OfficialAPCNig:
So denying an applicant job for breaking our standards is bias?

Ok, they should go to court, we would gladly meet them there.

What dirty stuvpid standards? Who created those standards, and said there were valid?

What if your name was called first, as I was called in first at one Interview in IGI. In this case their list is made already and they call, what will you do NOT GO?

OfficialAPCNig:
Don't Enter The Interview Room First or Last

Don't ever dare this.

... Be Right Back

phemmyfour:
liar! Even a ridiculous email like "killmenow" @.... work with Chevron

We have done mass recruitment for Shell. In fact I know their Head of HR, in PH. She had been transferred to Lagos.

Believe me, that email won't fly, unless through placement or specialized recruitment.

Do you know their is something we call we recruitment audit, 3 months after every recruitment. Every single thing you submitted would be verified again.

If you are using that email, then it means you must be extremely good.

LaudableXX:

What dirty stuvpid standards? Who created those standards, and said there were valid?

Have you ever handled 11,000 applications at once in your life?

If you have not, then withdraw those statements.

Timothyoj:
What if your name was called first, as I was called in first at one Interview in IGI. In this case their list is made already and they call, what will you do NOT GO?

I will address that soon.

OfficialAPCNig:
Use A Professional Email Address

I don't about other Recruiters, but for me, a stupid email address will never earn an invite from me.

What the heck are, Chizzybaby@gmail.com, Zainab4luv@yahoo.com? Seriously, these ain't email anyone seriously looking for job should be associating with.

Personally, I prefer emails with the applicants' full name or first name.

Try as much as possible not to use numbers in your email address, only when necessary.

Something like this is manageable, LekanAzeez86@gmail.com but Lekan86@gmail.com is unacceptable to me.

Officiallekan@gmail.com, IamLekan@gmail.com, LekanOfficial@gmail.com are all acceptable to me.

Is anything wrong with "JanesDung021@gmail.com

LaudableXX:

No, sir. His points were NOT valid in any way. He simply discarded those e-mail addresses due to his inner prejudice, without giving any concrete reason. Which law says that an applicant's e-mail address must consist only of his name?? In reality, I know people who got high-flying jobs, using e-mail addresses that did not contain their names! I got 3 multinational jobs, using my personal e-mail address which does not even reflect my own name. So what is he saying? He is just trying to sound important. His post is nothing, but a lot of hot air!

I repeat: a recruiter does not have any business with your e-mail address. His business should only be with your CV or resume! End of story.

Thank you o
You just nailed it

Rebekkah:
DON'T JUDGE A BOOK BY IT'S COVER, the cliché stands

Using your name as your address is good, nevertheless, If the email ad isn't too bad like the one LaudableXX suggested, y not? Don't wait for a full name ad like onikolapoomojogbodarasimiolowogbogboro@hotmail.com before you proceed.

Some recruiters actually request to attach the cover letter so as to print a hard copy of it, and many don't like lengthy emails (myself, e.g). Do indicate your preference while advertising. I support putting a little introduction of your skills in job emails, though.


Try as much as you can to go through a candidate's documents. Only discard CVs if THEY ARE NOT TAILORED OR SUIT THE ROLE not because they are unimpressive. Nigerian recruiters have this annoying habit of not doing so. Imagine an interviewer asking a candidate "do you have any experience/education" while he/she has a copy of the candidate's CV in hand. You have to make them feel you want to study them even as you expect them to study your company.
Reasonable enquiries will focus on their potentials and what they have to offer not on obvious facts.

So many wrong people are in the right positions already because of recruiter bias

Another display of incompetence by recruiters is the act of sending undetailed IVs. How will an invitee acknowledge this?
e.g,

You're invited for an interview
on Mt. Everest
Tuesday by 11:00am bla bla bla...

no position indicated, what if you're a scammer?

THE COWARDLY ACT OF NOT NOTIFYING FAILED CANDIDATES OR saying "WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU" when you plan not to. SO GROSS & DUMB– attitude of lazy recruiters.

Be nice to all candidates. That one you rejected yesterday could hire you tomorrow.

Oh my dear, may you live long! You just took the words right out of my mouth. These days, anyone can follow the so-called 'rules' just to get noticed by a recruiter, and called up for an interview.

But the real test is in the suitability of the candidates for the job, and how much skill, knowledge, ability and expertise, he is able to bring on board. Some people have the most professional e-mail addresses, the best CVs etc, why? Because they have employed so called experts, to help them rewrite their CVs and create professional e-mail addresses, and also teach them how to answer standard interview questions.

Put them on a job, that requires them to think outside the box, or apply specific skills to resolve an aberrant situation, and then you see their sheer incompetence, shining through!

One of the best candidates I ever employed was a guy who sent me his CV. After reading through his CV, I was fascinated by one of his hobbies. So I called him up for an interview. That was when I noticed his e-mail address. It was excalibur@drx.com. Well, being a true fan of the mythical King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table in Camelot, I was intrigued.

During the interview, I discovered he had skills in other IT areas, not even listed in his CV, that would come in useful on another project we were about to embark upon. Guess what? We employed him, sharp-sharp. He proved to be one of our best hires, ever. He was always quick on the ball, and had a great aptitude for designing creative solutions, and thinking outside the box! On one of the projects he handled for us, we made an additional 35% profit, because the client was impressed with the way he executed it. He was later head-hunted from our firm, by that same client, and we were really sorry to let him go.

My own submission is simple. Give everyone a level playing field. Disenfranchising a potential candidate, by using a criteria that does not add any value whatsoever to his ability to do the job, is highly unfair. Did the recruiter put it in his job advert, that submissions should be only made using e-mail addresses that contain the candidate's full name?

OfficialAPCNig:
Learn To Acknowledge Invites Properly

Seriously, if I send my invites, I will never ask you to acknowledge them like many Recruiters do. But if I fail to get your invite 24 hours to the date of the interview, you won't be cleared for the interview.

It is something you should do without being asked. Anyway I stopped asking applicants for their acknowledgment when I got 2 silly acknowledgments from 2 unserious dudes.

The first one was:

Ok, I will be there

The second one was:

I won't come because I am living in Abuja.

I didn't clear the first one for the interview and so he didn't see his name on the Clearance List.

The second dude just lost out because we would be recruiting for one company for the same position in Kaduna and that opening comes with an accommodation

I would have him about it if he had acknowledged my invite properly. If he had consented, since I was in possession of his CV already, I would have transferred him automatically to that opening and forward his CV to our Recruiter there.

Imagine, a top Recruiter referring an applicant. You know what that means.

Good CV just became useless because of useless acknowledgement.

Many of you might be wondering what a Clearance List is.

This is a compilation of all the names of the successful Applicants. It shows their name and position applied for. All they need to do is just sign and enter the time.

We noticed that a lot of job seekers are gate crashing out interviews without been invited. So we devised that means to check them.

Let me give you an expo. A lot of companies are not using this Clearance List but rather Attendance List.

So monitor any company you want to work for, on the day of their interview, just dress well, go there and sign in. They will collect your CV at the venue and interview you as well. If you are successful, you would be employed.

But for us, NEVER!!!

I was so shocked when I received a call from jobberman asking for my permission to send my cv to a company. It felt great...

LaudableXX:

No, sir. His points were NOT valid in any way. He simply discarded those e-mail addresses due to his inner prejudice, without giving any concrete reason. Which law says that an applicant's e-mail address must consist only of his name?? In reality, I know people who got high-flying jobs, using e-mail addresses that did not contain their names! I got 3 multinational jobs, using my personal e-mail address which does not even reflect my own name. So what is he saying? He is just trying to sound important. His post is nothing, but a lot of hot air!

I repeat: a recruiter does not have any business with your e-mail address. His business should only be with your CV or resume! End of story.

Why dont you try applying for a job with Ernst and Young with femiprettygals@yahoo.com.I would take the advise of a recruiter any day.I doubt you have a good job or you are anywhere near a good job.A recruiter has just published expo on acing interviews and you are complaining.Some Nigerian youths should be used as sacrifice to the god of nothing.

And honestly I think you sound very arrogant and with terrible decorum and you call yourself a recruiter? Na wao, no wonder this nation is in a mess.

If you like follow all the above stated rules, if the hiring manager does not like you, no show for you. Getting jobs these days some times lies on networking with the right persons who have a say in the hiring decision. These rules you stated do not apply in every situations.
More so, you are among those arrogant recruiters we have nowadays, why should you judge a candidate on the basis of his email address name...? Doing so is unfair to the candidate. How does email address name affects the candidate's experience and skills, so far a candidate meet the job qualification requirements, he should be given the chance to sale his candidacy.

OfficialAPCNig:

I don't know about other Recruiters, but it is a no-no for me.

I only forgive numbers if I believe that name had be taken and the number should just be 2 and since you are using dot in your address you don't need numbers again. It makes it cluttered.

Akim.thomas@gmail.com
Akimthomas45@gmail.com

You are not serious. Are you hiring email address or you hiring skills? So if you see a skilled person for the job you will discard him because of email address?

orbitalgis:
Why dont you try applying for a job with Ernst and Young with femiprettygals@yahoo.com.I would take the advise of a recruiter any day.I doubt you have a good job or you are anywhere near a good job.A recruiter has just published expo on acing interviews and you are complaining.Some Nigerian youths should be used as sacrifice to the god of nothing.

Cut the crap. I have worked with 3 top multinational firms over the past 10 years, and I used a personal e-mail address, that did not contain any of my names. In one case, I was actually head-hunted by the second company. One of those multinational firms posted me to 4 different countries on 3 continents to carry out different assignments, over a period of two years. Ernst and Young is one of the firms that worked for the company. And I once had a chance to vet their bills. So you need to know that you are not talking to a novice.

As a young candidate seeking a job, I would advise you to develop your IQ, master your craft, acquire relevant certifications in your field, volunteer for different causes, expand your knowledge, and improve yourself as much as possible, so that anyone would see from your CV, the immense value you are likely to bring to any company that decides to hire you.

Rebekkah:
DON'T JUDGE A BOOK BY IT'S COVER, the cliché stands

Using your name as your address is good, nevertheless, If the email ad isn't too bad like the one LaudableXX suggested, y not? Don't wait for a full name ad like onikolapoomojogbodarasimiolowogbogboro@hotmail.com before you proceed.

Some recruiters actually request to attach the cover letter so as to print a hard copy of it, and many don't like lengthy emails (myself, e.g). Do indicate your preference while advertising. I support putting a little introduction of your skills in job emails, though.


Try as much as you can to go through a candidate's documents. Only discard CVs if THEY ARE NOT TAILORED OR SUIT THE ROLE not because they are unimpressive. Nigerian recruiters have this annoying habit of not doing so. Imagine an interviewer asking a candidate "do you have any experience/education" while he/she has a copy of the candidate's CV in hand. You have to make them feel you want to study them even as you expect them to study your company.
Reasonable enquiries will focus on their potentials and what they have to offer not on obvious facts.

So many wrong people are in the right positions already because of recruiter bias

Another display of incompetence by recruiters is the act of sending undetailed IVs. How will an invitee acknowledge this?
e.g,

You're invited for an interview
on Mt. Everest
Tuesday by 11:00am bla bla bla...

no position indicated, what if you're a scammer?

THE COWARDLY ACT OF NOT NOTIFYING FAILED CANDIDATES OR saying "WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU" when you plan not to. SO GROSS & DUMB– attitude of lazy recruiters.

Be nice to all candidates. That one you rejected yesterday could hire you tomorrow.

Can I buy you a beer?

Because you just nailed it all

Delivar:
You are not serious. Are you hiring email address or you hiring skills? So if you see a skilled person for the job you will discard him because of email address?

Help me ask him, o!

My email address falls under the category of the type you ld discard but I have gotten invites from multinationals and I have worked with one before using the same email.I got an invite from Amazon using the same email address,I didn't land the job though but it wasn't because of the email.
I ld rather be focused on competency of the candidate than his or her email address.

OfficialAPCNig:

So denying an applicant job for breaking our standards is bias?

Ok, they should go to court, we would gladly meet them there.

Such response already sums up who you are/ the kind of organisation you work with. Its a shame that people like you are in the HR practice.

OfficialAPCNig:

We have done mass recruitment for Shell. In fact I know their Head of HR, in PH. She had been transferred to Lagos.

Believe me, that email won't fly, unless through placement or specialized recruitment.

Do you know their is something we call we recruitment audit, 3 months after every recruitment. Every single thing you submitted would be verified again.

If you are using that email, then it means you must be extremely good.

Sir/ ma....pls you don't need to defend your position to anyone. Reality check shows there are far more applicants than good jobs. There are millions of graduates but few are employable in world class organisations.

You created this post to help some people who would learn from this. No need to defend yourself at all. Whoever feels strongly about your suggestions should discard it. Advice is not abuse as they say in local circles.

This is a generational problem.....the old brigade were well trained and tutored by the best Nigerian teachers and educationists seasoned with the varied experience of foreigners -British, Ghanian, Indian and Pakistani....this matters and counts. Fast forward today you have schools in 2 bedroom apartments manned by partly qualified fellows..what do you expect?

Finally, many world class companies are bothered about reputational issues and also check social media for posts and opinions before they make an offer to candidates hence the term the internet does not forgive is very real.

He who has ears let him hear that's all. If you don't care you don't need to abuse the poster who is acting in good faith!

If you like follow all the above stated rules, if the hiring manager does not like you, no show for you. Getting jobs these days some times lies on networking with the right persons who have a say in the hiring decision. These rules you stated do not apply in every situations.
More so, you are among those arrogant recruiters we have nowadays, why should you judge a candidate on the basis of his email address name...? Doing so is unfair to the candidate. How does email address name affects the candidate's experience and skills, so far a candidate meet the job qualification requirements, he should be given the chance to sale his candidacy.

souljaboi51:


This where you are wrong. The fact that it is not the case in your country does not mean it does not apply else where.

I did a masters in international HRM in uk (emphasis on international) and i can tell you for a fact that companies have been sactioned for being bias towards candidates. One of my temp lecturers who happened to be a police commissioner in uk was sanctioned just because they did not want to employ someone who was disabled. They cited security reasons as why the person could not be hired. Guess what, the candidate sued and it was ruled in her favour. I have many examples of where companies are sued for bias (both conscious and unconscious) i know this cos my dissertation was on it.

Sir, the key word there is Disabled, that can as well be included in my list. You're not permitted to discriminate on physiological framework of a person especially if it can be proven that the lack of mobility in a part of the body doesn't hinder the person from performing at the role. That applies in some country not all.
Show me a specific example limited to the scope of what we are discussing here, the email username. I maintain go anywhere in the world, you will never win a case against a bias for denial of privilege on premise of email address except it can be related to race, sex, colour, gender, religion and/or disability.

Why pay attention to the same APC HR that recruited Buhari for Nigeria.....shift go one side jari.

OfficialAPCNig:
Have you ever handled 11,000 applications at once in your life?

If you have not, then withdraw those statements.

And so? Why not hire additional hands to tackle the job? Or is it a crime? Or can't you use apps to screen the CVs? And why not spread the exercise of reviewing those applications over a couple of weeks, so that you can devote enough time to the task? Due to your laziness, you devised an underhand strategy to reduce your workload, and you are trying to present that crafty strategy as the gold standard of operations, for HR recruiters. Abeg, park well!

Lbrasi:
My email address falls under the category of the type you ld discard but I have gotten invites from multinationals and I have worked with one before using the same email.I got an invite from Amazon using the same email address,I didn't land the job though but it wasn't because of the email.
I ld rather be focused on competency of the candidate than his or her email address.

God bless you!

souljaboi51:


I am a HR officer for one of the Top 100 companies to work for in Nigeria (jobberman ranking) and i can say for a fact that alot of your excuses are just crap (excuse my language).

This email of a thing is not important and i have come across alot of funny emails and they eventually get the job. Its not a requirement.

As for acknowledgement, what else are you looking for? You want the person write an epistle to confirm attendance? Oh please. One time someone had an issue with distance and would be able to make it. Guess what, i scheduled a skype interview and another time, i told the person to visit one of our branches and i scheduled a Tele-presence (video call) interview.

Furthermore, i have on different occasions had candidates who are running late. Guess what, i call them to ask if they will be able to make it or they want to reschedule.

This is how HR is practiced and not the unnecessary bias you preach

It is people like you that give HR practioners a bad name. You need to check yourself

If you don't take beer can I buy you juice?
Thank you for correcting the supposed demi-boss

OfficialAPCNig:
Use A Professional Email Address

I don't about other Recruiters, but for me, a stupid email address will never earn an invite from me.

What the heck are, Chizzybaby@gmail.com, Zainab4luv@yahoo.com? Seriously, these ain't email anyone seriously looking for job should be associating with.

Personally, I prefer emails with the applicants' full name or first name.

Try as much as possible not to use numbers in your email address, only when necessary.

Something like this is manageable, LekanAzeez86@gmail.com but Lekan86@gmail.com is unacceptable to me.

Officiallekan@gmail.com, IamLekan@gmail.com, LekanOfficial@gmail.com are all acceptable to me.

Seriously you Nigerian recruites are full of poo. It is your type that values paper qualification over compentence. How does one's email affect his/her competence and ability to deliver on the job. Why do we always allow sentiments to becloud our judgement?

solelymade:


Sir, the word there is Disabled, that can as well be included in my list. You're not permitted to discriminate on physiological framework of a person especially if it can be proven that the lack of mobility in a part of the body doesn't hinder the person from performing at the role. That applies in some country not all.
Show me a specific example limited to the scope of what we are discussing here, the email username. I maintain go anywhere in the world, you will never win a case against a bias for denial of privilege except it can be related to race, sex, colour, gender, religion and/or disability.

Instead of arguing with you, i would suggest you google anf read up on conscious and unconscious bias in recruitment, selection, interviews etc. You will find alot of examples on it/ cases where the legal system was involved. As i said earlier, i did my research dissertation on it and it is published in academia. You can learn one or two things and no i will not give you a specific link. Please do your research and educate yourself.

Heavance:

If you don't take beer can I buy you juice?
Thank you for correcting the supposed demi-boss

Thank you. Pls mix the juice with vodka

LaudableXX:

No sir. The e-mail address adds nothing to your qualifications, work experience or ability to do the job! When a person starts elevating inconsequential mundane things above the real issues that matter, it detracts from the value or substance of the project.

your email address says something about your person. Take for instance bigbutt@gmail.com... what comes to your mind first. Take away the sentiments. If you have worked in a multinational company as claimed, you should know what process is. Screening out un professionalism is not in anyway mudane. Personality is something recruiters look out for aside your qualifications and experience. If you are to be an Hr personnel, you will be trained more about this. So let someone with experience in this field advise people. You can advice people in your field. You don't need to tell people how to do their job. And the email address is not just a Nigerian things!

LaudableXX:

And so? Why not hire additional hands to tackle the job? Or is it a crime? Or can't you use apps to screen the CVs? And why not spread the exercise of reviewing those applications over a couple of weeks, so that you can devote enough time to the task? Due to your laziness, you devised an underhand strategy to reduce your workload, and you are trying to present that crafty strategy as the gold standard of operations, for HR recruiters. Abeg, park well!

No mind am. Using sentiments to do his job.

souljaboi51:
I am a HR officer for one of the Top 100 companies to work for in Nigeria (jobberman ranking) and i can say for a fact that alot of your excuses are just crap (excuse my language).

This email of a thing is not important and i have come across alot of funny emails and they eventually get the job. Its not a requirement.

As for acknowledgement, what else are you looking for? You want the person write an epistle to confirm attendance? Oh please. One time someone had an issue with distance and would be able to make it. Guess what, i scheduled a skype interview and another time, i told the person to visit one of our branches and i scheduled a Tele-presence (video call) interview.

Furthermore, i have on different occasions had candidates who are running late. Guess what, i call them to ask if they will be able to make it or they want to reschedule.

This is how HR is practiced and not the unnecessary bias you preach

It is people like you that give HR practioners a bad name. You need to check yourself

I wish I could dash you 10,000 likes for this post. May you live long. I once applied for a UN agency job, with my personal e-mail address which does not contain my name at all, o! Guess what? I was called up for an interview in their Abuja office, while I was still living in Lagos. I explained the difficulties of getting to Abuja via a short e-mail to them, and they offered to reschedule the interview.

EdoBoy90:
In an economy where we don't have a lot of industries or companies, recruiters find flimsy excuse to disqualify to qualifiable candidates.

Can I ask the recruiter a question? Remember in the good old days, people were employed without a mail address. CV and Cover letter should be the first prerequisite for employment it is because there are no jobs in Nigeria some recruiters treat graduates badly or unfairly.

I don't blame some of you recruiters, I blame the economy and bad leaders we have in Nigeria.

Nigeria we be great again when graduates will be begged to work. Nothing last forever. Nothing is permanent.

You don talk am finish!