afrodoc2:


I won't argue this too far, it was that Gago talk that scattered my dada. If you say in descending order Rui Costa, Riquelme, Valeron and Guti, then Gago WAY below them i won't debate it.

And you are right Riquelme couldn't defend and he was a stroller, but what a majestic stroller. I can just picture him with his bent posture, ambling around the pitch in a relaxed and arrogant manner.

What should bust your head is someone claiming Riquelme is better than Schweinsteiger.

It is only right we put Riquelme in his proper classification with Guti, Valeron, Gago etc

afrodoc2:


Banega?

Banega ko, Release Ega ni. Why not Mikel, your favourite player.

Banega can point to sustained achievements and sustained controlling of midfield. If Riquelme was strolling in midfield with old man Mascherano, maybe na 5-0 Argentina for don dey collect this world cup.

Nihilstjnr:


If we say football is the results based business we constantly hear it is, then Conte doesn't deserve the treatment he's gotten.

The board refused to back him in the market, and lumbered him with embeciles like Moses, Zappacosta, Yoko and Morata.

That being said, his Abrasive personality, and clashes in the dressing room had created such a toxic environment at Cobham. Something clearly had to give.

At least he's getting a tidy payoff. So he can wipe his tears with 50 quid notes when he cries into his morning cortado

Exactly his abrasive personality is a great turn off and he sulks so bad. I wonder who is the wife between him and his spouse.

Ibime:


Banega can point to sustained achievements and sustained controlling of midfield. If Riquelme was strolling in midfield with old man Mascherano, maybe na 5-0 Argentina for don dey collect this world cup.

The last time Riquelme strolled on and off a pitch in a World Cup he was leading Germany IN Germany after creating the assist for the goal. If Messi had Riquelme he would not need to play 10 as well as 9, it is really hard for a player to pass to himself on a consistent basis.

afrodoc2:


The last time Riquelme strolled on and off a pitch in a World Cup he was leading Germany IN Germany after creating the assist for the goal. If Messi had Riquelme he would not need to play 10 as well as 9, it is really hard for a player to pass to himself on a consistent basis.

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Watch Riquelme AND Mascherano in midfield together destroy a Brazil team with Ronaldinho, Robinho, Adriano, Kaka and Roberto Carlos.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCaE7hte5kg


P.S Thank God this is not Odonkor and Neuville.

afrodoc2:


The last time Riquelme strolled on and off a pitch in a World Cup he was leading Germany IN Germany after creating the assist for the goal. If Messi had Riquelme he would not need to play 10 as well as 9, it is really hard for a player to pass to himself on a consistent basis.

Who was playing for Germany then? David Odonkor, Borowski, Neuville, Bernd Schneider, Torsten Frings, Mertesacker, Metzelder and co abi? Germany 2006 team was rubbish! Only 2 top players in that team were Ballack and Lahm. Talk another thing.

Riquelme was chased out of both Barcelona and Villareal. Only season he can speak of is 2005/2006.

afrodoc2:


On your first 2 points i think you are spot on. In terms of the Argentine players, i think they have had an unusual run of bad luck in terms of coaching and the final make up of the squad and in some ways it even extends to today.

Take for example the 2002 team in which the coach persisted in playing through an aged Batistuta when you had younger players like Claudio Lopez, Kily Gonzales and Crespo in the squad. Then he also went picked an unbalanced squad with 4 or 5 playmakers (Ortega, Veron, Gallardo, Aimar) to the world cup cos they were the best players.

In 2006 the coach inexplicably took out Riquelme and Crespo in a match they were leading against Germany and left Messi on the bench and you know what happened next. That was a case of the coach blowing it, not the players.

2010 world cup was wasted by taking an alcoholic and junkie coach in Maradona who wasted a slot on the team on his aged Boca drinking companion Martin Palermo.

As an aside, do you notice how Argentina had too many playmakers about 15yrs ago and not enough strikers while now they have too many strikers and no playmakers.

Coaching is definitely a factor but considering how well they do at age grade level you start to wonder if them sef dey use football age like we do.

For 2002 I think it would have been tough to sit a National team icon like Batistuta but Crespo is the only guy I would have played ahead of him. I think Kily was a midfielder if na the Valencia Kily you dey talk. Lopez had a poor World cup. Overall they had a very good squad if you ask me because I can recall it was them and France that were the top 2 favorites going to that WC

For 2006 you might be right but Argentina's goal came from a setpiece in the first half. Riquelme's influence had waned in the second so I wouldn't blame the coach for taking out a luxury player like Riquelme when trying to defend a lead vs the home team. I agree he could have brought on Messi but Messi was only 18, there's no telling if he would have had an impact or not

We can agree on 2010. However when a team keeps falling on its arse even against inferior opposition like England and Sweden in 02 and Germany in 06 and 10 then you just can't rule out mental midgetry

Their problem is a weird one but I still feel they aren't the only country that deals with an imbalance in their squad of some sort

A40:

Coaching is definitely a factor but considering how well they do at age grade level you start to wonder if them sef dey use football age like we do.

For 2002 I think it would have been tough to sit a National team icon like Batistuta but Crespo is the only guy I would have played ahead of him. I think Kily was a midfielder if na the Valencia Kily you dey talk. Lopez had a poor World cup. Overall they had a very good squad if you ask me because I can recall it was them and France that were the top 2 favorites going to that WC

For 2006 you might be right but Argentina's goal came from a setpiece in the first half. Riquelme's influence had waned in the second so I wouldn't blame the coach for taking out a luxury player like Riquelme when trying to defend a lead vs the home team. I agree he could have brought on Messi but Messi was only 18, there's no telling if he would have had an impact or not

We can agree on 2010. However when a team keeps falling on its arse even against inferior opposition like England and Sweden in 02 and Germany in 06 and 10 then you just can't rule out mental midgetry

Their problem is a weird one but I still feel they aren't the only country that deals with an imbalance in their squad of some sort

They have been unlucky but you may be right to an extent too. The whole nation (including the players) has been wired to believe a single player will do a Maradona and win the cup singlehandedly. And every 4 years the real Maradona comes out to heap more pressure on the team.
The 02 to 10 teams were affected by coaching errors, now the team is just not good enough.

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Ibime:


Riquelme is a luxury player. Aimar was far more effective. Aimar can boast of 2 la ligas, Europa league, UCL final etc to which he was instrumental.

When you have that snail speed even all your dribbles and talent will be ineffective because the player you beat will still recover and catch up.

Riquelme has absolutely no desire to run or hustle on the pitch wants the ball to be delivered to him and everyone will be atching like mumu while he does his BS

I enjoyed Aimars game way more especially when he is sodomizing Patrick Viera and those Arsenal buffoons

A40:
Riquelme had a relatively short prime in Europe maybe 2 seasons or less, I think he balled more for Argentina than at club level

He stayed for too long at Argentina. Had he come to Europe at a younger age the European aspects of the game would have been a lot easier for him to imbibe. In terms of naturally gifted talent I'd even say he was better than Mendieta but he didn't come to Europe in time.

I also think that generation of Argentine players were mental midgets Aimar, Saviola, Riquelme

Riquelme cannot play modern football. At his peak, he will be like what Zidane or Maradona will be at 55yrs, loads of skill and brainwork, no speed or legs to carry him. Surely Maradona and Zidane will still have the skills in their brain to kill opponents but no movement

Those generation of Argentine disappointment I think Riquelme and D'Alessandro were the worst, Saviola na just running rabbit like Bojan. Na that Saviola come play for Barcelona and Madrid

Ibime:
What should bust your head is someone claiming Riquelme is better than Schweinsteiger.
It is only right we put Riquelme in his proper classification with Guti, Valeron, Gago etc

Gago, Javi Garcia, Drenthe, Gravesen, Woodgate, Michael Owen, Julio Baptista, Adebayor the generation of wastemen who were disgracing Madrid jersey post Zidane

afrodoc2:


They have been unlucky but you may be right to an extent too. The whole nation (including the players) has been wired to believe a single player will do a Maradona and win the cup singlehandedly. And every 4 years the real Maradona comes out to heap more pressure on the team.
The 02 to 10 teams were affected by coaching errors, now the team is just not good enough.

Argentine team is always unbalanced, with the attacking riches they have when you imagine in a world cup match players like Fazio, Mercado, Tagliafico, Acuna Enze Perez, Salvio, Meza and Cabalero were starting games

Look at these players take away the exotic sounding names these are not better than Omeruo and Shehu

ManBeast:
Manchester United Oloshos, Sorry I Mean Female Devils.




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dopeJemi:


Na whitey I go marry last last

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afrodoc2:


They have been unlucky but you may be right to an extent too. The whole nation (including the players) has been wired to believe a single player will do a Maradona and win the cup singlehandedly. And every 4 years the real Maradona comes out to heap more pressure on the team.
The 02 to 10 teams were affected by coaching errors, now the team is just not good enough.

This is largely true to an extent but this speaks to their mental midgetry as well. Remember 94? A washed up 34 yo Maradona got tossed out of the competition and they got beaten by Bulgaria and Romania.

Even with the coaching errors which IMO were minimal, especially in 02 and 06 they were too talented to fail that badly.

Defense - Ayala, Samuel, Sorin, Zanetti.

Midfield - Veron, Riquelme, Simeone, Aimar, Ortega

We all know about their attack.
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For me they were a bunch of bottlers tbvh

Hazardfan1:


So u no get plan for ur current babe

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raumdeuter:


Sane won OFFICIAL best something, what official award did Chicarito win

Apari himself, what's unofficial from burthisleaguedown organisers?. He even made the team of the season, what he never achieved in epl. Chicharito, an epl waste, had to experience the best of his career in burnthisleaguedown, where majority of defenders are cab drivers.

airmark:




Apari himself, what's unofficial from burthisleaguedown organisers?. He even made the team of the season, what he never achieved in epl. Chicharito, an epl waste, had to experience the best of his career in burnthisleaguedown, where majority of defenders are cab drivers.

See ikputu onu quoting wikipedia,

Now tell us who is the current Bundesliga idol and those numerous awards Chicharito won. Did they abolish those awards after he left?

Sane won PFA and I can give you about 5 PFA winners in the past

It's official.. The 2022 world cup will be held in November-December in Qatar
How will the Premier League and other major Euro leagues adjust to the new reality?
And why couldn't the Qataris deliver on their promise to build air-conditioned stadia for the tournament. Surely, they could also install industrial standing fans at the training sites for the players too.

raumdeuter:


[s]See ikputu onu quoting wikipedia,

Now tell us who is the current Bundesliga idol and those numerous awards Chicharito won. Did they abolish those awards after he left?[/s]

Sane won PFA and I can give you about 5 PFA winners in the past

Sane won PFA, PFA what apari omo yakuba? Chicharito never made epl team of the season for once, despite playing for 5 years. Miraculously he made it big in Germany and was idolised, within two years.

dopeJemi:


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raumdeuter:


Gago, Javi Garcia, Drenthe, Gravesen, Woodgate, Michael Owen, Julio Baptista, Adebayor the generation of wastemen who were disgracing Madrid jersey post Zidane

Gravesen actually played with Zidane at Real Madrid.


Owen didn't disgrace our Jersey. Owen left Real Madrid before Zidane. I watched Owen in Real Madrid, he wasn't given much playing time because of Raul. Anytime or most times he comes off the bench, he scores.

Adebayor didn't disgrace our Jersey. Mourinho brought him on loan and he did his part. He helped us a lot that season.


Gago, Woodgate the injury man, Drenthe, Gravesen were plain rubbish.

After Makalele left, we searched for DM for God knows how long. Gravasen, Gago, Diara, Emelson, etc. We got a good DM post Makalele era when Alonso came. Now we have Casemiro the tank.

chic2pimp:


I fit hook you up with some nice Polish Chics for my ends but your wahala go dey too much.

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raumdeuter:


Then you dont know or watch football, Baggio and Muller are playing the same area of the field that Hazard plays only that they are more productive than the shakushaku master

This is a goal from Muller and see where his starting position was



This is a goal from Baggio at the world cup and see where his starting position is

Few weeks ago while i was in Abidjan and I asked someone who has always followed the French league from time immemorial even though he is a barca fan that what logic is behind when a Bayern Munich fan who could support frank Ribery all this while and sing high praises of him but disparage the flawless works of hazard at chelsea and his response was this simple "hating on hazard" and I guess he was right cus evidence here says it all.
I remember vividly well at germany 2006 world cup, your Ribery blew up the chance to be the national hero 9mins into extra time against italy (airmark can help with the gif if you are in doubt) but these are some of the things you easily get unnecessary hard on if it were to be hazard forgetting you have an unproductive player in your team as well who you try to paint as flawless.

Now back to your useless gif above in your own word you said I quote "logical reasoning can be painful to the mind not built for it" I guess it was meant for you today based on the useless gif you show to prove hazard ,muller and baggio role are all the same in a team simple because they are all called attackers.

airmark:




Sane won PFA, PFA what apari omo yakuba? Chicharito never made epl team of the season for once, despite playing for 5 years. Miraculously he made it big in Germany and was idolised, within two years.

Ikputu onu

Sane won pfa awards last season.

You haven't told us the Bundesliga Masquerade that Chicharito won.

If players like Sane and Firmino worth little in Germany are leading the attacks in the EPL

popizaino:
Few weeks ago while i was in Abidjan and I asked someone who has always followed the French league from time immemorial even though he is a barca fan that what logic is behind when a Bayern Munich fan who could support frank Ribery all this while and sing high praises of him but disparage the flawless works of hazard at chelsea and his response was this simple "hating on hazard" and I guess he was right cus evidence here says it all.
I remember vividly well at germany 2006 world cup, your Ribery blew up the chance to be the national hero 9mins into extra time against italy (airmark can help with the gif if you are in doubt) but these are some of the things you easily get unnecessary hard on if it were to be hazard forgetting you have an unproductive player in your team as well who you try to paint as flawless.

Now back to your useless gif above in your own word you said I quote "logical reasoning can be painful to the mind not built for it" I guess it was meant for you today based on the useless gif you show to prove hazard ,muller and baggio role are all the same in a team simple because they are all called attackers.

When did I support Ribery all my life? For over 3yrs I have been campaigning for Ribery to leave Bayern because of his useless unproductive plays just like Hazard.

If Ribery is Hazards standard then let him show us at least his CL title and the number of assists posted by Ribery to win the CL which won him the best club player than season in the entire Europe. One of the few players that have stopped Messi and Ronaldo from winning it in the past 10yrs

The gif above is to show that you dont know much about football, to think Muller and Baggio led attacks but Hazard didn't is a very uninformed thought

This is coming within 24hrs of comparing a worthless Riquelme Boca junior and Villareal one season wonder to Schweinsteiger only shows you didnt watch them play and only read about them

Hazard has played 44 CL matches has 8 goals and 13 assists. By the time Ribery played his first 44 CL games he had 11 goals and 20 assists

So this is how useless Hidden Hazard has been

popizaino:
Few weeks ago while i was in Abidjan and I asked someone who has always followed the French league from time immemorial even though he is a barca fan that what logic is behind when a Bayern Munich fan who could support frank Ribery all this while and sing high praises of him but disparage the flawless works of hazard at chelsea and his response was this simple "hating on hazard" and I guess he was right cus evidence here says it all.
.

This is probably the most pointless beginning to a post ever.

You went to Abidjan, to ask a Barca fan, who follows French league, about Ribery and Hazard, neither of whom live in ivory coast, play in France or play for Barca.

83 words(yes I counted) wasted on worthless exposition, that did not advance your argument in any way ffs...

Bakayoko now needs to improve or else he'll be the one Sarri will be sending to go and buy cigarette

Nihilstjnr:
This is probably the most pointless beginning to a post ever.
You went to Abidjan, to ask a Barca fan, who follows French league, about Ribery and Hazard, neither of whom live in ivory coast, play in France or play for Barca.

83 words(yes I counted) wasted on worthless exposition, that did not advance your argument in any way ffs...

I wanted to tell him how I went to Croatia and met the the younger cousin of Gani Adams, who is an Enyimba fan and used to live in Sambisa , while he was eating Pounded Yam with his left hand and drinking 33 lager beer he said Hazard was overrated and only delusional people rate him

Now prove to me how the person you met improves your opinion vs the person I also met