jihday:
really? England don't even have any midfielder with rakitic talent

ykalhaji:
Just saw a picture of 20 years Etebo with his alleged wife and child on front page.

Bunique:
reading through this thread i just feel most Nigerians are ingrates. we forget so easily and are very quick to over hype our abilities. i will not forget the general atmosphere of our football before Rohr took over. look at the teams still at the tournament check where their players play compare that with our players.
many persons here before the world cup had no problem with Ighalo making the squad so why the insult on Rohr for taking Ighalo? tactics did not take us out rather our players failed and many persons here were happy with the players selected for the world cup. please let's move on and learn to appreciate because with this attitude no coach would want to work with us.

ChrisKels:
I will have to invite john12 and bully the agents hunters to this thread because I can smell some poor agents in here trynna fill our team with some players.

SharpJoe:


Etebo is 22 and not 22. I think he will be 23 this year. So nothing out of the ordinary for a 21/22 year old with lots of money and fame to get a young lady pregnant. By the way, the lady is not his wife but his baby mama.

Danielnino00:



If u ask me,this world cup was supposed to be our best ever... in terms of preparation and the type of players we took, we were supposed to do better than that...we lost d first and last games due to Rohr stupidity...
Well its past now... our focus should b on the AFCON qualifier.. we can't afford to miss out again..

elyte89:



We av gone past dis obvious lies jare


Etebo head alone pass 22years


Enough of all dis sugarcoating lies,when we c a 22year old boy we knw one

komekn:


I will be brutally honest and unashamedly biased.


Overwhelming number of black players who have skill and pace, half the outfield players in the team are black.

Dele Alli, Lingard, Rueben Loftus-Cheek, Marcus Rashford, Raheem. These players bring the much needed skill, technical ability and panacea.

Otherwise England usually has a majority of carpenters type predictable players.

If Gomez didnt get Injured he would be in this team.

There is now rice and peas plus jerk children and a smattering of pounded yam with okro on the menu. No longer just pie and bland chips

komekn:


Can I ask you a question birthed from deep seated bias.

What do you see as the essential Ingredient that brought those victories into being❓ may I ask.

All in the last year plus literally.

England is becoming like France and who has been pushing that change in mentality Gareth Southgate.

Sam Allardyce would never do what Southgate is doing for sure.

England ate in the best position living football memory to win it.

On paper I can not see Croatia beating England or can you.

Take away Modric and what's left in terms of top level quality.

komekn:


It's only here we talk of U17 as if it's conclusive evidence of World class quality. Present and future.

I can not count how many former England U17's are playing non league football and or working in Tesco. Within the last 10 years.

I have been having this argument with regards to Osimhen and Nwakali brother's the only one on an upwards progression is Awoniyi.

edi287:

Rakitic and Kovacic are better than all the English midfielders.
Though I do think England's pace and movement might be too much for their defence. It'll be an interesting game

ykalhaji:
Just saw a picture of 20 years Etebo with his alleged wife and child on front page.

Chrismario:


Ebebo is reported to be 22 but considering many things, It is likely that he falsified his age

Chrismario:



That's the problem bro. He blamed coach for Fred's problem but failed use same measurement on Nwakali, Osimhen, et all

komekn:


Can I ask you a question birthed from deep seated bias.

What do you see as the essential Ingredient that brought those victories into being❓ may I ask.

All in the last year plus literally.

England is becoming like France and who has been pushing that change in mentality Gareth Southgate.

Sam Allardyce would never do what Southgate is doing for sure.

England ate in the best position living football memory to win it.

On paper I can not see Croatia beating England or can you.

Take away Modric and what's left in terms of top level quality.

BascoVanVeli:
Former Akwa united and CHAN midfielder Afeez Aremu scored the winner for his club IK Start in Norway.

Certitude:

I defended Uzoho, but I can't defend this one.

Humility017:


you need cut off those your expectations on rohr...because the old man always look for ways to defend his failures....

he has never accept responsiblity for his team abysmal play...always looking for an excuse to give.

you wrote true up there....but I doubt if rohr will take heed

BascoVanVeli:


So basically he should forget about the national team?

komekn:


You simply have no idea what you are talking about.

Do you really think it's everything that gets to the pages of newspapers. Do you know how many contracts are offered but not signed.

So when a player decline my offer I should run to the media or keep quite and look elsewhere.

Don't begin to talk about what you have absolutely no idea about, beyond what you read in the papers.

komekn:
This is why people should not get carried away with all the media hype, a lot of the time its just contrived by agents and other intrested parties to market thier player.

There is an article by Josh Sippie i have just read again similar hype, a player has scored 1 goals in the easiest league to score among the the top twenty league in Europe and scored 4 in the 2nd tier of Dutch football, definitely way below championship. This being hailed as remarkable progress. It simply is not , that's hype.

He is going too Porto you are struggling to play in Eredivise and you go to Porto. he needed to find a club that will give him clear first team football because it may not go as he is projecting. I hope he does wonderful and sets Europe on fire with Porto, that is my wishful thinking for him. Objectively speaking it certainly looks highly unlikely but not impossible.

How long will Arsenal give him, should he even be staying at Arsenal ? or moving on before he becomes fa forgotten transaction, will he qualify for a work permit , can he perform only time will tell.

Quite a few chose to Arsenal leave and quite a few were asked to leave. Arsenal have been quite poor at retaining and encouraging top youth talent in recent times and should i say even impatient, this is primarily due to lack of opportunity.

komekn:


I agree with you in bold.

But it such an anti climax after all the talk of all these big clubs you settle for a relegation bound team. If Liverpool think he is quality they will pay but i assure you they did not, that is if they were ever interested in the first place.

Disappointed i too got carried away with the hype.

Certitude:

I defended Uzoho, but I can't defend this one.

komekn:


Onyedinma is not in any predicament, he played the vast majority of games for Millwall in the Championship 36 games last season if I'm right.

So he is not a bench warmer.

He mostly plays on the wing however, this manager has stifled his inventive and skilful style of play to a no frills results and end product approach, based on endeavor.

He is not an academy player he has played over 174 games of professional football he still only 21.

Osimhen is not anywhere near his level infact he is not even on the bus. Nwakali is considerably lower too.

So what is there to compare.

Osimhen and Nwakali were invited on the basis of clear favoritism and past youthful glories in the Nigerian U17 yet to be transferred to the field of senior professional football.

Fred Onyedinma given the same opportunity to contend for a place in the SE what do you think would be the result

andrew444:


If you can defend uzoho age then also defend etebo age,we all know the truth in our mind.

If we can believe uzoho is 19 then we should also believe etebo is 22.

Correct me if I am wrong

andrew444:


If you can defend uzoho age then also defend etebo age,we all know the truth in our mind.

If we can believe uzoho is 19 then we should also believe etebo is 22.

Correct me if I am wrong

Curtisaxel27:
Anybody who still believes Gernot Rohr has something to offer us is not mentally well.

There is NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING special that Rohr did at the WC which our indegenous coaches wouldn't have done.

Why on earth should a right thinking coach pick the hopelessly poor Idowu ahead of Ebuehi? I don't recall a single meaningful cross Idowu made throughout the entire tournament!. He can't take on players, can't defend, can't pass, can't control the ball, can't bomb forward, nothing!. It was clear right from the Poland friendly that Idowu was the weakest link in the team.

When Ebuehi changed the game against Iceland, I thought our coach will finally receive sense and start him against Argentina, But Rohr, the German
FOOL still started Idowu!. I nearly shed tears when I saw Idowu in the lineup before the match.

Rohr's excuse? "Well, he was born in St. Petersburg so he knows the ground best".

Such unbelievably stupid logic!.

So as the AFCON will be held in Cameroon we need to look for Cameroonian-Nigerians or at least Nigerians who play in Cameroon who " know the ground" too!.

I daresay Genort Rohr has absolutely no control over what tactics he plays. He simply does whatever the big players and media asks him to do.

After Croatia, the media clamoured for a 3-5-2 formation and Mourinho said Mikel is better as a deep lying playmaker than an AM. And Rohr did just that!. Played 3-5-2 with Mikel as libero!. Because Mourinho said so!

The earlier we send that white Salisu packing, the better for our football.

*crawls back to my cave*

Certitude:

Well. This ain't about belief or hypocrisy. There was a basis for defending Uzoho, as he passed through the MRI scan. What will I use in defending Etebo?
* Without prejudice to the accuracy of the MRI scan.

Chrismario:



Etebo played in NPFL

Certitude:

Ebuehi wouldn't have performed any better than Idowu against Argentina on that LWB against Messi.

andrew444:


Lol you beleive MRI scan then you are at your own perl.

Once again MRI scan or not,if uzoho is 19 then etebo is 22.

SharpJoe:


No doubt that Ebuehi is faster than Idowu. There is a big chance that Ebuehi would have performed better. It might not be overwhelming but certainly a fraction better.

There is no way the slower option was the better choice.

SharpJoe:

I believe MRI scan due to its scientific accuracy over hearsay from people with no proof whatsoever to back their claims.