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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by Mansur0107(m): 9:01am On Jul 26, 2018 |
MrPolitics:Lol.. 30k? Posterity will definitely judge either BUHARI or Saraki is doing good for Nigerians and those people under disguise to undermine the selfless effort of BUHARI in making the country better. 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by izzou(m): 9:02am On Jul 26, 2018 |
Iamgrey5: School me sir Buhari contested for presidency under the CPC in 2011. Did Kwankwaso contest for presidency in 2011?If yes, under what party? Please I mean presidential elections. Not primaries I'm here to learn. That's why I said I may be wrong |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by Nobody: 9:05am On Jul 26, 2018 |
For the last four years they have been fighting themselves, what major development can day show as the fight continue. |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by jolyment: 9:06am On Jul 26, 2018 |
Bakerdav: A leader that uses tax payers money for medical treatment and tourism but cannot fix our health sector. 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by izzou(m): 9:08am On Jul 26, 2018 |
yazach: I'd appreciate if you understand my message All I'm saying is people helped him to get there. Let's stop assuming that the name of Buhari will win it all If you field Buhari in a political party and Kwankwaso in another political party(Say APC and PDP), and they both contest for presidency, Kwankwaso will win him in Kano If you field Buhari in a political party and Tinubu in another political party, and they both contest for presidency, Tinubu will win him in Lagos. That's my point. Saying the defection means little to APC doesn't make sense to me. It was still this same defection that contributed to PDP's loss 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by Iamgrey5(m): 9:08am On Jul 26, 2018 |
izzou:Let me school you sir Kwankwasor was the state governor at that time in Kano under the umbrella of PDP. He only managed to hang on to his position because Cpc didn't have much structure in Kano by then In 2003 Buhari used Sekerau to defeat him Why did you think only about 4 of the house of rep defected with Rabiu out of 24 from Kano Why did you think no other senator defected with him from kano, despite having help to insult them At least, Saraki foot soldiers from Kwara weren't all afraid to defect (: in 2011 presidential results when Rabiu was Governor under PDP cpc 1624543 ANPP 526310 PDP 440666 Governors election results Kawkwasor PDP 1,108,345 Salihu Safir Takai. ANPP. 1,048,317 https://www.cp-africa.com/2011/04/18/official-results-inec-releases-official-nigerian-presidential-elections-results-for-29-states/ 3 Likes |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by jolyment: 9:10am On Jul 26, 2018 |
benzion72: I work in the North West,you are very right,people are really suffering here. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by GEEBITE: 9:13am On Jul 26, 2018 |
Do you want to make it in your grill business at all.You dont use a business name or account to show your partisanship.They didnt teach you that in UNILAG? NB-Please provide the link to this quote you are all attributing to Wole Soyinka. post=69710490: |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by jolyment: 9:14am On Jul 26, 2018 |
yazach: The expectations that people want from PMB is too much but he never achieved almost all of them.This will affect his re-election bid. Offa is a place of intellectuals,they know who to support. |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by izzou(m): 9:15am On Jul 26, 2018 |
Iamgrey5: You seem to be going too far. I'd appreciate if we stay on the same page From all what you wrote, Kwankwaso has never contested nor had he been fielded as a presidential candidate for any political party. So it means they both have never contested on that platform Jonathan won Lagos State in 2011 when ACN fielded Ribadu doesn't mean he will challenge Tinubu anytime anyday Anyway, my point is that Buhari cannot win it all, and I find it absurd that APC supporters are berating the effect of this defection. It was this same people that left PDP and PDP lost with a wide margin in 2015. To me, this defection will mean a lot, especially in the north |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by AnanseK(m): 9:16am On Jul 26, 2018 |
izzou: Sorry Sir. All Your assumptions in the last paragraph are 100% wrong. You need more lessons in Northern Politics. 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by stiles009(m): 9:18am On Jul 26, 2018 |
izzou: so u mean kwakwaso, atiku and ringim all of pdp are gonaa be contesting at d same time? 2 Likes |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by Iamgrey5(m): 9:18am On Jul 26, 2018 |
izzou:Check again I have updated my post to clarify my points And who says he will get the mandate of PDP to contest not when Atiku is alive 2 Likes |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by blazer2018: 9:19am On Jul 26, 2018 |
izzou: I may be wrong too...but go and write it down, Buhari will floor Kwankwaso in Kano...Have u forgotten that Buhari had 12, 6.5, and 12.5 million votes respectively even when he was not in Power...when he was in regional parties...when his party controlled just a few states...Have u forgotten Buhari once defeated this same Kwankwaso in Kano? If APC is able to restrict the defections to d ones dat happened on Tuesday and those of Saraki, Dogara, and Tambuwal, by the time the election starts, Buhari will have at least 22-23 Govs to work with...Power of incumbency...to mention but a few. Note: the last time Atiku ran, he managed just 2.6 million votes...and he has always lost his party's primaries except for once...and i wait to see wat happens after d PDP primaries...and to think USA will have any affection or sympathy for a wanted person in d states baffles me. 2 Likes |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by izzou(m): 9:21am On Jul 26, 2018 |
Iamgrey5: stiles009: AnanseK: All I'm saying is there are particular individuals that will actually support you in a particular region for you to win. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying Kwankwaso will Buhari anytime any day, or Ringim or Atiku. All I'm saying is this people have a strongholds of their states, and you need them to win. That's all I'm saying |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by blazer2018: 9:25am On Jul 26, 2018 |
izzou: Kwankwaso can never win PDP primaries...except maybe if he runs on an ADC ticket...and d difference between d said defections is that...unlike then that 7 Governors moved...d numbers are fewer now...Kwankwaso was in Power then...even now, apart from Saraki...Orthom is a drowning man...Kwankwaso has a performing Gov in Ganduje to battle against...Tambuwal too won't have it funny in Sokoto because he won't get d PDP ticket...I might be wrong sha...but time wll tell 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by izzou(m): 9:25am On Jul 26, 2018 |
blazer2018: True talk But sometimes, remember that it's not all about the governors. Remember in 2011, Jonathan won Lagos despite the fact that Tinubu fielded Ribadu. It's not all about the governors sometimes Some of these governors were put there too. They have no followers except from those from their godfathers |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by blazer2018: 9:29am On Jul 26, 2018 |
izzou: You may be right but let me tell u why GEJ won Lagos in 2011...Tinubu and CPC were on d table to negotiate a merger but it fell thru at d last minute...hence Tinubu just siddon look knowing full well that Ribadu can't win...didn't bother to campaign against GEJ in Lagos 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by izzou(m): 9:29am On Jul 26, 2018 |
blazer2018: I'd appreciate if you take out Ortom from your list. He's useless to both parties right now. He's part of those that rode to victory using Buhari's name You're right though. But Kwankwaso is not as useless as they tag him to be. He's very useful for victory Na to dey watch sha 2 Likes |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by Iamgrey5(m): 9:30am On Jul 26, 2018 |
izzou:All I am saying is Kwakwasor can't defeat Buhari in Kano like you initially suggested in the post I countered Spoil his votes, maybe But then don't forget Buhari is now the president, unlike before Nonetheless, I expect a close race because of results from other states. 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by Nobody: 9:31am On Jul 26, 2018 |
Sprumbabafather: everyone who speaks against buhari is the hope of common man, you speak ,,i speak against buhari we are also the hope of common man. from fayose to saraki as hero ,internet! you guys celebrate dino,fayose, saraki , shehu ,,criticising but in there respective constitutencies & state have they deliver dividends of democracy to the people who elected them ... NASS,, the only meaningful policy they made was "not to young to contest" but how realistic & attainable is that. saraki as done a lot for the politicians by shield, as he in anyway shield the common man,when & how?? obviously the politicians love him ,a hope for the politician cannt also be the hope for the common man.. naa two parallel line. |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by izzou(m): 9:32am On Jul 26, 2018 |
Iamgrey5: Make we dey look sha And your last line is the conclusion of the whole matter 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by blazer2018: 9:32am On Jul 26, 2018 |
izzou: I agree with you...Kwankwaso is a movement in Kano and would hurt Buhari's and boost PDP's chances in Kano...only if he's running for an office...but i doubt if he can outwit both Ganduje and Buhari as a non-Presidential candidate. 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by Nobody: 9:33am On Jul 26, 2018 |
[s] FarahAideed:[/s] As much as I won't vote anyone.. What you wrote up there is undiluted rubbish 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by ELKHALIFAISIS(m): 9:33am On Jul 26, 2018 |
ManirBK:Gbam 1st class ZONE-B have spoken |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by izzou(m): 9:33am On Jul 26, 2018 |
blazer2018: Yeah. That's true though But Jonathan had it all. Power of incumbency, Sympathy votes and the rest. Make we dey look them sha 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by izzou(m): 9:38am On Jul 26, 2018 |
blazer2018: This Ganduje seems to be overhyped to me. Or maybe it's me that doesn't know much. I have this feeling all of them will rally around Atiku. Atiku has been patient enough(I respect him for that) and with the way they all are flocking in, something might be cooking which we don't know of PS: I'm not talking about governance and integrity oh. I'm just saying in this political battle field, Atiku deserves a chance to contest |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by gotnel: 9:39am On Jul 26, 2018 |
In all honesty, there is nothing for the masses in all these defections from one Party to another of our rougue senators. They are all strategizing for themselves. They are doing what will favour their pockets. APC as a party has lost all the goodwill that brought them to power. PDP has been tested for 16years and not much was archives. The same old crooks decamps from one party to another to get what will make them remains in the corridor of power to the detriment of the people. Until when we are ready to take possession of power away from these same thieving political class running a ring around us, we will not move an inch. |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by blazer2018: 9:48am On Jul 26, 2018 |
izzou: Atiku has been patient? You don't mean that, do u If he had been, he would have probably become Nigeria's President by now...but he was inpatient and desperate. One thing is for sure...those that are flocking into PDP have ambitions, ambitions that can't be fulfilled in APC...some have even noticed they won't get return tickets on APC's platform and PDP cajoled them with automatic tickets knowing fully well they won't be able to return to APC after d primaries....but do u actually think PDP won't have cracks heading to 2019? 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by wizseller: 9:49am On Jul 26, 2018 |
God bless you as you have said it all Buhari simply lacks the know how of how a manage a country politically, economically and socially The man is just too dull, wicked and vindictive...he thinks everything is by brute force. To send Buhari back to his cows in daura come 2019 is a task that must be accomplished for Nigeria to have peace and progress FarahAideed: 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by Chiboto414: 9:50am On Jul 26, 2018 |
FarahAideed:correct talk . and may God bless ur wisdom ijn |
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