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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:30pm On Jun 28, 2018
Oasis007:
grin

It's high time we stop building Super Eagles around the Rookies. Let's forget Eagles painful Exit at the World Cup. AFCON Qualifiers should be a Priority on this Thread now.

I will never advice or support the Closure of this Thread, nor will I call for the Sack of Gernot Rohr, rather gonna hope a competent Assistant is appointed to replace Salisu Yusuf.

More so, I hope Rohr has learned one or two things from this World Cup Experience. I kept imagine what possibly a Combo of Musa and Martins would have produced in a 3 - 5 - 2 Formation?? We can't completely rid off the Team of all our experienced Players who are still balling for their respective Clubs.

We still need Mikel in the Team, so is Martins - cos he's still balling and deadly with Pace as well as in the Box. It's apparent Ahmed Musa excels as a Striker - in 2-Man Attack. I hope Rohr believes in him, and never play him on the Wing again.

Also, Iwobi should be given the No. 10 Role for the Team. I am high confident he's the missing Jigsaw to complete the Puzzle. Etebo ain't suitable for Midfield Role cos he's technically deficient, whereas power and pace ain't much needed in the Midfield but on the Wing.

Mikel played well as a DM/CM, hope Rohr forms a Pivot of him and Ndidi during the AFCON Qualifiers and builds on it. Ogu, Onazi should be replaced with Nwakali Brothers, while Ajagun comes in to replace Joel Obi in the Midfield.

Rohr should fully work on building a formidable Midfield for the Team - indomitable, very technical, decisive, creative Midfield for the Team. Matches are won from Midfield during this Era - Lose the Midfield and lose the Game.

Modified: I will not respond to your Quote(s), except you present Stats and Facts to critique the Post. Enough of being lazy on this Thread. If you have a contrary view, feel free to drop it but in a convincing Manner.

We do better with 2 strikers. Ahmed Musa is number one. Kayode and Martins should be called back to the team. Onyekuru, Simon Moses, Isaac Success and Ademola Lookman should be in our team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SerVik(m): 2:32pm On Jun 28, 2018
Unlimited22:

grin grin
Never did I imagine.
Shows how much the game has developed. I'm so enjoying this world cup
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:33pm On Jun 28, 2018
Odunayaw:
You guys have started again?
Obawetin? Wasn't it on this same thread Iheanacho was hyped,stoned,hyped and stoned again.

Obafemi is far better than Kelechi Iheanacho. We still need experience in the team and these old ones can pass theirs to the young ones. Rojo scored because Messi told them to all try to score in that situation.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:34pm On Jun 28, 2018
What they are indirectly calling for is a disbandment of the team. Our players did not play badly especially in the second halves. The next task is to teach them to start firing from the blast of the whistle. With a capable bench we should be able to play with high intensity feel start to finish. That’s only what’s lacking in this team. And of course team building is continuous. There will be new players, but they would have to earn their place in the team.



Icon79:
Bros, na you get time with all the silly, emotional and idiotic reactions by some so called soccer fans. I am just so happy that these folks are not the ones making decisions for the team. It's extremely difficult to understand the game if you've never been out there to play. The game is much easier when you're watching it from the stands or from the comfort of your living room sofa. Hence, these mugus would have the audacity to call names to the boys who sweated blood to represent their country.

Seriously, Nigerians are some of the loudest and most annoying human beings on earth!


O pari

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 2:34pm On Jun 28, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
It's saddening... I feel like crying right now. The coach left a lot to be desired.

I was expecting the talented and promising Iwobi to have a decent playing time st least.

What about Tyrone and even Simy.

He failed to unlock the youthfulness and talent of our squad. I commend him for the Uzoho discovery. Part of me is confused cause I want him out but I don't wanna disrupt our teams development.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:36pm On Jun 28, 2018
Oasis007:
grin

I guess Shehu is done as a RB for the Eagles. The Lad is a Midfielder, he had covered well when we were lacking, but we've got capable Players for the Position now - Tyrone and Aina.

Thanks to Echiejile for his Services in GWG. We've seen enough of him and we really appreciate him a lot. I hope Scouts of the Eagles do wonderful Job to fish at least a superb LB like Alaba for the Team.

The Team is still OK with Ekong, Balogun, Omeruo and Awaziem as a backup for now. No need for Addition or Subtraction.

Deji-Beyreuther is a natural left back. He can be Idowu's back up.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 2:45pm On Jun 28, 2018
Thank you! The boys tried their best. No need to call them names. Some of them were willing to die on the pitch and how we pay them back is by posting trash on social media? What kind of people are we

The powerhouse Germany just lost to minnows South Korea, but I am sure that you don't get the level of name callings and emotional outbursts from them like you do from Nigeria. Some of them even went as far as abusing the wives of the players. For what exactly
Anytime we lose, we always start looking for somebody to blame and someone scapegoat ... forgetting that sometimes you lose due to hard luck or simply because the other team was better. Yes, Jude Ighalo's miss was bad but I have seen even Cristiano Ronaldo missed easier chances. And in addition, the dude has acknowledged his error and apologized ... just get over it. Damn it!!!

Some Nigerians make me sick, seriously.


O pari


O pari

Joebie:
What they are indirectly calling for is a disbandment of the team. Our players did not play badly especially in the second halves. The next task is to teach them to start firing from the blast of the whistle. With a capable bench we should be able to play with high intensity feel start to finish. That’s only what’s lacking in this team. And of course team building is continuous. There will be new players, but they would have to earn their place in the team.



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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 2:54pm On Jun 28, 2018
Friends, Countrymen, Nairalanders.....

Why Super Eagles Lost


Its a little too late to be shedding tears now and be complaining. What's done is done. I think the only opponent Gernot Rohr put his energy and time into monitoring was Cameroon. He went to the ends of the earth for them. He went to the Afcon 2017, even monitored them all the way to confederations cup and tactically, he knew how to beat them. And we saw the result, a resounding and emphatic win. That off the top of my head is the only time Rohr did opponent monitoring. The rest fixtures became que sera sera, what will be will be. We had known the opponents in our group since november last year. What noticeable technicalities were deployed against individuals we played against at this world cup? I am afraid to say none. We never heard of we are the underdogs in the World cup qualifiers. Then the losses started and we started hearing we are the underdogs (supposedly leaning towards fifa ranking).

What kind of preparation was going on in the camp of Super Eagles? Regular training? What was he telling the boys? I would have expected him to scout out Croatia being our first game and deploy the right tactics against them but alas, he probably felt we still have a luxury of 2games to be played after that 1st match (suffice to say that this is the first world cup where i see that 6points is not even a gurantee of goin thru). Going into the first game, I cant see any meaningful tactics deployed against the croats. He made the boys feel like they were undeserving to have qualified. Excuse me sir! We practically waltzed through our qualifiers even with the knowledge that we were probably gonna be bested by Cameroon and Algeria. That must have taken all the wind out of Rohr's sails cos it ultimately affected his game plan going into the friendlies. Then we started seeing disjointed plays. Our boys couldnt even string 3 passes without it being intercepted. It got bad that we now got labelled 2nd half team.

He started messing with the confidence and self belief of our players from the poland game. I would have expected him to consolidate on the magical 3-5-2 and incorporate whomsoever into that idea but no. He stuck to lone ranger pattern upfront. By the time we played England, those who know will tell you that Nigeria has sworn to beat England right in their backyard. In fact, I for one believed in those boys and in what they could do. But again, our gaffer went with his long ball method (find the lone striker upfront and hope he smashes it into the net).


Why bench Iwobi?

In a team where we didnt have creative midfielders who make things happen, why bench Alex Iwobi? If he tried iwobi in the wings and his best is not there but in the middle, why not play him there? For the life of me, i cant fathom that out. The only answer that comes to me is he is only retaliating on what the media reported Austin Okocha and Mourinho to have said during and after the match against croatia.

#Teamwork
Seems the way our players act, right from the days ofthe qualifiers is "every man for himself, God for us all." I recall when goodjoe was talking about Musa should av passed to Iheanacho (even though on that particular incident i wouldnt advise so), what that simply bred was the desire for self glorification. It didnt start in the final match. It started way back. Everyone trying to show what he can do. We all know the worst culprit and frankly, I wont mention his name but he started that vibe.
The culture of it doesnt matter who scores so long as the team progresses is missing in our team. Heck, the swift business like exchange of passes that we saw in the argentina friendly disappeared into the thin air right after that match. The kind of partnership that exists between Giovanni Dos Santos and Carlos Vela from 2010 world cup, between Suarez and Cavani didnt seem to exist between any of our forwards. Each person fighting for his own portfolio. Other than Mikel who is not competing with anyone, all of our forward were not establishing relationship. I thought the "bromance" between Iheanacho and Iwobi would actually transfer to the pitch but alas, everyone wanted to prove a point.
Now Iheanacho, Musa , Moses and Ighalo disappointed me with their decision making which centered around getting their goal for themselves. It didnt matter who was in a better position. This happened countless times where players try going solo. If we had made our chances count, we wont be talking about crashing out so early. This should have been inculcated into their games. This is national team and not Premier league club. I hope this will not happen again.

Tactically speaking.....

Gernot Rohr goofed a lot and he diddnt start goofing yesterday or last week. He started goofing from the S.A match. (Yeah... I said it.) From his substitutions to his game plans all were wrong. He has not trained this guys to be heavy on possession. Every thing is by chance as far as the gaffer is concerned. While I wouldnt fault his choice of players or his loyalty to his own , I would fault his decision making. I would fault his substitutions and selections for matchdays. He allowed sentiments to cloud his reasoning. He went i to all the world cup matches hoping nothing goes wrong and without plan B. He leaves his substitutions till late and when he does make them, they never make any sense to the cause of the game.


I submit to you.....

The sole reason we crashed and burned was the man..... Gernot Rohr. He played both the Hero and the Villain. I sincerely hope he wasnt paid by external forces to sabotage the team. Cos this world cup display of our team left us livid with anger when we should be riding on the brand SUPER EAGLES. This team is not the one that played the qualifiers with business in mind. The team had all the quality needed but wrongly deployed. It was a case of building a house and sending the bricklayer to do the wiring of the house or sending the plumber to go do landscaping.




Going Forward.....

Should we keep up with this man? Tough cookie. A part of me wants him retained because changing a coach in a year we are supposed to be having qualifiers for Afcon has a way of setting the team as whole back. But then if I have to go by all I have written above, I will not hesitate to have him fired in a heartbeat. His decisions are suspect. In fact I cant even advise any course of action on him. What we need is a coach that understands how Nigeria plays, who Nigerians are and understands our Passion and Pain, our Struggle to keep it all together as a nation and that folks can never be a foreign technical adviser. As much as I like foreign technical advisers, they can be compromised! They have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

On the other hand, our home based coaches are also not fun. The less said , the better. A consortium of coaches perhsps? If only they are willing to work together.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 2:56pm On Jun 28, 2018
I hope you now agree that Nacho doesn't really know how to dribble. It was so evident against Argentina.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:57pm On Jun 28, 2018
daveP:
I hate to say this now that it's all over, but Obagoal would have gotten us somewhere better than this so called Ighalo that made us "Go down low"

Oh you are saying what I have been saying since day one. And getting abuse left right and center.

Imagine Obagoal was playing in Leicester do you think he would have scored only three goals in the EPL.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 3:01pm On Jun 28, 2018
Icon79:
Thank you! The boys tried their best. No need to call them names. Some of them were willing to die on the pitch and how we pay them back is by posting trash on social media? What kind of people are we

The powerhouse Germany just lost to minnows South Korea, but I am sure that you don't get the level of name callings and emotional outbursts from them like you do from Nigeria. Some of them even went as far as abusing the wives of the players. For what exactly
Anytime we lose, we always start looking for somebody to blame and someone scapegoat ... forgetting that sometimes you lose due to hard luck or simply because the other team was better. Yes, Jude Ighalo's miss was bad but I have seen even Cristiano Ronaldo missed easier chances. And in addition, the dude has acknowledged his error and apologized ... just get over it. Damn it!!!

Some Nigerians make me sick, seriously.


O pari


O pari

I'm one of those who criticised him for the missed chances but on second thought, he did well in that game. But we need him to score.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 3:03pm On Jun 28, 2018
Bolowolowo:


He failed to unlock the youthfulness and talent of our squad. I commend him for the Uzoho discovery. Part of me is confused cause I want him out but I don't wanna disrupt our teams development.
It would be wise to keep him till at least after the AFCON for continuity.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 3:03pm On Jun 28, 2018
grin

Wanted to fiercely respond to an iconic Twerp that couldn't control his Anger, rather chose to ridicule himself with shameful Rants.

Alas! I remember one of the Quotes of Mahatma Ghandi, thus I will let it slide.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:04pm On Jun 28, 2018
Oasis007:
grin

It's high time we stop building Super Eagles around the Rookies. Let's forget Eagles painful Exit at the World Cup. AFCON Qualifiers should be a Priority on this Thread now.

I will never advice or support the Closure of this Thread, nor will I call for the Sack of Gernot Rohr, rather gonna hope a competent Assistant is appointed to replace Salisu Yusuf.

More so, I hope Rohr has learned one or two things from this World Cup Experience. I kept imagine what possibly a Combo of Musa and Martins would have produced in a 3 - 5 - 2 Formation?? We can't completely rid off the Team of all our experienced Players who are still balling for their respective Clubs.

We still need Mikel in the Team, so is Martins - cos he's still balling and deadly with Pace as well as in the Box. It's apparent Ahmed Musa excels as a Striker - in 2-Man Attack. I hope Rohr believes in him, and never play him on the Wing again.

Also, Iwobi should be given the No. 10 Role for the Team. I am high confident he's the missing Jigsaw to complete the Puzzle. Etebo ain't suitable for Midfield Role cos he's technically deficient, whereas power and pace ain't much needed in the Midfield but on the Wing.

Mikel played well as a DM/CM, hope Rohr forms a Pivot of him and Ndidi during the AFCON Qualifiers and builds on it. Ogu, Onazi should be replaced with Nwakali Brothers, while Ajagun comes in to replace Joel Obi in the Midfield.

Rohr should fully work on building a formidable Midfield for the Team - indomitable, very technical, decisive, creative Midfield for the Team. Matches are won from Midfield during this Era - Lose the Midfield and lose the Game.

Modified: I will not respond to your Quote(s), except you present Stats and Facts to critique the Post. Enough of being lazy on this Thread. If you have a contrary view, feel free to drop it but in a convincing Manner.


Firstly, Etebo was one of our best players and I don't think he is technically deficient. I have predicted vthat he will be in the EPL January 2019.

Nwakali brother rely entirely on past glories, have done absolutely nothing to justify a call up. Until they prove themselves they are essentially going down hill.

When Liverpool played Manchester United what gave them the victory The midfield or the power, pace and finishing of one the best strikers in the world Lukaku.

So I don't completely agree with your analogy, we had a decent midfield but dead strikers to call a spade a spade.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:06pm On Jun 28, 2018
Oasis007:
grin

I guess Shehu is done as a RB for the Eagles. The Lad is a Midfielder, he had covered well when we were lacking, but we've got capable Players for the Position now - Tyrone and Aina.

Thanks to Echiejile for his Services in GWG. We've seen enough of him and we really appreciate him a lot. I hope Scouts of the Eagles do wonderful Job to fish at least a superb LB like Alaba for the Team.

The Team is still OK with Ekong, Balogun, Omeruo and Awaziem as a backup for now. No need for Addition or Subtraction.

I want to see how Dominic Iorfa gets on in the EPL with Wolves.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 3:07pm On Jun 28, 2018
kennysville:
Friends, Countrymen, Nairalanders.....

Why Super Eagles Lost


Its a little too late to be shedding tears now and be complaining. What's done is done. I think the only opponent Gernot Rohr put his energy and time into monitoring was Cameroon. He went to the ends of the earth for them. He went to the Afcon 2017, even monitored them all the way to confederations cup and tactically, he knew how to beat them. And we saw the result, a resounding and emphatic win. That off the top of my head is the only time Rohr did opponent monitoring. The rest fixtures became que sera sera, what will be will be. We had known the opponents in our group since november last year. What noticeable technicalities were deployed against individuals we played against at this world cup? I am afraid to say none. We never heard of we are the underdogs in the World cup qualifiers. Then the losses started and we started hearing we are the underdogs (supposedly leaning towards fifa ranking).

What kind of preparation was going on in the camp of Super Eagles? Regular training? What was he telling the boys? I would have expected him to scout out Croatia being our first game and deploy the right tactics against them but alas, he probably felt we still have a luxury of 2games to be played after that 1st match (suffice to say that this is the first world cup where i see that 6points is not even a gurantee of goin thru). Going into the first game, I cant see any meaningful tactics deployed against the croats. He made the boys feel like they were undeserving to have qualified. Excuse me sir! We practically waltzed through our qualifiers even with the knowledge that we were probably gonna be bested by Cameroon and Algeria. That must have taken all the wind out of Rohr's sails cos it ultimately affected his game plan going into the friendlies. Then we started seeing disjointed plays. Our boys couldnt even string 3 passes without it being intercepted. It got bad that we now got labelled 2nd half team.

He started messing with the confidence and self belief of our players from the poland game. I would have expected him to consolidate on the magical 3-5-2 and incorporate whomsoever into that idea but no. He stuck to lone ranger pattern upfront. By the time we played England, those who know will tell you that Nigeria has sworn to beat England right in their backyard. In fact, I for one believed in those boys and in what they could do. But again, our gaffer went with his long ball method (find the lone striker upfront and hope he smashes it into the net).


Why bench Iwobi?

In a team where we didnt have creative midfielders who make things happen, why bench Alex Iwobi? If he tried iwobi in the wings and his best is not there but in the middle, why not play him there? For the life of me, i cant fathom that out. The only answer that comes to me is he is only retaliating on what the media reported Austin Okocha and Mourinho to have said during and after the match against croatia.

#Teamwork
Seems the way our players act, right from the days ofthe qualifiers is "every man for himself, God for us all." I recall when goodjoe was talking about Musa should av passed to Iheanacho (even though on that particular incident i wouldnt advise so), what that simply bred was the desire for self glorification. It didnt start in the final match. It started way back. Everyone trying to show what he can do. We all know the worst culprit and frankly, I wont mention his name but he started that vibe.
The culture of it doesnt matter who scores so long as the team progresses is missing in our team. Heck, the swift business like exchange of passes that we saw in the argentina friendly disappeared into the thin air right after that match. The kind of partnership that exists between Giovanni Dos Santos and Carlos Vela from 2010 world cup, between Suarez and Cavani didnt seem to exist between any of our forwards. Each person fighting for his own portfolio. Other than Mikel who is not competing with anyone, all of our forward were not establishing relationship. I thought the "bromance" between Iheanacho and Iwobi would actually transfer to the pitch but alas, everyone wanted to prove a point.
Now Iheanacho, Musa , Moses and Ighalo disappointed me with their decision making which centered around getting their goal for themselves. It didnt matter who was in a better position. This happened countless times where players try going solo. If we had made our chances count, we wont be talking about crashing out so early. This should have been inculcated into their games. This is national team and not Premier league club. I hope this will not happen again.

Tactically speaking.....

Gernot Rohr goofed a lot and he diddnt start goofing yesterday or last week. He started goofing from the S.A match. (Yeah... I said it.) From his substitutions to his game plans all were wrong. He has not trained this guys to be heavy on possession. Every thing is by chance as far as the gaffer is concerned. While I wouldnt fault his choice of players or his loyalty to his own , I would fault his decision making. I would fault his substitutions and selections for matchdays. He allowed sentiments to cloud his reasoning. He went i to all the world cup matches hoping nothing goes wrong and without plan B. He leaves his substitutions till late and when he does make them, they never make any sense to the cause of the game.


I submit to you.....

The sole reason we crashed and burned was the man..... Gernot Rohr. He played both the Hero and the Villain. I sincerely hope he wasnt paid by external forces to sabotage the team. Cos this world cup display of our team left us livid with anger when we should be riding on the brand SUPER EAGLES. This team is not the one that played the qualifiers with business in mind. The team had all the quality needed but wrongly deployed. It was a case of building a house and sending the bricklayer to do the wiring of the house or sending the plumber to go do landscaping.




Going Forward.....

Should we keep up with this man? Tough cookie. A part of me wants him retained because changing a coach in a year we are supposed to be having qualifiers for Afcon has a way of setting the team as whole back. But then if I have to go by all I have written above, I will not hesitate to have him fired in a heartbeat. His decisions are suspect. In fact I cant even advise any course of action on him. What we need is a coach that understands how Nigeria plays, who Nigerians are and understands our Passion and Pain, our Struggle to keep it all together as a nation and that folks can never be a foreign technical adviser. As much as I like foreign technical advisers, they can be compromised! They have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

On the other hand, our home based coaches are also not fun. The less said , the better. A consortium of coaches perhsps? If only they are willing to work together.


When Rohr decided to play the 3-5-2, he didn't play with a 10. That's the reason Iwobi wasn't played. There was no way Rohr would play Etebo as 10 with Iwobi on the bench.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:09pm On Jun 28, 2018
Senegal the only African team standing, I hope they beat Colombia and cover the continents shame.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 3:22pm On Jun 28, 2018
komekn:


I want to see how Dominic Iorfa gets on in the EPL with Wolves.


grin

Is Dominic Iorfa a LB?! If he's and he's ready to don the GWG Jersey, I think he deserves a look in as well as Deji suggested by Forgiveness and some other Folks.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 3:25pm On Jun 28, 2018
komekn:



Firstly, Etebo was one of our best players and I don't think he is technically deficient. I have predicted vthat he will be in the EPL January 2019.

Nwakali brother rely entirely on past glories, have done absolutely nothing to justify a call up. Until they prove themselves they are essentially going down hill.

When Liverpool played Manchester United what gave them the victory The midfield or the power, pace and finishing of one the best strikers in the world Lukaku.

So I don't completely agree with your analogy, we had a decent midfield but dead strikers to call a spade a spade.


grin

Etebo is workaholic but ain't creative Bro. I love his commitment on the Pitch coz he rarely gives less 100% for the Eagles. I would love him to develop his Game as a B2B Midfielder though, but hopefully gonna become a more better Player with Stoke City as perhaps a B2B Midfielder.

Nwakali Brothers ain't overrated Bruh, they are very talented Lads. I guess you saw the A. Madrid Game?! Even though it ain't a tense Game, still they gave good Accounts of their respective Selves.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 3:26pm On Jun 28, 2018
kennysville:
Friends, Countrymen, Nairalanders.....

Why Super Eagles Lost


Its a little too late to be shedding tears now and be complaining. What's done is done. I think the only opponent Gernot Rohr put his energy and time into monitoring was Cameroon. He went to the ends of the earth for them. He went to the Afcon 2017, even monitored them all the way to confederations cup and tactically, he knew how to beat them. And we saw the result, a resounding and emphatic win. That off the top of my head is the only time Rohr did opponent monitoring. The rest fixtures became que sera sera, what will be will be. We had known the opponents in our group since november last year. What noticeable technicalities were deployed against individuals we played against at this world cup? I am afraid to say none. We never heard of we are the underdogs in the World cup qualifiers. Then the losses started and we started hearing we are the underdogs (supposedly leaning towards fifa ranking).

What kind of preparation was going on in the camp of Super Eagles? Regular training? What was he telling the boys? I would have expected him to scout out Croatia being our first game and deploy the right tactics against them but alas, he probably felt we still have a luxury of 2games to be played after that 1st match (suffice to say that this is the first world cup where i see that 6points is not even a gurantee of goin thru). Going into the first game, I cant see any meaningful tactics deployed against the croats. He made the boys feel like they were undeserving to have qualified. Excuse me sir! We practically waltzed through our qualifiers even with the knowledge that we were probably gonna be bested by Cameroon and Algeria. That must have taken all the wind out of Rohr's sails cos it ultimately affected his game plan going into the friendlies. Then we started seeing disjointed plays. Our boys couldnt even string 3 passes without it being intercepted. It got bad that we now got labelled 2nd half team.

He started messing with the confidence and self belief of our players from the poland game. I would have expected him to consolidate on the magical 3-5-2 and incorporate whomsoever into that idea but no. He stuck to lone ranger pattern upfront. By the time we played England, those who know will tell you that Nigeria has sworn to beat England right in their backyard. In fact, I for one believed in those boys and in what they could do. But again, our gaffer went with his long ball method (find the lone striker upfront and hope he smashes it into the net).


Why bench Iwobi?

In a team where we didnt have creative midfielders who make things happen, why bench Alex Iwobi? If he tried iwobi in the wings and his best is not there but in the middle, why not play him there? For the life of me, i cant fathom that out. The only answer that comes to me is he is only retaliating on what the media reported Austin Okocha and Mourinho to have said during and after the match against croatia.

#Teamwork
Seems the way our players act, right from the days ofthe qualifiers is "every man for himself, God for us all." I recall when goodjoe was talking about Musa should av passed to Iheanacho (even though on that particular incident i wouldnt advise so), what that simply bred was the desire for self glorification. It didnt start in the final match. It started way back. Everyone trying to show what he can do. We all know the worst culprit and frankly, I wont mention his name but he started that vibe.
The culture of it doesnt matter who scores so long as the team progresses is missing in our team. Heck, the swift business like exchange of passes that we saw in the argentina friendly disappeared into the thin air right after that match. The kind of partnership that exists between Giovanni Dos Santos and Carlos Vela from 2010 world cup, between Suarez and Cavani didnt seem to exist between any of our forwards. Each person fighting for his own portfolio. Other than Mikel who is not competing with anyone, all of our forward were not establishing relationship. I thought the "bromance" between Iheanacho and Iwobi would actually transfer to the pitch but alas, everyone wanted to prove a point.
Now Iheanacho, Musa , Moses and Ighalo disappointed me with their decision making which centered around getting their goal for themselves. It didnt matter who was in a better position. This happened countless times where players try going solo. If we had made our chances count, we wont be talking about crashing out so early. This should have been inculcated into their games. This is national team and not Premier league club. I hope this will not happen again.

Tactically speaking.....

Gernot Rohr goofed a lot and he diddnt start goofing yesterday or last week. He started goofing from the S.A match. (Yeah... I said it.) From his substitutions to his game plans all were wrong. He has not trained this guys to be heavy on possession. Every thing is by chance as far as the gaffer is concerned. While I wouldnt fault his choice of players or his loyalty to his own , I would fault his decision making. I would fault his substitutions and selections for matchdays. He allowed sentiments to cloud his reasoning. He went i to all the world cup matches hoping nothing goes wrong and without plan B. He leaves his substitutions till late and when he does make them, they never make any sense to the cause of the game.


I submit to you.....

The sole reason we crashed and burned was the man..... Gernot Rohr. He played both the Hero and the Villain. I sincerely hope he wasnt paid by external forces to sabotage the team. Cos this world cup display of our team left us livid with anger when we should be riding on the brand SUPER EAGLES. This team is not the one that played the qualifiers with business in mind. The team had all the quality needed but wrongly deployed. It was a case of building a house and sending the bricklayer to do the wiring of the house or sending the plumber to go do landscaping.




Going Forward.....

Should we keep up with this man? Tough cookie. A part of me wants him retained because changing a coach in a year we are supposed to be having qualifiers for Afcon has a way of setting the team as whole back. But then if I have to go by all I have written above, I will not hesitate to have him fired in a heartbeat. His decisions are suspect. In fact I cant even advise any course of action on him. What we need is a coach that understands how Nigeria plays, who Nigerians are and understands our Passion and Pain, our Struggle to keep it all together as a nation and that folks can never be a foreign technical adviser. As much as I like foreign technical advisers, they can be compromised! They have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

On the other hand, our home based coaches are also not fun. The less said , the better. A consortium of coaches perhsps? If only they are willing to work together.


,Nice piece. I share your views bro
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 3:38pm On Jun 28, 2018
Fifa na criminals, Dat was a clear penalty for Senegal
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 3:40pm On Jun 28, 2018
Honestly Senegal has a very sweet team. I'm jealous

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Afobear: 3:50pm On Jun 28, 2018
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:55pm On Jun 28, 2018
portueguese giants fc porto in advanced talk with arsenal to take kelechi nwakali on loan

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 3:55pm On Jun 28, 2018
Afobear:
Hi
afore tombo grin grin grin
I don't give flying FVCKS on that shiii up there,
What I know is this..

U re dumbass broke hoe tongue
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 3:56pm On Jun 28, 2018
Porto first team wants KC Nwakali.
I will advice him to jump at the opportunity

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 4:02pm On Jun 28, 2018
komekn:


Oh you are saying what I have been saying since day one. And getting abuse left right and center.

Imagine Obagoal was playing in Leicester do you think he would have scored only three goals in the EPL.



I saw it and I also was solidly behind the Obagoal invite until that Injury news came up, before I stopped.


I saw the Insults, and I'd say not only you was Insulted for saying stuff, but it was unfair. I hope those that placed the hope in Ighalo the Mr go down low, have seen saw and conquered already?!!!


If only that fat fuul called Isaac was serious with life..... going upandan getting fat and disgracing Watford, Granada.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 4:08pm On Jun 28, 2018
forgiveness:


Obafemi is far better than Kelechi Iheanacho. We still need experience in the team and these old ones can pass theirs to the young ones. Rojo scored because Messi told them to all try to score in that situation.
He is better now? that's the new hymn? Obafemi would have been another reason/avenue for blames

as far as am concerned, Rojo scored by seizing the opportunity. Moses was in his path but was slower
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Afobear: 4:14pm On Jun 28, 2018
krattoss:
afore tombo grin grin grin
I don't give flying FVCKS on that shiii up there,
What I know is this..

U re dumbass broke hoe tongue
Yes ooo...I'm broke because I tried importing an esteemed LovePeddler unlike you and your 500 knacks ...the Ashawo thread is a Testament to this ...save your measly 1500 for your 4 knack this week

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Afobear: 4:15pm On Jun 28, 2018
Odunayaw:
He is better now? that's the new hymn? Obafemi would have been another reason/avenue for blames

as far as am concerned, Rojo scored by seizing the opportunity. Moses was in his path but was slower
Are you in the round of 16 yet?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 4:27pm On Jun 28, 2018
Dis Senegal keeper always dey sip his lips like he is smoking weed. His lips and teeth sef gave him away as real igbo smoker

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 4:39pm On Jun 28, 2018
Afobear:

Yes ooo...I'm broke because I tried importing an esteemed LovePeddler unlike you and your 500 knacks ...the Ashawo thread is a Testament to this ...save your measly 1500 for your 4 knack this week
afore Guinness grin grin

How do u feel no African advancing through the group stages undecided

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