatedly found his way through the maze of our players.
still I am not out of context. Enyeama's brilliance isnt part of the "chaining"? come on now

As far as am concerned, Messi's stars are not shining for him in this World cup and I say to hell with reputation he can be stopped
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 12:30pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


What Musa did especially in the second goal, I believe without a shred of doubt that Moses can do that better and repeatedly in a deadlier fashion. I was not joking when I said Moses is the ideal replacement for Salah at Liverpool. I trust the young man's ability.

Why wait for occasional fire from Musa while Moses packs it in bags.

Only the gullible will believe the bolded.

Ogbeni Moses would rather fall looking for a free kick that the ref would over look because Moses is known to the refs as a "fallmaniac"

Please stop dragging us back. I beg u in the name of whatever trips u d most

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:31pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


I am always up for the better than depending on chance.

The simple question is, who has better abilities and quality to deliver those runs, have skill and also contribute defensively, it is Moses. Then play the better person. Ebuehi is prolific on the right wing back role. Settled.


Musa has the psychological momentum. No need to tamper with that front line.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:31pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Musa had to stop and picked a tight angle while there was a chunk of space open between the defenders and the keeper for Nacho to finish.

Nacho is more electric in the box and a pass would have ended the struggle. However, like I told some people where I watched the match, Musa knew what he was doing. He went for the spectacula and achieved, lucky he did not end with the ordinary.

I think Musa took the safer and easier option. A pass would have complicated things the more. The best option was taken.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 12:31pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


What Musa did especially in the second goal, I believe without a shred of doubt that Moses can do that better and repeatedly in a deadlier fashion. I was not joking when I said Moses is the ideal replacement for Salah at Liverpool. I trust the young man's ability.

Why wait for occasional fire from Musa while Moses packs it in bags.

Wing back is Moses' strength. Let him flourish there. He won't get penalty with his diving in this world cup.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 12:31pm On Jun 23, 2018
do4luv14:



Take you no 4point, and think about it just the word SERVICE that's one thing ighalo had been deprived of and you people wanna chop him raw, your oher point are spot, except the one on oghalo
He mentioned Iheanacho making great runs. That's something Ighalo wouldn't do.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 12:35pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


It is not a guarantee Musa would have scored but it is always best to get the ball to the player with time and space to score. Rohr needs to iron that out with Musa. I am always for doing things the right way.
Someone knew what he had in mind,you're saying doing right thing grin

Is there a formula for football?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 12:37pm On Jun 23, 2018
ChrisKels:


Thanks to God it is ur formation not ours. Musa was the best the last this formation was played and u want him dropped just to create a space for Vicmo's unnecessary dribbling and falls up front.

We forbid this. E be like u are on a mission wt dis ur Vicmo woteva dis guy

Oh I didn't even notice Mikel ahead of Etebo and Ndidi Lol. If Mikel isn't ready to partner Ndidi so that Etebo or Iwobi plays ahead, he should sit. Also if Moses isn't ready to play the wing back role, he should also sit

Finito
Did you see the formation? Mikel didn't patner anyone. He was behind both Ndidi and Etebo. He was running sh!t from deep.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Xslaze3xd(m): 12:37pm On Jun 23, 2018
Odunayaw:
Then you didn't watch 2010
this artyman
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:37pm On Jun 23, 2018
Odunayaw:
Someone knew what he had in mind,you're saying doing right thing grin

Is there a formula for football?

grin abeg help me ask TheGoodJoe o
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 12:39pm On Jun 23, 2018
Naija folks don kill me grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:43pm On Jun 23, 2018
EEGA:
But against France in 2014 we conceded two with Enyeama between the sticks.

Uzoho is improving and is doing well.

He will retain the No.1 position for a very long time.

That is if there is no change of coach or better ones.

Moreover, there is no goalkeeper in the world wey no dey chop goal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 12:43pm On Jun 23, 2018
Xslaze3xd:
this artyman
Regimental don reach here!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:45pm On Jun 23, 2018
Odunayaw:
Someone knew what he had in mind,you're saying doing right thing grin

Is there a formula for football?

Yes there is a formula to football and a lot of teams are adapting to it. It is called the time and space formula. A simple understanding of it is get the ball to the player with more time and space.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:47pm On Jun 23, 2018
mank1234:


Wing back is Moses' strength. Let him flourish there. He won't get penalty with his diving in this world cup.

Moses has more to offer the team. He did not become the joker of the team playing the wing back role.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 12:49pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheLoneCitizen:



Exactly! In my opinion, Iheanacho was more likely to lose than Musa. Musa after that dribble was so balanced that he could score with his eye closed. Iheanacho who would very likely hit it first time had just one EASY corner to put it, Musa had TWO easy corners to put it. The middle was out of it.


But if Musa had released the pass just when the keeper rushed out, it would have been in Iheanacho's favor but after the dribble, it was Musa's goal to lose.


This was where Musa should have passed.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:49pm On Jun 23, 2018
Icon4s:



Musa has the psychological momentum. No need to tamper with that front line.

PsyKolo What?

How can you ascertain his psychology that day? He can play the role but I have no doubt Victor Moses will offer more offensively and defensively for the team in that role.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:50pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheLoneCitizen:



This was where Musa should have passed.

Thank you again. From Iheanacho's face, you can see clearly that tactically it was a goal with the pass to him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:52pm On Jun 23, 2018
ChrisKels:


Only the gullible will believe the bolded.

Ogbeni Moses would rather fall looking for a free kick that the ref would over look because Moses is known to the refs as a "fallmaniac"

Please stop dragging us back. I beg u in the name of whatever trips u d most

You think Moses became the joker of the team by falling. Smh.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 12:57pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Yes there is a formula to football and a lot of teams are adapting to it. It is called the time and space formula. A simple understanding of it is get the ball to the player with more time and space.
Long talk Sir

Whatever you may call it, there is one thing that must never be taken away from a player. Initiative Sir.

We do not want timid players, Musa was in the right position to score and that split second decision found the net, no one has the time for mathematical models
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 1:00pm On Jun 23, 2018
Certitude:

Did you see the formation? Mikel didn't patner anyone. He was behind both Ndidi and Etebo. He was running sh!t from deep.

But this thing u said has no correlation with what I was trynna correct nah.

GoodJoe said he wants Mikel ahead of Etebo and Ndidi in his fantasy formation, then I said no, that I would rather have him partner Ndidi while Etebo plays ahead of the two.

Back to ur argument, we played double pivot against Iceland, Mikel didn't play behind Ndidi
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:01pm On Jun 23, 2018
Odunayaw:
Long talk Sir

Whatever you may call it, there is one thing that must never be taken away from a player. Initiative Sir.

We do not want timid players, Musa was in the right position to score and that split second decision found the net, no one has the time for mathematical models

If we gave Initiative to players, there would be no team work and lack of cohesion will bring destruction.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:03pm On Jun 23, 2018
ChrisKels:


But this thing u said has no correlation with what I was trynna correct nah.

GoodJoe said he wants Mikel ahead of Etebo and Ndidi in his fantasy formation, then I said no, that I would rather have him partner Ndidi while Etebo plays ahead of the two.

Back to ur argument, we played double pivot against Iceland, Mikel didn't play behind Ndidi

Mikel in that formation will make a lot of contributions defensively but I would prefer Etebo tracking the Argentine runners. I want Mikel to have liberty to exploit the running of Iheanacho, Moses, Ebuehi and Idowu while our midfield and defense stay compact.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:04pm On Jun 23, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e1i1b5aeXI

An interesting goal from an attack pair I liked. The unselfish play of the attackers made the attack fluid and very dangerous.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 1:04pm On Jun 23, 2018
forgiveness:


That is if there is no change of coach or better ones.

Moreover, there is no goalkeeper in the world wey no dey chop goal.
did change of coach relegate Enyeama after the World Cup?

Uzoho will be number 1 for a long time, because new coaches rarely change #1 goalies as long as they have proven to be good.

And despite your reservations, the rest of the world has seen that Uzoho is good, even controversial Oliseh was impressed by the boy. Na only you know wetin you still dey find

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 1:04pm On Jun 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


If we gave Initiative to players, there would be no team work and lack of cohesion will bring destruction.
Initiative isn't absence of discipline. We weren't controlling the game with a PS2 pad now,were we?

Initiative is an example of Ndidi's long ranger.. it is that spark that differentiate a player from footballers
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chimzyblack(m): 1:05pm On Jun 23, 2018
We don't need any Moses as part of the front two,he is better in the wing back role, he loves direct runs, and playing him as part of the front two means depriving him of the space he enjoys.
Musa also loves to run too but the difference between musa and Moses is that Moses is too direct with his runs but musa is not so direct he can easily make those swift turn that can confuse the defenders while in MOTION and this is very key to scoring goals.

MY PREFARED LINE-UP FOR ARGENTINA

UZOHO
EKONG-BALOGUN-OMERUO

MOSES-NDIDI-MIKEL-IWOBI-IDOWU

IHEANACHO-MUSA



# IWOBI to play an Am/Cm role and will start ahead of Etebo
He (etebo) didn't offer much going forward much as an AM, there were two occasions where Etebo had the chance to lay a good pass to Iheanacho or musa instead he opted to shoot and was blocked on both occasion an IWOBI would have given a defence splitting pass that could have resulted in a goal or at least a better attempt at goal.

SUBS
1.Etebo comes in for Iwobi btw the 60-70 minute.
2.Ebuehi for Idowu.
3.Simi for Iheanacho

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:05pm On Jun 23, 2018
Icon4s:


God bless you my guy.

Musa, after beating that goalie was in a far better position to score. Why pass the ball back to Iheancho?

Some could even have blamed Iheanacho for getting in the way if he missed. I am also for doing things the right way but sometimes pass pass dey too is not good.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 1:06pm On Jun 23, 2018
Is that really a penalty? So much for VAR. Mtcheeew

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