Dokitadotun:
Guys, chill na we talking spiritual things here and not natural.

STOP lying to yourself brother !

nbinet:


Whoever post this, it's important you know that there are subject you don't bring to open forum as this, where we have people of different religions and view as members.

I think question on this subject should be limited to your own religion and view circle.

Remember, as Christians, the purpose for doing anything should be to edify other, especially the Body and not to create room for questions and argument.

God bless

yeah , you shouldn’t bring it to an open forum so people don’t laugh at your stupidity ! Keep stupidity hidden within your circle so you don’t embarrass yourself ! Asharababa boro shaku shaku shoki skiborobo keeponrockin blah blah blah lol!

realmindz:
Nothing as sweet as self deceit....

lol ya wicked.
Nothing actually bleeps you up than your brain

I feel no different after, indeed an asking where my money ya!

Acts 2:1. When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord[1] in one place.
2. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting.
3. Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them.
4. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with OTHER TONGUES, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5. And there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men, from EVERY NATION UNDER HEAVEN.
6. And when this sound occurred, the multitude came together, and were confused, because everyone heard them speak in his own LANGUAGE .
7. Then they were all amazed and marveled, saying to one another, "Look, are not all these who speak Galileans?
8. AND HOW IS IT it THAT WE HEAR , EACH IN OUR OWN LANGUAGE in which we were born?
9. Parthians and Medes and Elamites, those dwelling in Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia,
10. Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya adjoining Cyrene, visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes,
11. Cretans and Arabs—we hear them speaking in our own tongues the wonderful works of God."

gentle007:
Acts 2:1. When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord[1] in one place.
2. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting.
3. Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them.
4. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with OTHER TONGUES, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5. And there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men, from EVERY NATION UNDER HEAVEN.
6. And when this sound occurred, the multitude came together, and were confused, because everyone heard them speak in his own LANGUAGE .
7. Then they were all amazed and marveled, saying to one another, "Look, are not all these who speak Galileans?
8. AND HOW IS IT it THAT WE HEAR , EACH IN OUR OWN LANGUAGE in which we were born?
9. Parthians and Medes and Elamites, those dwelling in Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia,
10. Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya adjoining Cyrene, visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes,
11. Cretans and Arabs—we hear them speaking in our own tongues the wonderful works of God."

Now, compare the above with what is obtainable today and tell me if what is obtainable in churches today is what we have above.

Honestly speaking in tongue is fake, and if its real from ur own side, its jinn/evil spirit talking... i could remember a time i followed a lady i had crush on when i was in school. she was in 500l and i was in predegree., that time i wanted to give her one shot under , u know their pride about levels... shr insisted i must follow her to church which i did, on getting there, i was introduced to the pastor and asked me to wait after church, i noticed a small room from d fellowship they were teaching how to speak rubbish. suddenly the pastor saying that his father may be their leaders in future, shaking my heads, speaking in tongues and asked t9 start saying my own rubbish, just for him to release me on time for my mission on the girl, i said rubbish and they believed me till tomorrow self . ...started 3mbracing me to do more... since then i have alwaz been looking at them like fools, ignorant

Toks2008:
Some people just speak in tongues
but do not have the interpretation

When you dont have interpretation, to what benefit, to what end, for what purpose is it reasonable to speak in tongue(s)?

Toks2008:
but I do and I know exactly what say in tongues...

How do you know exactly what you say in tongues?
Is it because what you say in tongues, you in an instant & immediately interprete it?

Toks2008:
remember that the devil does not understand the language

Is this a fact and biblical truth?
Please provide biblical evidence to support and prove the truth of this.

Toks2008:
neither can he read our minds

Neither can the devil understand or know what you say, think or pray in your mind

Can you hear your thoughts inside your head?
Neither can the devil hear your thoughts in your head or what you say in your mind
You see Toks2008, we give the devil too much credit.

Toks2008:
Speaking in tongues simply means in other languages

If by your own admission, speaking in tongues simply means in other languages,
then how many of these languages have you identified that you speak in?

Toks2008:
but when we speak in tongues we speak beyond just languages but mysteries that GOD understands.

For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God.
Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit.
1 Corinthians 14:2 NIV

For if you have the ability to speak in tongues,
you will be talking only to God, since people won't be able to understand you.
You will be speaking by the power of the Spirit, but it will all be mysterious
- 1 Corinthians 14:2 NLT

For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God:
for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries
- 1 Corinthians 14:2 KJV

You've misinterpreted that verse
If anyone speaks to another, in a language only he knows and speaks
then such person is speaking mysteries only God understand
as the other doesnt and wouldnt understand what the one speaks

Toks2008:
The holy spirit leads you so you can speak in different tongues at different times

Out of curiosity, do you believe that Holy Spirit is also in the business of leading one to write prayers in tongues?

Toks2008:
It energizes your spirit man...
we have the spirit and soul living in a body and because speaking in tongues is spiritual, it awakens your spirit.

Create in me a pure heart, oh, God,
and renew your right Spirit within me.
- Psalm 51:10

Toks2008, you have this whole matter warped up.
It is the Holy Spirit Toks2008, that energises the spirit man.
It is the Holy Spirit that awakes your spirit
It is the Holy Spirit that reinvigorates your spirit

The soul is impoverished, if the spirit man is cut off from the Holy Spirit/God
The soul is at the mercy of the flesh, if the spirit isnt receiving broadcast signals from the Holy Spirit/God.
When you're tuned in to the Holy Spirit/God, the Spirit relays the will of God, thats feds into the spirit man
which then passes this off to the soul, after which the soul distributes to the body (i.e. relevant and/or appropriate five senses)
Our five senses are: sight, smell, hearing, taste and touch
and the organs for these five senses are the: eyes, nose, ears, tongue and skin

3 John 1:2, says:
"Beloved, I pray you to prosper concerning all things and to be in good health, just as your soul prospers."

The soul prospers, when the spirit man is awaken, plugged in and charged(ing) up by the Holy Spirit/God

Speaking in tongue, does not, you Toks2008 a believer, awaken your spirit.
It isnt, as you're already a believer, for you or for your benefit,
but is, for the benefit of the unbeliever(s).

MuttleyLaff:
When you dont have interpretation, to what benefit, to what end, for what purpose is it reasonable to speak in tongue(s)?

How do you know exactly what you say in tongues?
Is it because what you say in tongues, you in an instant & immediately interprete it?

Is this a fact and biblical truth?
Please provide biblical evidence to support and prove the truth of this.

Neither can the devil understand or know what you say, think or pray in your mind

Can you hear your thoughts inside your head?
Neither can the devil hear your thoughts in your head or what you say in your mind
You see Toks2008, we give the devil too much credit.

If by your own admission, speaking in tongues simply means in other languages,
then how many of these languages have you identified that you speak in?

For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God.
Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit.
1 Corinthians 14:2 NIV

For if you have the ability to speak in tongues,
you will be talking only to God, since people won't be able to understand you.
You will be speaking by the power of the Spirit, but it will all be mysterious
- 1 Corinthians 14:2 NLT

For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God:
for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries
- 1 Corinthians 14:2 KJV

You've misinterpreted that verse
If anyone speaks to another, in a language only he knows and speaks
then such person is speaking mysteries only God understand
as the other doesnt and wouldnt understand what the one speaks

Out of curiosity, do you believe that Holy Spirit is also in the business of leading one to write prayers in tongues?

Create in me a pure heart, oh, God,
and renew your right Spirit within me.
- Psalm 51:10

Toks2008, you have this whole matter warped up.
It is the Holy Spirit Toks2008, that energises the spirit man.
It is the Holy Spirit that awakes your spirit
It is the Holy Spirit that reinvigorates your spirit

The soul is impoverished, if the spirit man is cut off from the Holy Spirit/God
The soul is at the mercy of the flesh, if the spirit isnt receiving broadcast signals from the Holy Spirit/God.
When you're tuned in to the Holy Spirit/God, the Spirit relays the will of God, thats feds into the spirit man
which then passes this off to the soul, after which the soul distributes to the body (i.e. relevant and/or appropriate five senses)
Our five senses are: sight, smell, hearing, taste and touch
and the organs for these five senses are the: eyes, nose, ears, tongue and skin

3 John 1:2, says:
"Beloved, I pray you to prosper concerning all things and to be in good health, just as your soul prospers."

The soul prospers, when the spirit man is awaken, plugged in and charged(ing) up by the Holy Spirit/God

Speaking in tongue, does not, you Toks2008 a believer, awaken your spirit.
It isnt, as you're already a believer, for you or for your benefit,
but is, for the benefit of the unbeliever(s).

All these rhetoric for what really? ust say to write dey hungry you cos all your ecclesiastical rant does not nullify my stands but you just presented it in a deeper way. Writing that it is the holy spirit and not speaking in tongues that energizes...biko no vex..i actually forgot it is the holy spirit who is responsible for tongues speaking...oversabi.

Good night Pastor I.T.K

all of them na SAKAMAJE

Toks2008:
All these rhetoric for what really?
ust say to write dey hungry you cos all your ecclesiastical rant does not nullify my stands but you just presented it in a deeper way.
Writing that it is the holy spirit and not speaking in tongues that energizes...biko no vex..
i actually forgot it is the holy spirit who is responsible for tongues speaking...oversabi.

Good night Pastor I.T.K

Languages others don't know may mean something to unbelievers, but not to the Lord's followers.
Prophecy, on the other hand, is for followers, not for unbelievers
- 1 Corinthians 14:22

So you see that speaking in tongues is a sign, not for believers, but for unbelievers.
Prophecy, however, is for the benefit of believers, not unbelievers.
- 1 Corinthians 14:22

"I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves", someone said

"Shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them." is what Luke 9:5 advises

He doesnt want to face the truth, that's why the truth is a bitter pill for him to swallow

Good night dearest brother, I will say a simple prayer in English for you tonight

daveP:



Really??


Yeah the Bible is actually clear about Baptism of the Holy Spirit. But not all spoke in tongues.


Twas first done to make the whole unbelievers see that truly God was fulfilling prophecies thru the 120 Speaking.


It's why I'm always emphasizing on this school of thought that most times, the Bible showed it was a known tongue, except to the speaker. The speaker doesn't have any idea that it's a language that exist on earth that he's speaking in.


Next, the Bible showed about places that the so called evidence wasn't seen, yet Luke recorded it as baptism of the Holy Spirit!!!


Paul never spoke in tongues the first time.

Some needed laying on of hands.

Some need not(Cornelius family)

Besides, The Cornelius Family were technically not yet saved when they got baptized.... Hmm.


Then Peter couldave been vilified for going there but the 6 witnesses he took along proved what they saw. (proof that Peter wasn't the head of the church as some sect take him to be. He was frightened most times. something a head wouldn't do)


So be aware of these facts.


It's 'a' sign of the Baptism, not 'the' sign.


Happy Sunday!!!


Modified


Besides, I must say this....


You can't be filled with the Holy Ghost and his power and still exhibit the old man and his deeds. Never. You can have flaws (flaws aren't sin) So what are most of those claiming to kabashing actually doing?


The Bible has the answer.


Holy Ghost Baptism is a fact and reality. So I'm always with vehemence against teachers saying be filled with faith. what crap!!!!

Faith is unrealistic in nature.

Baptism is always and Everly realistic!! I.e it's real and can be seen.


Millions are blabbing nowadays actually.


A pastor walks into church, some aren't saved talk less baptized and he suddenly encourages them "by faith" to kabashing to scare the devil.


The Kingdom of Heaven has principles that must be followed. Else it will be missed. simple.


So which one are most "Christians" doing?

Actual Speaking in tongues or blabbing?

God bless us all.

[b]

daveP:



Really??


Yeah the Bible is actually clear about Baptism of the Holy Spirit. But not all spoke in tongues.


Twas first done to make the whole unbelievers see that truly God was fulfilling prophecies thru the 120 Speaking.


It's why I'm always emphasizing on this school of thought that most times, the Bible showed it was a known tongue, except to the speaker. The speaker doesn't have any idea that it's a language that exist on earth that he's speaking in.


Next, the Bible showed about places that the so called evidence wasn't seen, yet Luke recorded it as baptism of the Holy Spirit!!!


Paul never spoke in tongues the first time.

Some needed laying on of hands.

Some need not(Cornelius family)

Besides, The Cornelius Family were technically not yet saved when they got baptized.... Hmm.


Then Peter couldave been vilified for going there but the 6 witnesses he took along proved what they saw. (proof that Peter wasn't the head of the church as some sect take him to be. He was frightened most times. something a head wouldn't do)


So be aware of these facts.


It's 'a' sign of the Baptism, not 'the' sign.


Happy Sunday!!!


Modified


Besides, I must say this....


You can't be filled with the Holy Ghost and his power and still exhibit the old man and his deeds. Never. You can have flaws (flaws aren't sin) So what are most of those claiming to kabashing actually doing?


The Bible has the answer.


Holy Ghost Baptism is a fact and reality. So I'm always with vehemence against teachers saying be filled with faith. what crap!!!!

Faith is unrealistic in nature.

Baptism is always and Everly realistic!! I.e it's real and can be seen.


Millions are blabbing nowadays actually.


A pastor walks into church, some aren't saved talk less baptized and he suddenly encourages them "by faith" to kabashing to scare the devil.


The Kingdom of Heaven has principles that must be followed. Else it will be missed. simple.


So which one are most "Christians" doing?

Actual Speaking in tongues or blabbing?

God bless us all.

[/b]

daveP:



Really??


Yeah the Bible is actually clear about Baptism of the Holy Spirit. But not all spoke in tongues.


Twas first done to make the whole unbelievers see that truly God was fulfilling prophecies thru the 120 Speaking.


It's why I'm always emphasizing on this school of thought that most times, the Bible showed it was a known tongue, except to the speaker. The speaker doesn't have any idea that it's a language that exist on earth that he's speaking in.


Next, the Bible showed about places that the so called evidence wasn't seen, yet Luke recorded it as baptism of the Holy Spirit!!!


Paul never spoke in tongues the first time.

Some needed laying on of hands.

Some need not(Cornelius family)

Besides, The Cornelius Family were technically not yet saved when they got baptized.... Hmm.


Then Peter couldave been vilified for going there but the 6 witnesses he took along proved what they saw. (proof that Peter wasn't the head of the church as some sect take him to be. He was frightened most times. something a head wouldn't do)


So be aware of these facts.


It's 'a' sign of the Baptism, not 'the' sign.


Happy Sunday!!!


Modified


Besides, I must say this....


You can't be filled with the Holy Ghost and his power and still exhibit the old man and his deeds. Never. You can have flaws (flaws aren't sin) So what are most of those claiming to kabashing actually doing?


The Bible has the answer.


Holy Ghost Baptism is a fact and reality. So I'm always with vehemence against teachers saying be filled with faith. what crap!!!!

Faith is unrealistic in nature.

Baptism is always and Everly realistic!! I.e it's real and can be seen.


Millions are blabbing nowadays actually.


A pastor walks into church, some aren't saved talk less baptized and he suddenly encourages them "by faith" to kabashing to scare the devil.


The Kingdom of Heaven has principles that must be followed. Else it will be missed. simple.


So which one are most "Christians" doing?

Actual Speaking in tongues or blabbing?

God bless us all.

Point of Correction.
Jesus to Peter- Upon this rock (Peter) I will build my church... That made him the leader of the Church.

Fegor99:
[b][/b]

Point of Correction.
Jesus to Peter- Upon this rock (Peter) I will build my church... That made him the leader of the Church.

Christ is the Rock on which the church was to be built on, not Peter. it's has never been Peter. James had a higher respect among the Christians than Peter. Read your bible well. The Catholics yaff arrived. Abeg.


Go to original version and see for yourselves.


Always claiming Peter to be the rock.

That Rock is Jesus, The rock of ages. He is the foundation of the church and on Him Church is built on. no hassle again pls.


Besides I told an epistle, and all you saw was that to hinge on. just to get some cheap, false points?

Peter was not active like the remaining eleven... So he wasn't the leader you thought he was. He was an old man. compared to the other 11. He answered to the elders.... Pls bring a better fact to disprove mine.


If the church was built on an old mortal man, would it stand the test if time?


Immortality is what the church was built on, Our Rock of Ages!!!

folake4u:




Respect! .


You made complete sense.

You need to see how disgruntled I am when I discover that the problem facing a christian is cos of lack of knowledge of God's word!!!

Like it's why I would emphasize on having a paper bible than the apps on phone. it's a distraction to start with. arrghhhh.


Just like someone saying She didn't know that Judah and Israel were two different kingdoms taken captive different years.

I blame the so called mentors, telling youths that the Old Testament is very irrelevant. like seriously??

"All Scriptures is given..... so the man of God will be complete"


All Scriptures(emphasis)


Okay. We only take the NT as what to focus on. How do we know that the Messiah was promised? Lol.

All Scriptures!!!!


I'll like to see this side of you too. This is normal to me actually!!

daveP:
You need to see how disgruntled I am when I discover that the problem facing a christian is cos of lack of knowledge of God's word!!!

Like it's why I would emphasize on having a paper bible than the apps on phone. it's a distraction to start with. arrghhhh.


Just like someone saying She didn't know that Judah and Israel were two different kingdoms taken captive different years.

I blame the so called mentors, telling youths that the Old Testament is very irrelevant. like seriously??

"All Scriptures is given..... so the man of God will be complete"


All Scriptures(emphasis)


Okay. We only take the NT as what to focus on. How do we know that the Messiah was promised? Lol.

All Scriptures!!!!


I'll like to see this side of you too. This is normal to me actually!!

So many people think the Old Testament is irrelevant but it actually goes a long way in our lives.
Having a paperback Bible cannot be overemphasized actually, it helps.

Lol, I hate arguing religion on social media. Which other side of me have you seen?
Normal you? It's nice actually .

this one of the reasons I left blw

Speaking in tongues is nonsense ,who ever is speaking in tongues is an enemy of Jesus Christ ,we the kingdom of Jesus Christ ,the ancient world condemn it and it's an authority of heaven of God of justice and if you have eyes to see by now you should have known who is talking powerfully about Jesus Christ kingdom that has come back to revenge and judge people of the whole world unknown to those speaking in tongues and claiming to know Jesus Christ. I have spoken and who ever feels threatened is free to challenge spiritually the world of justice. John 6,6.-68 . Tell this to your prophets and pastors and don't forget that in the realm of the spirit there is no distance so those who have eyes to see read us and know who is talking powerfully

Do you willingly get yourself to speak in tongues?
I thought speaking in tongues is Holy-Spirit-inspired as the Bible says.

It is mainly the illiterate, semi-literate, and those who have been brainwashed that make much ado about speaking in tongues. We know that they practise it.

Dokitadotun:
Honestly speaking if you have not been speaking in tongue, you may be missing something serious here. Some people believe it's not a must to speak in tongue after baptism in the Holy ghost but the bible is clear. I feel this inner peace and joy after speaking in tongues for hours. Just try it out. It sweetens soul. It energizes you from within.

you edifies your spirit

Toks2008:


Some people just speak in tongues but do not have the interpretation but I do and I k ow exactly what say in tongues...remember that the devil does not understand the language neither can he read our minds.

Speaking in tongues simply means in other languages but when we speak in tongues we speak beyond just languages but mysteries that GOD understands.

The holy spirit leads you so you can speak in different tongues at different times


It energizes your spirit man...we have the spirit and soul living in a body and because speaking in tongues is spiritual,it awakens your spirit.

Of course. Keep Deceiving yourself.

Real Tongues was expected to cease at a certain time.

1 Corinth 13:8. AMP:Love never fails [never fades out or becomes obsolete or comes to an end]. As for prophecy (the gift of interpreting the divine will and purpose), it will be fulfilled and pass away; as for tongues, they will be destroyed and cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away [it will lose its value and be superseded by truth].

That's how TB Joshua who claims he gives prophecies could not see that his own church was going to collapse. He also wrongly predicted the winner of the the US election.

Fake Prophets, Fake Speaking in Tongues.

But i know u r too blind to see. So continue eh.

The good thing is speaking in tongues is not by force, so I'll respect myself n speak/pray what i can understand. Besides even Jesus didn't pray in tongues.

MuttleyLaff:
1/ You say:"...the best part is that i have an understanding of my tongues"
So you dont have full understanding of your tongues?
2/ How many tongues do you speak?
3/ What is tongue(s)?
4/ Why is it like a spiritual exercise?

You don't have to understand what you speak in tongues. You're not communicating to humans, you're speaking in heavenly language.

olumite2014:
You don't have to understand what you speak in tongues.
You're not communicating to humans, you're speaking in heavenly language.

Is that really so,
that you don't have to understand what you speak in tongue(s)?

Is this a fact and biblical truth that you are speaking in heavenly language?

Please think this through very carefully
and then provide biblical evidence to support and prove the truth of all you typed up here.

lamideee:
A

haaaaaa lamideee... Jst passing by!

Midedaramola:
haaaaaa lamideee... Jst passing by!

pass by wella

emmy02:


I'm a Christian and I must say what you are saying is rubbish.

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It's either you are not a Christian or don't read your bible. By their fruit we shall no them. You don't speak as a Christian should.

Okies27:
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It's either you are not a Christian or don't read your bible. By their fruit we shall no them. You don't speak as a Christian should.

Yeah.. Stay your dumb lane bro. And keep speaking that rubbish u do speak.

lamideee:
pass by wella

lolz... Should i branch ur side ni?

MuttleyLaff:
Is that really so,
that you don't have to understand what you speak in tongue(s)?

Is this a fact and biblical truth that you are speaking in heavenly language?

Please think this through very carefully
and then provide biblical evidence to support and prove the truth of all you typed up here.

For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
1 Corinthians 14:2 KJV
http://bible.com/1/1co.14.2.KJV

Hope that answer your question?

olumite2014:
For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God:
for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
1 Corinthians 14:2 KJV
http://bible.com/1/1co.14.2.KJV

Hope that answer your question?

No it doesnt actually
and that is because, you've misunderstood that verse and its context

Just like Small Doctor sang, you using 1 Corinthians 14:2, for an answer, ended up "kicking a penalty shot, in to throw in"

PS: out of curiosity, olumite2014 how many languages do you speak?
List them for me please
Its not a trick question, I plan to use your answer to explain 1 Corinthians 14:2

Midedaramola:
lolz... Should i branch ur side ni?

don't branch abeg

daveP:
You need to see how disgruntled I am when I discover that the problem facing a christian is cos of lack of knowledge of God's word!!!

Like it's why I would emphasize on having a paper bible than the apps on phone. it's a distraction to start with. arrghhhh.


Just like someone saying She didn't know that Judah and Israel were two different kingdoms taken captive different years.

I blame the so called mentors, telling youths that the Old Testament is very irrelevant. like seriously??

"All Scriptures is given..... so the man of God will be complete"


All Scriptures(emphasis)


Okay. We only take the NT as what to focus on. How do we know that the Messiah was promised? Lol.

All Scriptures!!!!


I'll like to see this side of you too. This is normal to me actually!!

my people perish for lack of knowledge.

lamideee:
don't branch abeg

Ok mmvnt in action