Themandator:



Hall knowledge is more dangerous than no knowledge. It would be better if you don't know anything about Christianity than have this nonsense you wrote as the correct position of the scripture.


Firstly, God doesn't give money since there is no money in heaven. If you receive money from God then it has to be counterfeit since it is government of nations that prints money. God gives power to get wealth through the manifestation of his blessings in and upon your life....see Deut 8 :18

secondly, Christ wore quality clothings. The soldiers had to Cast lots after he had died to share his clothes... You don't cast lot over rags...see Matt 27:35... Do you know any sars operatives that would Cast lotvto share the clothes of an armed robber that have killed if the clothes are Aba made?

he was a special prisoner and anybody will want his clothes, be it rag or not... By the way by then people wealthy people wear gold bracelets and necklace around thier neck and arm... Why wasn't he wearing one... I know u've been vombified by one of this G.O churches... Are u trying to tell me God will prefer you give your money to your already rich pastors than help poor and hungry Christians? Be wise, the scripture is a cypher that can be cracked to have multiple meaning... Don't be deceived that's my advice, if u like call me what ever you want when u're calm sit down and reason

lexy2014:
if i get d people who can corroborate d story, do I bring them 2u?

Nah, just Nairalanders that can

Jethrolite:
Become a witness, marry her then leave Jwit.

The absurd thing about witnesses is that they believe everyone outside their congregation is unsaved even Christians. I love most of their doctrines but this one is a pile of elephant sh!t.

Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Feel That They Are the Only People Who Will Be Saved?
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No. Many millions who lived in centuries past and who weren’t Jehovah’s Witnesses will have an opportunity for salvation. The Bible explains that in God’s promised new world, “there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.” (Acts 24:15) Additionally, many now living may yet begin to serve God, and they too will gain salvation. In any case, it’s not our job to judge who will or won’t be saved. That assignment rests squarely in Jesus’ hands.—John 5:22, 27.

Wizedoc:

Please I'll like to know some churches in Nigeria that pays taxes and how the churches know how much to pay as tax. Thank you

they pay what corporate affairs commission call annual returns yearly

Wizedoc:

Please I'll like to know some churches in Nigeria that pays taxes and how the churches know how much to pay as tax. Thank you

they pay a certain % of the total income after subtracting its expenses

intergral:
he was a special prisoner and anybody will want his clothes, be it rag or not... By the way by then people wealthy people wear gold bracelets and necklace around thier neck and arm... Why wasn't he wearing one... I know u've been vombified by one of this G.O churches... Are u trying to tell me God will prefer you give your money to your already rich pastors than help poor and hungry Christians? Be wise, the scripture is a cypher that can be cracked to have multiple meaning... Don't be deceived that's my advice, if u like call me what ever you want when u're calm sit down and reason

Half knowledge is a very dangerous knowledge to posses. Jesus, the same one that got money cheaply from the mouth of a fish wore cheap rag that soldiers had to cast lot. The same Jesus that fed five thousand men excluding women and children with two fish and five loaves of bread wore rags.. If he could make this two happen and yet wore rag then he was faking it and that would amount to wilfully sinning against heaven


The society that Jesus was born into wasn't that of gold and silver. Those were ceremonial adornment for kings. Priest of the old testament wore those according to God's instructions. They were sown into their clothings ad patterned according to God's instructions. The Jews don't wear gold and silver. They are hooded from head to toe like monks. Get yourself properly informed because what you parade as knowledge is toxic to you and everyone around you


At any rate, Jesus already had boxes of choice treasures like gold, silver and frankincense as a baby. Why would any sane person wear coal tar on his neck? Yes that is what gold is to Jesus...the street of his father's mansion are done in gold


Have yourself some bless day today

Netanyahu1:
did you say tax?

yeah,before a church operates they get registered at d corporate affairs commission thou majority of churches aren't registered n they pay tax(annual returns) its a yearly payment, thou d government ve not been too strict

Hairyrapunzel:


See someone that can't check internet telling me to check internet. If I didn't check internet I wouldn't have been able to point out your lies. Rumor monger, peddler of falsehood and staunch liar

It doesn't change the fact that Catholicism = Islam. You people's hand are filled with human blood.

TLisieux:
How do JW fund their Kingdom hall buildings and other projects? I am curious.

They do all these voluntarily
Sometimes members from other assemblies nearby come together to help

Hairyrapunzel:

Your blood transfusion ban that has killed millions of jws nko? Are you guys not still killing your members? Everyone has killed including your organization. You guys are just like the rest

Hahahahhahahahaha Hahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahaha!
Ignorant and proud. The rejection of blood based treatment has not killed anyone, instead it is the bad medical facilities in this useless country that has killed people, and it continues killing people everyday, and not just JWs. In sane countries you hardly hear of it, yes sometimes people die in their hospitals, Ie Stella Obasanjo, sbe died in Spain. Omar Bongo of Gabon died in Barcelona, YaraDua died in Saudi Arabia, they died in top hospitals around the world, but the rate at which people die in nigerian hospitals is sky high as a result of poor and very bad medical facilities not the Rejection of bloodless medicine.

Why do doctors reject the treatment on THEMSELVES AND THIER FAMILIES? Why os the US millitary focusing so much attention to bloodless medicine in the battle field for their wounded soldiers? Does Blood transfusions guarantee long life, or are you merely importing someone else's blood and problems into yourself? The Bible says ABSTAIN FROM BLOOD, THINGS THAT ARE STRANGLED AND FROM IDOLS.

Hairyrapunzel:


Buhaha. It's like you are reading watchtower magazine as your medical textbook. Quote the medical journal that said doctors don't want blood transfusion?
Show me the source where us soldiers no longer use blood transfusion?
Your claims are all lies till you quote source and it must be from a reputable medical journal.
What concerns watchtower with military medical procedure?
Come and tell me where they said the us army used bloodless surgery/medicine to treat very severe anemia?

Watchtower will lie about situations to propagate their killer doctrines.
Your organization kills people.
War criminals kill people. They both use different mechanisms
Watchtower denies that people ever die from refusing blood transfusion even though they put small children who died because they refused blood transfusion in 1994 awake. War criminals deny ever killing people even with evidence everywhere.
Killer organization

Ignorant and Proud! Google is your friend. Stop being ignorant.

Hairyrapunzel:

Cornelius was not a Christian. Buhaha. Lol.
See how you are moving goalposts? When your beliefs are not biblically backed this is what happens. Why can't you speak and advocate for human kingdom? Is God against speaking and advocating for humanity? This your jehovah has so many he didn't talk about in the Bible. David and Solomon you guys want to be like were human leaders.
So serving two masters is now speaking and advocating for God's kingdom and human kingdom?
David and Solomon served two masters.

Where did God say speaking and advocating for human kingdom is not advocating and speaking for God's kingdom?

You see? I don't even know when I said that Cornelius is not a Christian, you are trying to put words into my mouth. I wonder who is changing goal post now. David and Solomon's case is different from yours and tht of Cornelius, Christianity started with Christ, but ignorant trolls like you find it difficult to understand because you don't want to, Christ started Christianity and no one else but CHRIST. CHRISTIANITY MEANS CHRISTLIKE, CHRIST IS A PACIFIST AND DID NOT GO TO WAR, HE SAID IT THAT THOSE WHO LIVE BY THE SWORD DIE BY IT.

Themandator:




You stretch the scripture to cover human doctrine,somebody cared to confront you now you have gone historical. Just say your church idea of not joining the army is their doctrine with no scriptural support and be be done. Why did you have to bring Cornelius to justify your human doctrine

Ignorant and Proud. Christianity means Christlike, dis Christ Join the army? Did he join the Jewish revolution against the Romans, in fact the Jews wanted to kill him when they discovered that he was liberated people spiritually when they thought that he will use his power to liberate them from the Roman bondage. The fact that the Romans were ruling over the Jews is a historical fact that is indisputable. Okay? Just as the Bible is not a science text book but makes correct scientific statements, now those scientific facts that were not mentioned in the Bible are not facts according to your ignorant and pompous claim. That a bit of everyday life and custom of the Roman is not recorded in the doesn't mean it did not happen. The Bible is not a history text book, but it is accurate when ever it mentions any historical fact, just as it is not a science text book but makes correct scientific statements.

Peterosky:
.My dear you don't need to kill yourself to defend what you really don't know.I don't want to tell you my story cause I will like to open a thread about it.In my church, you can be suspended for not paying your tithe.So what can you say about that? Are we not being forced to pay tithes and offerings?

Then that is not a church because the people won't be blessed when they are forced to do something against their will. You have no business remaining in such a church.

dometome:
Ignorant and Proud. Christianity means Christlike, dis Christ Join the army? Did he join the Jewish revolution against the Romans, in fact the Jews wanted to kill him when they discovered that he was liberated people spiritually when they thought that he will use his power to liberate them from the Roman bondage. The fact that the Romans were ruling over the Jews is a historical fact that is indisputable. Okay? Just as the Bible is not a science text book but makes correct scientific statements, now those scientific facts that were not mentioned in the Bible are not facts according to your ignorant and pompous claim. That a bit of everyday life and custom of the Roman is not recorded in the doesn't mean it did not happen. The Bible is not a history text book, but it is accurate when ever it mentions any historical fact, just as it is not a science text book but makes correct scientific statements.

You or another person made a post that Cornelius resigned from the army after his encounter. Another person asked you to help with the scripture that told you that. You didn't not need embark on a merry go round. Just give the scripture.

If it is not in the scripture, you are practicing religion. Man's personal effort to be in right relationship with God as against the scriptural prescription.


All this rigmarole won't help your case. Again, I ask, Did Cornelius resign from the army?

deepwater:


They have a huge work force base in every country of their operation.

Here in Nigeria, they operate from Igieduma in Edo State otherwise referred to as Bethel.

In there , they have thousands of volunteers in different discipline to assist in every aspect they may require. They are skilled, semi skilled and so like that. With such volunteers for free, you may wish to agree that funds would be just a minor faction to erecting structures. And yes they don't pay salaries to their volunteers(as they always say) but they have other volunteers that do the cooking, another that do the farming and another that does just about any other thing. It's like a system of government where you trade in barter by helping some group do what your group can and the other groups help your group whey they can. That way money becomes almost insignificant.

But hey man. That sheet is a cult.
So many rules, u don't fuxk doggy style, u don't keep goatees, u don't pray with others, no allegiance to the country, no singing of national anthem, no joining of military, no smoking but you can drink to stupor and no anal sex,

Na some lies u talk for the last points. No one tells u not to ise doggy on ur wife. Issues concerning that is personal. As for anal, is d vagina not enough that u have to use anus whoch is a shit pathway

deepwater:


They have a huge work force base in every country of their operation.

Here in Nigeria, they operate from Igieduma in Edo State otherwise referred to as Bethel.

In there , they have thousands of volunteers in different discipline to assist in every aspect they may require. They are skilled, semi skilled and so like that. With such volunteers for free, you may wish to agree that funds would be just a minor faction to erecting structures. And yes they don't pay salaries to their volunteers(as they always say) but they have other volunteers that do the cooking, another that do the farming and another that does just about any other thing. It's like a system of government where you trade in barter by helping some group do what your group can and the other groups help your group whey they can. That way money becomes almost insignificant.

But hey man. That sheet is a cult.
So many rules, u don't fuxk doggy style, u don't keep goatees, u don't pray with others, no allegiance to the country, no singing of national anthem, no joining of military, no smoking but you can drink to stupor and no anal sex,

No f. uck.ing doggystyle is not true.

budusky05:


Are u one?

Positive.

dometome:
It is true that it wasn't recorded in the scriptures, but we can tell very well that, since Christians were pacifists, being in the army will only negate that fact, mind you that in the Roman empires, being a high ranking official in the army was an easy way to make it into the Roman Senate, Cornelius did not get to that extent, he was paid sixteen times the wage of a day labourer, so he clearly had the means. I asked you a question, okay let me bring it home, during the world war 2 The German church fathers prayed over and blessed the weapons of the Nazis, the Nazis used the weapons to march into France and killed very many Catholics, while the Christian way is that of peace and agape love, so where is the love?

But you initially said it categorically and authoritatively that Cornelius resigned from the army after conversion. So why the shift of goalpost now? Do you think the scriptures would have omitted it if resignation from the army were a post-conversion requirement?
The Bible itself says that the scripture, as it is, is just enough to teach us all we really need to know in order to please God.
John The Baptist only admonished his guest soldiers in the wilderness to refrain from abuse of their profession for oppression and pervertion of justice. He didn't ask them to stop being soldiers after baptizing them.
The cases of German Nazis vs Catholics were all instances of abuse of the military. Don't religious leaders of every religious group abuse their positions? Does that now make the whole idea of religion evil?

Christianity is not absolutely pacifist as you would have us believe. Christianity advocates self defence where necessary and possible, and defending yourself could sometimes entail physically injuring your attacker in such a way that incapacitates him from further hurting you.
If a Fulani Herdsman comes around with the intention of killing everyone in your family and you have access to a gun, would you take a seat and watch him just because you are a pacifist demonstrating agape love?

Nigeriadondie:

Na some lies u talk for the last points. No one tells u not to ise doggy on ur wife. Issues concerning that is personal. As for anal, is d vagina not enough that u have to use anus whoch is a shit pathway

It will surprise you to know all that u call personal actually have publications from the watch tower
say no more son

nwanyiugbo122:
Positive.

Same here. Contact me princewill.buduka77@gmail.com.

dometome:
Hahahahhahahahaha Hahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahaha!
Ignorant and proud. The rejection of blood based treatment has not killed anyone, instead it is the bad medical facilities in this useless country that has killed people, and it continues killing people everyday, and not just JWs. In sane countries you hardly hear of it, yes sometimes people die in their hospitals, Ie Stella Obasanjo, sbe died in Spain. Omar Bongo of Gabon died in Barcelona, YaraDua died in Saudi Arabia, they died in top hospitals around the world, but the rate at which people die in nigerian hospitals is sky high as a result of poor and very bad medical facilities not the Rejection of bloodless medicine.

Why do doctors reject the treatment on THEMSELVES AND THIER FAMILIES? Why os the US millitary focusing so much attention to bloodless medicine in the battle field for their wounded soldiers? Does Blood transfusions guarantee long life, or are you merely importing someone else's blood and problems into yourself? The Bible says ABSTAIN FROM BLOOD, THINGS THAT ARE STRANGLED AND FROM IDOLS.

In Biology it is a principle that meat from which blood is 100℅ removed is very whitish. But you buy and eat Red meat from the markets yet you claim you forbid eating or taking blood and blood products. What an interesting irony!

Themandator:




You or another person made a post that Cornelius resigned from the army after his encounter. Another person asked you to help with the scripture that told you that. You didn't not need embark on a merry go round. Just give the scripture.

If it is not in the scripture, you are practicing religion. Man's personal effort to be in right relationship with God as against the scriptural prescription.


All this rigmarole won't help your case. Again, I ask, Did Cornelius resign from the army?

Thank you very much. He categorically initially ascribed it to the scriptures but when asked to reference the exact scriptures he went into a conjectural merry-go-round. That is what they are known for.

dometome:
Hahahahahahahahahahahhahahh Hahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahaha!
The question I asked is simple, where is the love? How hard can that be?
That it wasn't recorded in the scriptures doesn't mean it did not happen. Cornelius would certainly have become a member of the Senate if he continued as a soldier in the army, when he retires, but he did not become a senator, which means that he must have resigned, his Christlike life will not permit him to go to war and he can no longer be paid by the Roman government if he doesn't carry out his duties, is he tge only one? No! Even Theophilus (though he wasn't a soldier but a high ranking official that he was addressed as his Excellency by Apostle Paul). Use your head!

Since when did conjectures become permitted in defending ones doctrines supposedly based on the scriptures?
If it's non-mention in the scriptures doesn't mean it didn't happen, then it could as well mean it didn't really happen. Conjecturing runs in two directions. So why choose the one direction that favours your sentiment?

Hairyrapunzel:


You want us to show you video where your governing body was telling and urging people to donate money, real estate, bond, stocks, shares jewelry etc. Mtchewww. Did I tell you not to go to your jw? You come here to accuse pentecostals whereas money doesn't fall from the sky in your religion. You say you donate voluntarily yet your magazines, websites and your TV programmes have places where they tell you what to donate, how to donate and where to donate. Hypocrites

Please stop using...'your'. Already told you i'm not a fan of the white mans religion.

However, I'll like to see the video you talked about.

dometome:
You cannot be Christian and be a politician at the same time, You are advocating for God's Kingdom and advocating for Human kingdom at the same time. You must find one and stick with it, because you cannot serve two masters at a time.

You are dead wrong.
Just before Jesus was taken back up to heaven His disciples asked Him if He would at that moment restore the earthly kingdom of Israel to them. That means the closest followers of Jesus were interested in how they were being politically governed and were seeking political independence from the Roman Empire. Did Jesus scold or rebuke them for their interest in politics and earthly governance? No.
Jesus even promised them that the time would come when their political aspirations would be fulfilled by the God they were serving through Him.
That was Jesus'own approval of political participation (i.e the advocacy of human kingdom) by his own disciples whom he had already also given the commission and mandate to advocate God's kingdom.

Also, in Romans 16:23 Paul sent greetings to some believers from another believer Erastus who was the city treasurer. City treasurership is a position of earthy governance derived from political involvement. Why did Paul address Erastus as a fellow believer if political participation violates Christianity tenets?

The problem with you JWs is that you just want to outwardly appear different from others in order to deceive gullible unbelievers that you are better than everyone else. In your wierd quest for being different you invent human assumptions and propagate them in manners that depict them as derived from the Bible. When the discerning Christians challenge you to prove those human laws with the scriptures you delve into logic and historical account as if human error bound records of history are more authentic than the Bible itself which is God's own record of the same history.

You don't need human records or results of human researches to prove the Bible right or wrong. Before Ferdinand Magellan undertook the circumnavigation voyage, the Bible had already recorded that the earth is spherical. Waiting for the results of human researches to corroborate biblical facts before accepting their veracity is blasphemous as it suggests that God's words must need human approval and confirmation before being accepted by believers.

Nigeriadondie:

Na some lies u talk for the last points. No one tells u not to ise doggy on ur wife. Issues concerning that is personal. As for anal, is d vagina not enough that u have to use anus whoch is a shit pathway

This one you are defending the witnesses, are you one ?

deepwater:


It will surprise you to know all that u call personal actually have publications from the watch tower
say no more son

I would be glad if u can refer me to any publication that points it out

otuekong1:
yeah,before a church operates they get registered at d corporate affairs commission thou majority of churches aren't registered n they pay tax(annual returns) its a yearly payment, thou d government ve not been too strict

What I know is that churches are audited yearly, just to make sure they are not being run as business. They are to be not for profit as such are not supposed to pay taxes.

On the other pastors are not supposed to be living lavishly on church money either. In countries that enforce the law pastors are put in jail for spending more than 10% of the donations.

Nigeriadondie:

I would be glad if u can refer me to any publication that points it out

My brother we dont type because we have fingers

https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/quotes/oral-anal-sex.php

Themandator:



Then that is not a church because the people won't be blessed when they are forced to do something against their will. You have no business remaining in such a church.

.That is already my decision. Thanks all the same.