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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by Genesils(m): 10:22am On Jul 08, 2018
flyca:
When I was writing my Masters Thesis (abroad), my supervisor told me that any reference I'm quoting older than 10 years should be scrapped that the technology should be outdated by now.

Last week, I was browsing online when I saw an article published by my umdergraduate university (Nigeria) lecturer. His references dated as far back as 1970's. shocked For an Engineering course o.

Wait lemme look for the picture. Lol

Modified: Oh, sorry it's 1963! For a paper written in 2014 cheesy


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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by khalhokage(m): 10:23am On Jul 08, 2018
dreamwords:

The electricity u are using to charge our phone
When was it discovered. Was it less than ten years ago? Na wa u oo


When electricity was discovered isn't important except for history students, engineering students should be more concerned with newer, better, safer and more efficient ways to generate that electricity.

An outdated curriculum holds the entire engineering community of the nation back.

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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by Akanimoh08: 10:29am On Jul 08, 2018
GrandPa01:
Some stakeholders have said Nigerian youths prefer to study abroad due to the decay in the nation’s education system . They spoke during a programme in Lagos on how Nigerians could study abroad with ease organised by the University of Sunderland ,
United Kingdom . The programme was held simultaneously in Lagos , Benin and Port Harcourt .


A Nigerian lecturer at the University of Sunderland , Larry Jones lamented that incessant strike in the nation ’ s tertiary institution had resulted in students spending up to six years for a course that should run for four years.


“ One of the reasons many youths want to study abroad is the quality they get . University of Sunderland understands the importance of giving the best . Our system back home in those days is measured with that of the UK , what has happened ? Over time, there is decay ; there is a system that is
not working for the young people . Something is wrong with our education system ; we should change the way we do things . The way forward is for those coming to study abroad to go back and change things , ” he said .


Deputy Director , International , University of Sunderland , UK , Ian Moody said the school had been having students from Nigeria for almost a decade now , and the exhibition is to help students gain
admission into the institution which had been in existence for over 100 years.


“ We have really found out that Nigerian students are of high quality and standard . They add more value to the curriculum of the university . We know it has been difficult getting Nigerian students into UK in terms of visas and fees . And what we want to do is
give back to Nigerians and Africans in terms of offering scholarships . ”


source: https://m.guardian.ng/news/lecturer-explains-why-nigerian-youths-prefer-studying-abroad/

I did part of my medical study in South African and when I returned back to Nigeria, I was hit with 1 week of depression.
The health care system in South Africa is far above that which I have seen in Nigeria. I was disappointed with this country.

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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by dreamwords: 10:35am On Jul 08, 2018
khalhokage:



When electricity was discovered isn't important except for history students, engineering students should be more concerned with newer, better, safer and more efficient ways to generate that electricity.

An outdated curriculum holds the entire engineering community of the nation back.
Flyca ///
What im trying to tell u that olden days engineering/technological laws still holds and can be quoted . unless Nullified ones .oh yes I'm an engineering
student,,
F=ma , u can quote that anytime and it remains valid and the law is more than ten years old
Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by khalhokage(m): 10:51am On Jul 08, 2018
dreamwords:

Flyca ///
What im trying to tell u that olden days engineering/technological laws still holds and can be quoted . unless Nullified ones .oh yes I'm an engineering
student,,
F=ma , u can quote that anytime and it remains valid and the law is more than ten years old

It's not about the laws, they don't change unless new discoveries are made.

It's about the technology and method and those change constantly, it'll be like someone teaching you how to operate a computer today using Windows ME.

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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by wickyyolo: 11:09am On Jul 08, 2018
magicminister:
I am your typical 2.2. graduate from a federal University in Nigeria. I was frustrated and treated so badly by the people that should've mentored me and encouraged me to grow. Fortunately, i was able to pursue a masters degree abroad and made a 3.9/4.0 gpa.

That was when i realized that i am actually not a dullard but the Nigerian public education system failed me... Even if you want to go to school in Naija, i strongly strongly advise you go to reputable private school like covenant. They might have stringent rules but at least you are sure that your effort would not be thwarted by a lecturer because he saw you eating isi-ewu at a bar or for some other stupid reasons!!



Graduating with a 2.2 automatically denied me many opportunities. I was pretty much ineligible for employment in most Nigerian companies, my dream of going to an IVY league school was out the window.
Public schools in Naija isn’t worth it!!! You’re better off with a 2.1 from a mushroom private school than a 2.2 from a public school!!!

No lies. ASUU is holding us back.
Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by Jokerman(m): 11:28am On Jul 08, 2018
flyca:

So if you were asked to optimise the use of computer keyboard now, you'll start with typewriter? undecided

You are a obviously a literature student. Face your front. Lol.

Lol... kikikiki... grin

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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by Jokerman(m): 11:33am On Jul 08, 2018
khalhokage:



When electricity was discovered isn't important except for history students, engineering students should be more concerned with newer, better, safer and more efficient ways to generate that electricity.

An outdated curriculum holds the entire engineering community of the nation back.

People who didn't study engineering can't understand... can't blame though, wen a TV repairer is called an engineer. ..

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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by dreamwords: 11:47am On Jul 08, 2018
khalhokage:


It's not about the laws, they don't change unless new discoveries are made.

It's about the technology and method and those change constantly, it'll be like someone teaching you how to operate a computer today using Windows ME.
Most Old technologies are still in use and valid
Lead acid battery technology Is still still in use and valid..
Internal combustion engines are still trend in
U r wrong to conclude that all old technologies are obsolete
Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by Meel: 11:51am On Jul 08, 2018
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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by khalhokage(m): 11:56am On Jul 08, 2018
dreamwords:

Most Old technologies are still in use and valid
Lead acid battery technology Is still still in use and valid..
Internal combustion engines are still trend in
Don't conclude that all old technologies are obsolete

This argument smh.

Are the Lead acid batteries and internal combustion engines of the past comparable to what we have today?

If i taught you how to build an engine using technology and method of the 80s and then told you to build an engine that can compete with the efficiency and performance of an engine made last year how well do you think you'll do?

Or if i asked you to make a smartphone battery in the size and capacity of today's battery but only with knowledge of it was done 20 years ago will you be successful?

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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by Nobody: 12:31pm On Jul 08, 2018
It could depend on your thesis.

Some will require references beyond 10 years, other's, it will be plain silly

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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by Truth234(m): 12:36pm On Jul 08, 2018
dreamwords:

Flyca ///
What im trying to tell u that olden days engineering/technological laws still holds and can be quoted . unless Nullified ones .oh yes I'm an engineering
student,,
F=ma , u can quote that anytime and it remains valid and the law is more than ten years old

Those are laws that rarely changed. You can quote them using recent works done on identified gap. Even the Power System Stability,1964, referenced by the lecturer has recent edition published on March 1995. Meaning, the author has identified certain areas that no longer hold values or can be improved.

The lecturer was just lazy.

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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by dreamwords: 12:46pm On Jul 08, 2018
khalhokage:


This argument smh.

Are the Lead acid batteries and internal combustion engines of the past comparable to what we have today?

If i taught you how to build an engine using technology and method of the 80s and then told you to build an engine that can compete with the efficiency and performance of an engine made last year how well do you think you'll do?

Or if i asked you to make a smartphone battery in the size and capacity of today's battery but only with knowledge of it was done 20 years ago will you be successful?
The same way u asked ur Nigerian university to limit their quote to 20 years and they werent successful
Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by khalhokage(m): 12:48pm On Jul 08, 2018
dreamwords:

The same way u asker ur Nigerian university to limit their quote to 20 years and they werent successful

At this point i don't think we're talking about the same thing, so I'm done.

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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by QuotaSystem: 12:57pm On Jul 08, 2018

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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by Diamond294(f): 1:29pm On Jul 08, 2018
flyca:
When I was writing my Masters Thesis (abroad), my supervisor told me that any reference I'm quoting older than 10 years should be scrapped that the technology should be outdated by now.

Last week, I was browsing online when I saw an article published by my undergraduate university (Nigeria) lecturer. His references dated as far back as 1970's. shocked For an Engineering course o.

Wait lemme look for the picture. Lol

Modified: Oh, sorry it's 1963! For a paper written in 2014 cheesy
That's 51 years back. Damn! It was while writing my undergraduate thesis I got to know too. But you wicked small sha. Some of our lecturers don't even know it's wrong to use outdated references.

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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by OGHENAOGIE(m): 3:16pm On Jul 08, 2018
khalhokage:


Please be honest, the Nigerian public school system is horrible, outdated curriculums, sadistic underqualified and largely corrupt lecturers, overcrowded lecture halls, lack of infrastructure, and generally a system that seems purpose built to frustrate students.
leave am defending nonsense
Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by Nobody: 3:22pm On Jul 08, 2018
It shall never be well with Nigerian public uni lectuers. Amen!

Take your kids to private uni, a mushroom one is better than the so called UI or OAU. Thank me later. If you can not afford abroad uni.

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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by Vectormike(m): 3:56pm On Jul 08, 2018
dreamwords:

The electricity u are using to charge our phone
When was it discovered. Was it less than ten years ago? Na wa u oo

The same telephone your father used then, is it the same phone you're using now?

What are you saying my guy?

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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by Vectormike(m): 3:57pm On Jul 08, 2018
flyca:

So if you were asked to optimise the use of computer keyboard now, you'll start with typewriter? undecided

You are a obviously a literature student. Face your front. Lol.

grin grin grin

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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 5:20pm On Jul 08, 2018
Even most Nigerian lecturers send their kids to private universities or schools in abroad. They don't trust the system. I became tired of our educational system while I was in 300L. I attended most classes because of 75% attendance.
I once challenged one oft my lecturers that what he is teaching us is obsolete, He replied; "My brother don't blame me, blame the school curriculum". When I was in my final, I stopped stressing myself for course works since I was already on 2.1.

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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by Buffalowings3(m): 5:44pm On Jul 08, 2018
dreamwords:

The electricity u are using to charge our phone
When was it discovered. Was it less than ten years ago? Na wa u oo

Will you keep qwayet undecided undecided undecided
Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by Buffalowings3(m): 5:47pm On Jul 08, 2018
QuotaSystem:


grin

Lol don't be surprised at his mentality.

Most Nigerian public school graduates were not trained to research, but copy, paste and pass.

Throughout my first degree in Nigeria, I swear I never heard any of my lecturers mention the concept of critical analysis in research/studies.

However upon arrival for my 2nd Bachelors in England, it was made clear from day 1 that lack of critical analysis (which forces you to research) in any essay/presentation etc. meant I shouldn't expect any grade higher than a D. Plagiarism is an automatic F except you win your appeal. Referencing Wikipedia is also forbidden and ridiculed obviously because it's editable by anyone, yet you'll see people boldly trying to back up their arguments with Wikipedia references on nairaland cheesy


For my masters dissertation, my supervisor gave me the freedom and encouraged me to innovate and develop my own framework for analysing my collected data (there wasn't an existing framework to analyse CSR data collected from social media) and graciously allowed me to reference myself (sometimes meeting via Skype while in my underwear grin). I also used to think PowerPoint was the beginning and end of presentation software until our tutors introduced us to the wonders of Prezi, which impresses ANY audience if well deployed.

So how will more efficient and effective forms of generating and exploiting electricity be discovered when lecturers are quoting and basing their work on knowledge from the prehistoric era

Our educational system seriously and desperately needs an overhaul.

Oga stop there.
Wikipedia is a good source.
You just have to use those references at the bottom page.
Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by obstead200(m): 6:33pm On Jul 08, 2018
flyca:
When I was writing my Masters Thesis (abroad), my supervisor told me that any reference I'm quoting older than 10 years should be scrapped that the technology should be outdated by now.

Last week, I was browsing online when I saw an article published by my undergraduate university (Nigeria) lecturer. His references dated as far back as 1970's. shocked For an Engineering course o.

Wait lemme look for the picture. Lol

Modified: Oh, sorry it's 1963! For a paper written in 2014 cheesy
Not all old theories that have become invalid.
Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by sweetilicious(f): 8:52pm On Jul 08, 2018
iammo:
And Nigerian youths perform better abroad, even when you switch a student from public university to a private well equipped university they end up performing excellent. It's almost as if public universities always want to prove a point by frustrating students
Exactly

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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by sweetilicious(f): 8:54pm On Jul 08, 2018
iammo:

From my experience having attended both public and private universities, public universities need a good quality control department to see to the standard of all processes of the university, from the frustrating coarse registration to medicals to bad timing of lectures to exessive crowding of classes, to lecturers lack of strong monitoring in a private school for instance this same lecturers from public university are very well behaved, the ones labeled sadist become friendly once they are in the private uni. My elder sister graduated in a naija uni accountancy with an average result, she enrolled for law in a brithish university and came up as the best graduating student of her class even with two wonderful kids to take care of and a side hustle
You see

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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by QuotaSystem: 10:04pm On Jul 08, 2018
Buffalowings3:


Oga stop there.
Wikipedia is a good source.
You just have to use those references at the bottom page.

The fact that its editable defeats that argument, you would definitely stumble on those generic references regardless in the course of your literature review.

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Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by NinaJoy(f): 10:55pm On Jul 08, 2018
flyca:
When I was writing my Masters Thesis (abroad), my supervisor told me that any reference I'm quoting older than 10 years should be scrapped that the technology should be outdated by now.

Last week, I was browsing online when I saw an article published by my undergraduate university (Nigeria) lecturer. His references dated as far back as 1970's. shocked For an Engineering course o.

Wait lemme look for the picture. Lol

Modified: Oh, sorry it's 1963! For a paper written in 2014 cheesy
lol can't even laugh,,so sad
Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by Hungarriman: 4:46pm On Mar 19, 2020
magicminister:
I am your typical 2.2. graduate from a federal University in Nigeria. I was frustrated and treated so badly by the people that should've mentored me and encouraged me to grow. Fortunately, i was able to pursue a masters degree abroad and made a 3.9/4.0 gpa.

That was when i realized that i am actually not a dullard but the Nigerian public education system failed me... Even if you want to go to school in Naija, i strongly strongly advise you go to reputable private school like covenant. They might have stringent rules but at least you are sure that your effort would not be thwarted by a lecturer because he saw you eating isi-ewu at a bar or for some other stupid reasons!!



Graduating with a 2.2 automatically denied me many opportunities. I was pretty much ineligible for employment in most Nigerian companies, my dream of going to an IVY league school was out the window.
Public schools in Naija isn’t worth it!!! You’re better off with a 2.1 from a mushroom private school than a 2.2 from a public school!!!
Words on Marble, Chief.
Truer words have never been spoken.
Re: Lecturer Explains Why Nigerian Youths Prefer Studying Abroad by HigherEd: 12:57pm On Mar 20, 2020
magicminister:
I am your typical 2.2. graduate from a federal University in Nigeria. I was frustrated and treated so badly by the people that should've mentored me and encouraged me to grow. Fortunately, i was able to pursue a masters degree abroad and made a 3.9/4.0 gpa.

That was when i realized that i am actually not a dullard but the Nigerian public education system failed me... Even if you want to go to school in Naija, i strongly strongly advise you go to reputable private school like covenant. They might have stringent rules but at least you are sure that your effort would not be thwarted by a lecturer because he saw you eating isi-ewu at a bar or for some other stupid reasons!!



Graduating with a 2.2 automatically denied me many opportunities. I was pretty much ineligible for employment in most Nigerian companies, my dream of going to an IVY league school was out the window.
Public schools in Naija isn’t worth it!!! You’re better off with a 2.1 from a mushroom private school than a 2.2 from a public school!!!
Which school did you do your MSc?

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