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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:45am On Jul 26, 2018
You're basically against everything including free movement of people & labour & trade. A small country like Rwanda do not fear kenyans - but here is biggest country in East Africa - in land size and population - being the MOST fearful and least ambitious. I mean I see now in Uganda you're trying to advertise Dar Port - but surely when your charge 500 dollars transit fee - who'll come there. You ran to SADC because you rather be South Africa biatches than Kenya..but EAC is still moving ahead..and btw Kenya & UG & Rwanda - we have arguably the most advanced union in Africa - with people moving freely without need of passport or work permit - and trade btw those countries is benefiting everyone. Look at Uganda - their milk & tea & sugar is finding easy market in Kenya - and they are industralizing without the dramas of TZs.

The only sectors working in TZ are 1) Mining - like Nigeria that the hand of god 2) Tourism - mainly from our insecurity due to Alshabab - outside those two sectors - you're very many years from getting to kenya.

You remain one of the most retrogressive country in East Africa and thankfully Ethiopia is turning the corner...and we will focus there..and entire Africa continent.

I am glad to hear about your winery - we have our own wine industry albeit smaller. But if you had embraced East Africa - your wine would be selling in Kenya - but as it is - nobody has heard of Dodoma wine - and yet Kenya consumer market for imported wine is second to Nigeria in SSA. See how your small mindness have dwarfed your growth.

Our own Yatta wines.


Kazikazi:
You talk too much.We are against a full blown political federation not businesses.actually the UK is our biggest investers( its in natural gas production) then followed by China and South africa and Canada( in mining). We are not lazy..just check our wine produce which is ranked second in africa just behind south africa.Is your country doing these?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:00am On Jul 26, 2018
The reputation risk of being a Nigerian is akin to being a black man in western world. It tough being a Nigerian outside Nigeria. They really need to start fixing their reputation by fighting globalized Nigeria criminal network.
kikuyu1:


Here's a true story: almost a decade ago a Dangotelander retiring from the UN developed a small gated community with his generous pension guaranting a loan. Everything was top notch-location,finishing.design etc etc and everyone gushed admiringly but there few takers. Why? Nobody wanted to be associated with what they assumed the behaviour of Dangotelanders.
He realized the obvious sold out for a small loss and within a year the development was 90% occupied! My informant is someone with 3 decades in Nairobi real estate.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 10:02am On Jul 26, 2018
Just30:
the irony of this comment is
i can receive quality specialised medical care here in Ghana and you cant in Nigeria
Since the health care we have in Nigeria can treat me fine IDGAF about yours. So u see we also have better medical care in Nigeria.
Now tell me do you have light rail in Ghana not even light rail sef mono rail cos i know you guys don't have it in your dead backward country!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 10:06am On Jul 26, 2018
wizzzmike:


lol they don't know bro
Do you people have common mono rail in your country. Am just asking grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 10:07am On Jul 26, 2018
gallivant:


Chill out, little boy. lipsrsealed



Angry over what? My biafra is a reality, not a pipe dream like yours and Kanu.
Dick head.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by blackboys: 10:12am On Jul 26, 2018
the Tanzanian guy forgot to show us the real dar es slum

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:42am On Jul 26, 2018
A bridge in tanzania.Now show me something like this.i promise u I will log off here

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 1:08pm On Jul 26, 2018
One million people in Kibera? I love how people are milking donors dry using this stats! grin
srclark:
While being the second largest slum in the world, with nearly one million people living in extreme poverty, the Kenyan Government does not recognize the residents' rights to live there. There is no sewage, few schools and fewer medical facilities.

With a team of about 80 people, I will rebuild a school that has recently burned to the ground. Called "The Big Build", Crossing Thresholds volunteers will resurrect an entire school for 300+ children in just 10 days. I know this will be one of the most challenging but rewarding and eye-opening experiences of my life. I am excited for my trip which begins on June 22.

As background, I was introduced to the idea of traveling to Kibera from Gary Morello, an assistant football coach at Darien High School. Gary is one of the most inspirational people I have ever met and has become a mentor to me. While facing challenges in his life, Gary traveled to help in Kibera ten years ago. He has now made it part of his life's work, while servicing our community as a Minister of the Congregational Church in Darien. I am so lucky to have met Gary and to be traveling with him and the team.

I would love and appreciate the support of friends and family willing to help me reach my fundraising goal.
The money will go directly towards the new school and supplies, in addition to other donations we will be carrying with us for the kids.

Thank you to those that feel the same way I do for these kids who are in need of the most basic necessities. I've been told that seeing their courage, resilience and hope will touch me and remain with me forever.

https://www.gofundme.com/9nv37-kibera-slum-mission-trip

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 1:23pm On Jul 26, 2018
A 14 Billion US dollars budget country can't tell me anything!
Kazikazi:
A bridge in tanzania.Now show me something like this.i promise u I will log off here

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by srclark: 1:46pm On Jul 26, 2018
Jonraid:
One million people in Kibera? I love how people are milking donors dry using this stats! grin
that’s the normal Kenyan way they try to cheat you foolishly
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:01pm On Jul 26, 2018
srclark:
so cause it is banned means it is totally out of circulation are you alright anyways I don’t expect you to be smart you have always been retarded even marijuana that is not as come as plastic bag we still see it hear and there so that’s pointless I have more pictures warming up ,if other countries are claIming to be better than naija it is understandable not useless Kenya the only good thing that has come out of that place is Sauti sol

Dude,loitering around with plastic bags in the Kenyan public domain or keeping them illegally is harshely prohibited and if you are caught with such you will be heavily fined at an amount of 40k USD.Those of which are in small circulation are mostly operated under black markets which rarely even reaches to the eye of most of the market consumers.Don't be too much dogmatic.

Hahaha,that other countries are claiming to be better than Nigeria,they are being honest though.This is a bitter fact that most ignorant nigerians like yourself do refuse to swallow.If you check on the indices of development,most african countries are really better than nigeria e.g Kenya,Rwanda,Ethiopia,Ghana,south africa,botswana and just to mention but a few.You guys have a big poverty population in the world filled with noisemakers claiming some false and useless allegations that nigeria is the best nation in africa.An oil dependent nation grin grin

Some of these nigerians are sham to the extent that they are running away from their country and moving to Kenya in numbers in the name of coming to struggle for living standards with an Average Kenyan...shameless...Have you ever seen kenyans yearning to visit your poo country?

There are very many good things that have come out of Kenya unless you are whirling around in your poverty nation with alot of ignorance.
This is a free fact you can also inquire from your fellow nigerians based in Kenya,most of them even are here illegally.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:07pm On Jul 26, 2018
Jonraid:
One million people in Kibera? I love how people are milking donors dry using this stats! grin

Jonraid,the last time i checked the kibera stats as at 2018 was between 170k-200k.These people from a poverty nation(87million) are just pathetic as the source of their online referrence materials.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:11pm On Jul 26, 2018
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Kazikazi:
A bridge in tanzania.Now show me something like this.i promise u I will log off here
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Don't come here to fool us ; grin grin this is a project that has not even been implemented.
Tanzanians are naturally slow enough to be competent in undertaking their projects.
Two SGR pillars alone they are taking a whole year to erect up.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 2:15pm On Jul 26, 2018
Majority of this donors aren't even Kenya.People are using fake stats to fleece people their hard earned money smh!
srclark:
that’s the normal Kenyan way they try to cheat you foolishly
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 2:18pm On Jul 26, 2018
Yobeezy:
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Don't come here to fool us ; grin grin this is a project that has not even been implemented.
Tanzanians are naturally slow enough to be competent in undertaking their projects.
Two SGR pillars alone they are taking a whole year to erect up.
kigamboni bridge in Tanzania.show me something like this in ur country then I will log off here

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 2:21pm On Jul 26, 2018
This is more epic!
Kazikazi:
A bridge in tanzania.Now show me something like this.i promise u I will log off here

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:40pm On Jul 26, 2018
Kenyanstar:

This is pure case of greed.... Using ignorance as an excuse will not replace the greed as the main reason why Nigerians will spend money to go and get an equivalent of what they will earn. The same thing was happening to Kenyan business men in South Sudan and the Kenyan government blocked Kenyans from going to that country. The same case goes to Gulf countries which have very weak labor laws to Africans. The Kenyan government closed those recruitment job agencies to alt the workforce that had been given expatriate jobs in those countries.
The Nigerian government is the main beneficiary of this multi million dollar scams which involves powerful politicians who earn top dollars from human trafficking, slavery and prostitution in Europe. Ask yourself why the Nigerian presidency has not put stringent measures on those involved on this scam.

Pure case of greed on whose part? The trafficker or the trafficked?
You cannot blame the trafficked cos most trafficked people were deceived! No one from a struggling background will reject the offer to a better life somewhere else. If these trafficked people had known what awaited them in the beyond, do you think they will go?

TayserMahiri:


If Nigerians have a spec of dignity, they would do something tangible to cure this stupidity. Its mind boggling.
Nigeria has a special federal agency created to fight human trafficking. Many culprits have been caught and punished, just that it still continues. There are numerous television and media adverts created to sensitize the masses, however it still persists.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Agency_for_the_Prohibition_of_Trafficking_in_Persons

However, I won't deny the fact that some greed on the part of the trafficked also contributes to this. But deception is still the biggest and major factor here.

For instance the poorest families where I come from (central Nigeria) will hardly never accept an offer for a better life in Europe, because in their mentality, such offers seem too good to be true. Our people are not as materialistc as Southern Nigerians.
However, offer them something smalller which their minds can comprehend like a job in a rich city or neighbourhood within Nigeria and they will accept. Now, these traffickers can still come in this guise and still deceive these people with this, only for them to find themselves in Libya at the end of the day.

I knew a very beautiful teenage girl who was a victim from a poor home. She was very beautiful and had this good figure that befits a model. She was working as a waitress here in Delta state where she met someone who gave her an offer for a job to model for a new clothing line within Lagos. As a young naive 19 year old, she accepted the offer thinking a door has been opened to her to realize her dreams, only for her to be trafficked outside Nigeria at the end of the day.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:47pm On Jul 26, 2018
TayserMahiri:


You see? We dont spare witches in Kenya. In Nigeria the headchoppers continue to wreak havoc every day. Im sure there is a person who lost his head today just for having it and you probably know one who had his head cut off. In kenya, you will not find people who have ever heard of such cultic rituals. Being suspected of doing that in Kenya is enough for society to turn on you in the villages. It is rare to hear of such stories. The story you shared is possibly a decade old. Yea, that rare

Listen to yourself. You belong to the 15th century.

You don't spare witches. What proof do you have that someone is a witch before burning the person alive?

Someone who kills another human beign in the name of diabolism is a culprit and I won't be against someone like that being lynched (although in a civilized clime, that is still barbaric and unlawful, cos you have no rights to take another person's life irrespective of what they've done).

Those elderly people being burnt alive in your 15th century country may be falsely accused people.

Someone could be an African traditionalist by religion, do you burn such a person alive for practicing the religion of his ancestors without physically hurting someone or threatening someone?

Just listen to yourself. You sound like a pure illiterate.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:59pm On Jul 26, 2018
Kenyanstar:

grin grin grin The culture of witch lynching is very true and it is associated to the Kuria community neighboring the Kisii tribe at the Kenya/Tanzania border. The reason why i told you Tanzanians are the capital of witchcraft in East Africa. The Kuria are a large subtribe that co exist between the Tanzanian border and are renowned witchcraft peddlers. This are a very unique witchcraft peddler type of individuals who poison children, relatives and strangers for purely materialistic things. Imagine a person injecting cyanide poison to banana trees, cabbages and general foodstuff to kill you slowly. That is worse than witchcraft, more of murder.
In Kenya we will kill you if you practice that kind of shit by trying to perform rituals on fellow human beings, that guy whom wanted to sale the Albino is lucky he was sentenced in Tanzania to serve jail time, in Kenya we would have burned that idiot to ashes. We dont do witchcraft or rituals. That is an outdated custom only befitted to Nigerians.

I do not care if the tribe in Kenya that burns people alive on accusation of witchcraft shares boundary with Tanzania, Somalia, Uganda, Mauritania or Nicaragua!

They are Kenyan citizens and that is the most important thing!

90% of human ritual killing cases in Nigeria is perpetrated by the Yoruba ethnic group. Yorubas spread into Benin republic and Togo which shares boundary with Ghana.
Infact, some ethnic groups in Ghana apparently are yoruba descendants like the Ewe!

When it comes to the open acceptance of witchcraft practices in the society, Nigerians are big time learners compared to Ghanaians.
In Ghana, witchcraft practices have access to Television airing! I was dumbstruck the day I saw a witch doctor advertising his business on a Ghanaian TV channel. I thought I was the only one who has seen that until I heard from my friends here that they have also seen it too. Nigerians who have lived in Ghana also attested to this.

However, at the end of the day, Yorubas are Nigerians and as a Nigerian, I must accept the shame that the yorubas bring upon us with this archaic practice.

Majority of Nigeria's best musicians are yorubas, they also bring pride to us in this aspect and I accept it as well!

You posted a picture of a human ritualist caught in Nigeria bounded by his hands and legs. He would surely be lynched by a mob if the security enforcement agencies do not quickly intervene.
What does this tell you? As prevalent as this practice is in Nigeria, it is not applauded by the masses. Can you show me a link where a Nigerian caught with human body parts was being applauded by the masses? No!

But in your own Kenya, many people stood and were watching and some even cheering when the poor elderly witchcraft accused citizens were burned alive!

Judge the difference if you have a brain !!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:15pm On Jul 26, 2018
OMANBALA1:


All these because of all these bitter fights with Kenyans?? I can understand your displeasure with the way these guys have attacked Nigeria but you dont have to make things up just to get at them. Kenya has a superior system of governance when compare with Tanzania...Goodness, I hate socialism!!

Of course ,for the most part Kenya is still as backward as Nigeria even more when you compare the challenges the two countries face. Kenya has good scenery that attracts tourism and sometimes people use such images to judge the general state of affairs in the country...False depiction

Yes, I hated socialism just like you.

However, juxtaposing the progress of Socialist China against that of Capitalist India over the years had me have a complete comeback in my thought system as regards this.

Do you think China would have been where they are today if they were not Socialist? Of course not, they would have probably been just like India.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:26pm On Jul 26, 2018
Jay254:


You should ask your self who loves Nigerians let alone in Africa the whole world. Just mention Nigeria in any country and see how different you will be viewed.

I don't expect a person in Nigeria,S.A or even Egypt to hate a Tanzanian. They are the least travelled people in E.A,Rwanda gets more Remittance than Tz with an eighth of Tz population.

Tanzanian is like abeautiful wife with an Urgly heart. They are very kind and friendly but they lead in witchcraft and backbiting around here.

A Tanzanian will smile with you just to back bite you.

You must be kidding me.

Nigeria has the most followed entertainment power outside among other African countries.
Many Nigerians who travel to other Africans countries have attested to how fascinated other Africans sometimes tend to be at their presence.

Yes, many are jealous of us because we have this domineering and loud attitude, however it doesn't change the fact that many more are fascinated about us, thanks to our soft power grin

Here's a photo for you below. A Lesotho woman far away in Southern Africa being so fascinated by Nigerians to the extent that she went public on social media to advertise her availability to any willing Naija guy around grin

cc TayserMahiri,

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by justtoodark: 3:26pm On Jul 26, 2018
kenyans are useless....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 3:49pm On Jul 26, 2018
Kazikazi:
A bridge in tanzania.Now show me something like this.i promise u I will log off here
Don't boder yourself they don't have something like that. Here is Lagos ikoyi bridge Nigeria.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 4:03pm On Jul 26, 2018
Kazikazi:
Yeees.We dont want that thing called a full blown federation.We dont want their thieving nature, their tribalism is too much to even consider associating with them.Thats why we refused to join the EAC common visa.Let them join Somalia or South Sudan not us.

Cc TayserMahiri, Kenyanstar, gallivant grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 4:21pm On Jul 26, 2018
rvp2018:
You're basically against everything including free movement of people & labour & trade. A small country like Rwanda do not fear kenyans - but here is biggest country in East Africa - in land size and population - being the MOST fearful and least ambitious. I mean I see now in Uganda you're trying to advertise Dar Port - but surely when your charge 500 dollars transit fee - who'll come there. You ran to SADC because you rather be South Africa biatches than Kenya..but EAC is still moving ahead..and btw Kenya & UG & Rwanda - we have arguably the most advanced union in Africa - with people moving freely without need of passport or work permit - and trade btw those countries is benefiting everyone. Look at Uganda - their milk & tea & sugar is finding easy market in Kenya - and they are industralizing without the dramas of TZs.

The only sectors working in TZ are 1) Mining - like Nigeria that the hand of god 2) Tourism - mainly from our insecurity due to Alshabab - outside those two sectors - you're very many years from getting to kenya.

You remain one of the most retrogressive country in East Africa and thankfully Ethiopia is turning the corner...and we will focus there..and entire Africa continent.

I am glad to hear about your winery - we have our own wine industry albeit smaller. But if you had embraced East Africa - your wine would be selling in Kenya - but as it is - nobody has heard of Dodoma wine - and yet Kenya consumer market for imported wine is second to Nigeria in SSA. See how your small mindness have dwarfed your growth.

Our own Yatta wines.



Stop deluding yourself. EAC will never be a force to be reckoned with in Africa without Tanzania.
Tanzania has the land mass, population and economy to make EAC two times more significant than it is right now.

Kenya and Kenyans actually have more to benefit with TZ being in that union than vice versa. If I was Tanzanian, I wouldn't also ever support something like the EAC, just as I do not support Nigeria joining the African free trade deal.

Kazikazi is very correct!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:31pm On Jul 26, 2018
jaycent:
Since the health care we have in Nigeria can treat me fine IDGAF about yours. So u see we also have better medical care in Nigeria.
Now tell me do you have light rail in Ghana not even light rail sef mono rail cos i know you guys don't have it in your dead backward country!
who needs a mono rail when they can go full steam with a better modern integrated rail network
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 4:33pm On Jul 26, 2018
Daejoyoung:

53% of Nigerians is about 100 million people, which is more than double the entire population of Kenya.
Perhaps Nigeria should be compared with East Africa henceforth.

Negro,you still can't comprehend the concept of per capita! After all this time.....SMFH!?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 4:36pm On Jul 26, 2018
Kazikazi:
Tanzania..it is through hard work not too much talk in media

How many Kikuyus farm tea in Morogoro? Am told at least 2 hundred settled there post Uhuru with others near Tabora and are now Tzns. Can you confirm?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:37pm On Jul 26, 2018
Nowenuse:


I do not care if the tribe in Kenya that burns people alive on accusation of witchcraft shares boundary with Tanzania, Somalia, Uganda, Mauritania or Nicaragua!

They are Kenyan citizens and that is the most important thing!

90% of human ritual killing cases in Nigeria is perpetrated by the Yoruba ethnic group. Yorubas spread into Benin republic and Togo which shares boundary with Ghana.
Infact, some ethnic groups in Ghana apparently are yoruba descendants like the Ewe!

When it comes to the open acceptance of witchcraft practices in the society, Nigerians are big time learners compared to Ghanaians.
In Ghana, witchcraft practices have access to Television airing! I was dumbstruck the day I saw a witch doctor advertising his business on a Ghanaian TV channel. I thought I was the only one who has seen that until I heard from my friends here that they have also seen it too. Nigerians who have lived in Ghana also attested to this.

However, at the end of the day, Yorubas are Nigerians and as a Nigerian, I must accept the shame that the yorubas bring upon us with this archaic practice.

Majority of Nigeria's best musicians are yorubas, they also bring pride to us in this aspect and I accept it as well!

You posted a picture of a human ritualist caught in Nigeria bounded by his hands and legs. He would surely be lynched by a mob if the security enforcement agencies do not quickly intervene.
What does this tell you? As prevalent as this practice is in Nigeria, it is not applauded by the masses. Can you show me a link where a Nigerian caught with human body parts was being applauded by the masses? No!

But in your own Kenya, many people stood and were watching and some even cheering when the poor elderly witchcraft accused citizens were burned alive!

Judge the difference if you have a brain !!
it is very easy to creat a digital channel and broadcast in Ghana
Ewes and Ga in Ghana are not Yoruba people
their language doesn't even have similarities with any yoruba language
They only transited through Nigeria
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 4:40pm On Jul 26, 2018
kikuyu1:


Negro,you still can't comprehend the concept of per capita! After all this time.....SMFH!?
Negro, per capita is almost always lower for populated countries. l have said it before, the tragedy is in having a small country like Kenya lag behind in per capita developments compared to populated ( equally problematic)countries.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 4:40pm On Jul 26, 2018
Jonraid:
One million people in Kibera? I love how people are milking donors dry using this stats! grin

We've already told Dangotelanders Idk how many times! That's the real reason that tired narrative will never die even though its as old as the pyramids!

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