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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:07pm On Jul 02, 2018 |
Joebie: Ighalo did pretty much the same thing for Mikel to score against Cameroon in Uyo. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by semid4lyfe(m): 10:25pm On Jul 02, 2018 |
komekn: If you have and you still opine Nwakali is not good enough for an invite to the Super Eagles then like we say in local parlance, "you no sabi shishi about football" and henceforth I have stopped taking you seriously 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:28pm On Jul 02, 2018 |
forgiveness: I know that but they need to get coaching jobs. Enyimba's coach also has UEFA coaching license. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:50pm On Jul 02, 2018 |
komekn:I think you need to understand the context and the reason why Nwakali is highly regarded. You cannot isolate the fact that he is a Nigerian football project. He came through the ranks and captained Nigerian U17s to a world championship. He's not a random talent who is stuck in Europe, the devil is in the detail here. Nwakali is such a talent who Nigeria football cannot afford not be part of his growth because it is expected that he will lead the new generation of Nigerian players. He absolutely looks the real deal. Mind you, midfielders don't usually plateau at 19, his celine is very high Also, he is highly regarded at Arsenal that is why they refused a sale on clause in the deal with Porto. His goal against Athletico was madly celebrated by many Arsenal blogs. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 11:26pm On Jul 02, 2018 |
Will VAR be use for AFCON 2019 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:36pm On Jul 02, 2018 |
The fat fool Giwa, is now in control!!!! Lord help us!! Which kine demon dey this Glass House wey just want attention of confusion see ehn I can smell Afcon disappearing slowly. It's atypical for Nigerians to let go of positions just like that. What is it that we don't know about Pinnick actually? He just let go without even a media talk? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:36pm On Jul 02, 2018 |
goldfish80: There is different between Iceland is a bigger football country than Japan and Iceland has produced players greater than Japan. Gerrit? So, stop twisting point. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:40pm On Jul 02, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli: I see. You mean Aigbogun? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:05am On Jul 03, 2018 |
Taliban: KDB can deliver and earn accolades as a forward but his intellect in reading the game and quick instinct makes him a demand for the midfield role. He is sacrificing his personal for the team. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 12:11am On Jul 03, 2018 |
daveP:When did this happen? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 12:17am On Jul 03, 2018 |
edi287:Yesterday. it's on FP. I wonder what kind of misfortune is all these now. Taking of 200milllion football lovers for granted!!! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:19am On Jul 03, 2018 |
forgiveness:The argument you walked into was which team was better between Iceland and Japan. You jumped in and claimed Iceland have produced the greater players. Critically looking at the players Iceland have produced, Eidur Gudjohnson alone stands out having played for Chelsea and Barcelona. Looking at Japan, they may not have produced any player for Barcelona but they have produced the likes of Nakata, Inamoto, Kagawa, Nagatomo, Nakamura, Honda etc who collectively have played for Arsenal, Inter Milan, Ac Milan, Dortmond and Man utd to name a few. Suggesting Iceland have produced better players because of one man is akin to saying Liberia have produced better players than Nigeria because they have produced a Ballon dor winner. Or alluding Trinidad and Tobago have produced better players than Nigeria because Dwight Yorke is from there. Gerrit? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 12:37am On Jul 03, 2018 |
FIFA has given a response so this thing should end rather quickly. Let's hope our AFCON qualifiers aren't in jeopardy and vision 2022 continues in full effect. Fifa Says No Court Can Stop Pinnick As NFF Chairman By Olugbenga Ige - June 29, 2018 NFF President Amaju Pinnick The Federation of International Football Association (FIFA) has said that no decision of any Nigerian court will stop it from recognising the leadership of Amaju Pinnick as chairman of the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF). FIFA’s letter came in response of to a letter written by Chris Giwa to FIFA, through his lawyers, Patrick ikwueto seeking to enforce various court orders he claimed to have in his favour in order for him to take over the leadership of the NFF. The letter reads, “we would like to stress that the clients you appear to represent already filed different appeals in relation to the elections of the Nigerian Football Federation (NFF) of 26 August 2014 with the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) in Lausanne, Switzerland, and that said appeals were either terminated and removed from the CAS roll for procedural reasons or dismissed by the CAS in its arbitrary award of 18 May 2015. “FIFA, therefore, recognizes the NFF executive committee under President Amaju Melvin Pinnick which was duly elected on 30 September 2014. Notwithstanding the above, we have taken note of the ruling of the Supreme Court of Nigeria dated 27 April, 2018 which ruled that the relevant matter is to be “remitted to the trial High Court‘ for expeditious hearing and determination on the merit”. “In this respect, we would like to remind you that according to art. 59 par. 2 and 3 of the FIFA Statutes “Recourse to ordinary courts of law is prohibited unless specifically provided for in the FIFA regugations” and disputes within a member association “shall be taken to an independent and duly constituted arbitration tribunal recognised under the rules of the association or confederation or t0 CAS,” FIFA said. According to FIFA, its disciplinary committee decided on 10 January 2017 to extend the five-year ban from taking part in any kind of football-related activity imposed by the NFF’s disciplinary committee on 12 May 2016 against the officials-Christopher Giwa, Muazu Suleyman, Yahaya Adama, Sani Fema and Johnson Effiong for breaches of the NFF statutes and the FIFA Code of Ethics to have worldwide effect. “Without prejudice to the above, we inform you that copies of this letter and of your correspondence have been brought to the attention of the NFF,” it said. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OGHENAOGIE(m): 12:41am On Jul 03, 2018 |
daveP:Oga giwa is dead as far as football is concerned in Nigeria..... He just wants to scatter things I know pinick is equal to the task 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 3:21am On Jul 03, 2018 |
daveP:This useless Giwa isn't even running his club well enough yet it's the NFF he wants to run?? Dude needs to Bleep off!! Pinnick has been great. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Triniti(m): 3:49am On Jul 03, 2018 |
daveP:Sometimes I feel like sending retired Shin Bet agents from Haifa to waste this giwa of a guy, this guy has been terrorizing our footie for far too long......and God decided to punish us with a disgrace of a sports minister. Pinnick go soon use fifa connection show them shege |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:38am On Jul 03, 2018 |
Bolowolowo: Another FIFA ban is on the way. This Chris Giwa is too desperate. He is not going there for the good of Nigerian Football but for personal gains. Very obvious. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by semid4lyfe(m): 6:43am On Jul 03, 2018 |
Chris Giwa was only able to resume at the NFF glass house because Amaju Pinnick and most members of the NFF are away in Russia. In fact, Amaju Pinnick will be the Match commissioner in the Sweden vs Switzerland match today. Amaju Pinnick no send the Sports Minister, he never has. When he returns from Russia, that's when the real drama will start. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:18am On Jul 03, 2018 |
This Chris Giwa just lit massive fire. All Pinnick has to do is call Infantino & co. to do the needful. No need for a big battle, unless Giwa is willing to risk dragging Nigerian football through the mud and I don't think Nigerians would easily stand for that. A ban should be enough for him to give in. Dalung and other higher ups would see the financial implications a ban has and will get him to quit. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:33am On Jul 03, 2018 |
edi287:His club was driven under, banned and stripped off all their points resulting in its players dispatched to other clubs. The biggest recipient was Plateau utd who later won the league. My brother, their case has more to it that meets the eye. Nigeria is a gangster paradise. It is just sad both parties are grandstanding with the soul of Nigerian football. I thought they have made peace and reached a compromise in the past. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 8:49am On Jul 03, 2018 |
Bolowolowo: Giwa has already been banned for four years by FIFA... Sport minister is the chief culprit They don't care about AFCON all they care about is FIFA World Cup cos of the juicy money involve. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:52am On Jul 03, 2018 |
goldfish80: When I make a contribution it is not based on assumption or emotive sentiment. In my small time in football particularly youth nobody is a project, just potential to waiting to be realised. Youth football is just indicative nit conclusive. In England 76% of players from the football league academies end up not playing professional football. This tells us even more youth football is only indicative. I will give three examples of recent players who went very high in youth football but are playing now playing non league football. John Cofie was bought at age 14 from Burnley by Manchester United for the sum of £1 million. He played alongside Pogba. By age 21 he had been to near 10 clubs in Europe. And ended up playing non league. Adam Morgan was hailed as the new Robbie Fowler hr went on pre- season tour with Liverpool. At a stage he was on £20k a week. Within three years of this peak level he is now playing non league. Daniel Tricket Smith bought by Liverpool from Crew for near £350k at age 16. He played for Liverpool U23 and England he was released in 2016 not even 2 years he is now playing non league. I have seen too many players hundreds over the years that promised much but delivered little. Opportunity is the most important thing and then what you do with it. Nwakali has had a lot of opportunity but he has done nothing with it. Opportunity upon Opportunity. We are no longer talking about youth football but professional first team senior football. What has he done You base your opinion on past glories not present continous. He has been in the 2nd tier of Dutch football, let's be honest it's a very weak league. He if he was exceptional should be the stand out player in that league. It doesn't matter the league you play or club if you are exceptional you will STAND OUT. So considering all these variables NWAKALI has done nothing. Playing a non competitive friendly with Athletico Madrid and scoring a goal is not evidence of anything. There are hundreds of Nigerian origin players playing non league who could do the same. Even those playing local league in Nigeria but will not get the opportunity. My deduction is not a emotive but objective experiential based. I know a few not a lot of vthe coaching staff some who were at Reading and Crystal Palace before coming to Arsenal. I will be honest he is not highly regarded that's just what they say in public. Is he more regarded than Chuba Akpom who is on the downward spiral. What they paid for him is chicken change means nothing. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:01am On Jul 03, 2018 |
forgiveness: Yes sir the man I give part of the credit for the player we have in Etebo. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:19am On Jul 03, 2018 |
komekn: You have to understand that the guy in question is just 19. I don't know how many 19year old midfielders who left their continent and aced it in a major European league. It takes years to train midfielders and defenders, Cesc Fabregas was the only guy who bucked the trend at 19 but that was an anormally and today he is paying for playing too much football very early. Even Xavi and Iniesta weren't starters at Barcelona till their mid 20's. Nwakali is doing very well as far as I'm concerned. The Athletico game is nothing to write off because even the MLS, Mexican and Japanese teams gauge the strength of their teams and players with pre-season games against top European teams. The young man was very immaculate with his play and crowed his performance by beating European best keeper (in my opinion) Oblak from a distance. I don't know how many times you have even seen this in the champions league. This is not what you take with a pinch of salt. There's ability there in abundance which needs the right environment to unlock. Finally, our climes with England differs. England can afford to offload talents in their numbers every year, I know about the cut throat world of English academies but they have the culture and structure to replace those lost talents with other ones the following year because their clubs run multi million pounds academies. It's almost like a revolving door. In Nigeria we usually rely on youth internationals to make the step up, that is the culture here. see Kanu - Yobo-Mikel.... I see nothing wrong in having same thought with Nwakali 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:26am On Jul 03, 2018 |
goldfish80: Tbh I felt sorry for Giwa because he actually won an election but was not allowed to contest when Pinnick won the election. His club was banished to another ground for fan violence but he said it was political and refused to go. The rule book says you get relegated after missing 3 matches in a row and just like magic one of the best paying club's in Nigeria were relegated. Giwa's problem is that he is too impulsive, instead of petitioning CAS immediately he ran straight to court in his home town. The whole thing would have been dead if Dalung and the court had respected themselves. This situation makes the Nigerian legal system look like a joke. Btw I think it was Enyimba that won the league that year but Giwa fc was not on top of the log. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:59am On Jul 03, 2018 |
goldfish80: Yobo left Nigeria as a teenager to Belguim. Standard Liege didn't give him enough game time went to Tenerife almost a whole season without playing. Comes back goes to Marseille actually played on the wing. He was now making an impression in the top flight if both the Belgium league and French leagues. He was not anonymous. It was on the back of those performances that he came into the senior team and IMMEDIATELY CLAIMED permanent position in 2002 Afcon. He came to Everton and the rest as they say is history. He did not leverage his career on past youthful glories. Although he was not impressive in the U20. You cannot compare Mikel and Yobo to Nwakali. These guys were impressive for thier clubs Mikel was on the radar of top clubs. Kanu was killing it with Kluivert in Ajax at a time when Ajax was at the pinnacle of European football. There is NO COMPARISON WHATSOEVER with Kanu, Mikel and Yobo. Nwakali has been in European football for two years, he is 20 years old and had done NOTHING. And on the basis of that NOTHING he should be in the SE. Football is not about emotive sentiment and thought. It's cold and unforgiving and about top performances not past youthful glories. Finally Kelechi is not in Nigeria he is in Europe. The unit for the measurement of quality has changed it is no longer Nigerian but European. We are competing on the world stage now, not the local scene in Nigeria. If he can not measure up to the standard here he is simply not good enough. That's the harsh reality. When I see him play currently ( not U17 Eaglets) I see nothing outstanding, No sentiment. Finally and Finally, I think he has had it too easy and he and you seem too think so as well, because he is a NIGERIAN PROJECT he will always have a straight first class ticket to the SE. Would you call that a level playing field a reflection of fairness, equitable and balanced approach to national team selection. I know even you will agree with me. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 10:12am On Jul 03, 2018 |
goldfish80:Bleep the guy abeg. The fool will undo all the progress we have made off the pitch for selfish gains. He knows we'll get a Fifa ban. What is the point in pushing on with this nonsense?? |
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