Patented:
Mind Boggling in the sense that, its shocking that people's thinking can be that shallow. Have u watched the full video?

abiodunalasa:

No I haven't seen the full video. Pls help me with it.

lionel4power:

As usual... We Africans will just have to sit back relax and enjoy the show.

Patented:
https://www.facebook.com/thedailyshow/videos/10156674200661800/

lionel4power:
theres a point in this...

Looking at Nigeria today what can we lay a hand on as our bragging rights ?

Apart from large population. What else?


I heard recently that we have overtaken India as one of the poorest country in the world.

abiodunalasa:


"We need space force. Its gonna be a waste of money. But its gonna be cool. So we need a space force".
this is the dumbest shiit I have heard in a long time.

Covert1:


[s]No no not exactly but I comprehend your point. There are countries that never forget our help. I'll give a brief treatise just for you:

We saw the height of that during the tussle for the AU chair role and the Ivory Coast debacle during the Jacob Zuma presidency in SA who came onboard and felt his country is better placed to play the role of Africa's strongman discarding the intellectual foreign policy approach of his predecessor Thabo Mbeki in engaging Nigeria on matters of the continent. To do that he went beyond his country's SADC sphere of political influence to divide generally consensus support for the Nigerian position on many continental issues at great expense. This led to many firsts of some AU members states voting for SA' candidate instead of Jean Ping of Gabon. Jacob Zuma had just made a very bad mistake that would cost his nation.

Of course the retaliation was swift from Abuja which always has measures in the bag to keep the balance of it's regional hegemony. Until then Abuja was willing to wait and not displace SA from a place in the sun at least for matters of strategic perception and bragging rights. President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan was miffed and immediately approved the rebasing of the national economy against all lobby effectively knocking South Africa forever into political oblivion and ending it's bragging rights on the world stage. It was a huge loss of prestige.

Historically however and to this day except for the position of AU chair for which it influences a consensus position which it believes should be held by smaller states, Nigeria has a deliberate foreign policy goal of promoting harmony in the AU and not appear a bully. It does not impose it's will on the choices of AU member states who even votes against Nigerian nationals for other positions at the African Union in Addis-Ababa.

Nigeria is the most influential African country. There is no other African nation with more influence on other African countries on a bilateral basis than Nigeria. When Nigeria means business Africa takes it's word seriously knowing it could muster the forces in the region to back it up with action either by economic measures or the use of force if necessary. [/s]

lionel4power:

I heard recently that we have overtaken I....... as one of the poorest country in the world.

abiodunalasa:


Then I hope you will agree with me when I say White people and Black people are two parallel lines.

In Countries like US, France, Canada, Japan, China etc child birth is about 2 births in 8 women... While in poor Africa child birth is about 8 births per 4 women.

In other words, the only thing African countries are contributing to the World is Dick, Pvssy and Sperm!

abiodunalasa:


about 1billion people !

abiodunalasa:

Lol
Gone are these days you talking about bro.

This present generation of African leaders don't give a flying fvck about Nigeria.
We lost the respect long time a go.

All they do now is come here and massage our ego so to collect whatever they want to collect... That's all.

But maybe we still call the shots at ECOWAS level. But on AU level... no no no!

I mean what respect do you expect when giant like Nigeria and tiny thing like Namibia are both going to the BiG powers with beggars bowl ?

Covert1:



N...... gets the UNSC seat whenever it chooses to

nemesis8u:

Covert1:


...non-permanent UNSC seat which is rotational

Covert1:


...non-permanent UNSC seat which is rotational

nemesis8u:


Ok

patches689:




lol, he is misrepresenting the facts (as usual)

First, South Africa has sat in that seat in 2007, 2011 and now 2018. Thats three separate terms in a decade. The seat "rotates", because it is non permanent.

(But!) Secondly, you have to be voted into the seat. The seat does not "rotate" on a set order, you still need to be able to get votes from other countries to beat off contenders.

Third, winning the vote (in the African bloc) is impossible without an AU endorsement - RSA has been endorsed every time and every time it was the only African nation endorsed.

These set of facts completely debunks everything Covert1, a.k.a Augustine, has said.

As for the general discussion. There is no singular African power, only regional players. RSA and a number of the North African states play a bigger role than most on the global stage but that is because of a myriad of reasons, generally financial and economic. This global prominence, however, does not translate into continental clout.

patches689:



"Jacob Zuma made a bad mistake that would cost his nation"
*Vlad and Jacob enjoy vodka at BRICS summit*

"effectively knocking South Africa forever into political oblivion and ending its bragging rights on the world stage"
*Zuma enjoys Sushi with Shinzo Abe at G20*

"Nigeria is the most influential African country. There is no other African nation with more influence..."
*RSA UN Ambassador picks a new chair for his seat on the UN Security Council*

"When Nigeria means business Africa takes it's word seriously knowing it could muster the forces in the region to back it up"
*SANDF Officers do "rock-paper-scissors" to see who will command either MONUSCO or the UN FIB*

Henry240:
Where it all began.

Nigerian army Igirigi APC,from back when we still did military parades in Abuja.

Covert1:


Nah! Normally I made the point and don't need to do this but again just for you and not those with benign thoughts and making incorrect sentences for narrow agendas like "Nigeria is now the poorest country in the world (actually it is a report from the period of the recession showing the number of the poor in Nigeria went up)", such is how low some will go to appear relevant just like their holding at every straw of visibility however irrelevant and clutching at any insignificant role of the UN in the DRC that the world has moved on from—A thing Nigeria has done and dusted since the 60's and is still doing if it chooses—that is.

Nigeria gets the non-permanent UNSC seat whenever it chooses to. It merely allows small countries in West Africa a chance too at the table. You don't need make noise when you are a giant because you are heard when you speak. Nigeria actually sometimes sheiks itself of these responsibilities because when the chips are down it ends up carrying the cross. We saw it in Liberia and Sierra Leone and one reason we refrained from getting bogged down in Somalia and elsewhere.

As regards your mention, Nigeria does not go beggar-thy-neighbor for aid. Never has and never will. Source for foreign or local funding for specific development projects: Yes! That depending on the government of the day but Nigeria receives no aid package to support it's budget as it's common with many small countries not only in Africa but around the world.

A large population is a kings glory from time immemorial. While that has it's advantages it also has it's disadvantages. The positive is if you have the right leadership to galvanize it into economic prosperity as we see in China today or even the United States after the depression. Nigeria has not yet had that blessing of good leadership to reflect it's true potential albeit it has had the leadership that has managed to keep it's multi-national entities as one country and in that size and natural resources both human and material that comes with it lies it's humongous might compared with contemporary African states.

You have to understand the geo-political balance of power in relations between states which is reflected in the level of honor or prestige they accord each other in diplomacy. Your mention would insinuate Nigeria is a declining power but that's not the case, in fact it is the opposite. Despite it's current travails a democratic Nigeria today has more diplomatic, economic and military clout than at any time in it's history save for the first and second republics of Tafawa Belewa and Shehu Shagari.

Very few countries have their presidents honored with a reception at the airport by a host head of state. That is an honor reserved for truly big powers like the United States etc. In many cases lower level officials play that protocol depending on bilateral relations. In Africa and elsewhere Nigerian Presidents are accorded that privilege by kings and heads of state in acknowledgement of it's weight as a regional power. That hasn't changed and won't change except Nigeria ceases to exist as one country. This is one indicator that you matter.

lionel4power:

I remember first seeing that picture on Beegeagles blog. Who would have be thought we'll ever have a plethora of Nigerian-made military vehicles.

IPV
Armoured Hilux
Proforce Ara MRAP
Proforce light Armoured Vehicle
Igirigi

Covert1:


Nah! Normally I made the point and don't need to do this but again just for you and not those with benign thoughts and making incorrect sentences for narrow agendas like "Nigeria is now the poorest country in the world (actually it is a report from the period of the recession showing the number of the poor in Nigeria went up)", such is how low some will go to appear relevant just like their holding at every straw of visibility however irrelevant and clutching at any insignificant role of the UN in the DRC that the world has moved on from—A thing Nigeria has done and dusted since the 60's and is still doing if it chooses—that is.

Nigeria gets the non-permanent UNSC seat whenever it chooses to. It merely allows small countries in West Africa a chance too at the table. You don't need make noise when you are a giant because you are heard when you speak. Nigeria actually sometimes sheiks itself of these responsibilities because when the chips are down it ends up carrying the cross. We saw it in Liberia and Sierra Leone and one reason we refrained from getting bogged down in Somalia and elsewhere.

As regards your mention, Nigeria does not go beggar-thy-neighbor for aid. Never has and never will. Source for foreign or local funding for specific development projects: Yes! That depending on the government of the day but Nigeria receives no aid package to support it's budget as it's common with many small countries not only in Africa but around the world.

A large population is a kings glory from time immemorial. While that has it's advantages it also has it's disadvantages. The positive is if you have the right leadership to galvanize it into economic prosperity as we see in China today or even the United States after the depression. Nigeria has not yet had that blessing of good leadership to reflect it's true potential albeit it has had the leadership that has managed to keep it's multi-national entities as one country and in that size and natural resources both human and material that comes with it lies it's humongous might compared with contemporary African states.

You have to understand the geo-political balance of power in relations between states which is reflected in the level of honor or prestige they accord each other in diplomacy. Your mention would insinuate Nigeria is a declining power but that's not the case, in fact it is the opposite. Despite it's current travails a democratic Nigeria today has more diplomatic, economic and military clout than at any time in it's history save for the first and second republics of Tafawa Belewa and Shehu Shagari.

Very few countries have their presidents honored with a reception at the airport by a host head of state. That is an honor reserved for truly big powers like the United States etc. In many cases lower level officials play that protocol depending on bilateral relations. In Africa and elsewhere Nigerian Presidents are accorded that privilege by kings and heads of state in acknowledgement of it's weight as a regional power. That hasn't changed and won't change except Nigeria ceases to exist as one country. This is one indicator that you matter.

lionel4power:

I remember first seeing that picture on Beegeagles blog. Who would have be thought we'll ever have a plethora of Nigerian-made military vehicles.

IPV
Armoured Hilux
Proforce Ara MRAP
Proforce light Armoured Vehicle
Igirigi

abiodunalasa:


Armoured Hilux ?
You got pictures bro?