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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Addy9: 8:18pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Hello house, thumbs up for the tremendous work being done here on daily basis by the gurus. Please I wish to know if it’s possible for a US university to send an applicant’s transcript or certificate to WES for evaluation? Thanks in anticipation. |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by lasthero: 8:35pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Addy9: a US university transcript doesn't require Wes evaluation. If you mean that a university should forward your Nigerian transcript to another school, then it's not possible for two reasons. 1. Your school of origination is the one to send your transcript to Wes, because Wes will still contact /reply your school for second verification. 2. Any documents sent to 99.99% of USA universities becomes their property and can't be transferred. 1 Like |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by TheGrandChemist(m): 8:37pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
![]() ![]() ![]() Visa approved 3rd of July, 2018. Lagos Consulate. My interview transcript: ![]() ![]() ![]() After highlighting from my Camry (LoL. I mean a Uber ride o) at the US embassy, I was motioned to come in for a check by a security officer. After the check was completed, he explained that a phone won't be allowed into the consulate. I had this knowledge even before he said this, but I had to come along with my phone because of the Uber app. Well, I was granted access into the consulate after giving the security officer what he requested for (N1,000 to help secure my phone). ![]() Well, after progressing through that stage, another check was done on us by some security officers too, to confirm that we are not in possession of the prohibited items mentioned. On completion of that, we were addressed by a female consulate officer and were told to arrange ourselves in two rows; first row was for immigrant visa, and the second row for non-immigrant visa. (while all these transpired, we were still outside the consulate). We were then ushered into the consulate. In the consulate, another security check was done. This time, we were told to unhook our belts and place in a tray. The tray contained our belts and our documents; the trays were taken past a security check machine to check for any suspicious object. When the checks were completed, we retrieved our belts and documents. We were then ushered into another office for documents verification. When that was completed, we progressed into the next stage, which is the biometrics, where we had to do our fingerprints. And here comes the next stage, which happens to be the most crucial stage; the interview proper - The Judgement Day (LoL). The atmosphere was pretty tensed, seeing applicants receiving blue papers made matter even worse. At some point, I was getting scared, but I had to summon courage based on Edo boy wey I be. There was a guy who I even thought would have his visa approved; Lo and behold, he was denied, even after all his elaborate explanation. The guy already has a master's degree, but was going for another master's degree in the USA. There was another man who works with MTN Nigeria as a site engineer, but wanted to go for a master's degree in the USA. The guy did well to answer the questions thrown to him alas, he was still denied. At this point, I was scared to the bones. While I was standing there waiting for my turn I witnessed countless interviews ....And out of those interviews, I only noticed 3 approvals ( one was an elderly woman approved by a white American man at window 2. The other was a lady going for her master's degree approved by a white American woman at window 6. The other was a young man approved by a man at window 4). Well, I happened to be interviewed by a black American woman ( chubby and darker than the black American woman at window 7) at window 5. Well, to my interview proper: The black American woman at window 5 motioned me to step forward. I advanced forward immediately. VO: Good morning (before I could say good morning, she greeted first). Me: Good morning, ma'am. VO: Pass me your passport and I-20. Me: I passed the requested documents. VO: How did you hear about this school? Me: I first read about it on some educational magazines. However, I didn't stop there, I had to do an extensive research on it using websites like usnews.com and thegradcafe (while I was saying usnews.com she joined me in saying 'oh you came accross it using educational websites!', and I responded to her in the affirmative). VO: How many other schools did you apply to, and name them? Me: 4 other schools. I was naming them as e dey hot, but she quickly jumped in by saying 'Hold on. Take it slowly'. I started again, and named all the schools while she typed, but this time, I did it slowly as she requested (Georgia State University, Ohio University, Louisiana State University and Oregon State University). VO: What's your highest qualification? Me: Bachelor of Science, Chemistry. VO: When did you graduate? Me: I graduated February 2012. VO: So, what have you been doing since then? Me: I went for a compulsory National Youth Service Scheme. After that I worked in XYZ Table Water Industry for 1 year as a quality control officer/production manager. I then proceeded from there to my current organization where I work as a billing officer. VO: What is the name of the organization you currently work for? Me: XYZ Electricity Distribution Company VO: So, it means that your total work experience doesn't have any connection with your course of study ( She said this with her eyebrows raised and a weird look on her face.)? Me: I quickly read her body language, and I knew that this woman wan change am for me o. For the first time, I thought to myself "Na so my village people wan take win this war?" . So I quickly responded, "that's not exactly the case ma'am". Like I said, I have worked as a quality control officer at XYZ Table Water Industry (While I was still talking, she realised this and quickly corrected herself by saying 'oh, you were once a quality control officer, I see') and this is related to Chemistry in every way. VO: how did your course of study helped you ... muttering.. muttering.... Me: Ma'am, I didn't get you clearly. VO: She repeated the question again, but I still didn't hear her clearly. Me: I'm sorry ma'am, I still didn't get you well. VO: This time around she then spoke up louder than before, and I heard her correctly. The question was, how did your course of study helped you in your previous work experience? Me: I responded, 'oh, my course of study Chemistry, has a branch known as Analytical Chemistry. Analytical Chemistry deals with the qualitative and quantitative analysis of compounds, which of course deals with the determination of impurities in substances and as well as pH level when necessary. I was able to use this knowledge to determine the presence of impurities and pH level of water produced prior and after production as a quality control officer at XYZ table water industry. VO: She nodded her head suggesting she's impressed with my response. She continued by asking another question: Who is paying for your tuition? Me: I was offered a full tuition waiver, and a graduate assistant position worth BE,000 USD annually. VO: But I can't see a full tuition waiver on your I-20. I can only see BE,000USD for an on campus job....still muttering some words. Me: While she was muttering, I was searching for a document showing proof of my full funding in the documents in my possession. She noticed I was trying to reach out for a document, then she responded, 'don't worry, I don't need any other documents from you'. At this time, she realized I got a full tuition waiver after taking a sternly good look at the I-20. VO: What is your on-campus job about? Me: It's a graduate assistantship position where I would work as a teaching assistant in the first semester, and then apply for a research assistantship position in the second semester if I choose to. VO: She nodded her head in affirmative. VO: What will this degree do for you? Me: I have a concrete plan, and that is to pick up a lecturing job at my Alma mater on completion of my PhD program come Fall 2023.... I was about adding more points when she interrupted me... VO: What is the name of your Alma Mater Me: The university of Benin.... I continued my conversation by adding that I have established a strong connection with a professor in my Alma mater who happened to be my undergraduate supervisor, and he has assured me that I will have a strong edge over other applicants by the time I am done with my PhD at Brigham Young University. I will also love to work as a research consultant for multinational organizations like shell and Chevron while I lecture in the university. VO: In response to my reply she nodded her head again. VO: Are you married? Me: No, I am not married. VO: Engaged? Me: Not at all. VO: Have you traveled out of the country at any time? Me: No, I have never had any reason to travel out of the country until now. VO: Then she typed for some seconds, and said those sweet words. I will be approving your visa.... Congratulations... Bla bla bla. I was trying to get the other things she was saying, but I couldn't get her clearly at this point. I only heard that you will be notified when your passport is ready for pick up. LoL. I think I also heard her say something about keeping my I-20 safe... Bla bla bla. LoL. I couldn't believe it at first, because the way she was asking me questions looked like she was finding a fault in my application so as to use that to deny me. I almost gave up and was like, 'abeg do your worst, I don tire jare'. To God be praised. I walked out majestically while still trying to curtail the joy within me. I almost got myself imploded because the joy within me was massive and was ready to come out. LoL Cheers!!! 53 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Addy9: 8:46pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Thank you very much for your response. It means the certificate sent to a US school can’t be sent out to Wes for evaluation by the school in question? |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by royalimage: 9:12pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
i was at america embassy jan this year and was denied with my family and i have reapply again and my interview is fast approaching but i need a closer date if any can assist me i have 2kids and i discover that reason why we where not given was because of tiles my wife was as well a Manager in same company where am the CEO so with this i have to get her a state government job.. possible suggestion and advice needed. @next month interview needed ASAP. |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Ubah1(m): 9:24pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
TheGrandChemist: Am happy you overcame this lady and the PhD program you were going for really helped. I hardly see PhD denial. The woman can drill someone and will keep asking you questions till she finds a fault to deny the person. Really happy for you. Congrats and may your journey be blessed |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by TheGrandChemist(m): 9:42pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Ubah1: LoL. My guy, I tire o. My village people almost won that battle ![]() ![]() ![]() While I was on the queue waiting for my turn, I only asked God for an interview with anyone who's gonna approve my visa (White American or Black American, regardless). 3 Likes |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Ubah1(m): 9:44pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
TheGrandChemist: Congrats again. Atleast I have seen someone that overcame her. She is good in questions and doing her job well. But we Nigerians don't like that ![]() 1 Like |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by sam4jesuseva(m): 9:55pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
This is great. I pray I get a date close like this by thse time my I-20 is delivered on Thursday. Class start August 20th lasthero: |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by LagosismyHome(f): 10:01pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
TheGrandChemist: after all the trouble to get admission and funding , no way world ![]() ![]() ![]() congrats ....God bless your new journey 3 Likes |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by TheGrandChemist(m): 10:11pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
LagosismyHome: Hahaha. Many thanks, ma'am. ![]() |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by NefT: 10:23pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
TheGrandChemist: Please kindly share your educational profile which will likely help others when making decision on schools to apply for funded offer.. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by NefT: 10:29pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Ubah1:I don't quite agree with you. Interviewer shouldn't be looking for one reason to deny you but many reasons not to deny you and that is the approach of the simple VOs. However, those blacks are trying too hard to prove a point to their superiors that they are not racially bias and hence their tough approach. I may be wrong, it is just an opinion. 1 Like |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Ubah1(m): 11:03pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
NefT: We are talking about the black v.o here and not all the V.Os. many V.O will just approve you just by liking the school you are going to. This particular black v.o can ask question as if she is looking for where you will fumble. So don't get me wrong 4 Likes |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Sirtenburg(m): 11:11pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
[quote author=Ubah1 post=69476110] many V.O will just approve you just by liking the school you are going to. Please can you clarify me on this?.. do they like the school by knowing about the school or by the way you paint the school well? |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by jamoyakz: 11:16pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
jeffchulo:I believe anyone who has been banned will be informed about it. most times we are inconsistent with what we fill which is detrimental. I think a visa officer gave a lucid explanation kindly check the link below https://www.nairaland.com/1792662/u.s-non-immigrant-visas-listening/218#63334566 |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Ubah1(m): 11:28pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
[quote author=Sirtenburg post=69476293][/quote] Like If you get admission to MIT and maybe with full funding. A V.O that loves the school may ask you one or two questions and approve your visa. It all depends on V.O, another might drill you like the black chubby v.o at lagos comsulate ![]() |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Ubah1(m): 11:31pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
jeffchulo: 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Sirtenburg(m): 11:40pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Sirtenburg: I need a response please.. I refuse to be a failure this time around |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by jamoyakz: 11:42pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Ubah1:the truth of the better is that we blacks are our own nemesis... even in US a white man or lady is bound to be more useful to you than a black person even your fellow Nigerian. I'm not trying to be a racist but that's the bitter truth 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by jamoyakz: 11:46pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Sirtenburg:did you take any standardized tests? why don't you have two to three salient points in why this school and what will this degree do for you, so that you can easily build on them without necessary cramming. when you cram you tend to forget especially under tension PS don't forget God factor (na em dey give visa ) and be confident when speaking 2 Likes |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Ubah1(m): 11:51pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
jamoyakz: Am not against God factor tho as one can be favoured and not be asked much questions before getting visa but we shouldn't capitalise on that. That's the mistake many people do, they pray and pray without doing anything to help their application. Do your best and allow favour to crown it up |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by jamoyakz: 11:56pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Ubah1:Yea right that was why I asked if he took standardized tests (some times that could be the decided ), plus I seen alot of peeps in here writing long epistle (na just two to three minutes interview ). when you cram you tend to mk mistakes. also sometimes those VO might not be in the right frame of mind and might also affect their decision. that was why I stated God factor last after we have done our best |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Magma012: 12:13am On Jul 18, 2018 |
thinking of going to the US for masters or Germany, please can the gurus kindly weigh my options for me so as for me to know whr to kick start from. thanks in anticipation |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by OluDare01(m): 12:22am On Jul 18, 2018 |
Congratulations, TheGrandChemist! Welcome to America ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Ovitbaby(f): 12:31am On Jul 18, 2018 |
Hello all. Please comment on my proposed transcript.I will be going in for my interview in a few days from now. MY PROPOSED TRANSCRIPT VO-WHY ARE YOU GOING TO THE US? Me-I will be going to the US to pursue my master’s degree in Applied statistics and decisions analytics in Western Illinois University. VO-Why the US? ME-US universities are known to be the best in the world and also they are offer excellent Research opportunities.Moreso, a degree earned from a US university is of high recognition back here in Nigeria. VO-What is your highest qualification? ME-BSC Business Administration. VO-What is your intended course? ME-I will be studying masters in Applied statistics and decisions analytics. VO-Why did you choose this course? ME- I chose to study Applied statistics and decision analytics because data analyst with a top notch education from US are in high demand in Nigeria presently. This is why reputable firms in Nigeria still source this services abroad. So, the knowledge and skills gained from this study will be contributory and certainly help me fill this gap... VO-What would this degree do for you? ME- This degree will sharpen my quantitative an analytical skills which is highly sought after in job market.Also,I would have an opportunity to learn how to use statistical software to analyze data which is very key in organizations. VO_Why the change of major? Me-Statistics is a branch of business administration. A manager needs statistics to make informed decisions. VO-How did you get to know about this school? ME-I streamlined my search using google and US news to check for courses that aligned with my career interest. I was able to find 3 schools. But I became biased in picking WIU,due to the course curriculum. VO-Why this school? ME-I made enquiries of different schools and got feedback from almost if not all.However,I was very much impressed with the research work of Prof.Man Kaising who dwells on price discovery in the US treasury market. This caught my fancy as it is in line with my current job and I know the key role price plays in making critical business decisions in Nigeria. The course will also give avail me the opportunity to have a firm grasp and use of statistical tools and analytical skills to project and determine the success of a business or any business I put my Midas touch on. VO-What are your study plans. ME-I will be studying a 36 semester hours curriculum which is divided into 15 semester hour of core course,6 semester hour of electives and 15 semester hours from either thesis or the capstone courses. VO-Why were you refused visa? Me-I felt the last time I was not confident enough to answer questions due to my nervousness. But now I am more confident and not nervous. VO-What has changed from your last application? ME-I am more confident to answer questions. VO_What are your Future plans? ME-I will be coming back to Nigeria with the expertise I have gotten from this degree. I will be able to apply for more competitive positions when am back in Nigeria. I have established relationship and made good contacts in the IT industry, I am very confident that lots of opportunities will await me with this degree, VO-Who is your sponsor and what she do? Me-My sister is my sponsor. VO-Why would your sister want to sponsor you? ME=My dad trained her back then and proceeds of my late dads property was used to set up my sisters clinic, which is flourishing now. It was agreed by my family and she accepted to sponsor my education. VO-what do you currently do and what is your responsibilities. ME-I work with a Technology distributions company. I work as a business development executive. I generate sales. Advice partners on the Right specification of products to buy. I escalate issues and carry out business intelligence. I inform partners of new arrival of products. Send quote to partners. Supervise my team members. I distribute our pricelist to partners. VO-Did you write any standardized test? ME-yes, TOEFL. VO-When does your program start? ME-13th of August 2018. VO-List the course you will be taking? Me-Introduction to mathematical statistics, Analysis of variance, applied statistical method, applied Data mining for business decision making, statistical software for data management and decision Making. VO-Are you married? ME-No. VO-Have you travelled out of Nigeria? Me-I have never had a need until now. VO-How many schools did you apply to? Me-Three schools. VO-Name them? Me-Western Illinois University, University of South Dakota, University of Dallas. VO-what is common among these schools. Me-WIU has a student to faculty ratio of 15:1,USD -18:1 and UD-11:1.They are have a condusive learning environment. VO-What is the relationship between all these schools? ME-They are research institutions with rigorous mentored faculty research facilities to enhance learning for graduate students and has a ratio of student to faculty of .WIU has a student to faculty ratio of 15:1,USD -18:1 and UD-11:1.They are have a conducive learning environment. Thank you. |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Ajibade105(m): 1:57am On Jul 18, 2018 |
I don't think we have a weighing scale on this forum. If anyone has a spring balance, abeg make una help am weigh his/her option ![]() ![]() ![]() Magma012: 2 Likes |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Ajibade105(m): 2:04am On Jul 18, 2018 |
@Ovitbaby, TOEFL no be standardized test... I think the reason for your refusal was; there's no correlation/relationship between your BS and your proposed/preferred MS program. You need to convince the VO more this time around. Success Ahead in your next visa interview. |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by kfrosh: 2:49am On Jul 18, 2018 |
I used to think we take this God factor too serious until I knew otherwise. Like someone posted here before, pray as if you never prepared and crazily prepare as if there's no God. You may say all the right things, application perfect and still get denied but when God favors you, the rest is history. Plus God is not a magician that will help you when you've not prepared well enough. Ubah1: 3 Likes |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Ubah1(m): 5:41am On Jul 18, 2018 |
Ajibade105: Toefl is a standardized test please |
Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Sorelee(m): 5:55am On Jul 18, 2018 |
I insist that TOEFL Is a standardized test it is written boldly on the site as a standardized test for non English Natives has a Nigerian she is not a English native And before you come back here to start arguing unnecessary like other people before you this was an interview done recently here by a member of this forum his moniker is whyqueu Ajibade105:
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Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 13 by Sorelee(m): 6:08am On Jul 18, 2018 |
Ovitbaby: The above bolded is not strong enough you can do better VO-How did you get to know about this school? ME-I streamlined my search using google and US news to check for courses that aligned with my career interest. I was able to find 3 schools. But I became biased in picking WIU,due to the course curriculum. VO-Why this school? ME-I made enquiries of different schools and got feedback from almost if not all.However,I was very much impressed with the research work of Prof.Man Kaising who dwells on price discovery in the US treasury market. This caught my fancy as it is in line with my current job and I know the key role price plays in making critical business decisions in Nigeria. The course will also give avail me the opportunity to have a firm grasp and use of statistical tools and analytical skills to project and determine the success of a business or any business I put my Midas touch on. VO-What are your study plans. ME-I will be studying a 36 semester hours curriculum which is divided into 15 semester hour of core course,6 semester hour of electives and 15 semester hours from either thesis or the capstone courses. VO-Why were you refused visa? Me-I felt the last time I was not confident enough to answer questions due to my nervousness. But now I am more confident and not nervous. VO-What has changed from your last application? ME-I am more confident to answer questions. VO_What are your Future plans? ME-I will be coming back to Nigeria with the expertise I have gotten from this degree. I will be able to apply for more competitive positions when am back in Nigeria. I have established relationship and made good contacts in the IT industry, I am very confident that lots of opportunities will await me with this degree, VO-Who is your sponsor and what she do? Me-My sister is my sponsor. VO-Why would your sister want to sponsor you? ME=My dad trained her back then and proceeds of my late dads property was used to set up my sisters clinic, which is flourishing now. It was agreed by my family and she accepted to sponsor my education. VO-what do you currently do and what is your responsibilities. ME-I work with a Technology distributions company. I work as a business development executive. I generate sales. Advice partners on the Right specification of products to buy. I escalate issues and carry out business intelligence. I inform partners of new arrival of products. Send quote to partners. Supervise my team members. I distribute our pricelist to partners. VO-Did you write any standardized test? ME-yes, TOEFL. VO-When does your program start? ME-13th of August 2018. VO-List the course you will be taking? Me-Introduction to mathematical statistics, Analysis of variance, applied statistical method, applied Data mining for business decision making, statistical software for data management and decision Making. VO-Are you married? ME-No. VO-Have you travelled out of Nigeria? Me-I have never had a need until now. VO-How many schools did you apply to? Me-Three schools. VO-Name them? Me-Western Illinois University, University of South Dakota, University of Dallas. VO-what is common among these schools. Me-WIU has a student to faculty ratio of 15:1,USD -18:1 and UD-11:1.They are have a condusive learning environment. VO-What is the relationship between all these schools? ME-They are research institutions with rigorous mentored faculty research facilities to enhance learning for graduate students and has a ratio of student to faculty of .WIU has a student to faculty ratio of 15:1,USD -18:1 and UD-11:1.They are have a conducive learning environment. [/quote] The above bolded in a simple sentence. they all have small size student to faculty ratio. Interview can be subjective but let me say something today for other future applicants that are working, and might gain from it. It impress most VOS to see that aside that you have a sponsor who is willing to spend millions on you, you have also been able to save up some money for your education depending on how long you have been working tho. You see, it's your own very certificate and ambition not your sisters, brother, uncle or parent it shows how fully committed and determine you are 1 Like 1 Share |
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