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Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by Immorttal: 4:53pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
Just over a week ago, Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte said that God was stupid — “This son of a bitch is… really stupid” — because the Book of Genesis made no sense. It’s not that he was wrong about Genesis, but his name-calling of a God that he personally believes in was very strange to hear, in part because he’s a world leader (even if he’s also a mass-murdering dictator). It wasn’t even the first time he’s made jaw-dropping remarks about religion. He once said Pope Francis was the “son of a LovePeddler” and claimed men could get away with having mistresses by saying they were atheists (implying that we have no moral compass). His latest outburst came Friday night during a celebration of science and technology. He told the crowd that if anyone could prove to him that God existed, he’d resign immediately. “And if there is anyone of you there, the noisy ones, who would say that you have been to heaven, and talked to God and saw him personally and that he exists, the God that is yours. And if that is true, I will step down from the Presidency tonight,” he said Friday in a speech at the National Science and Technology Week Celebration in Mindanao at the SMX Convention Center in Lanang, Davao City. Once again, he’s not wrong to criticize the people who claim to have visited Heaven, then come back to tell everyone about it. Those people are delusional. But it’s hard to accept a lesson on logic and reason from a man who orders the executions of his own people and personally bragged about murdering someone. It’s also weird to hear Duterte challenge God’s existence when he said in 2016 that he stopped swearing because God allegedly told him to. Does he believe in God or not? His theology makes no sense — but that’s also the point. He uses God like so many American politicians: To convince people he’s just like them. It’s a tool to acquire power, not a sincerely held standard of morality. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2018/07/07/philippines-president-if-anyone-can-prove-god-exists-ill-resign-tonight/ 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by AJOBI77(m): 5:00pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
Mr Man, you go soon collect. You don dey price since |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by ojun50(m): 5:05pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
I pity dis one 1 Like |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by GavelSlam: 5:15pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
Correct man. People insulting him forget if they were born in India they would have been worshipping various gods. If they were born in 1708 they would have been worshipping Ogun or Sango. So which is the correct God? 16 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by Immorttal: 5:17pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
The man is right afterall but you can't be a president for an overly religious country and be spouting rubbish on national TV. People are not ready for some things. He failed on this one. 1 Like |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by GavelSlam: 5:27pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
Immorttal: Agreed but I think gradually the Filipinos are losing their religion. 2 Likes |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by Butterflyleo: 5:29pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
Such annoyance and anger over a God he already says does not exist. ![]() He should make up his mind already! Does God exist or not? If God does not exist, why get angry at him after all he does not exist in the first place for anything like anger to be directed at him to begin with. So he is also an atheist leader who is a mass murderer. ![]() Atheism and intolerance sha. Always murdering those who do not buy into their ideology. ![]() They are all seemingly the same. Full of hatred, bile, bitterness, anger, quarrelsome, and the likes. Well the fruit never does fall far from its tree. Go figure. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by Immorttal: 5:36pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:. 13 Likes 3 Shares
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Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by Butterflyleo: 5:41pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
Immorttal: Are you embarrassed by the article and the fact that he is clearly called a mass murdering dictator despite being an atheist? Are you embarrassed that he is directing anger on a God he already says does not exist so much so that he lost control and went on such an important event as the[b]NationalScience and Technology Week Celebration in Mindanao to make such an utterance of hatred and spite on national television? Are you embarrassed that the article says he is a man who orders the executions of his own people and personally bragged about murdering someone? Aren't atheists meant to be morally sound and lovers of humanity? If you aren't, you should be. ![]() He is trying to enter into a boxing ring with someone he says does not exist. He just might go insane soon. If anyone wishes to quote me, just know that I would not dignify you with a response. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by dalaman: 5:49pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: Mr man can't you live without telling lies? He is not an atheist you liar. Just recently he said God told him to stop cursing. President Rodrigo Duterte of the Philippines, who told President Obama in October he “can go to hell” and has unleashed epithets at the pope, said on Thursday that the voice of God told him to stop cursing. He promised to obey the word of the Almighty. https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/29/world/asia/president-duterte-says-god-told-him-to-swear-off-the-curse-words.html 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by dalaman: 5:51pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: Shut up liar, he's not an atheist. Show us where he ever claimed to be an atheist? 12 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by Immorttal: 5:53pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:i hope you know that not everyone who don't believe in your god is an atheist, by the way why are you running away from mentions. ![]() ![]() 12 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by Butterflyleo: 5:55pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
For those who do not understand the article and what it was trying to say let me explain. The article infers that the Philippines President is being deceptive. One minute he mentions God and the next he challenges his existence just as he did in the OPs article. One minute he says "God told him" the very next he denies the existence of the same God. That was why the end of the article concludes thus and I quote His theology makes no sense — but that’s also the point. He uses God like so many American politicians: To convince people he’s just like them. It’s a tool to acquire power, not a sincerely held standard of morality He knows the religious position of the majority of Philippinos so is simply deceiving them to get what he craves for...POWER! In his core, he is an atheist. Addendum: Its very hard for someone to suppress his true personality for long. He couldn't suppress his detest for God for long. He must be in some real torment. That is the summary of the OPs post. I am sure even the OP could not read between the lines of the article 4 Likes |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by amaniro: 5:56pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
let him come I can proof in Nigeria with this hardship, we for no dey alive ESE oluwa |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by dalaman: 6:09pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: People like you that live on lies will twist and turn everything just so that you can keep spreading lies because without it you can't operate. You are a liar! Here is what the man said : “And if there is anyone of you there, the noisy ones, who would say that you have been to heaven, and talked to God and saw him personally and that he exists, the God that is yours. And if that is true, I will step down from the Presidency tonight,” He was only challenging those that claim to have been to heaven and talked to God personally to prove their assertions and prove that the God they are talking about is theirs. He could still believe in a God that is different from theirs. God after all is an idea and he could have his own God idea that is different from the idea of those that claim heaven. Only you keep lying that he's an atheist when he has stated like 3 times that he believes in God even when he called God stupid he still said he believes in God( he said he has his personal spiritual beliefs). He believes in his own different God from the Christian God. The Christian God isn't the only God idea that exist. 7 Likes |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by Butterflyleo: 6:17pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
Atheism, Deism or Agnosticism are all connected with one goal..... They are all against organised religion ++++++++ Richard Dawkins. Atheists believe that they and deists are more alike than deists are to theists likewise agnostics. Even if he was a deist he would fit quite well into an atheists worldview because he does not believe in a Personal God aka Personal deity while atheists do not believe in any deity at all. He once said he was raped by a roman catholic priest as a young lad and his hatred for God and religion began from there. No wonder he does not believe in "a loving God" as he confessed. He could be a deist but what does it matter, deists and atheists are chums. Enjoy your weekend guys. I am soooooooo outta here. ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by dalaman: 6:27pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: Mr lie lie. After caught lying that he's an atheist you are now forcefully trying to equate atheism to deism. Who does that? You are shameless. The guy is NOT an atheist. Why should he believes in a loving God that could not protect him when he was raped? Will you allow your child whom you love to be raped under your watch? Loving God indeed. He has his beliefs. Even when he called God stupid and said he will not accept the Christian religion because he finds the idea of original sin foolish, he still went ahead to state that he has HIS OWN SPIRITUAL BELIEFS. He just isn't a Christian and doesn't believe in the Christian God. He is NOT an atheist only liars like you claim that deism is the same as atheism. Deist believe in God while atheist do not. Keep singing lies to yourself because that's what you operate on. 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by felixomor: 6:33pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: The guy is obviously an atheist 1 Like |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by hakeem4(m): 6:36pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
The truth is god actually exist. But exists only in people’s mind. That means he’s a human imagination. God is what philosophy calls the god of the gaps , it’s the boundary between the known and the unknown. 8 Likes |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by Butterflyleo: 6:42pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
felixomor: Either that or he is a Deist. For me though both are two sides of the same coin. Deist nor Atheist has any belief that an interventionist God is active in the world at the present time, answers prayers, sits in judgment, or runs any heaven or hell. Both reject theistic beliefs that include divine revelation, divine intervention, miracles, answered prayers, inerrant holy books, the anthropomorphization of a deity, details of an afterlife, a specific moral code, etc. Neither deism nor atheism are religions. They are philosophical positions. Deism is not a religion, as it rejects the very things that make up a religion. I could easily call Deism and Atheism twins but with different genders ![]() How you been bro? 2 Likes |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by Holufemi(m): 6:51pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
those that worship sango and ogun then still believe there is OLODUMARE (Almighty God) that is bigger than the sango and ogun they worship. |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by felixomor: 7:10pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:No wonder the guy has been slaughtering his people any how in the name of fighting drug trafficking Anyway, have Been good. Thank God Hope u r good too 2 Likes |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by Butterflyleo: 7:21pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
felixomor: Couldn't be better my man. Yes and he even brags about the murders too. Such a despicable soul but God still loves him and wants him to come back just like the prodigal son. Holding on to hate and anger does not make anyone a strong person. It rather exposes their weakness. Angry people have the sense of a pinhead. No wonder he went to such a monumental national event and in front of millions of his nationals and probablt foreigners and made such a silly statement out of anger as found in the OP. Rejection of God or a personal God surely brings out the worst in people sha. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by dalaman: 7:53pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: Is he any different from your "loving God" and the man? Remember that your own God went about killing humans and soaking his garment with their blood and boasting that he did it alone, he also boasted of spilling their blood on the ground after making them drunk. Isa 63:1 - Who is this coming from Edom, from Bozrah, with his garments stained crimson? Who is this, robed in splendor, striding forward in the greatness of his strength? “It is I, proclaiming victory, mighty to save.” Isa 63:2 - Why are your garments red, like those of one treading the winepress? Isa 63:3 - “I have trodden the winepress alone; from the nations no one was with me. I trampled them in my anger and trod them down in my wrath; their blood spattered my garments, and I stained all my clothing. Isa 63:4 - It was for me the day of vengeance; the year for me to redeem had come. Isa 63:5 - I looked, but there was no one to help, I was appalled that no one gave support; so my own arm achieved salvation for me, and my own wrath sustained me. Isa 63:6 - I trampled the nations in my anger; in my wrath I made them drunk and poured their blood on the ground Maybe the president learned it from your God. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by MuttleyLaff: 7:53pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
Immorttal:At least he is consistent in calling anyone that take doesnt take to his fancy "son of a hoe" In 2015, he called the Pope the "son of a LovePeddler", in 2016 he called Obama the "son of a hoe", but now in 2018, he seemed to have upgraded his horizon to Higher Power and changed his favorite "son of a hoe" vocabulary to "son of a bitch" |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by hopefulLandlord: 8:01pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
Looks like he's not resigning anytime soon then 4 Likes |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by dalaman: 8:18pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord:Why should he resign? |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by Nobody: 8:36pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
GavelSlam: Nigeria needs an iron fist like Rodrigo Duterte as a ruler to progress & move forward rather than moving in circles with the blessings of Yahweh, Jesus & Allah. ![]() ![]() ![]() 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by Immorttal: 8:45pm On Jul 07, 2018 |
dalaman:you didn't get the sacarsm ![]() |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by Holyede: 12:36pm On Jul 11, 2018 |
GavelSlam:God will judge those who never heard the Gospel through actions, their conscience, He is a just God |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by Holyede: 12:42pm On Jul 11, 2018 |
dalaman:his utterrances prove that he is a psychopathic atheist |
Re: Philippines President: If Anyone Can Prove God Exists, I’ll Resign Tonight by Holyede: 12:47pm On Jul 11, 2018 |
dalaman:sometimes it pays to shut up |
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