Hairyrapunzel:


Show us the Bible verse.

Luke 1:3 Here THEOPHILUS is referred to most excellent or as we say today your Excellency when you are talking to a Governor or President.

In Acts 1:1 He is simply called O THEOPHILUS.
So he MUST have resigned from that post when the Acts was written

dometome:

blood transfusion is NOt the only means to treat sever Anaemia. Period!

Show me where watchtower said it's bloodless treatment is what is used to treat very severe anemia?
Show me where watchtower said it's bloodless treatment is what is used to treat acute severe hemorrhage with decompensation
Abi your watchtower medical textbook has not told you guys this or them don lie for this one?

Hairyrapunzel:


Show me where watchtower said it's bloodless treatment is what is used to treat very severe anemia?
Show me where watchtower said it's bloodless treatment is what is used to treat acute severe hemorrhage with decompensation
Abi your watchtower medical textbook has not told you guys this or them don lie for this one?

Blood Transfusion is not the only treatment for very severe Anaemia, period!

dometome:
Luke 1:3 Here THEOPHILUS is referred to most excellent or as we say today your Excellency when you are talking to a Governor or President.

In Acts 1:1 He is simply called O THEOPHILUS.
So he MUST have resigned from that post when the Acts was written

Speculation everywhere.
Buhaha. You are not even sure of your explanation.
Why do you think your Excellency is the same as most excellent?
I no fit laff. Guessing game.

Bible did not say theophillus had a position in the first place.
Bible was always clear on people who were in positions of authority eg pharaoh, Caesar, pontius pilate, herod, Agrippa, festus etc.
Bible did not say theophillus was governor or president. You just assumed because they address governors and presidents your Excellency in this 21st century.

In a nutshell, all you have just said is just your assumption based on a present day social concept.

dometome:
Blood Transfusion is not the only treatment for very severe Anaemia, period!

Quote your source abi shame no let you quote any source?

dometome:
You guys are soooooo ignorant and proud of it. He is talking about a figurative sword, did Jesus not tell Peter that those who live by the sword die by it? What and what did he say in his famous sermon on the mount? Na real wa!

.so your leaders now decide the words/sentences that are figurative or literal in the Bible. Lol
When you want to defend your shunning doctrine or the fact that Jesus is coming to slaughter all non jws in Armageddon you say Jesus words of turning brother against brother or this Jesus coming with sword is literal.

Hypocrisy. I no fit laff. Figurative ke

Hairyrapunzel:


Speculation everywhere.
Buhaha. You are not even sure of your explanation.
Why do you think your Excellency is the same as most excellent?
I no fit laff. Guessing game.

Bible did not say theophillus had a position in the first place.
Bible was always clear on people who were in positions of authority eg pharaoh, Caesar, pontius pilate, herod, Agrippa, festus etc.
Bible did not say theophillus was governor or president. You just assumed because they address governors and presidents your Excellency in this 21st century.

In a nutshell, all you have just said is just your assumption based on a present day social concept.

Ypu claim to be wise but you are empty headed. Ancient Rome had rules and regulations many of which we stil use today. Many of these things We do today were gotten from the Roman empire. Yes you cannot deny it.

Hairyrapunzel:

.so your leaders now decide the words/sentences that are figurative or literal in the Bible. Lol
When you want to defend your shunning doctrine or the fact that Jesus is coming to slaughter all non jws in Armageddon you say Jesus words of turning brother against brother or this Jesus coming with sword is literal.

Hypocrisy. I no fit laff. Figurative ke

Empty headed people claiming wise, Jesus spoke about the sower who went out to plant, his disciples asked why he used illustration he said to them that he uses illustration because without it, they will not understand, especially those with out Jewish background. Jesus even said that he will throw down the temple and rebuild it in three days, I don't know when Christ demolished the jewish temple and rebuilt it in three days, When he went to Jairus' house to raise up his dead daughter, what did he say to people there? He told them to stop crying and that the girl is only sleeping, but we all know that she had died. There many many examples Jesus use illustration and figures of speech to explain the gosple, He also talked about a Faith the size of a mustard seed, that can move a mountain, was he talking about a literal mountain? wasn't he talking about obstacles that act as mountains to our advancement, both spiritually and otherwise? Why then didn't he uproot the mount of olives if he was talking about a literal mountain? Your ignorance is HUGE!!

dometome:
Empty headed people claiming wise, Jesus spoke about the sower who went out to plant, his disciples asked why he used illustration he said to them that he uses illustration because without it, they will not understand, especially those with out Jewish background. Jesus even said that he will throw down the temple and rebuild it in three days, I don't know when Christ demolished the jewish temple and rebuilt it in three days, When he went to Jairus' house to raise up his dead daughter, what did he say to people there? He told them to stop crying and that the girl is only sleeping, but we all know that she had died. There many many examples Jesus use illustration and figures of speech to explain the gosple, He also talked about a Faith the size of a mustard seed, that can move a mountain, was he talking about a literal mountain? wasn't he talking about obsta cles that act as mountains to our advancement, both spiritually and otherwise? Why then didn't he uproot the mount of olives if he was talking about a literal mountain? Your ignorance is HUGE!!

Now is empty people. I no fit laugh. When it comes to your shunning policy you say Jesus words are literal while when it comes to supporting your not joining politics and military you say those same words Jesus said are figurative expressions.
Haba? No dey lie. Were you in Jesus mind? Lol. You never see anything yet. Zombie/robot

Hairyrapunzel:


Now is empty people. I no fit laugh. When it comes to your shunning policy you say Jesus words are literal while when it comes to supporting your not joining politics and military you say those same words Jesus said are figurative expressions.
Haba? No dey lie. Were you in Jesus mind? Lol. You never see anything yet. Zombie/robot

Oh lala! My Jesus is a pacifist, he is a peace maker, Go ahead with your warmongering jesus.
Boohooo! When you have nothing else to say you resort to insults and abusive speeches. HahahHahAHAHAHA!

Hairyrapunzel:


Speculation everywhere.
Buhaha. You are not even sure of your explanation.
Why do you think your Excellency is the same as most excellent?
I no fit laff. Guessing game.

Bible did not say theophillus had a position in the first place.
Bible was always clear on people who were in positions of authority eg pharaoh, Caesar, pontius pilate, herod, Agrippa, festus etc.
Bible did not say theophillus was governor or president. You just assumed because they address governors and presidents your Excellency in this 21st century.

In a nutshell, all you have just said is just your assumption based on a present day social concept.

That guy just fell my hands again. He is really a dyed-in-the-wool Speculator General. Look how he just said "he must have been an officer after initially claiming that the book of Luke records it categorically that Theophilus resigned from the army. He has shifted goal post to and fro everywhere. It is just left for him to lift the goalpost on his head.
Even his fellow JWs are ashamed of him hence they've deserted the thread.

dometome:
Oh lala! My Jesus is a pacifist, he is a peace maker, Go ahead with your warmongering jesus.
Boohooo! When you have nothing else to say you resort to insults and abusive speeches. HahahHahAHAHAHA!

Matthew 10:34-39

34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn

“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’[c]

37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.

Let me show you the verse you guys use to literally defend your shunning doctrine. It's the same verse you want to brush of as being figurative. Lol

Jw will not kill me with laughter.
When it's to support your not joining military you say this verses are figurative but when its to support your evil shunning doctrine you say it's literal.

According to your doctrines Jesus is not a pacifist o. Abi you want to see evidence?

dometome:
Oh lala! My Jesus is a pacifist, he is a peace maker, Go ahead with your warmongering jesus.
Boohooo! When you have nothing else to say you resort to insults and abusive speeches. HahahHahAHAHAHA!

OYA COME AND SEE WHAT YOUR LEADERS SAY ABOUT PACIFISM

THIS ONE IS FROM YOUR OWN MAGAZINE O

"The situation may be such that the only thing a person can do is to use whatever is at hand to protect himself or others. As a result, the attacker may receive a fatal blow. From the Scriptural standpoint, the one acting in self-defense would not thereby incur bloodguilt." Awake 1975 Sep 8 p.28 Should You Defend Yourself?

True Christians love peace. They stay completely neutral in the world's military, political, and ethnic conflicts. But, strictly speaking, they are not pacifists. Why? Because they welcome God's war that will finally enforce his will on earth-a war that will settle the great issue of universal sovereignty and rid the earth of all enemies of peace once and for all." [/b]Awake! 1997 May 8 p.23

They are not against war between the nations, and they do not interfere with the war efforts of the nations nor with anyone who can conscientiously join in such efforts. [b]They fight only when God commands them to do so, because then it is theocratic warfare.
Were Jehovah’s witnesses today to claim to be pacifists, it would mean for them to denounce all the pre-Christian witnesses of Jehovah who took up arms to uphold Jehovah’s universal sovereignty and his theocratic nation of Israel. But this denunciation we cannot make. Jesus Christ never did so, and he is Jehovah’s greatest witness, who has earned the title “The faithful and true witness”. (Rev. 3:14) Jehovah himself is no pacifist. Neither are his witnesses such, although they are conscientious objectors." [/b]Watchtower 1951 Feb 1 p.70 [b]Why Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Not Pacifists

Hairyrapunzel:


Matthew 10:34-39

34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn

“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’[c]

37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.

Let me show you the verse you guys use to literally defend your shunning doctrine. It's the same verse you want to brush of as being figurative. Lol

Jw will not kill me with laughter.
When it's to support your not joining military you say this verses are figurative but when its to support your evil shunning doctrine you say it's literal.

According to your doctrines Jesus is not a pacifist o. Abi you want to see evidence?

Man against father, Daughter against mother simply means when you become a real Christian even your family members will hate you, that is why he even added that anybody who loses his family in his name or because of becoming Christ's follower will gain it a hundred fold. This is very simple to understand, it doesn't mean you should go to war and commit crimes against humanity.
Jesus Christ I know said in John 13:35 all will know you are my followers if you have love among yourselves. It is very easy to understand.

dometome:
Man against father, Daughter against mother simply means when you become a real Christian even your family members will hate you, that is why he even added that anybody who loses his family in his name or because of becoming Christ's follower will gain it a hundred fold. This is very simple to understand, it doesn't mean you should go to war and commit crimes against humanity.
Jesus Christ I know said in John 13:35 all will know you are my followers if you have love among yourselves. It is very easy to understand.

You have no right to say that passage is figurative when you talk about politics, military while it is literal when you talk about shunning Shikena.
Come here to speculate anyhow. No evidence even from the bible you claim to follow

dometome:
Man against father, Daughter against mother simply means when you become a real Christian even your family members will hate you, that is why he even added that anybody who loses his family in his name or because of becoming Christ's follower will gain it a hundred fold. This is very simple to understand, it doesn't mean you should go to war and commit crimes against humanity.
Jesus Christ I know said in John 13:35 all will know you are my followers if you have love among yourselves. It is very easy to understand.

True Christians love peace. They stay completely neutral in the world's military, political, and ethnic conflicts. But, strictly speaking, they are not pacifists. Why? Because they welcome God's war that will finally enforce his will on earth-a war that will settle the great issue of universal sovereignty and rid the earth of all enemies of peace once and for all." [/b]Awake! 1997 May 8 p.23

dometome:
Oh lala! My Jesus is a pacifist, he is a peace maker, Go ahead with your warmongering jesus.
Boohooo! When you have nothing else to say you resort to insults and abusive speeches. HahahHahAHAHAHA!

Shey bi you were lying about your Jesus being a pacifist? Come and see what your leaders teach you.
Shey I told you that I will provide evidence that you people don't believe Jesus or jehovah are pacifists in fact your core teaching is that they are not.

dometome:
Man against father, Daughter against mother simply means when you become a real Christian even your family members will hate you, that is why he even added that anybody who loses his family in his name or because of becoming Christ's follower will gain it a hundred fold. This is very simple to understand, it doesn't mean you should go to war and commit crimes against humanity.
Jesus Christ I know said in John 13:35 all will know you are my followers if you have love among yourselves. It is very easy to understand.

Hope you are still alive? Hope you are not having an anxiety attack already? This is just the beginning. I will show you that your religion does not believe Jesus and jehovah are pacifists

Why comparing the two place make your choice and be there.

I have been going to church since 1994 I have not seen any body push out of church because of offering or tithe .

Hairyrapunzel:


Hope you are still alive? Hope you are not having an anxiety attack already? This is just the beginning. I will show you that your religion does not believe Jesus and jehovah are pacifists

That they are pacifists doesn't mean that they are stupid, Jehovah's has the authority to do whatever he likes, he will destroy the wicked and save the righteous ones, that is why said to his worshippers to desist from engaging in violence and leave vengeance for him, he will repay each on according to his deed. We shouldn't take laws into our hands. Allow him to do that, whatever means he deems right.

dometome:
That they are pacifists doesn't mean that they are stupid, Jehovah's has the authority to do whatever he likes, he will destroy the wicked and save the righteous ones, that is why said to his worshippers to desist from engaging in violence and leave vengeance for him, he will repay each on according to his deed. We shouldn't take laws into our hands. Allow him to do that, whatever means he deems right.

"They are not against war between the nations, and they do not interfere with the war efforts of the nations nor with anyone who can conscientiously join in such efforts. They fight only when God commands them to do so, because then it is theocratic warfare.
Were Jehovah’s witnesses today to claim to be pacifists, it would mean for them to denounce all the pre-Christian witnesses of Jehovah who took up arms to uphold Jehovah’s universal sovereignty and his theocratic nation of Israel. But this denunciation we cannot make. Jesus Christ never did so, and he is Jehovah’s greatest witness, who has earned the title “The faithful and true witness”. (Rev. 3:14) Jehovah himself is no pacifist. Neither are his witnesses such, although they are conscientious objectors." Watchtower 1951 Feb 1 p.70 Why Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Not Pacifists

Hairyrapunzel:


OYA COME AND SEE WHAT YOUR LEADERS SAY ABOUT PACIFISM

THIS ONE IS FROM YOUR OWN MAGAZINE O

"The situation may be such that the only thing a person can do is to use whatever is at hand to protect himself or others. As a result, the attacker may receive a fatal blow. From the Scriptural standpoint, the one acting in self-defense would not thereby incur bloodguilt." Awake 1975 Sep 8 p.28 Should You Defend Yourself?

True Christians love peace. They stay completely neutral in the world's military, political, and ethnic conflicts. But, strictly speaking, they are not pacifists. Why? Because they welcome God's war that will finally enforce his will on earth-a war that will settle the great issue of universal sovereignty and rid the earth of all enemies of peace once and for all." [/b]Awake! 1997 May 8 p.23

They are not against war between the nations, and they do not interfere with the war efforts of the nations nor with anyone who can conscientiously join in such efforts. [b]They fight only when God commands them to do so, because then it is theocratic warfare.
Were Jehovah’s witnesses today to claim to be pacifists, it would mean for them to denounce all the pre-Christian witnesses of Jehovah who took up arms to uphold Jehovah’s universal sovereignty and his theocratic nation of Israel. But this denunciation we cannot make. Jesus Christ never did so, and he is Jehovah’s greatest witness, who has earned the title “The faithful and true witness”. (Rev. 3:14) Jehovah himself is no pacifist. Neither are his witnesses such, although they are conscientious objectors." [/b]Watchtower 1951 Feb 1 p.70 [b]Why Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Not Pacifists

Meeeehhhhhhn.......! See finishing! Ol boy! I don die o! The guy don tear 440.
Make him come defend him pacifism now.
This reference shows clearly that the guy does not even have a full grasp of the doctrine he is sheepishly following and insulting others for.
I too showed him where his fellow JWs shot 13 persons dead in Russia for supposedly fighting for God's kingdom but Mr. My-Jesus-is-a-pacifist tried to twist the story. I know I once read this Awake edition on self defence in the late 90s but could just remember exactly which is week and that is why I mentioned it on this thread before now that JWs doctrine supports self defence.

Mr. Pacifist must be licking his wound now and wondering why Watchtower disgraced him like this with this publication. The guy has been confirmed as a follow-follow. He doesn't even know what is happening in the coven he belongs to but just ranting and insulting people on social media. Chai!!!!!
You have mauled, mowed down, dismantled and demolished the guy. You are a bulldozer. Twale!

dometome:
That they are pacifists doesn't mean that they are stupid, Jehovah's has the authority to do whatever he likes, he will destroy the wicked and save the righteous ones, that is why said to his worshippers to desist from engaging in violence and leave vengeance for him, he will repay each on according to his deed. We shouldn't take laws into our hands. Allow him to do that, whatever means he deems right.

You are still arguing that Jesus is a pacifist. Lol your leaders think otherwise. I no fit laff.

Deadlytruth:



Meeeehhhhhhn.......! See finishing! Ol boy! I don die o! The guy don tear 440.
Make him come defend him pacifism now.
This reference shows clearly that the guy does not even have a full grasp of the doctrine he is sheepishly following and insulting others for.
I too showed him where his fellow JWs shot 13 persons dead in Russia for supposedly fighting for God's kingdom but Mr. My-Jesus-is-a-pacifist tried to twist the story. I know I once read this Awake edition on self defence in the late 90s but could just remember exactly which is week and that is why I mentioned it on this thread before now that JWs doctrine supports self defence.

Mr. Pacifist must be licking his wound now and wondering why Watchtower disgraced him like this with this publication. The guy has been confirmed as a follow-follow. He doesn't even know what is happening in the coven he belongs to but just ranting and insulting people on social media. Chai!!!!!
You have mauled, mowed down, dismantled and demolished the guy. You are a bulldozer. Twale!

They are trained liars as they call the act of lying theocratic warfare. He doesn't even have biblical support for his doctrine.

Hairyrapunzel:


You are still arguing that Jesus is a pacifist. Lol your leaders think otherwise. I no fit laff.

You can imagine their own leaders asking their members to take up arms in defending the theocratic kingdom of Israel but at the same time claiming that enlisting in the army is evil.
Which is worse? The secular army does not kill for God but for their countries. But according to JWs own publication the JW army kills for God.
See hypocrisy. Are JWs different from Muslim therefore?
I know the guy may come to the defence again by saying that the publication refers to figurative guns and bombs. Hehehehehe.....

Hairyrapunzel:



They are trained liars as they call the act of lying theocratic warfare. He doesn't even have biblical support for his doctrine.

Indeed they are trained manipulators and crafty seducers. Only evil men would rely on human literature and research to validate the Bible.
Only God can deliver their souls.

Deadlytruth:


Indeed they are trained manipulators and crafty seducers. Only evil men would rely on human literature and research to validate the Bible.
Only God can deliver their souls.

How market na?

TATIME:
How market na?

I am supposed to be the one asking you how market as your co- manipulator has been disgraced out with his tail tucked in between his legs. You have been shown an Awake magazine article in which your own very leaders advocate the taking up of physical arms in defence of your "Jehovah's" kingdom on earth and you are so shocked that all you can do is to resort to reverse psychology by asking me how market. How market ko, how shop ni!
No wonder those two JWs shot 13 persons dead in pursuit of establishing your Jehovah's kingdom on earth according to them.
So with all the knowledge with which you "defeated" atheists as you earlier boasted, you could not even help your brother Mr. Pacifist or Mr. Pacific Ocean while he was being massacred mercilessly by Hairapunzel?
Can't you now see that the boasting you did earlier was actually an empty one? The empty container makes the loudest noise. A truly knowledgeable person who defeated atheists would not boast the way you did. It means you actually didn't defeat those atheists but a further evidence that you will in future boast elsewhere about how you defeated everyone in this very thread whereas all you could do was to ironically ask your victors "how market?"
Clever liars!

Deadlytruth:

I am supposed to be the one asking you how market as your co- manipulator has been disgraced out with his tail tucked in between his legs. You have been shown an Awake magazine article in which your own very leaders advocate the taking up of physical arms in defence of your "Jehovah's" kingdom on earth and you are so shocked that all you can do is to resort to reverse psychology by asking me how market. How market ko, how shop ni!
So with all the knowledge with which you "defeated" atheists as you earlier boasted, you could not even help your brother Mr. Pacifist or Mr. Pacific Ocean while he was being massacred mercilessly by Hairapunzel?
Can't you now see that the boasting you did earlier was actually an empty one? The empty container makes the loudest noise. A truly knowledgeable person who defeated atheists would not boast the way you did. It means you actually didn't defeat those atheists but a further evidence that you will in future boast elsewhere about how you defeated everyone in this very thread whereas all you could do was to ironically ask your victors "how market?"
Clever liars!

Eku oro aje o.

TATIME:
Eku oro aje o.

It is now time to speak vernacular, right? Is this your newest way of covering up your agony and shame of the crushing defeat you've just suffered in Hairapunzel's hands?

@Deadlytruth: If truthfully you want to know something you only need to ask straightforward, leading and thought provoking questions that will catch your audience like a cobweb. As for my claim regarding the atheists please go and check the tread entitled "How Jesus Christ was Created" by an atheist named Otemsapien. And as for Hairyrapunzel check the thread entitled "Jehovah's Witnesses, hundreds of child sex abuse in the religion" by mikeolu1 there you'll learn how true Christians can defend the wise counsels from our master with or without the Bible because as a REAL Christian you should be able to convince anybody about how beneficial Christianity is whether such a person agrees with the Bible or not!

TATIME:
@Deadlytruth: If truthfully you want to know something you only need to ask straightforward, leading and thought provoking questions that will catch your audience like a cobweb. As for my claim regarding the atheists please go and check the tread entitled "How Jesus Christ was Created" by an atheist named Otemsapien. And as for Hairyrapunzel check the thread entitled "Jehovah's Witnesses, hundreds of child sex abuse in the religion" by mikeolu1 there you'll learn how true Christians can defend the wise counsels from our master with or without the Bible because as a REAL Christian you should be able to convince anybody about how beneficial Christianity is whether such a person agrees with the Bible or not!

So Christianity is not reporting a child rapist to the police but reporting a thief who breaks into a kingdom hall right?

True Christians now use secular worldly history to make their rules and regulation? True Christians no longer need only the Bible? Wow!

This is becoming more and more interesting. If Catholics don't use only the Bible you will call them false religion. Your religion is not using the Bible and you call yours true religion lol. Hypocrisy at it's peak.