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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 11:13am On Jul 09, 2018
andrew444:

Lol you beleive MRI scan then you are at your own perl.
Once again MRI scan or not,if uzoho is 19 then etebo is 22.
FIFA uses MRI. Until there's something better, I ll go with it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 11:15am On Jul 09, 2018
Bunique:
reading through this thread i just feel most Nigerians are ingrates. we forget so easily and are very quick to over hype our abilities. i will not forget the general atmosphere of our football before Rohr took over. look at the teams still at the tournament check where their players play compare that with our players.
many persons here before the world cup had no problem with Ighalo making the squad so why the insult on Rohr for taking Ighalo? tactics did not take us out rather our players failed and many persons here were happy with the players selected for the world cup. please let's move on and learn to appreciate because with this attitude no coach would want to work with us.

Very well said! I have thought along the same line since we got knocked out and the masses started throwing stones at Rohr. I remember the same happened with Lagerback. People forget that we were beating Greece and so seriously dominating them that we could have run riot in that game and then Oga Sani Kaita struck! We went down to 10 men the Greek manager immediately brought on another striker and we lost a game that seemed to be heading towards a routine win.

The next game against Korea which we needed to win to go through Oga Yakubu missed empty net from 3 yards and we end up drawing and getting knocked out. After all that Lagerback was called Lagerbeer and poured with every insult imaginable. shey na him kick person get red card abi na him miss empty net?

The good thing is after the disappointment with Nigeria he went on to coach Iceland and helped them overachieve and thereby reminded doubters of is management ability. As for Nigeria, we went on to appoint Eguavon and then Siasia and then failed to qualify for AFCON 2012 with all our 'superstars' grin

The same may happen with Rohr the way Nigerian fans are going. NA una sabi.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by oloriooko(m): 11:27am On Jul 09, 2018
Danielnino00:
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Ndidi left in d group stage!!

That Ndidi dude is a machine and i sincerely wish he meets a good coach that can bring the beast out of him, he's unstoppable!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:29am On Jul 09, 2018
andrew444:


So because he played in the NPFL he is over age,alright no arguement concerning that.

Go and check those football academy and foundation and see many 25 years old there claiming 17,I know what I am saying.

They are so many over age players in academy just as the npfl,take it or leave it

I'm not defending Uzoho but those defending him has valid argument in MRI (Im still skeptical of MRI thoug) unlike Ebebo.

The truth is that our players are cheat when it comes to age. Imagine Simmy claiming 26, Ah done die

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:34am On Jul 09, 2018
Dom Iorfa absent as Wolves names their preseason squad. Bright Enobakhare, the only Nigerian that made the list ;


Goalkeepers: John Ruddy, Will Norris, Andreas Sondergaard

Defenders: Willy Boly, Conor Coady, Danny Batth, Roderick Miranda, Ryan Bennett, Kortney Hause, Cameron John
Wing backs: Matt Doherty, Barry Douglas, Oskar Buur Rasmussen

Midfielders: Ruben Neves, Morgan Gibbs-White, Pedro Goncalves, Elliott Watt

Forwards: Diogo Jota, Ivan Cavaleiro, Helder Costa, Leo Bonatini, Rafa Mir, Benny Ashley-Seal, Ryan Giles and Bright Enobakhare

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 12:11pm On Jul 09, 2018
Chrismario:


I'm not defending Uzoho but those defending him has valid argument in MRI (Im still skeptical of MRI thoug) unlike Ebebo.

The truth is that our players are cheat when it comes to age. Imagine Simmy claiming 26, Ah done die

Lol leave simmy jor

What about Diego Costa ?

Even falcao got 2 passport where they said he is 2 years older than his official age
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by pelezico: 1:11pm On Jul 09, 2018
Hes gonna be sponsored??!!!?? What the HECK Has this administration no shame. Why not sponsor a youngish local like one of the boys from 94 - 98. Rorh is old - what good will extra training give him but another few years with some other nation - dagggggg!!!!!!! Mannnnnn!!!!! Wotttttt!!!?

Why do we hate ourselves so much man ??

Oasis007:


We were much more an Underdog during the Qualifiers. Majority of Nigerians had written off the our Chances after the Draws were made. Majority weren't expecting them to win the Group, thus they were less pressured and were able to maximize it to good Effect.

Rohr wanted to play the same Card in Russia, but failed woefully. He wanted the Team to be viewed as Underdog but our Jerseys brought us to the World. He wanted low Attention on the Team, but our Performance during the Qualifiers couldn't help either.



The Essence of Friendlies to to prepare the Team, to experiments some Ideas, look for the Positives and Negatives in the Team, and do your best as a Coach to fix the Holes in the Team.

Rohr tried out 3 - 5 - 2 against Argies and it worked. Damn it was like a Bomb. I couldn't believe it Bruh. We were great and composed. Why didn't he build on it?! The same Formation England tried out during Friendlies that gave them good Results and Vibes is still the same that carries them to the Semi-Final Bruh.

I don't wanna talk much about Rohr's Failure buddy, coz it's very upsetting. He's damn too weak on the World Stage. He's not the one we need for Qatar 2022, except he's gonna be sponsored on further Coaching Courses in Europe under the Top Teams Managers in the 5 best Leagues in Europe and World at large.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Triniti(m): 1:26pm On Jul 09, 2018
AIG07:
World Cup is not meant for a team full of professional bench warmers.

Our players lack of playing time at their various clubs affected them at the World Cup. We are not known for ball possession. A team that doesn't play possessive style must be agile. Cos they will expend more energy chasing every ball. Cover more distance and have the ball less which can be frustrating at the same time.

The bitter truth is this-we wouldn't have stand any chance of progressing beyond the round of 16 even if we had qualified ahead of Argentina.

Our players struggled to play 90Mins football. 90% of them gases out at the 70th minute. They become so tired that they Struggle to keep./hold on to the final minute. It was really glaring through out our friendlies and the world cup matches.

The few that performed were those playing regular 90mins for their clubs e.g Musa thanks to his CSKA move, Ebuehi, Etebo, Moses and Mikel to some extent.

I tthink we need to tell ourselves the plain truth. Players warming the bench are not good for competitive matches. Moses was the culprit in 2014. But this year, it wasn't one or two players but almost the whole team.

To win, you must be ready to play 120min football see Croatia see Russia see Belgium, see France see England 90% of their players are 90mins regular players at their clubs. The agility required for this stage is there and so, they can all go on to play 120mins football and that's one of the reason they are in the Semis.

The World Cup is not for the faint hearted. Team spirit is good but not enough. There is nothing they can do even when the spirit is willing but the body is weak. They will have no option than to give in.

We need to get rid/minimize the numbers of bench warmers in our national team. Players, irrespective of who they are, where they play, not clocking atleast 70mins football week in week out don't deserve to be in the national team.

*MODIFIED*
This in return will make the players sit up and bend down. We need to stop encouraging mediocrity.

We took a permanent bench cleaner in a second division in Echiejile to World Cup thinking Miracle will happen over night. We were counting on Kelechi, a player who barely clocked a 1000min for his club as a back up striker for one that has been on goal drought since God knows when.
We were hoping for Miracle from Uzoho a relatively newbie who is still an apprentice to save us.
We had bench of pregnant players, half fit/injury prone ones.

We are a joke for thinking we can pull a surprise.

The national Team is not meant to groom players. No. If you are not performing at your club or playing as a starter kindly stay out.

Playing time is very important in modern day soccer. Loew made a great mistake starting Neuer as first choice goalkeeper. The guy wasn't at his best and so couldn't keep his poor team in the competition. Enough of all this training performances. Match day actions are miles different from training performances.

Our technical committee needs to step up their game. Sit Rohr down and talk some sense into him. get a sound coach as assistant for him and if he is not willing to change he should go four years is not far let the planning begins.
May your head never lack oil, I just wish some of our football admistrators can stumble on threads like this

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SharpJoe: 1:57pm On Jul 09, 2018
Certitude:

That's if we are to view it from an attacking point. Ebuehi is a better player than Idowu but I'm particular to playing against Messi on that left side. I don't think he would have performed better.

Dealing with Messi has a lot to do with speed. Even on a defensive standpoint, Ebuehi looks the better option.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 2:00pm On Jul 09, 2018
SharpJoe:


Dealing with Messi has a lot to do with speed. Even on a defensive standpoint, Ebuehi looks the better option.
Well, Idowu didn't perform badly in the game tho.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:19pm On Jul 09, 2018
ChrisKels:







Dont u think it's the bolded playing all over again? grin





How come after all the hypes, Onyedinma settled for a lowly MillWall?


Very simple it's better to be playing day and day out than a permanent bench warmer.

However, I actually think he has become emotionally attached to Millwall. Check his history he was wanted by Arsenal and Chelsea as a teenager but declined.

It worked for his former team mate Gomez from Charlton to Liverpool. But it hasn't worked for him so far.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:23pm On Jul 09, 2018
andrew444:


If you can defend uzoho age then also defend etebo age,we all know the truth in our mind.

If we can believe uzoho is 19 then we should also believe etebo is 22.

Correct me if I am wrong

Agreed without question.

The issue is not belief but. ACCEPTANCE. I can accept your age doesn't mean I believe it. Many European clubs will accept your official age it doesn't mean they actually believe it, off record.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 2:26pm On Jul 09, 2018
komekn:


Agreed without question.

The issue is not belief but. ACCEPTANCE. I can accept your age doesn't mean I believe it. Many European clubs will accept your official age it doesn't mean they actually believe it, off record.


Yes thank you for this comment.

European club knows but as far as you keep on playing good then there is no problem about that .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 2:31pm On Jul 09, 2018
komekn:



Very simple it's better to be playing day and day out than a permanent bench warmer.

However, I actually think he has become emotionally attached to Millwall. Check his history he was wanted by Arsenal and Chelsea as a teenager but declined.

It worked for his former team mate Gomez from Charlton to Liverpool. But it hasn't worked for him so far.

Balderdash
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:19pm On Jul 09, 2018
i've read many reasons of what caused our ouster but i think alot of them are unrealistic. for one based on the calibre of players we paraded it wasn't a huge surprise that we couldn't make it out of our group. compared to croatia and argentina most of our players are not world beaters. people may say o but argentina was terrible but it took a french team full of world class players to best them. As much as rohr has his faults in the way he coached the super eagles at the world cup the truth is if odion had buried his chances we probably won't be having this conversation. sacking him with the mindset that the next person will perform magic and tactically turn your average players to world beaters is plainly delusional. you can have the best tactics but if your personnel are not up to scratch then unless your opposition is seriously off form and you are playing out of your skin more often than not you will lose. even klopp that said with lesser teams you can beat more talented opposition why is he not coaching bristol city or watford or huddersfield to prove his point. he prefers to coach teams that have appreciable levels of talent that will give him a chance. bringing it back to why we didn't succeed in russia i think the attacking talent we paraded let us down. apart from musa nobody brought their A game as far as the striking department was concerned. ighalo, KC and moses didn't do enough in my opinion. we can blame rohr for not giving iwobi and simmy enough chances to show what they could do
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 3:25pm On Jul 09, 2018
The most competitive league in the world? Yea right!

Trust me, if you can transfer any one of he EPL powerhouses: ManCity, ManU, Chelsea, or Liverpool to La Liga, they would all be competing for the 4th position or lower in La Liga. The EPL is just marketing but if you want to watch great football La Liga is the best league in the world.


O pari

komekn:


From talking to a few Nigerian international who have played in France Belgium and Germany.

They all said to me the excitement the speed the opportunity to test yourself in what they called the most competitive league in the World.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SlayerForever: 3:32pm On Jul 09, 2018
chrisooblog:
i've read many reasons of what caused our ouster but i think alot of them are unrealistic. for one based on the calibre of players we paraded it wasn't a huge surprise that we couldn't make it out of our group. compared to croatia and argentina most of our players are not world beaters. people may say o but argentina was terrible but it took a french team full of world class players to best them. As much as rohr has his faults in the way he coached the super eagles at the world cup the truth is if odion had buried his chances we probably won't be having this conversation. sacking him with the mindset that the next person will perform magic and tactically turn your average players to world beaters is plainly delusional. you can have the best tactics but if your personnel are not up to scratch then unless your opposition is seriously off form and you are playing out of your skin more often than not you will lose. even klopp that said with lesser teams you can beat more talented opposition why is he not coaching bristol city or watford or huddersfield to prove his point. he prefers to coach teams that have appreciable levels of talent that will give him a chance. bringing it back to why we didn't succeed in russia i think the attacking talent we paraded let us down. apart from musa nobody brought their A game as far as the striking department was concerned. ighalo, KC and moses didn't do enough in my opinion. we can blame rohr for not giving iwobi and simmy enough chances to show what they could do


Nothing do you my brother.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SlayerForever: 3:35pm On Jul 09, 2018
wayodude:


Very well said! I have thought along the same line since we got knocked out and the masses started throwing stones at Rohr. I remember the same happened with Lagerback. People forget that we were beating Greece and so seriously dominating them that we could have run riot in that game and then Oga Sani Kaita struck! We went down to 10 men the Greek manager immediately brought on another striker and we lost a game that seemed to be heading towards a routine win.

The next game against Korea which we needed to win to go through Oga Yakubu missed empty net from 3 yards and we end up drawing and getting knocked out. After all that Lagerback was called Lagerbeer and poured with every insult imaginable. shey na him kick person get red card abi na him miss empty net?

The good thing is after the disappointment with Nigeria he went on to coach Iceland and helped them overachieve and thereby reminded doubters of is management ability. As for Nigeria, we went on to appoint Eguavon and then Siasia and then failed to qualify for AFCON 2012 with all our 'superstars' grin

The same may happen with Rohr the way Nigerian fans are going. NA una sabi.


You get sense. Unfortunately, the sensible are few out there.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SlayerForever: 3:35pm On Jul 09, 2018
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Icon79:
The most competitive league in the world? Yea right!

Trust me, if you can transfer any one of he EPL powerhouses: ManCity, ManU, Chelsea, or Liverpool to La Liga, they would all be competing for the 4th position or lower in La Liga. The EPL is just marketing but if you want to watch great football La Liga is the best league in the world.


O pari


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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 3:49pm On Jul 09, 2018
You made some good points except for trying to blame VicMo for our attacking woes in Russia. Except for our first game against Croatia, VicMo played as a Wingback in Russia.

As regards to the rest of your arguments, here are some facts I would leave with you and everyone else:
1. Gernot Rohr is definitely NOT the right man for the job. This world cup clearly exposed his technical deficiencies as a coach. And the fact that after nearly two years at the helm, Rohr still doesn't know what's his best team is sadly disappointing.
2. Based on everything I have seen, Rohr has taken this team as far as he could take them. Fact: the 3 first games he had with this team - vs Zambia (away), Algeria (home), and Cameroun (home) were his best performances with this team. Since that time the team standard has actually started going down rather than improving.
3. Samson Siasia would have done much better with this team if he were given the same support and the freehand Gernot Rohr received.

Having said all that, I still think we should retain Rohr simply because firing him would take us back another 4 years. For instance, if we are to fire Rohr today, the NFF isn't gonna replace him with Siasia or with even a more competent foreign coach. Rather, if we fire him, the NFF would replace him with that charlatan, Yusuf! To me, that would be going from frying pan to fire. Hence, all things considered, I believe that it's in our best interest to stick with Gernot Rohr at least through the AFCON. Let's give him a mandate to make, at least, the finals of AFCON or get fired.


O pari

chrisooblog:
i've read many reasons of what caused our ouster but i think alot of them are unrealistic. for one based on the calibre of players we paraded it wasn't a huge surprise that we couldn't make it out of our group. compared to croatia and argentina most of our players are not world beaters. people may say o but argentina was terrible but it took a french team full of world class players to best them. As much as rohr has his faults in the way he coached the super eagles at the world cup the truth is if odion had buried his chances we probably won't be having this conversation. sacking him with the mindset that the next person will perform magic and tactically turn your average players to world beaters is plainly delusional. you can have the best tactics but if your personnel are not up to scratch then unless your opposition is seriously off form and you are playing out of your skin more often than not you will lose. even klopp that said with lesser teams you can beat more talented opposition why is he not coaching bristol city or watford or huddersfield to prove his point. he prefers to coach teams that have appreciable levels of talent that will give him a chance. bringing it back to why we didn't succeed in russia i think the attacking talent we paraded let us down. apart from musa nobody brought their A game as far as the striking department was concerned. ighalo, KC and moses didn't do enough in my opinion. we can blame rohr for not giving iwobi and simmy enough chances to show what they could do

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 4:01pm On Jul 09, 2018
Omo, did you watch Argentina vs France, and did you see the kind of trouble Kylian Mbappe caused the ageing Argentine defenders and DMs? Well, that's the kind of trouble Tyrone Ebuehi would have caused them as well. Take it from someone who knows, a few minor tweaks would have easily won us that game against Argentina:
- play Ebuehi RWB or LWB
- play VicMo LWB or RWB
- play Musa central

And see how they would've ran the Argies ragged. As regards to Tyrone having trouble defending Messi, Ehuehi is actually a better defender than people make him out to be. And in addition, he wasn't gonna defend Messi all by himself. After all, the primary responsibility for marking Messi in that game was on Etebo not Idowu.

Bottom line, Rohr goofed up big time because he doesn't know what his best team is.


O pari

Certitude:

That's if we are to view it from an attacking point. Ebuehi is a better player than Idowu but I'm particular to playing against Messi on that left side. I don't think he would have performed better.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by infonnews5: 4:09pm On Jul 09, 2018
West Ham are close to completing the double signing of former Arsenal midfielder Jack Wilshere and Ukraine forward Andriy Yarmolenko.

England international Wilshere, 26, has been looking for a new club since his Gunners contract expired at the end of June.

A fee of about 20m euros (£17.66m) is understood to have been agreed with Borussia Dortmund for Yarmolenko.

The 28-year-old has scored 35 times in 77 appearances for his country.

Wilshere’s career has been badly affected by injuries but the Hammers are confident he can make a meaningful contribution to a squad being overhauled by new manager Manuel Pellegri
source : https://www.infonewsnigeria.com/discussion/1483/west-ham-close-on-jack-wilshere-and-andriy-yarmolenko-signings?new=1

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 4:10pm On Jul 09, 2018
Abeg, mek we hear word jor! This is an average England team as always. They are where they are today for two reasons:
- they received a favorable draw. Nigeria would have qualified from their group!
- two, the referee helped them against Colombia coupled with a little bit of luck during the penalty kicks. All things being equal, they would've been eliminated in the round of 16, so I don't understand all the hype.


O pari

komekn:


I will be brutally honest and unashamedly biased.


Overwhelming number of black players who have skill and pace, half the outfield players in the team are black.

Dele Alli, Lingard, Rueben Loftus-Cheek, Marcus Rashford, Raheem. These players bring the much needed skill, technical ability and panacea.

Otherwise England usually has a majority of carpenters type predictable players.

If Gomez didnt get Injured he would be in this team.

There is now rice and peas plus jerk children and a smattering of pounded yam with okro on the menu. No longer just pie and bland chips

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 4:18pm On Jul 09, 2018
going forward we need to be strategic in where we want our team to be in the world cup. currently the super eagles based on the calibre of players we have now is only good enough to compete favourable in the group stage maybe with good fortune of easier groups or lucky result we might make it to the second round which is usually our bus stop. we have to honestly access ourselves and say this is where we are currently so what can we do to raise our level? in my opinion if we start doing the right things today it will probably take us 3-4 to put ourselves in the position to realistic compete to win the world cup.

to get to that level first administration has to continue to maintain high professionalism not just for this tournament but every single one going forward. for coaching history tells us indigenous coaches of national teams usually lead their countries to winning the tournament so we need to start grooming our coaches whether ex-internationals or locally based we have to ensure they meet minimum criteria of coaching knowledge with requisite qualifications. in the short term attach them to good foreign coaches with the view to them eventually taking over. of course integrity, high tactical knowledge plus managerial nous will be criteria chosen to select such nigerian coaches. nff can help by insisting you must have the caf qualifications to coach npfl sides.

for players we need to change how we scout players. from a foreign based angle we should select knowledgeable, trustworthy scouts preferably ex players based in those targeted countries to look for nigerian players with high bias for skill/technical ability. let them also establish relationship with these nigerian born players from their 10s to teens. for back home same thing but with emphasis on choosing skilful players we need to weed jambodies out of the system.

also the league is the bedrock of any football country. we need to get it to a top level that any coach we hire will not hesitate to pick a player from.

us fans also have a part to play by giving real supportership no half hearted conditional backing only when the team is doing well. take a cue from other countries in that regard

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 4:42pm On Jul 09, 2018
AIG, you normally make a lot of sense but not this time. Listen, all the players who played for us in Russia (including Kelechi) had enough games this past season to keep them match sharp. Our players tend to gas out early in Russia not because we were never in control of the game in any of our matches. You can control the game with or without the possession, mind you! But our problem is that we never controlled any aspect of the games, rather we were always chasing the ball. And you get tired out easily when you're chasing and chasing the ball throughout the game. Hence, the lack of game time has nothing to do with what happened to us in Russia. In that case, all the blames should squarely go to the technical crew.


O pari

AIG07:
World Cup is not meant for a team full of professional bench warmers.

Our players lack of playing time at their various clubs affected them at the World Cup. We are not known for ball possession. A team that doesn't play possessive style must be agile. Cos they will expend more energy chasing every ball. Cover more distance and have the ball less which can be frustrating at the same time.

The bitter truth is this-we wouldn't have stand any chance of progressing beyond the round of 16 even if we had qualified ahead of Argentina.

Our players struggled to play 90Mins football. 90% of them gases out at the 70th minute. They become so tired that they Struggle to keep./hold on to the final minute. It was really glaring through out our friendlies and the world cup matches.

The few that performed were those playing regular 90mins for their clubs e.g Musa thanks to his CSKA move, Ebuehi, Etebo, Moses and Mikel to some extent.

I tthink we need to tell ourselves the plain truth. Players warming the bench are not good for competitive matches. Moses was the culprit in 2014. But this year, it wasn't one or two players but almost the whole team.

To win, you must be ready to play 120min football see Croatia see Russia see Belgium, see France see England 90% of their players are 90mins regular players at their clubs. The agility required for this stage is there and so, they can all go on to play 120mins football and that's one of the reason they are in the Semis.

The World Cup is not for the faint hearted. Team spirit is good but not enough. There is nothing they can do even when the spirit is willing but the body is weak. They will have no option than to give in.

We need to get rid/minimize the numbers of bench warmers in our national team. Players, irrespective of who they are, where they play, not clocking atleast 70mins football week in week out don't deserve to be in the national team.

*MODIFIED*
This in return will make the players sit up and bend down. We need to stop encouraging mediocrity.

We took a permanent bench cleaner in a second division in Echiejile to World Cup thinking Miracle will happen over night. We were counting on Kelechi, a player who barely clocked a 1000min for his club as a back up striker for one that has been on goal drought since God knows when.
We were hoping for Miracle from Uzoho a relatively newbie who is still an apprentice to save us.
We had bench of pregnant players, half fit/injury prone ones.

We are a joke for thinking we can pull a surprise.

The national Team is not meant to groom players. No. If you are not performing at your club or playing as a starter kindly stay out.

Playing time is very important in modern day soccer. Loew made a great mistake starting Neuer as first choice goalkeeper. The guy wasn't at his best and so couldn't keep his poor team in the competition. Enough of all this training performances. Match day actions are miles different from training performances.

Our technical committee needs to step up their game. Sit Rohr down and talk some sense into him. get a sound coach as assistant for him and if he is not willing to change he should go four years is not far let the planning begins.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 4:59pm On Jul 09, 2018
Icon79:
Omo, did you watch Argentina vs France, and did you see the kind of trouble Kylian Mbappe caused the ageing Argentine defenders and DMs? Well, that's the kind of trouble Tyrone Ebuehi would have caused them as well. Take it from someone who knows, a few minor tweaks would have easily won us that game against Argentina:
- play Ebuehi RWB or LWB
- play VicMo LWB or RWB
- play Musa central

And see how they would've ran the Argies ragged. As regards to Tyrone having trouble defending Messi, Ehuehi is actually a better defender than people make him out to be. And in addition, he wasn't gonna defend Messi all by himself. After all, the primary responsibility for marking Messi in that game was on Etebo not Idowu.

Bottom line, Rohr goofed up big time because he doesn't know what his best team is.


O pari

I'm not doubting Ebuehi's defensive ability but I just don't think he would have really performed better than Idowu. It's not about being responsible for marking messi. Messi playing on the right would always go through his wing. Though I still believe Ebuehi is the better of the two.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:09pm On Jul 09, 2018
People here told us how good a player is, and that he is next to guguru and epa but we all saw what happened.

They are here again telling us how a player would have changed the game if he was played, forgetting that they have argued he was in the team to occupy a position but when he was played in another position he gave out penalty in a tensed match.

They have also forgotten to tell us how many attacking moves Victor Moses made in that position against Argentina or is it the case of anywhere belle face analysis again?

Was it not obvious that the wing backs on that day were pegged back by Argentina's wingers or should I say our wing backs were more defensive in that role rather than been offensive, and that that was the tactics in play?

Which sane coach will tell you to expose your wing when two players are placed against each of your wing backs?

One is even comparing Ebuehi to Mbappe. Hahahahahahahahaha! A winger to a RB. Hahahahahahahahaha! grin

Saying Ebuehi would have caused the ageing Argentine defense problem when Victor Moses who is the best dribble in our team never dare tried it against Argentina. Hahahahahahahahaha! What an irony! grin

How can one even think of a makeshift player in a role he caused a penalty just previously in a very crucial match? grin Is that not gambling?

Unfortunately, they are blaming the same Rohr who dey praised to high heavens before the mundial began and had done everything to accuse, abuse and defame those who dared spoke against Rohr. Chaiiiiiiiiiiiii! grin

Anyway, I no longer take some peeps here seriously. I don't know if it's a a case of defective cognition functioning or..... lipsrsealed grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 5:17pm On Jul 09, 2018
pelezico:
Hes gonna be sponsored??!!!?? What the HECK Has this administration no shame. Why not sponsor a youngish local like one of the boys from 94 - 98. Rorh is old - what good will extra training give him but another few years with some other nation - dagggggg!!!!!!! Mannnnnn!!!!! Wotttttt!!!?

Why do we hate ourselves so much man ??


grin

No vex Bruh..... LMAO!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 5:36pm On Jul 09, 2018
forgiveness:
People here told us how good a player is, and that he is next to guguru and epa but we all saw what happened.

They are here again telling us how a player would have changed the game if he was played, forgetting that they have argued he was in the team to occupy a position but when he was played in another position he gave out penalty in a tensed match.

They have also forgotten to tell us how many attacking moves Victor Moses made in that position against Argentina or is it the case of anywhere belle face analysis again?

Was it not obvious that the wing backs on that day were pegged back by Argentina's wingers or should I say our wing backs were more defensive in that role rather than been offensive, and that that was the tactics in play?

Which sane coach will tell you to expose your wing when two players are placed against each of your wing backs?

One is even comparing Ebuehi to Mbappe. Hahahahahahahahaha! A winger to a RB. Hahahahahahahahaha! grin

Saying Ebuehi would have caused the ageing Argentine defense problem when Victor Moses who is the best dribble in our team never dare tried it against Argentina. Hahahahahahahahaha! What an irony! grin

How can one even think of a makeshift player in a role he caused a penalty just previously in a very crucial match? grin Is that not gambling?

Unfortunately, they are blaming the same Rohr who dey praised to high heavens before the mundial began and had done everything to accuse, abuse and defame those who dared spoke against Rohr. Chaiiiiiiiiiiiii! grin

Anyway, I no longer take some peeps here seriously. I don't know if it's a a case of defective cognition functioning or..... lipsrsealed grin

Thanks sir. Ebuehi is a fine player but Idowu wasn't bad in that game.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 5:39pm On Jul 09, 2018
infonnews5:
West Ham are close to completing the double signing of former Arsenal midfielder Jack Wilshere and Ukraine forward Andriy Yarmolenko.

England international Wilshere, 26, has been looking for a new club since his Gunners contract expired at the end of June.

A fee of about 20m euros (£17.66m) is understood to have been agreed with Borussia Dortmund for Yarmolenko.

The 28-year-old has scored 35 times in 77 appearances for his country.

Wilshere’s career has been badly affected by injuries but the Hammers are confident he can make a meaningful contribution to a squad being overhauled by new manager Manuel Pellegri
source : https://www.infonewsnigeria.com/discussion/1483/west-ham-close-on-jack-wilshere-and-andriy-yarmolenko-signings?new=1

I am tipping West Ham to fight for 4th or 5th place finish next season
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 5:40pm On Jul 09, 2018
Galatasaray are hoping they can conclude a loan deal with Everton for their 21-year-old winger Henry Onyekuru.

Joining the club last summer, Onyekuru was on loan at Anderlecht, where he scored nine goals in 19 games.

He came back to Everton in January due to a knee injury that kept him out for the rest of the season.

Now he is approaching full fitness. His club are hoping to get another loan deal sealed.

And Sky Sports believes that Galatasaray are at the front of the queue.

The club mentioned on Twitter that "formal negotiations" had begun for the forward.

Read more at http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/galatasaray-present-loan-deal-for-everton-winger-onyekuru-4239221#ZtdojujDd1rOQpmL.99
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:56pm On Jul 09, 2018
DEAL, DESPITE INTEREST FROM OTHER TOP CLUBS
STE HOARE


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3 hours ago 3,303 reads 2 min

Taiwo Awoniyi is set to sign a contract extension with Liverpool, despite interest from some of Europe’s other top clubs, according to reports.

Barcelona, Chelsea, Inter Milan, Manchester City and Tottenham have all shown an interest in the 20-year-old, but he is expected to sign an extension with the Reds.

Unfortunately, work permit issues mean that the Nigerian U23 star will have to spend another season out on loan. He’s already had spells at FSV Frankfurt, NEC Nijmegen and Royal Excel Mouscron and he’s set to spend another season abroad.


However, the calibre of clubs interested in taking the Nigerian forward on loan indicates how well he’s done elsewhere, with Monaco one of the sides hoping to take him for the season and maybe even longer.

Awoniyi could sign for the former French champions for a two-year spell, after which, Liverpool will be hoping he can finally qualify for a work permit.


https://readliverpoolfc.com/2018/07/09/taiwo-awoniyi-set-to-sign-new-liverpool-deal-despite-interest-from-other-top-clubs/

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