iblawi:


Actually, some French men were arrested while supplying boko haram with weapons but that was when the conflict was really hot. Most of the sponsors then too were locals.

During the civil war, France also supported the Biafrans.

These are some of the reasons Nigerians don't really feel comfortable with France and their puppets (Chad and Cameroon).

abiodunalasa:


Like this abi...

Covert1:


Precisely. He was very clear on that in no mincing words that Nigeria is the leader of West Africa and for SA to have an African-centered foreign policy it has to work with Nigeria hence him and his government made the strategic decision of making Nigeria on a country to country basis outside the SADC his first place of visit since becoming President.

jln115:
Im waiting

“Prisoners have told us that Boko Haram is and has been supplied and supported by ‘Europeans’ who have arrived in their safe areas by helicopter.”

[b]The mysterious white man captured by Nigerian soldiers during last week’s storming of Boko Haram’s headquarters in the Sambisa Forest is a Frenchman and he specializes [/b]in repairing and unlocking armoured personnel vehicles and other fighting equipment, Daily Trust learnt from authoritative military sources yesterday. The white man’s identity is being concealed by the Federal Government and military authorities for diplomatic reasons, the sources also said.

kikuyu1:


Really,jln115,you should be wiser! This ishyt is never spontaneous-or rather as spontaneous as the appearance of this 2000 Toyota pickup convoy in Syria 3 years ago! Yes,there was significant local help including treason committed by ex COAS Ihejirika and foreign jihadis made sizeable input but BH was and still a mainly French invention to accomplish 3 objectives:
-grab the L Chad oil basin
-destabilise the wider Sahel allowing permanent basing of own forces
-allow physical possession of major gold and uranium reserves in Niger and Burkina faso and Mali

Here's your very own Eeben Barlow:

[url] http://sofrep.com/40700/eeben-barlow-speaks-pt-5-external-drivers-nigerias-war/#ixzz3jcYvLipc[/url]

Also close of 2016 there were reports of a Jean Fraude heli crashlanding in Cameroon-nothing happened,though since that's basically Lyon or Montpellier. Close of that year a damning story came out then radio silence:

[url] http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/g...-repairs-apcs/177947.html#jV7mTfbusXkbMw1x.99
[/url]

I still wonder how that played out. Does anyone have any idea?

kikuyu1:


Really,jln115,you should be wiser! This ishyt is never spontaneous-or rather as spontaneous as the appearance of this 2000 Toyota pickup convoy in Syria 3 years ago! Yes,there was significant local help including treason committed by ex COAS Ihejirika and foreign jihadis made sizeable input but BH was and still a mainly French invention to accomplish 3 objectives:
-grab the L Chad oil basin
-destabilise the wider Sahel allowing permanent basing of own forces
-allow physical possession of major gold and uranium reserves in Niger and Burkina faso and Mali

Here's your very own Eeben Barlow:

[url] http://sofrep.com/40700/eeben-barlow-speaks-pt-5-external-drivers-nigerias-war/#ixzz3jcYvLipc[/url]

Also close of 2016 there were reports of a Jean Fraude heli crashlanding in Cameroon-nothing happened,though since that's basically Lyon or Montpellier. Close of that year a damning story came out then radio silence:

[url] http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/g...-repairs-apcs/177947.html#jV7mTfbusXkbMw1x.99
[/url]

I still wonder how that played out. Does anyone have any idea?

jln115:

And yet Im still left with no answers and more heresy and speculation.

The fact that Eeben Barlow says BH are supplied by Europeans means literally nothing, there are many private gun runners in this world, from Europeans to South Africans that supply to any group that are willing to pay. My question still is how France caused BH and why would they support BH in Nigeria when there are other rebel groups in the Countries you mentioned above which they would have much better control over.

I still don't see how BH, which have been targeting mostly Nigerian forces and capturing mostly Nigerian towns ect ect is caused by the French.

There might be other Rebel groups in Chad, Mali, Burkina Faso ect ect which the above might be more true, but certainly not BH.

jln115:

The entire West supported biafra in any case.... But that's not the point, my question is how did France cause BH.

iblawi:


Big lie. Not the entire west. Yea many western nation and south Africa even provided troops.

iblawi:


It seems you have another mission.

Am not saying there are no local sponsors of boko haram. all am saying is they received significant help from France using our neighbouring countries.

Several French men were arrested in Cameroon and Nigeria in connection with the there support for this group and France did everything possible to make sure they were not tried especially in Cameroon.

France wanted control of the lake chad basin. Chad and Niger republic already discovered oil there. Same way France supported Cameroon over bakasi peninsula because of oil.

What more do you want?

Do you need pictures of those arrested from me before you stop this useless question?

Covert1:


[s]tdayof has been "AWOL" since the feat he achieved, my congratulations! Pls if he's found he should know Nigeria's Eagle 001 he's been asking about has since resumed it's presidential duties with more advanced systems onboard.

Meanwhile abiodunalasa help inform the Southies there President Cyril Ramaphosa is in Abuja as expected since becoming head of state to pay homage to the Giant of Africa which he so eloquently and profusely expressed today before his host President Muhammadu Buhari.

As I've alluded to thus far based on Ramaphosa' pragmatic record in the private sector a new vista of foreign policy acknowledging Nigeria's preeminence in Africa is expected to come forth under the new South African leadership for the good of Africa in general rather than the misguided grandstanding foreign policy of his predecessor Jacob Zuma. This Ramaphosa indicated as much today in Abuja. I have always said he's an educated and civilized man and knows not to bit more than he can chew.

We applaud the presence of the South African president in Abuja and his acknowledgement of Nigeria's sacrifices for South Africa's liberation (something we never hear here). I therefore propose a peace deal with the Southies on here and together to forge a common front with Nigeria in the lead for Africa's prosperity.[/s]

abiodunalasa:


I think Ramaphosa is very embedded in the ANC during the anti apartheid struggle... I saw his name alot in Mandela's book *Long Walk to Freedom*.
So I expect him to be better at recognizing Nigeria's African leadership role than his opportunist predecessor.

Covert1:

making Nigeria on a country to country basis outside the SADC his first place of visit since becoming President.

newafricaken254:
just saw a photo of Islamic state in west Africa using improvised armoured SVBIED during attacks,exactly like what we saw ISIS in iraq using against iraq army and militia

jln115:

Why though? why would France back BH IN Nigeria.....What do they have to gain?

jln115:

If BH was more active in Neighboring countries like Chad ect ect then you might have a point but BH originated within Nigeria?

jln115:

Why though? why would France back BH IN Nigeria.....What do they have to gain? If BH was more active in Neighboring countries like Chad ect ect then you might have a point but BH originated within Nigeria? I mean only 7% of the Chad Basin lies within Nigeria, of which none of that 7% contain any oil reserves as of now!

abiodunalasa:


A lot, Chief.
1. Dismantling and disorganizing a Country that as always been a threat to their Franco imperial grip on West Africa and Africa at large.
(Remember that Nigeria single handedly stood against them when they carried out Nuclear test in Northern Africa back in the 60s).

2. France does not have complete grip over the Economy of their former francophone colonies in West Africa as a result of Nigerian complete hegemony on ECOWAS.

3. Complete disintegration of Nigeria will favor French dominion in West Africa as any pieces of the disintegrated Nigeria cannot stand the surrounding French puppets alone (Chad, Cameroon, Niger, Benin).

4. Nigeria was and still been seen as a British empire (by virtue of common wealth), so breaking the Nigeria stronghold is a huge win for the French empire in the competition against British empire.

5. Military wise, Nigeria is superior to its French puppet neighbors combined... This is a huge threat to the Frenchs.

6. Lastly, arms sale, arms sale, arms sale !!! Crisis, war, prolonged insurgency is a very fertile land for arms dealers. Even if Nigeria is not buying arms from France, France is reaping dollars offs their puppets surrounding Nigeria in hope to contain BH from entering their own borders.

Now, get it right, France did not start Boko Haram in Nigeria
But by extension, they have helped it grow.
How ??

1. France made sure Camerron, Chad and Niger refused to work with Nigeria during the early days of BH... Not until 2015, When the then new President Buhari took the matter to United States before they agreed to form a Multi National Task Force with Nigeria.

2. How many times have France Airforce stopped Nigerian military from chasing fleeing BH in to Chad ?

3. How many times have BH raided Chad, Niger and Cameroon military outposts only for the BH to find little and no resistance and then cart away thousands of Arm and ammunition.
I remember when BH was suffering heavy defeat feom Nigeria and it look like they were going into extinction only for them to resuscitate because they found mouth watering catches of munitions in Chad out post or is it Cameroon (I cant remember).

France and Nigeria are latent enemies. C'est fini

jakeporeshenko:

I saw the video. It was shot last year, that was an attack on an army convoy, 5 soldiers died to VBIED attack that day and the technical with double cannons was captured.

Pic 1 screenshot from the video released by BHt this week

Pic 2 was released by the army last year

It’s the exact same truck seized from the Niger republic army, we even discussed it on this thread.

patches689:


What is this obsession among certain Nigerians with being perceived as a leader?

I am certain its big fish small pond syndrome.

abiodunalasa:


Which Country formed and chaired the UN committee against Apartheid in South Africa : NIGERIA

Which Country helped Angola out of Civil war and help them gain independence and ensuring that MPLA gain power : NIGERIA

Which Country helped Mozambique gain peace and progress by suppressing and destroying the South African backed insurgents : NIGERIA

Which Country helped Namibia gain independence and uprooting the devilish apartheid government installed by South Africa : Nigeria

Pls read on... I aint done yet !

Which country provided Joshua Nkomo and Robert Mugabe of Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) with money and Military training so they could collect their Country from the White occupants : NIGERIA

Now here is the interesting parts.. wait for it...

Which Country has its Military in several other African Countries even with all its own problem at home : NIGERIA

Which Country has the largest Entertainment industry in Africa and 3rd in the World : NIGERIA

Which Country has the largest Economy in Africa : NGERIA

Richest Black man on earth is from where : NIGERIA

Richest African woman(non state actor) is from where : NIGERIA


You see I don't like rubbing Nigerian leadership position on your face... But it seems you needed some quick reminder.

Dont worry, very soon, when the right leadership appears, Nigeria will lead all black folks to that promise land that we promised you all when we gain independence in 1960
Wait for it!

abiodunalasa:


Which Country formed and chaired the UN committee against Apartheid in South Africa : NIGERIA

Which Country helped Angola out of Civil war and help them gain independence and ensuring that MPLA gain power : NIGERIA

Which Country helped Mozambique gain peace and progress by suppressing and destroying the South African backed insurgents : NIGERIA

Which Country helped Namibia gain independence and uprooting the devilish apartheid government installed by South Africa : Nigeria

Pls read on... I aint done yet !

Which country provided Joshua Nkomo and Robert Mugabe of Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) with money and Military training so they could collect their Country from the White occupants : NIGERIA

Now here is the interesting parts.. wait for it...

Which Country has its Military in several other African Countries even with all its own problem at home : NIGERIA

Which Country has the largest Entertainment industry in Africa and 3rd in the World : NIGERIA

Which Country has the largest Economy in Africa : NGERIA

Richest Black man on earth is from where : NIGERIA

Richest African woman(non state actor) is from where : NIGERIA


You see I don't like rubbing Nigerian leadership position on your face... But it seems you needed some quick reminder.

Dont worry, very soon, when the right leadership appears, Nigeria will lead all black folks to that promise land that we promised you all when we gain independence in 1960
Wait for it!

ssaengine:


Why post this sh1t here? Because obviously someone is going to reply. Surely there's another thread for SA vs Nigeria (non military) debate.

abiodunalasa:


Lol
Why don't you ask your apartheid brother who quoted with shiits first

abiodunalasa:

Which Country helped Angola out of Civil war and help them gain independence and ensuring that MPLA gain power: NIGERIA

abiodunalasa:

Which Country helped Mozambique gain peace and progress by suppressing and destroying the South African backed insurgents : NIGERIA

abiodunalasa:

Which Country helped Namibia gain independence and uprooting the devilish apartheid government installed by South Africa : Nigeria

abiodunalasa:

Which country provided Joshua Nkomo and Robert Mugabe of Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) with money and Military training so they could collect their Country from the White occupants : NIGERIA

abiodunalasa:

Which Country has its Military in several other African Countries even with all its own problem at home : NIGERIA

abiodunalasa:

Which Country has the largest Economy in Africa : NGERIA

Covert1:




Clearly the southies here do not accept the peace deal proposed to prevent their extinction. So therefore no more truce/armistice. It is called off with immediate effect.

Southies have until 0000 hours to accept the terms of surrender. No more peace talks. Nigeria will unleash it's regional hegemony.

lionel4power:
only on this forum and defensenigeria blog that I keep hearing that France and Nigeria are enemy without any shred of proof


With all this war-mongering you guys are displaying, one gets the impression that France is an obstacle to the Nigerian regional ambition and a threat to nigerias national security which is truly falsehood of the highest order.

Let me make my own opinion,.......... although relationships were strained during the Nigerian Civil War as a result of French clandestine support for the biafran Rebellion. however, Franco-Nigerian relations have since significantly improved in the past decade. Bilateral relations are now marked by real cooperation.

Both countries have slowly accepted that each other’s roles in West Africa are complementary rather than competitive



France’s military presence that once seen as a formidable national security threat, has now become crucial both for Nigeria’s security and for broader regional stability. The 3000 French troops spread across five countries in the Sahel – as part of operation Barkhane – are what stand between Nigeria and the chaos in Libya. They are also what keeps Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb at bay. French intervention in the Central African Republic in December 2013 saved that country from collapsing into genocidal bloodshed.

The humanitarian and security crisis that would have spawned from uncontrolled chaos in CAR would have undoubtedly strained Cameroonian and Chadian resources to breaking point, and inevitably impacted on their ability to meaningfully take on Boko Haram.

When political crisis and civil war erupted in Cote d’Ivoire following Laurent Gbagbo’s refusal to step down after losing the 2010 Presidential election, Nigeria and France coordinated their response to the crisis – culminating in a jointly sponsored UN resolution calling on Gbagbo to hand over power.



Similarly in the Mali crisis, from all indications the strong preference in Paris was for the AU and the Nigerian-led ECOWAS to take the lead, with France playing a supporting role. France was eventually thrust into intervention by the rapidly deteriorating situation.

France assistance in setting up the May 2014 security summit facilitated the rapprochement between Nigeria, Cameroon and Chad, and also laid the foundation for the soon to be established anti-Boko Haram regional coalition.

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The French Development Agency (AFD) recently contributed $130 million to the establishment of the Development Bank of Nigeria. Since the opening of its Nigerian branch in 2008, AFD has so far committed about $694 million to various project in the country.

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In sub-Saharan Africa, Nigeria is France’s
largest trading partner (5.1 billion Euros in 2012) and the second largest export destination for its goods (value of exports was 1.3 billion Euros in 2012). French investments in Nigeria dwarf those in francophone West and Central Africa.

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Now since 2013 till date, French authorities and their Nigerian counterparts are always exploring the possibility of improving bilateral relations especially in the area of trade, commerce and defense. Here are examples i can come up with

In April 2013 - Olusegun Aganga, Nigeria’s Minister of Industry, Trade and Investment and Nicole Bricq, France’s Minister of Foreign Trade met to discuss a new strategic plan for Franco-Nigerian Economic Relationship... Which includes:

1) Determining one or more major iconic infrastructure projects on which the two countries could work .
2) Encouraging the participation of SMEs .
3) Instituting a regular state-to-state relationship with the creation (on the proposal of Minister Aganga) of a joint committee on trade and investment.

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Now official visits...

February 2014 - Official visit of the President of the French Republic in Nigeria

October 2014 - Visit of the French and German Ministers for Foreign Affairs

14 September 2015 - Official visit to France of the president of Nigeria

14 May 2016.- Official visit of President Hollande and Regional Security Summit

March 2016 - French Minister Ségolène Royal visits Abuja

2018 - French President visits Nigeria

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now what else do you want France to do for you guys before you stop this rumor peddling without proof? Is there any evidence to show that France is trying to undermine Nigeria?

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Relationship between France and Nigeria is at an all-time highest in history.

Im not trying to undermine anybodys work or efforts but Everyday i read defensenigeria blog and he keeps yapping about how French wants to destabilize Nigeria, how France is preparing for war this and that...

How? What is the evidence?

Every single day the same thing. If you keep saying the same thing all the time.. One day you'll start believing your own propaganda.


This paranoia is something else. Lets tell ourselves the truth, if France troops are not currently fighting the terrorists in the Sahel region who would do the fighting? Is it AU? Or Ecowas? Or is it Nigeria, mali, chad or Niger? Which country would do it.?France has been saving our ass since time immemorial and we're here forming victims

Nigerias problems is Nigerian-made made we should stop looking for who to put the blames upon.