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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:06am On Jul 17, 2018
Melvyn11:

Exactly bro. Owen was incredible as a teenager even more than mbappe and I dare say Messi. shame he burnt out before 26. most players who depend on speed usually burn out early and have constant knee injury.

Lmao. Thank God some of us watched Owen from the beginning of his career na like this the story of India vs Nigeria game start

At no point in Michael Owens entire career was he close to current Mbappe or even 20yr old messi.

Which stupid Owen

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 11:07am On Jul 17, 2018
A40:
I'm sure the likes of City, Dortmund and Juventus were also farmers. Come and tell us how many Champions League goals Michael Owen had scored at 19
How many champions league matches did owen play at that age sir. Owen at 18/19 was finishing joint top scorer of the golden boot in epl back to back. Please sit down.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 11:09am On Jul 17, 2018
diadem10:

Did you realise Mbappe had an average season at Psg, especially after Neymar who always took opposition's attention from other Psg's attackers got injured?
I repeat Mbappe can only operate in a counter attacking style.. In fact, comparing Lemar to him is even an insult to Lemar because Lemar has a better control on the ball than Mbappe who relied mostly on his pace.

Mbappe should thank his stars that he was the one who got to play the SS role for Monaco while Lemar got deployed on the left wing because the last time Lemar got to play similar SS for the France team, he got 2 goals and was the best on the pitch. Even though Lemar got deployed in the centre for Monaco last season, it was a depleted Monaco side and he had to play as an attacking midfielder for them because there wasn't Lemar on the wing to put in those gorgeous crosses.

I repeat I see no difference between Lemar and Mbappe style of play and who knows, Lemar may eventually be the better player because Lemar has better technique than Mbappe.
I'm sure you know something Didier Deschamps doesn't that's why Mbappe started every game and Kendrick sorry I mean Thomas Lemar did not play any role at all. Do you realize you had as much input in France winning the World Cup as Thomas Lemar?

Mbappe has shown in Neymar's absence in Monaco and France so failed argument there

Can't even be arsed about a Lemar whose numbers completely fell off a cliff after Mbappe left, Deschamps even preferred to use Matuidi and Tolisso pure CMs in his stead! That's how useless Lemar was.

How often was he deployed in the center? Less than half of his appearances so don't come and give us cold and fermented zobo!..

3 goals and 8 assists in over 2500mins of football and all I see is excuse on excuse on excuse

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 11:10am On Jul 17, 2018
Thomas goddamn Lemar to Mbappe? That's just the height
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 11:16am On Jul 17, 2018
Michael Owen and Ronaldo de Lima yes, but Thomas Lemar?
Come on, that's a bit much.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 11:17am On Jul 17, 2018
Melvyn11:

How many champions league matches did owen play at that age sir. Owen at 18/19 was finishing joint top scorer of the golden boot in epl back to back. Please sit down.
I don't care about what he was doing in the local EPL league. A league with Man United and 19 other plumbers. All I know is that Mbappe at 19 had scored 11 goals in the Champions League against the likes of Bayern, City, Dortmund, Juve and led his team to the league and World Cup title. If you can't show Owen's similar achievement then please make use of this recliner __________/

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 11:25am On Jul 17, 2018
Abeg which Michael Owen are we talking about
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 11:26am On Jul 17, 2018
But Deschamps sha, how can he bench Lemar and play Matuidi and Tolisso all because he wants to play defence tactics.

1 analyst here was doing swapping roles, Deschamps would have used Mbappe for Mbappe, Lemar for Lemar cheesy... shocked i know sound silly right, don't blame me it's that analyst that caused it and all this arguments. Pogba - Fabinho, Kante - Bakayoko, Greizmann - B.Silva, Giroud - Falcao.

P.S Owen was a boss at 19 (esp that his shot) not sure who is faster of the two him or Mbappe but I recall 19yr old Owen being better than a 19yr old Messi. ( Anelka 19>>>> Henry 19, Henry should not even be mentioned too much)
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 11:29am On Jul 17, 2018
raumdeuter:


Lmao. Thank God some of us watched Owen from the beginning of his career na like this the story of India vs Nigeria game start

At no point in Michael Owens entire career was he close to current Mbappe or even 20yr old messi.

Which stupid Owen
World Cup young player at 18
Epl Golden boot winner at 18/19 back to back.
Balon dor at 22 2nd youngest ever.

please name messi and mbappe personal achievement at that age I dare you. Thunder fire you if you call team achievement here

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diadem10: 11:33am On Jul 17, 2018
A40:
I'm sure you know something Didier Deschamps doesn't that's why Mbappe started every game and Kendrick sorry I mean Thomas Lemar did not play any role at all. Do you realize you had as much input in France winning the World Cup as Thomas Lemar?

Mbappe has shown in Neymar's absence in Monaco and France so failed argument there

Can't even be arsed about a Lemar whose numbers completely fell off a cliff after Mbappe left, Deschamps even preferred to use Matuidi and Tolisso pure CMs in his stead! That's how useless Lemar was.

How often was he deployed in the center? Less than half of his appearances so don't come and give us cold and fermented zobo!..

3 goals and 8 assists in over 2500mins of football and all I see is excuse on excuse on excuse
What are you saying? Mbappe is the new kid in town and the most expensive young player and you expected Deschamp to bench him for Lemar? Moreover, France don't have a left footed midfielder that could have played Bernando Silva's withdrawn role on the right wing. They had to make use of the left wing with Matuidi as their withdrawn wide midfielder while the far right wing had to go to a right footed player for punting in crosses with right foot and Mbappe fit that bill.

Btw, Mbappe played for an expensive worldclass Psg team yet got benched by the useless Di Maria at the end of the day whereas Lemar was playing for a depleted Monaco side that had lost Bernando, Mendy, Mbappe and Bakayoko (the bulldozer of the team) and you expected Lemar to be at his best for the team? He had to be moved from the left because there was no Bakayoko to cover that side.

You know what? I followed Monaco's preseason last season and I will tell you Mbappe was rubbish in all the friendlies played without the aforementioned players who already left for their new team, including Lemar who was out due to one reason or another. Mbappe was their only star player and was so rubbish that I kept wondering what people saw in him.

Don't misunderstand me, Mbappe is a talented young player but much of his play rely on pace but the question is what if he lose this pace like Owen did? What next for him? The point is the coach had better start developing him as a forward because if he continues this way, there would only be another Rooney who became jack of all trade after losing his speed that made him special and worse of all, he had been deployed everywhere except the centre forward even when he had the skillset for it, as shown in 2010 but then it was too late.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 11:34am On Jul 17, 2018
Melvyn11:

Bwhahahahhaha tipped for the future lol. Somebody already won balon dor at 22 and your are here spewing trash up and down SMH. Your logic is dumb I swear. Mbappe is a World Cup winner so he is better than Owen. What a stupid logic
You're a kakpipe! A complete douchegoblin. Is Mbappe 22 yet? Was Messi and Cristiano in the picture when Owen won the European player of the year? Without a doubt you're the most obtuse neanderthal this forum has ever seen.

Mbappe 4 goals WC Winner.
Owen 2 goals 2nd round exit

Melvyn11: bUT mIChaEL oWEn wON tHE baLON d'OR at 22.

A-40:

Mbappe shines in the CL, shines at the World Cup but this country-dumb a$shat wants us to rate Owen better purely on the EPL league. Bilewu

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 11:36am On Jul 17, 2018
A40:
I don't care about what he was doing in the local EPL league. A league with Man United and 19 other plumbers. All I know is that Mbappe at 19 had scored 11 goals in the Champions League against the likes of Bayern, City, Dortmund, Juve and led his team to the league and World Cup title. If you can't show Owen's similar achievement then please make use of this recliner __________/
blah blah blah. All I see is team achievement nothing about his personal achievement. Name his personal achievement or sit down

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 11:41am On Jul 17, 2018
Melvyn11:

blah blah blah. All I see is team achievement nothing about his personal achievement. Name his personal achievement or sit down
Shut up chale! An 18 year old led his team in scoring in the CL, joint top scorer in the World Cup for country at 19 and scored 26 goals despite playing fewer minutes than Falcao and you're busy frothing in the mouth like a camel in heat
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:46am On Jul 17, 2018
Melvyn11:

World Cup young player at 18
Epl Golden boot winner at 18/19 back to back.
Balon dor at 22 2nd youngest ever.

please name messi and mbappe personal achievement at that age I dare you. Thunder fire you if you call team achievement here

World cup young player no be the sane thing Podolski and Landon donovan win.

League highest goal scorer who werethe great strikers in the league then.

Mbappe at that age was not painting a local league
Mbappe was scoring at the world cup double what Owen did, by age 20, lets count Mbappe CL goals till date 20yrs and compare with owen entire career CL goals till he retired.

At that age messi was already the best player and highest goal scorer in the world

Muller was already top scorer at the world cup

None of these are team achievements, none of these were won by votes

All these are personal goals at the biggest stage of club or national team football
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 11:46am On Jul 17, 2018
A40:
You're a kakpipe! A complete douchegoblin. Is Mbappe 22 yet? Was Messi and Cristiano in the picture when Owen won the European player of the year? Without a doubt you're the most obtuse neanderthal this forum has ever seen.

Mbappe 4 goals WC Winner.
Owen 2 goals 2nd round exit

Melvyn11: bUT mIChaEL oWEn wON tHE baLON d'OR at 22.

A-40:

Mbappe shines in the CL, shines at the World Cup but this country-dumb a$shat wants us to rate Owen better purely on the EPL league. Bilewu


No he won it when there where average players like Zinedine Zidane, Ronaldo, Luis Figo and Rivaldo mtcheew. Mbappe has 0 champions league medal so I don't give a feck if he scored 30goals

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 11:50am On Jul 17, 2018
A40:
Shut up chale! An 18 year old led his team in scoring in the CL, joint top scorer in the World Cup for country at 19 and scored 26 goals despite playing fewer minutes than Falcao and you're busy frothing in the mouth like a camel in heat
Am still waiting for his personal achievement bros. An 18 years old Owen was winning golden boot back to back in his first full 2 seasons at a club while mbappe has none playing for a league full of farmers.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:51am On Jul 17, 2018
Melvyn11:


No he won it when there where average players like Zinedine Zidane, Ronaldo, Luis Figo and Rivaldo mtcheew. Mbappe has 0 champions league medal so I don't give a feck if he scored 30goals


Champions league medal is now individual achievement not the goals he scored with his boot

Mendy sef get world cup medal na and epl medal
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:53am On Jul 17, 2018
Melvyn11:

Am still waiting for his personal achievement bros. An 18 years old Owen was winning golden boot back to back in his first full 2 seasons at a club while mbappe has none playing for a league full of farmers.

10 champions league goals, 4 world cup goals

Now tell us what Owen personal achievements are at the biggest stage of football that are not won by voting
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 11:53am On Jul 17, 2018
Melvyn11:


No he won it when there where average players like Zinedine Zidane, Ronaldo, Luis Figo and Rivaldo mtcheew. Mbappe has 0 champions league medal so I don't give a feck if he scored 30goals

Add up their Balon D'ors and lets see if it would equal that of Messi and Ronaldo. Award won off the back of a Mickey Mouse treble. Lmaooo.

But he has a World Cup medal and Owen don't so your feck is not needed bruv
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:55am On Jul 17, 2018
Melvyn11:

Owen had an amazing World Cup in 1998 same as mbappe had now. Not his fault that England didn't win it. Your claimed mbappe was the best teenager since r9 which is bullocks. Owen was miles better mbappe as a Teenager and was a ballon dor winner at 22 youngest after r9 . Hell Rooney at 18 was even better. A world cup medal doesn't make Giroud better than Suarez

Do you know the difference between Balon D'or in 2001 and now?

Balon D'or then was not the WPOTY that Balon D'or is now. Then Balon D'or was European Player of the year, voted for by French football magazine, while FIFA WPOTY was the main koko. Balon D'or then was for losers like Owen, Shevchenko etc while Ronaldo, Zidane and Figo win the real thing.

Owen was never better than Mbappe, not even close. Owen vs Mbappe is like Owen vs Henry in those days.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 11:56am On Jul 17, 2018
Melvyn11:

Am still waiting for his personal achievement bros. An 18 years old Owen was winning golden boot back to back in his first full 2 seasons at a club while mbappe has none playing for a league full of farmers.
I'm also waiting for you to show me what Owen achieved outside the Mickey mouse premier league. Any league you only need 18 goals to win its Golden Boot is as useless as NPFL
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 11:56am On Jul 17, 2018
raumdeuter:


World cup young player no be the sane thing Podolski and Landon donovan win.

League highest goal scorer who werethe great strikers in the league then.

Mbappe at that age was not painting a local league
Mbappe was scoring at the world cup double what Owen did, by age 20, lets count Mbappe CL goals till date 20yrs and compare with owen entire career CL goals till he retired.

At that age messi was already the best player and highest goal scorer in the world

Muller was already top scorer at the world cup

None of these are team achievements, none of these were won by votes

All these are personal goals at the biggest stage of club or national team football
was the golden boot he won back to back also team achievement or by votes sir. You can lie sir. Messi at 19 had just 1 champions league goal and ronaldo had none bullocks. Messi at 19 was a bench warmer at Barca fact only.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:57am On Jul 17, 2018
Ibime:


Do you know the difference between Balon D'or in 2001 and now?

Balon D'or then was not the WPOTY that Balon D'or is now. Then Balon D'or was European Player of the year, voted for by French football magazine, while FIFA WPOTY was the main koko. Balon D'or then was for losers like Owen, Shevchenko etc while Ronaldo, Zidane and Figo win the real thing.

Owen was never better than Mbappe, not even close. Owen vs Mbappe is like Owen vs Henry in those days.

Add Nedved to the list of winners

Thank God say we watched Michael Owen o. Imagine person say Owen better pass Mbappe and messi at 20
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 11:59am On Jul 17, 2018
A40:
I'm also waiting for you to show me what Owen achieved outside the Mickey mouse premier league. Any league you only need 18 goals to win its Golden Boot is as useless as NPFL
Ballon d'or 2001. Or is that another polling booth award?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:00pm On Jul 17, 2018
Melvyn11:

was the golden boot he won back to back also team achievement or by votes sir. You can lie sir. Messi at 19 had just 1 champions league goal and ronaldo had none bullocks. Messi at 19 was a bench warmer at Barca fact only.

Golden boot in the local league, tell us how many CL goals and world cup goals Owen scored by 20 and over his entire career
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:01pm On Jul 17, 2018
Unlimited22:

Ballon d'or 2001. Or is that another polling booth award?

How is balon dor chosen
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 12:01pm On Jul 17, 2018
Ibime:


Do you know the difference between Balon D'or in 2001 and now?

Balon D'or then was not the WPOTY that Balon D'or is now. Then Balon D'or was European Player of the year, voted for by French football magazine, while FIFA WPOTY was the main koko. Balon D'or then was for losers like Owen, Shevchenko etc while Ronaldo, Zidane and Figo win the real thing.

Owen was never better than Mbappe, not even close. Owen vs Mbappe is like Owen vs Henry in those days.
This is true though. The Ballon d'or and FIFA WPOTY were distinct awards.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 12:02pm On Jul 17, 2018
raumdeuter:


How is balon dor chosen
Don't bother, I'm not about to have that argument now. He was the most popular footballer in 2001, I know.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:03pm On Jul 17, 2018
Unlimited22:

Don't bother, I'm not about to have that argument now. He was the most popular footballer in 2001, I know.

This is what low IQ causes. You make a statement you can't backup
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 12:05pm On Jul 17, 2018
raumdeuter:


This is what low IQ causes. You make a statement you can't backup
I know I have low IQ. I am just not about to argue.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 12:07pm On Jul 17, 2018
raumdeuter:


Golden boot in the local league, tell us how many CL goals and world cup goals Owen scored by 20 and over his entire career
Sir how many players in the whole of Europe can boost of golden boot back to back at the age of 18 to 19. I dare you to call 2. Owen scored 9 goals in 16 matches for Liverpool. For a teenager that is A+. Same thing you are hyping mbappe for.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 12:10pm On Jul 17, 2018
A40:
I'm also waiting for you to show me what Owen achieved outside the Mickey mouse premier league. Any league you only need 18 goals to win its Golden Boot is as useless as NPFL
mbappe only personal achievement in international scene is World Cup young player of the tournament which owen also won. What personal achievement does mbappe have again?

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