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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by Mansur0107(m): 9:01am On Jul 26, 2018
MrPolitics:


Lool so you are just blind to all those injustices?
Unlike you, I am simply a concerned Nigerian.

You're the one selling your soul and your future for 30k monthly stipend.
Where do you think you and the others' 30k come from? Buhari's personal pocket?

Be deceiving yourself
Lol.. 30k?

Posterity will definitely judge either BUHARI or Saraki is doing good for Nigerians and those people under disguise to undermine the selfless effort of BUHARI in making the country better.

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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by izzou(m): 9:02am On Jul 26, 2018
Iamgrey5:
You are very wrong sir

Buhari has defeated Kwankwasor in Kano on more than one occasion. He defeated him in Kano on a presidential level in 2011 after just forming a party for six months

Check history

And more importantly, he wasn't the president on any of these occasions, so he lacked the resources available to incumbent


School me sir

Buhari contested for presidency under the CPC in 2011. Did Kwankwaso contest for presidency in 2011?If yes, under what party?

Please I mean presidential elections. Not primaries

I'm here to learn. That's why I said I may be wrong smiley
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by Nobody: 9:05am On Jul 26, 2018
For the last four years they have been fighting themselves, what major development can day show as the fight continue.
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by jolyment: 9:06am On Jul 26, 2018
Bakerdav:
yes boss u r right, baba is not politician just a leader, imagine baba saying I belong to nobody nd I belong to everybody

A leader that uses tax payers money for medical treatment and tourism but cannot fix our health sector.

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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by izzou(m): 9:08am On Jul 26, 2018
yazach:


What are you talki

Buhari can not win kwankwaso in Kano!!!!!
You need to check your Google

I'd appreciate if you understand my message

All I'm saying is people helped him to get there. Let's stop assuming that the name of Buhari will win it all

If you field Buhari in a political party and Kwankwaso in another political party(Say APC and PDP), and they both contest for presidency, Kwankwaso will win him in Kano

If you field Buhari in a political party and Tinubu in another political party, and they both contest for presidency, Tinubu will win him in Lagos.

That's my point. Saying the defection means little to APC doesn't make sense to me. It was still this same defection that contributed to PDP's loss

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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by Iamgrey5(m): 9:08am On Jul 26, 2018
izzou:


School me sir

Buhari contested for presidency under the CPC in 2011. Did Kwankwaso contest for presidency in 2011?If yes, under what party?

Please I mean presidential elections. Not primaries

I'm here to learn. That's why I said I may be wrong smiley
Let me school you sir

Kwankwasor was the state governor at that time in Kano under the umbrella of PDP. He only managed to hang on to his position because Cpc didn't have much structure in Kano by then


In 2003 Buhari used Sekerau to defeat him


Why did you think only about 4 of the house of rep defected with Rabiu out of 24 from Kano

Why did you think no other senator defected with him from kano, despite having help to insult them

At least, Saraki foot soldiers from Kwara weren't all afraid to defect (:

in 2011 presidential results when Rabiu was Governor under PDP grin

cpc
1624543

ANPP
526310

PDP
440666


Governors election results
Kawkwasor PDP 1,108,345

Salihu Safir Takai.
ANPP. 1,048,317


smiley




https://www.cp-africa.com/2011/04/18/official-results-inec-releases-official-nigerian-presidential-elections-results-for-29-states/

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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by jolyment: 9:10am On Jul 26, 2018
benzion72:



PMB popularity is waneing. Politics is a game of number the more the better the whole of Benue is gone, the whole of Kwara is gone, half of kano is gone. Over confidence kills, it kill GEJ PDP and APC is deceived too they will go down the drain. Remember Reuben Abati how he was so confident of their victory until the figure changed. Buhari is being deceived by is psychopahnts that when he was not president he had 12 million votes, now that he is president people have seen his weakness. in fact some people will stone him for untold suffering they have gone through under his administration even the northerner. Ask any mallam Sai Buhari he will tell you inaaaaaaaaaaaaaa



I work in the North West,you are very right,people are really suffering here.

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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by GEEBITE: 9:13am On Jul 26, 2018
Do you want to make it in your grill business at all.You dont use a business name or account to show your partisanship.They didnt teach you that in UNILAG?
NB-Please provide the link to this quote you are all attributing to Wole Soyinka.
post=69710490:
His wahala.

"Only in Nigeria thieves are regrouping to re-LOOT again and youth whose future will be stolen are celebrating it"
..........Wole Soyinka

We : Only Lazy and corrupt youth sir.
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by jolyment: 9:14am On Jul 26, 2018
yazach:


This means you are from another planet

Offa will go with saraki

Say it again


The expectations that people want from PMB is too much but he never achieved almost all of them.This will affect his re-election bid. Offa is a place of intellectuals,they know who to support.
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by izzou(m): 9:15am On Jul 26, 2018
Iamgrey5:
Let me school you sir

Kwankwasor was the state governor at that time in Kano under the umbrella of PDP. He only managed to hang on to his position because Cpc didn't have much structure in Kano by then


In 2003 Buhari used Sekerau to defeat him


Why did you think only about 4 of the house of rep defected with Rabiu out of 24 from Kano

Why did you think no other senator defected with him from kano, despite having help to insult them

At least, Saraki foot soldiers from Kwara weren't all afraid to defect (:


You seem to be going too far. I'd appreciate if we stay on the same page

From all what you wrote, Kwankwaso has never contested nor had he been fielded as a presidential candidate for any political party. So it means they both have never contested on that platform

Jonathan won Lagos State in 2011 when ACN fielded Ribadu doesn't mean he will challenge Tinubu anytime anyday

Anyway, my point is that Buhari cannot win it all, and I find it absurd that APC supporters are berating the effect of this defection.

It was this same people that left PDP and PDP lost with a wide margin in 2015.

To me, this defection will mean a lot, especially in the north
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by AnanseK(m): 9:16am On Jul 26, 2018
izzou:


Maybe I'm wrong, but I wonder how you guys think that this defection won't mean anything to Buhari's chance

For heaven's sake, Buhari contested in 2007 and 2011 and he didn't even win half of the whole northern region. This should tell you that people actually helped him achieve this, not his name.

2015 was a whole different atmosphere in politics. Nigerians were tired of PDP. The elections was biased withreligion, ethnicity but 2019 is going to a totally different game.

We got lesser than what we expected, the battle is now between men of the same race and religion.

I may be wrong, but I know that on a presidential level, Buhari cannot win Kwankwaso in Kano, Buhari cannot win Atiku in Adamawa, Buhari cannot win Ringim in Jigawa.

Sorry Sir. All Your assumptions in the last paragraph are 100% wrong. You need more lessons in Northern Politics.

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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by stiles009(m): 9:18am On Jul 26, 2018
izzou:


Maybe I'm wrong, but I wonder how you guys think that this defection won't mean anything to Buhari's chance

For heaven's sake, Buhari contested in 2007 and 2011 and he didn't even win half of the whole northern region. This should tell you that people actually helped him achieve this, not his name.

2015 was a whole different atmosphere in politics. Nigerians were tired of PDP. The elections was biased withreligion, ethnicity but 2019 is going to a totally different game.

We got lesser than what we expected, the battle is now between men of the same race and religion.

I may be wrong, but I know that on a presidential level, Buhari cannot win Kwankwaso in Kano, Buhari cannot win Atiku in Adamawa, Buhari cannot win Ringim in Jigawa.

so u mean kwakwaso, atiku and ringim all of pdp are gonaa be contesting at d same time?

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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by Iamgrey5(m): 9:18am On Jul 26, 2018
izzou:


You seem to be going too far. I'd appreciate if we stay on the same page

From all what you wrote, Kwankwaso has never contested nor had he been fielded as a presidential candidate for any political party. So it means they both have never contested on that platform

Anyway, my point is that Buhari cannot win it all, and I find it absurd that APC supporters are berating the effect of this defection.

It was this same people that left PDP and PDP lost with a wide margin in 2015.

To me, this defection will mean a lot, especially in the north
Check again

I have updated my post to clarify my points smiley

And who says he will get the mandate of PDP to contest not when Atiku is alive

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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by blazer2018: 9:19am On Jul 26, 2018
izzou:


Maybe I'm wrong, but I wonder how you guys think that this defection won't mean anything to Buhari's chance

For heaven's sake, Buhari contested in 2007 and 2011 and he didn't even win half of the whole northern region. This should tell you that people actually helped him achieve this, not his name.

2015 was a whole different atmosphere in politics. Nigerians were tired of PDP. The elections was biased withreligion, ethnicity but 2019 is going to a totally different game.

We got lesser than what we expected, the battle is now between men of the same race and religion.

I may be wrong, but I know that on a presidential level, Buhari cannot win Kwankwaso in Kano, Buhari cannot win Atiku in Adamawa, Buhari cannot win Ringim in Jigawa.

I may be wrong too...but go and write it down, Buhari will floor Kwankwaso in Kano...Have u forgotten that Buhari had 12, 6.5, and 12.5 million votes respectively even when he was not in Power...when he was in regional parties...when his party controlled just a few states...Have u forgotten Buhari once defeated this same Kwankwaso in Kano?

If APC is able to restrict the defections to d ones dat happened on Tuesday and those of Saraki, Dogara, and Tambuwal, by the time the election starts, Buhari will have at least 22-23 Govs to work with...Power of incumbency...to mention but a few.


Note: the last time Atiku ran, he managed just 2.6 million votes...and he has always lost his party's primaries except for once...and i wait to see wat happens after d PDP primaries...and to think USA will have any affection or sympathy for a wanted person in d states baffles me.

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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by izzou(m): 9:21am On Jul 26, 2018
Iamgrey5:
Check again

I have updated my post to clarify my points (:

And who says he will get the mandate of PDP to contest not when Atiku is alive

stiles009:


so u mean kwakwaso, atiku and ringim all of pdp are gonaa be contesting at d same time?
AnanseK:


Sorry Sir. All Your assumptions in the last paragraph are 100% wrong. You need more lessons in Northern Politics.

All I'm saying is there are particular individuals that will actually support you in a particular region for you to win. That's all I'm saying.

I'm not saying Kwankwaso will Buhari anytime any day, or Ringim or Atiku. All I'm saying is this people have a strongholds of their states, and you need them to win.

That's all I'm saying
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by blazer2018: 9:25am On Jul 26, 2018
izzou:


I'd appreciate if you understand my message

All I'm saying is people helped him to get there. Let's stop assuming that the name of Buhari will win it all

If you field Buhari in a political party and Kwankwaso in another political party(Say APC and PDP), and they both contest for presidency, Kwankwaso will win him in Kano

If you field Buhari in a political party and Tinubu in another political party, and they both contest for presidency, Tinubu will win him in Lagos.

That's my point. Saying the defection means little to APC doesn't make sense to me. It was still this same defection that contributed to PDP's loss

Kwankwaso can never win PDP primaries...except maybe if he runs on an ADC ticket...and d difference between d said defections is that...unlike then that 7 Governors moved...d numbers are fewer now...Kwankwaso was in Power then...even now, apart from Saraki...Orthom is a drowning man...Kwankwaso has a performing Gov in Ganduje to battle against...Tambuwal too won't have it funny in Sokoto because he won't get d PDP ticket...I might be wrong sha...but time wll tell

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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by izzou(m): 9:25am On Jul 26, 2018
blazer2018:


I may be wrong too...but go and write it down, Buhari will floor Kwankwaso in Kano...Have u forgotten that Buhari had 12, 6.5, and 12.5 million votes respectively even when he was not in Power...when he was in regional parties...when his party controlled just a few states...Have u forgotten Buhari once defeated this same Kwankwaso in Kano?

If APC is able to restrict the defections to d ones dat happened on Tuesday and those of Saraki, Dogara, and Tambuwal, by the time the election starts, Buhari will have at least 22-23 Govs to work with...Power of incumbency...to mention but a few.


Note: the last time Atiku ran, he managed just 2.6 million votes...and he has always lost his party's primaries except for once...and i wait to see wat happens after d PDP primaries...and to think USA will have any affection or sympathy for a wanted person in d states baffles me.

True talk

But sometimes, remember that it's not all about the governors. Remember in 2011, Jonathan won Lagos despite the fact that Tinubu fielded Ribadu. It's not all about the governors sometimes

Some of these governors were put there too. They have no followers except from those from their godfathers
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by blazer2018: 9:29am On Jul 26, 2018
izzou:


True talk

But sometimes, remember that it's not all about the governors. Remember in 2011, Jonathan won Lagos despite the fact that Tinubu fielded Ribadu. It's not all about the governors sometimes

Some of these governors were put there too. They have no followers except from those from their godfathers

You may be right but let me tell u why GEJ won Lagos in 2011...Tinubu and CPC were on d table to negotiate a merger but it fell thru at d last minute...hence Tinubu just siddon look knowing full well that Ribadu can't win...didn't bother to campaign against GEJ in Lagos

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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by izzou(m): 9:29am On Jul 26, 2018
blazer2018:


Kwankwaso can never win PDP primaries...except maybe if he runs on an ADC ticket...and d difference between d said defections is that...unlike then that 7 Governors moved...d numbers are fewer now...Kwankwaso was in Power then...even now, apart from Saraki...Orthom is a drowning man...Kwankwaso has a performing Gov in Ganduje to battle against...Tambuwal too won't have it funny in Sokoto because he won't get d PDP ticket...I might be wrong sha...but time wll tell

I'd appreciate if you take out Ortom from your list. He's useless to both parties right now. He's part of those that rode to victory using Buhari's name

You're right though. But Kwankwaso is not as useless as they tag him to be. He's very useful for victory

Na to dey watch sha

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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by Iamgrey5(m): 9:30am On Jul 26, 2018
izzou:




All I'm saying is there are particular individuals that will actually support you in a particular region for you to win. That's all I'm saying.

I'm not saying Kwankwaso will Buhari anytime any day, or Ringim or Atiku. All I'm saying is this people have a strongholds of their states, and you need them to win.

That's all I'm saying
All I am saying is Kwakwasor can't defeat Buhari in Kano like you initially suggested in the post I countered

Spoil his votes, maybe

But then don't forget Buhari is now the president, unlike before

Nonetheless, I expect a close race because of results from other states.

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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by Nobody: 9:31am On Jul 26, 2018
Sprumbabafather:


I think saraki is an obstacle to PMB attempt to strangle the country and make the security situation worse. Saraki is the hope of the common man.


everyone who speaks against buhari is the hope of common man, you speak ,,i speak against buhari we are also the hope of common man. from fayose to saraki as hero ,internet!
you guys celebrate dino,fayose, saraki , shehu ,,criticising but in there respective constitutencies & state have they deliver dividends of democracy to the people who elected them ...
NASS,, the only meaningful policy they made was "not to young to contest" but how realistic & attainable is that.
saraki as done a lot for the politicians by shield, as he in anyway shield the common man,when & how?? obviously the politicians love him ,a hope for the politician cannt also be the hope for the common man.. naa two parallel line.
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by izzou(m): 9:32am On Jul 26, 2018
Iamgrey5:
All I am saying is Kwakwasor can't defeat Buhari in Kano like you initially suggested in the post I countered

Spoil his votes, maybe

But then don't forget Buhari is now the president, unlike before

Nonetheless, I expect a close race because of results from other states.

Make we dey look sha


And your last line is the conclusion of the whole matter

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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by blazer2018: 9:32am On Jul 26, 2018
izzou:


I'd appreciate if you take out Ortom from your list. He's useless to both parties right now. He's part of those that rode to victory using Buhari's name

You're right though. But Kwankwaso is not as useless as they tag him to be. He's very useful for victory

Na to dey watch sha

I agree with you...Kwankwaso is a movement in Kano and would hurt Buhari's and boost PDP's chances in Kano...only if he's running for an office...but i doubt if he can outwit both Ganduje and Buhari as a non-Presidential candidate.

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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by Nobody: 9:33am On Jul 26, 2018
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FarahAideed:


Shut up !!!!! Is he the one that told Buhari to make all the poor economic decisions that led to the needless recession ?

Is he the one that told Buhari to keep protecting killer herdsmen to a point where Buhari became a suspect ?

Is he the one that told Buhari not to fix electricity till date ?

Is the one that told Buhari to increase tariff of anti malarials for no reason ?

Is he the one that told Buhari not to have an economic road map of where he is going?

Is he the one that told Buhari to practice divisiveness and nepotism openly?

Is he one that told Buhari to increase petrol prices and still end up paying four times more subsidy ?


Is he the one that to Buhari to be an unrepentant Bigot ?



My Friend Buhari is 100 percent responsible for all how own problems and his dwindling fortunes so much that his only hope of re election lies on rigging and result altering as it stands
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As much as I won't vote anyone..

What you wrote up there is undiluted rubbish

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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by ELKHALIFAISIS(m): 9:33am On Jul 26, 2018
ManirBK:
Bukola Saraki has been a major obstacle in PMB administration and he has hindered most Buhari's progress. I respect his political strategy and capability. But the truth is, he cannot control the entire south west, his popularity remains in kwara state. Most of it all, no candidate from any opposition that can defeat Buhari and if Saraki is so sure of himself, let him test his popularity against PMB come 2019. If Saraki defect today, it won't stop Buhari from winning the election again.
Gbam 1st class ZONE-B have spoken
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by izzou(m): 9:33am On Jul 26, 2018
blazer2018:


You may be right but let me tell u why GEJ won Lagos in 2011...Tinubu and CPC were on d table to negotiate a merger but it fell thru at d last minute...hence Tinubu just siddon look knowing full well that Ribadu can't win...didn't bother to campaign against GEJ in Lagos

Yeah. That's true though

But Jonathan had it all. Power of incumbency, Sympathy votes and the rest.

Make we dey look them sha

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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by izzou(m): 9:38am On Jul 26, 2018
blazer2018:


I agree with you...Kwankwaso is a movement in Kano and would hurt Buhari's and boost PDP's chances in Kano...only if he's running for an office...but i doubt if he can outwit both Ganduje and Buhari as a non-Presidential candidate.

This Ganduje seems to be overhyped to me. Or maybe it's me that doesn't know much.

I have this feeling all of them will rally around Atiku. Atiku has been patient enough(I respect him for that) and with the way they all are flocking in, something might be cooking which we don't know of

PS: I'm not talking about governance and integrity oh. I'm just saying in this political battle field, Atiku deserves a chance to contest
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by gotnel: 9:39am On Jul 26, 2018
In all honesty, there is nothing for the masses in all these defections from one Party to another of our rougue senators.
They are all strategizing for themselves. They are doing what will favour their pockets.
APC as a party has lost all the goodwill that brought them to power.
PDP has been tested for 16years and not much was archives.
The same old crooks decamps from one party to another to get what will make them remains in the corridor of power to the detriment of the people.
Until when we are ready to take possession of power away from these same thieving political class running a ring around us, we will not move an inch.
Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by blazer2018: 9:48am On Jul 26, 2018
izzou:


This Ganduje seems to be overhyped to me. Or maybe it's me that doesn't know much.

I have this feeling all of them will rally around Atiku. Atiku has been patient enough(I respect him for that) and with the way they all are flocking in, something might be cooking which we don't know of

PS: I'm not talking about governance and integrity oh. I'm just saying in this political battle field, Atiku deserves a chance to contest

Atiku has been patient? You don't mean that, do u grin

If he had been, he would have probably become Nigeria's President by now...but he was inpatient and desperate.

One thing is for sure...those that are flocking into PDP have ambitions, ambitions that can't be fulfilled in APC...some have even noticed they won't get return tickets on APC's platform and PDP cajoled them with automatic tickets knowing fully well they won't be able to return to APC after d primaries....but do u actually think PDP won't have cracks heading to 2019?

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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by wizseller: 9:49am On Jul 26, 2018
God bless you as you have said it all

Buhari simply lacks the know how of how a manage a country politically, economically and socially


The man is just too dull, wicked and vindictive...he thinks everything is by brute force.



To send Buhari back to his cows in daura come 2019 is a task that must be accomplished for Nigeria to have peace and progress



FarahAideed:


Shut up !!!!! Is he the one that told Buhari to make all the poor economic decisions that led to the needless recession ?

Is he the one that told Buhari to keep protecting killer herdsmen to a point where Buhari became a suspect ?

Is he the one that told Buhari not to fix electricity till date ?

Is the one that told Buhari to increase tariff of anti malarials for no reason ?

Is he the one that told Buhari not to have an economic road map of where he is going?

Is he the one that told Buhari to practice divisiveness and nepotism openly?

Is he one that told Buhari to increase petrol prices and still end up paying four times more subsidy ?


Is he the one that to Buhari to be an unrepentant Bigot ?



My Friend Buhari is 100 percent responsible for all how own problems and his dwindling fortunes so much that his only hope of re election lies on rigging and result altering as it stands

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Re: Saraki Opens Up On Leaving Buhari, APC by Chiboto414: 9:50am On Jul 26, 2018
FarahAideed:


Shut up !!!!! Is he the one that told Buhari to make all the poor economic decisions that led to the needless recession ?

Is he the one that told Buhari to keep protecting killer herdsmen to a point where Buhari became a suspect ?

Is he the one that told Buhari not to fix electricity till date ?

Is the one that told Buhari to increase tariff of anti malarials for no reason ?

Is he the one that told Buhari not to have an economic road map of where he is going?

Is he the one that told Buhari to practice divisiveness and nepotism openly?

Is he one that told Buhari to increase petrol prices and still end up paying four times more subsidy ?


Is he the one that to Buhari to be an unrepentant Bigot ?



My Friend Buhari is 100 percent responsible for all how own problems and his dwindling fortunes so much that his only hope of re election lies on rigging and result altering as it stands
correct talk . and may God bless ur wisdom ijn

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