HomeOfMe:
That is one of the reasons power situation has not changed because people have several alternatives like solar,inverter and generator. The day I visited my brother at Abujai was watching my favorite tv program,suddenly the logo just went off for about five seconds and came back again. I asked him what happened to the light,he said that nepa just took the light and automatically came on. People like him won't even bother to say he wants to go and protests on the streets for lack of electricity because he has several alternatives.

Good point.

But your brother is not doing anything wrong. It is going to take time to fix power in this country, and in the meantime,people still have to live and do things.

Ovamboland:
These DISCOs are still the weakest link in the power sector. You failed to provide meters for your customers and you still have mouths to talk. How many of the executive go to a petrol station with their own meters? Or do they accept estimated billing by the attendant after buying fuel?

If your coverage area is too big why not let go of some area for other investors to establish there own network? And concentrate on the area you can adequately serve instead of load shedding. But greed will not allow them

Gbam.

If PMB is serious about fighting corruption he must make sure that estimated billing is eliminated and all houses must be metered.

I have always known that the Meter Assets Providers (MAP) thing is a fluke. The major enemy of Electricity Consumers is NERC. If NERC wants MAP to work, it will work.

The Agency first said that MAP will start in April. The date suddenly shifted to September. Right now, they are not saying anything again.

NERC is a highly corrupt agency. They are not on the side of Electricity consumers at all. NERC is working for the DISCOS!

Omooba77:


http://punchng.com/metering-youre-telling-lies-power-distributors-reply-fashola/

The most painful and annoying one is the fact that,there would be a general fault like a bad or faulty feeder or transformer which put the whole neighborhood in a blackout for several weeks making people spend more money on fuel for their generators,but at the end of the month,the stup1d electricity officials would still hand you bills for electronicity that was not even there. They're so shameless,and on top of it,they'd be so arrogant to you. Smh...

ThatCEO:
Solar will solve all these things. However, a typical Nigerian rich man who can afford it prefers to buy diesel to power his Mikano so he can be seen as a big man

Is solar really that effective?... Can it really produce the same amount of power as a simple 10 or 15kva diesel gen?... In a house which has a refrigerator, a deep freezer, 2 x 2horse power ACs and 3 x 1 hp ACs, what exactly is the size of the solar system that can efficiently power such a home 24hrs?... I'm giessing in that case, one might need to buy an extra plot of land by the side to install the solar cells, cos the roof space of this house would probably not be sufficient to take the number of cells required. Just thinking out loud!

You are crying foul now ,when BRF have been in your support increasing tariff,bill against bypass of meters you did not cry then , election is drawing near he( BRF) must improve his master ratings ,promoting bill on no estimated billing .

IBBG:
the biggest mistake jonathan made was privatizing PHCN to our local investors. They are bunch of very useless investors.

this is one of the reason I will never forgive ineffectual buffoon,
He sold bedc to his wife and still gave them 230b naira as start-up capital from our Commonwealth,
This same arrangement he did in 2nd Niger bridge, to mortgage the future generation of Nigeria.

And the jobless aggressive lazy idiotic pigs of Biafra still love him as their hero and put the blame on buhari for their darkness.

You can imaging discos playing politics with light because they are all PDP.

Buhari should just terminate the sells.
And that is the next action with this their statement.

the 419 fraudster called phcn did not bring light for 24 days they only flash the light for only 3 day in a month and the scammers still bring 22,000 naira monthly bill

okay I told them to disconnect me I don't want theirs light again they refused

I disconnected myself packed wire and dash them they still keep bringing bill for light that is disconnected oh their was a Country Hell hole and vicious human beings in power

the discos are not really serious and economical with the truth. The over 1 trillion naira allegedly owed the discos are mostly due to outrageous billing and you expect customers to pay up these disputed debts, to provide meters to electricity subscribers is now a rocket science to the inefficient discos. The most burning issue consumers have with the electricity providers is that of estimated billing which is tantamount to cheating.

The discos can say what they like. The truth is that the consumer is being made to bear the burden of their inefficiency. If the discos buy 10MW of power, they share the cost across all it consumers after deducting the lower accurate rates that the metered customers have paid. They do that even if the power supply to the unmetered customers has been poor. In April when there was hardly any electricity for the whole month and the weather was very hot, I was forced to spend up to N50k to power my generator so I could live like a normal human being. Yet I still received a N30k bill from EKEDC at the end of the month and they continue to insist that I pay that bill till today despite my protests and threaten me with disconnection. How can I be intimidated into paying for services I have not received? Where is that done?

If there was competition operating within the same area instead of the private monopoly that operates now, who would the discos go crying to when their customers leave them in droves to join a more efficient operator? Only then would they know that they have to meter their customers in order to survive. The current estimated bill structure is very convenient for them no matter what they say and they will continue to fight for it.

theoldpretender:


Even if DISCOS accept all the power the GENCOS send (and with them being owed N1.3 trillion by Nigerians, rich and poor...that is a big ask)...5000 MW (on a good day) cannot give the whole country 24 hours supply on a daily basis.

We need probably something like 80000MW. And that is why we have to eventually pay higher bills, or get another loan..so that we have the cash to expand power in Nigeria .

(According to the experts...we need $900bn over 30 years to fix power..ie $30 bn every year for 30 years.).

I am no expert on electricity but I must say that from a strictly business perspective, this idea is very Nigerian. Maybe we need 80000MW, maybe we don't.

What is certain is the fact that whatever we need can be attained in small realistic increments over a period of time. This will actually mean having a proper blueprint in place that is adhered to strictly. If we had a National blueprint that was seen to be working it would inspire confidence in the sector. Of course from time to time there would be failures in the system but I assure you that we probably would have foreseen the failures and planned for it.

Some weeks ago one of the rapidly advancing economies in Eastern Europe; Estonia suffered an outage but the power was restored pretty soon......because they anticipated the problem and the checks put in place mitigated the losses and downtime.

If you have a business in this country and expect it to thrive you will plan your electricity long term. Ditto for those who want to have a semblance of civilization in their homes. You still plan for generator maintenance and replacement.

The Discos are not business entities but opportunists. I see then selling off in the nearest future to more serious minded international players. Then you will understand what the word 'possibilies' entails.

theoldpretender:


If GEJ had left the status quo ante to stand....the same problems would still be there.

Infact, we need trillions of naira to fix power. With a budget less than 10 trillion naira...are you ready to spend half just on power?

The idea behind the DISCOS was that it would be like GSM...let the private companies do their thing, and money flows in and as a result things improve. Problems started when lenders refused to lend to the DISCOS....

Foreign investors were on standby with the money to invest, but he ignored them in favour of our local investors, now we are still enmeshed in the same endless cycle of darkness making it even more worse now than before. If the first batch of people we had privatized GSM to were our local investors, by now we would probably still be buying sim card at 20k. Our local investors are evil people. They are the antithesis of capitalism. The are an epitome and a paradigm of the extreme evil of capitalism. I don't really blame them, because they are in collusion with the government to rip us off

HomeOfMe:
The most painful and annoying one is the fact that,there would be a general fault like a bad or faulty feeder or transformer which put the whole neighborhood in a blackout for several weeks making people spend more money on fuel for their generators,but at the end of the month,the stup1d electricity officials would still hand you bills for electronicity that was not even there. They're so shameless,and on top of it,they'd be so arrogant to you. Smh...

that is what fashola were trying to say, that the faulty feeders and transformers are the reasons the light is not getting to homes.
And the discos are here playing politics and blaming fg why light is not reaching our home.

obailala:
Is solar really that effective?... Can it really produce the same amount of power as a simple 10 or 15kva diesel gen?... In a house which has a refrigerator, a deep freezer, 2 x 2horse power ACs and 3 x 1 hp ACs, what exactly is the size of the solar system that can efficiently power such a home 24hrs?... I'm giessing in that case, one might need to buy an extra plot of land by the side to install the solar cells, cos the roof space of this house would probably not be sufficient to take the number of cells required. Just thinking out loud!

Truth is, it is overpriced in Nigeria. If you have someone who can buy and send from abroad, quite affordable. A 10kva system would cost around 2M with shipping with good warranty. Also it doesn't take so much space. A 375W panel will take up the same space as a 100W. Issue is that most Nigerian importers bring in the 100W therebye taking too much space. There are lots of advanced panels, some even foldable. You also need to select energy saving AC and all that. Sometimes, what most homes need is a humidifier n not AC.

Those panels will pay for themselves in 3 to 5 years with 25years lifespan.

It's expensive tho, but a lot of people can comfortably afford but they wouldn't.

Fashola is a confirmed, shameless liar!
I remember hos govt embarked on the sand-filling of the lagoon at Ilubirin for construction of housing estates for the rich. This lead to the shrinking of the lagoon. But the he turned around to lie against the poor people living along the bank of the lagoon as being the reason why the lagoon was receding. He sent armed policemen to drive away the people by force and one of their leaders was killed in cold blood by policemen sent by the corrupt and clueless Fashola.
He has nothing special to offer. It is only in Nigeria that mediocrity is celebrated.

The truth is some investors jumped into the DISCO thing without due diligence. They thought the DISCO business will be like oil blocks or gsm paroles where money just rolls in anyhow. They are not willing to embark on long term investment. Now they realized it was a different ball game they simply resorted to extorting their customers.

I tell you they are worst compared to the old NEPA. In the days of NEPA, disconnections are done once in a month but with the IKEDC, their men go about week-in week-out with ladder extorting the hapless while threatening to disconnect them. I once confronted some in my area reminding them their colleagues came in the previous week and the excuse was that ''those ones that came last week are the task force, we are from the head-office'' Even NEPA at the height of its efficiency was never that bad!

ThatCEO:


Truth is, it is overpriced in Nigeria. If you have someone who can buy and send from abroad, quite affordable. A 10kva system would cost around 2M with shipping with good warranty. Also it doesn't take so much space. A 375W panel will take up the same space as a 100W. Issue is that most Nigerian importers bring in the 100W therebye taking too much space. There are lots of advanced panels, some even foldable. You also need to select energy saving AC and all that. Sometimes, what most homes need is a humidifier n not AC.

Those panels will pay for themselves in 3 to 5 years with 25years lifespan.

It's expensive tho, but a lot of people can comfortably afford but they wouldn't.

Hmm.. you make it sound so beautiful, easy and efficient. I did a quote with an agent once with the number of appliances I mentioned earlier , 2 x 1.5hp ACs, 3 x 1hp ACs, 1 fridge, 1 freezer and 1 TV. If I remember, he told me I would need about a 13.5kw to 15kw system. And the cost quoted was over 8million. While that didnt seem too bad at first, I was also told by another agent that even with that system in place, it wouldnt still power my house for up to 24 hours, and I would need to pray for high intensity sunlight to maximize its production. Was also told most of the solar chargers and inverters in the market are fake, and lest I forget, the 13.5 kw system meant I had to have up to solar panels on my tiny roof space. The whole process and stories were just discouraging. And yeah, its also still very expensive abroad.

HomeOfMe:
The most painful and annoying one is the fact that,there would be a general fault like a bad or faulty feeder or transformer which put the whole neighborhood in a blackout for several weeks making people spend more money on fuel for their generators,but at the end of the month,the stup1d electricity officials would still hand you bills for electronicity that was not even there. They're so shameless,and on top of it,they'd be so arrogant to you. Smh...

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ahmedbanj:

Are U sure abt pple rejecting ppm? I doubt if dats true.

His comment is true. I know a lady who refused to have a ppm installed in her business premises on Adeniran Ogunsanya street. It was free. She said her electricity bill would multiply and she'd rather continue to pay estimated bills. You can guess why.

lorhema:


His comment is true. I know a lady who refused to have a ppm installed in her business premises on Adeniran Ogunsanya street. It was free. She said her electricity bill would multiply and she'd rather continue to pay estimated bills. You can guess why.

It should have been installed for her compulsorily.

Discos have come out to say Barm Fashola is lying on the KW generated, so please who do we believe.

obailala:
Hmm.. you make it sound so beautiful, easy and efficient. I did a quote with an agent once with the number of appliances I mentioned earlier , 2 x 1.5hp ACs, 3 x 1hp ACs, 1 fridge, 1 freezer and 1 TV. If I remember, he told me I would need about a 13.5kw to 15kw system. And the cost quoted was over 8million. While that didnt seem too bad at first, I was also told by another agent that even with that system in place, it wouldnt still power my house for up to 24 hours, and I would need to pray for high intensity sunlight to maximize its production. Was also told most of the solar chargers and inverters in the market are fake, and lest I forget, the 13.5 kw system meant I had to have up to solar panels on my tiny roof space. The whole process and stories were just discouraging. And yeah, its also still very expensive abroad.

Well, I believe the agents are billing you at least twice of what it should normally cost. Check out the quote for this 15.6kva package, complete even with wiring. Don't even trust this quote here, this is just online; should be 30 to 40 percent cheaper at the shops. Unfortunately, for some reasons, I am not in a position to help but I just want you to know that you can get it much cheaper. Though shipping could be another thing.

Price depends on lots of things but trust an agent, they will probably get you the lowest quality stuff just and they might not spend no more than 3M for that 8M quotation.

Lack of sincerity and an inordinate desire to make too much profit that's the problem with these criminals called discos. They know that when you start metering customers accurately then their revenues will fall because most people will now be conscious about conserving their electricity to save cost. Estimated billing is a reap off. It is charging people for service not rendered. That's why the power situation will remain the same even 20 yrs from now because this criminal cabals running the show will never give up and our ineffective government either has no desire or lacks the will to solve this problem. Its to your tent oh isre....oh Nigeria.

HomeOfMe:
That is one of the reasons power situation has not changed because people have several alternatives like solar,inverter and generator. The day I visited my brother at Abujai was watching my favorite tv program,suddenly the light just went off for about five seconds and came back again. I asked him what happened to the light,he said that nepa just took the light and automatically inverter came on. People like him won't even bother to say he wants to go and protests on the streets for lack of electricity because he has several alternatives.

You have said it all sir; until we rise against this over billing, we will still be shouting for nothing .

ThatCEO:


Well, I believe the agents are billing you at least twice of what it should normally cost. Check out the quote for this 15.6kva package, complete even with wiring. Don't even trust this quote here, this is just online; should be 30 to 40 percent cheaper at the shops. Unfortunately, for some reasons, I am not in a position to help but I just want you to know that you can get it much cheaper. Though shipping could be another thing.

Price depends on lots of things but trust an agent, they will probably get you the lowest quality stuff just and they might not spend no more than 3M for that 8M quotation.

Hmmm.. This is really interesting and gives one some hope. But like seriously, if solar systems are really as effective and affordable, why isn't it already so popular?... Why would I spend over N3million buying a 15-20kva sound proof diesel generator which would still cost me about N50-N100k weekly on diesel if I could cough out say N6million and get an efficient solar system with very insignificant running costs?... If solar systems are truly as cost effective and efficient, how come the testimonials of the current users hasn't flooded Nigeria's media space?.... A lot of guys in Nigeria buy cars worth over N5-10million in cash, with this amount, they can kiss NEPA, estimated billing and generator noise/fumes goodbye; but that doesn't seem to be the case. I wouldn't want to believe people are just not aware of the existence of solar technology; there must be another reason why it isn't yet so popular in Nigeria as it should be.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting the beauty of solar technology as an alternative to the frustrating NEPA and generators, I just feel there must be a (possibly hidden sour) reason why it isn't so popular yet.

ahmedbanj:

Are U sure abt pple rejecting ppm? I doubt if dats true.

I also heard a lot of people are rejecting it. My brother in PH previously paid about N15k monthly estimated billing and was lamenting. He got his PPM sometime last year and his bill jumped to over N35k monthly. By fire by force, he quickly learnt how to turn off his ACs which he runs almost 24 hours (he lives in an area where light is almost constant). Sometimes he now even rations the way he turns on his freezer; e.g. turn on only few hours a day, create blocks, and switch off for the rest of the day. The truth is that if everyone is given PPMs, the power bill of so many households (especially those with ACs) will double.

murmee:
I have always known that the Meter Assets Providers (MAP) thing is a fluke. The major enemy of Electricity Consumers is NERC. If NERC wants MAP to work, it will work.

The Agency first said that MAP will start in April. The date suddenly shifted to September. Right now, they are not saying anything again.

NERC is a highly corrupt agency. They are not on the side of Electricity consumers at all. NERC is working for the DISCOS!

Haa it's now September

What is wrong with Nigerians, provide meter disco can't provide.

Let the MAP provide for us we will pay still no show.

They are claiming people are owing billions abi. Who will pay for darkness.

obailala:
I also heard a lot of people are rejecting it. My brother in PH previously paid about N15k monthly estimated billing and was lamenting. He got his PPM sometime last year and his bill jumped to over N35k monthly. By fire by force, he quickly learnt how to turn off his ACs which he runs almost 24 hours (he lives in an area where light is almost constant). Sometimes he now even rations the way he turns on his freezer; e.g. turn on only few hours a day, create blocks, and switch off for the rest of the day. The truth is that if everyone is given PPMs, the power bill of so many households (especially those with ACs) will double.

And for those of us that there is almost zero light our bills will be just like 600 naira with prepaid

Me I want prepaid meter oo. It's those with light in constant areas that reject prepaid meter and that's where the discos take them too because they know they will make maximum profit there. Those of us that have bad supply they will stifle plans to get a meter because they know we can't be cheated again.

Ole them.

NoToPile:


And for those of us that there is almost zero light our bills will be just like 600 naira with prepaid

Me I want prepaid meter oo. It's those with light in constant areas that reject prepaid meter and that's where the discos take them too because they know they will make maximum profit there. Those of us that have bad supply they will stifle plans to get a meter because they know we can't be cheated again.

Ole them.

Yes o...your bill could be as low as N300, but they'll give you an estimate of N20,000 to pay for darkness

I like that poster that disconnected his house for the useless officials to see. I hardly stay at home so even when I use my gen I don't spend up to N15k a month on fuel